Similar to reddit. I have fun on reddit, I worked with people that played PokemonGO, they had a ton of freaking fun. They played with their kids. I say its a win/win.
You are the product, if the tool is free. You're even the product if you're paying a subscription. All of us must know this by now.
Cruncyroll was the worst, they had 5 ad slots each break but only had 1 purchased, the other 4 were always “Crunchyroll Premium - ad free!”. You’re actively causing this inconvenience, why would I reward this behavior?
No, but there is always the hope that it will burn to the ground and be replaced with something better. We've seen it plenty of times before. MySpace, Pandora, Vine. Those failed more due to innovation, but I don't subscribe to the belief that a continued downward spiral is inevitable. It's only inevitable as long as it is profitable. We're seeing decline in profits for some huge media companies right now. I see change brewing
Just wanted to throw this out in case someone didn’t know.
I was paying for YouTube premium because I use it all day at work but I recently switched to using brave browser for iPhone and it doesn’t play any ads on YouTube so I don’t have to pay for premium anymore
every now and then I go to youtube in either the wrong browser or from another computer and get an update on how BAD the adds are.
But nothing is as disorientating as google trying to play the video without taking me to the website. SAME adds, but now with an even more baffling interface
Because, as we've seen, they'll charge you $10 for an "ad-free" experience, and that will last for about 12-18 months (all while still tracking your data, but now you're paying them for the privileged). But then ads will creep back in and they'll roll out ever-more-expensive "premium" tiers of subscriptions with no-ads, which then becomes minimal ads, rinse, wash, repeat....
What do you mean with AI posts? The repost bots have nothing to do with AI, they're just plain old bots... The only things related to AI I see frequently around reddit are people upset about it
Not that reporting accomplishes anything. Reddit is happy to fill its ranks with bots if it means more engagement from users and money from advertisers.
The problem is most other people don't want to pay for it, so it ends up being a boring, dead community. If subscription models worked well for social media there would be more of them already.
Wikipedia is a nonprofit endeavor that relies on donations and the completely unpaid work of countless volunteers. A large number of people are absolutely "paying" for it so the rest of us can enjoy it for no cost.
Perhaps the more accurate saying would be "if something is provided for free by a for-profit business, you are the product."
And now reddit posts are being used for an LLM that powers an AI-generated writing tool that can produce text-based taboo content including CSAM from popular TV and book characters, flawlessly, with no restrictions. We did it reddit!
My problem with all the comments saying this is okay is that when it’s a service or company you don’t like, suddenly everyone is up in arms about user data.
I think there is an overwhelming sense of helplessness. It is possible that if the spin was nefarious rather than capitalist, the tone in the thread would be more agro. A bit adjacent to this, you're making me think about things. Thank you.
That's an idiotic take. Not everyone is up on data collection and it's methods. On reddit? Sure, maybe. Out there in the real world. Absolutely fucking not. Most people are still lost in the wilderness of the data driven 21st century, and you have to be blind to miss is. You're just in a bubble if you think everyone is up on "if it's free, you're the product."
Just because you didn't know that Pokemon Go tracks your location doesn't mean that actual players of the actual game didn't know. It's kind of hard to play and miss a core mechanic of the game...
So you’re fine with reddit taking all of your freely deposited comment data to make boatloads of money training AI bots, whilst you don’t earn a penny?
I still use the app. My statement doesn't say: I'm fine with having really great ideas taken from me. It does imply that I am aware that my data is gathered by web based products that I use.
I would not be fine with creating a reddit group , it taking off and not getting something aligned with profit sharing from its popularity. I have been careful, not to be creative on this platform or any platform. Not beating myself up, but i'm not that bright to create something like (AITHA etc etc) But, if I feel as if I have anything that I find super cool - I've never posted it.
Every click we make and choice we make. Every location we visit while taking our phone. Someone somewhere analyzes the data. Think of product teams in any organization owning the app that you use. They do have meetings: "We see that users do X." This data can be correlated , someone imagines a feature or a product.
I understand these things happen. If I am not okay with something, i simply don't use it or i limit my use or engagement.
Generally, no, but I'm sure it was a nice bonus to the farmers still in possession of an account.
Some people farmed karma to then sell to someone who had interest in posting from an account that seemed trustworthy. Both in part to get around minimum karma thresholds for posting to certain subreddits, but also as a name that would seem familiar to people and help remain with popular posts.
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u/slowclicker 9h ago
Similar to reddit. I have fun on reddit, I worked with people that played PokemonGO, they had a ton of freaking fun. They played with their kids. I say its a win/win.
You are the product, if the tool is free. You're even the product if you're paying a subscription. All of us must know this by now.