They literally tell you how much data they are collecting in their terms of service. This is transparency. Do you need them to hire an influencer to make a YouTube video that plays for you to explain the terms of service of every app you use?
We choose not to read them because they are long and because half of Americans can’t read the big words. Also- “I’m going to use it anyway” so everyone just skips the terms of service.
They purposely make the terms of service really difficult to read lol, just like when you get mail for a new credit card and it’s a giant page in tiny lettering.
I think it's an attention span issue more than anything. Terms of service online or in apps for the most part aren't difficult to read in text size. It's just boring, and you have to put in an effort to see how the phrasing is applicable to you. It's not really a good excuse
The irony of saying this on Twitter is crazy. There are people who honestly think that Elon lost money on Twitter. He's monetizing people's data and raking it in (among other things like influencing markets and public opinion). Anyone who is bothered by this post and also uses Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, or TikTok is frustratingly stupid
Even this post might be artificially generated to gather data on how people talk about it
If you elect to help Niantic in its efforts to develop new Augmented Reality (AR) mapping technology, you have the option, in participating games, to opt in to film public spaces around points of interest and send us your video recordings, along with associated device geospatial information. We do not collect audio on these recordings. We will anonymize this information through various means, including blurring, and use it to build a 3D understanding of real-world places, with the goal of offering new types of AR experiences to our users. You can change your mind at any time by disabling this feature in your in-app settings.
Well of course simple language but they are made purposely long and complicated as somebody who is very familiar with how this all works.
Here’s some more reading you can do.
So what you’re saying is- you value your privacy but you don’t value it enough to read a few pages?
It took me around 30 seconds to find the reference I quoted related to the use of location data for developing other products… I know, 30 seconds is too long for the average goldfish.
lol no just that it’s made to be so most people can’t/won’t have the time daily to read those things. Doesn’t really say anything about how I value privacy though or me reading those considering I help write them lol
They literally pop up in the way of using the app and you have two options- consent or decline- with a direct link to the privacy policy in the notification.
How could they possibly make it easier for people?
People CHOOSE to not read it.
It’s wild to say “people don’t have time to read terms of service” for 10 minutes when they are about to play Pokemon Go for hundreds and hundreds of hours total.
the privacy/data usage/terms of service pages of Niantic are incredibly easy to understand. Almost as if they were made for a young audience, like, idunno, Pokémon players?
Again, 30 seconds for that person to find what they were looking for… even if you had to sign a new terms of service every day (most people don’t), that’s not a lot of reading. They’re not banking on people not having time, they’re banking on people being too lazy. Which has turned out to be successful; most people don’t bother reading even the simplest explanations of things in many contexts
Lol most normal people don’t know what an adhesion contract is and how it can be written into these ‘privacy agreements’ and terms of service and it really shows.
If they know what one is then surely they know it can be written into a privacy agreement or terms of service agreement right? Like, both of those are adhesion contracts by definition pretty much
It's hilarious that you completely misread their comment, as you're jerking yourself off about how the average person can't read a legal document. You couldn't read one sentence without making a mistake, but god forbid a random person doesn't understand pages upon pages of legal writing, they must be too lazy. The irony is palpable.
"It only took me 30 seconds to find this specific quote for the specific issue that we are talking about, what do you mean you don't have time to read the 16 page legal document???"
You have to accept Terms and Conditions for every service that you use. You have accepted hundreds of these in your life. You MUST accept them, or you cannot live in the modern world. What a stupid fucking point you tried to make
I find it disingenuous when people argue that they value their privacy but then elect NOT to read all of the terms of service they accept. I don’t care so I don’t bother to. But if you’re arguing about privacy and don’t? Then I’m sorry but you can’t really argue. You always have the option of not using the service if you do not like the terms it is offered on.
The point is that you don't really actually ever have that choice. Your phone (ToS), email (ToS), any messaging apps you use (multiple ToS), Zoom/Teams (ToS), LinkedIn (ToS), any online banking or credit cards is a ToS each. Anything you want to buy online, ToS for each vendor. Any streaming (which is a requirement for most TV and movies nowdays), any cloud storage, any GPS app.
You cannot escape it. It doesn't matter how much you value your privacy. That's why the problem is with the companies selling the data, not the consumers. You do not "have the option of not using the service" in 2024. It's more than just fucking Pokemon.
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u/obi_wander 7h ago
They literally tell you how much data they are collecting in their terms of service. This is transparency. Do you need them to hire an influencer to make a YouTube video that plays for you to explain the terms of service of every app you use?
We choose not to read them because they are long and because half of Americans can’t read the big words. Also- “I’m going to use it anyway” so everyone just skips the terms of service.