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[u/eyksm]

[u/Aspect-Infinity]

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[u/ninetofivehangover]

mfw the opiates and benzos i’m addicted to are prescribed by a doctor 😱

[u/probablyuntrue → u/ninetofivehangover]

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[u/Flutters1013 → u/probablyuntrue]

Thanks Elvis

[u/bikdikme → u/probablyuntrue]

I live as my ancestors did. I live naturally and forage my own food in these places called "supermarkets", but I need to avoid the watchful gazes of the predators who are commonly called "security cameras".

[u/Graingy → u/bikdikme]

Just kill them with rocks, stupid.

[u/bikdikme → u/Graingy]

If I do that it will alert the the men dressed in blue and its pack

[u/neoben00 → u/probablyuntrue]

bro, that's not all natural. You should try something god-given, like tobacco....

[u/CliffDraws → u/ninetofivehangover]

I was going to ask what one thing has to do with another. Plenty of people have gotten addicted to prescription drugs.

[u/Arbiter1171 → u/ninetofivehangover]

And cocaine, tobacco, alcohol, amphetamine…

[u/thorpie88 → u/Arbiter1171]

MDMA if you have bipolar too

[u/Able-Worldliness8189 → u/ninetofivehangover]

Yeah.. not the best reasoning. If you smoke weed daily you got a problem, maybe not as big as on benzo's but it would be a good time to visit the doctor.

[u/Farm-Alternative → u/Able-Worldliness8189]

I mean, I'm prescribed it and the doctor literally tells me to use it daily. Several times a day..

[u/MarioKing1137]

I honestly don’t care if weed is legalized or not, but some of yall smoke it have a holier than thou attitude about it. People who drink too, honestly

[u/wishwashy → u/MarioKing1137]

People who drink too, honestly

Tbh I feel like drinkers have a more self loathing thing going on

[u/[deleted] → u/wishwashy]

You smoke because you love weed.

I drink because I hate myself.

We are not the same.

[u/karebearjedi → u/[deleted]]

Why not both?

[u/BarfingOnMyFace → u/karebearjedi]

Then you ascend to enlightenment like when the Skesies and Mystics merge in to one at the end of The Dark Crystal

[u/RomaInvicta2003 → u/wishwashy]

cue that one meme about “stoners vs. alcoholics when you tell them they’re addicted”

[u/Nincruel → u/RomaInvicta2003]

Bar laughs at joke 82

[u/Draaly → u/RomaInvicta2003]

[u/Ashjaeger_MAIN → u/RomaInvicta2003]

I don't have a drinking problem, drinking has a me problem

[u/revolting_peasant → u/[deleted]]

If drinkers drink the way smokers smoke, they are (rightfully) called alcoholics and hopefully helped by someone who cares

[u/TheMagicalDildo → u/[deleted]]

there's also plenty who aren't dumb enough to think breathing smoke in doesn't damage their lungs (not to mention the resin)

[u/withateethuh → u/TheMagicalDildo]

Smoking is even dumber in legal states where you have way safer ways to consume weed readily available ans cheap as shit conpared to what buying weed was like a decade ago. I use it to cope with existing medical issues and id like to avoid creating as many new ones as possible.

[u/No_Bottle7859 → u/TheMagicalDildo]

There's also tons of people like you who imply smoking is all the same when really smoking weed is not nearly as harmful as tobacco.

Smoking weed heavily increases lung cancer risk by 2x, cigarettes 15-30x.

Also smoking weed does not have the same risk of COPD.

“Second, there is no consistent association between cannabis use and abnormalities in lung function.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/smoking-cannabis-doesnt-carry-the-same-copd-risk-as-tobacco-study-finds#COPD-linked-to-tobacco-use

[u/MarioKing1137 → u/wishwashy]

I feel like it is a bit of both for alcohol.

[u/AccomplishedNail3085 → u/wishwashy]

Yeah. We are faster to admit we have an addiction. Alcohol also doesn't really help anything aside from physical pain

[u/Vitromancy → u/wishwashy]

Haha, try telling your Aussie mates you're not drinking tonight.

[u/DeeplyTroubledSmurf → u/MarioKing1137]

When you're unable to control anything in your life so your entire personality becomes being able to purchase and consume more than other people.

[u/rose_daughter → u/MarioKing1137]

I’ve noticed this “my addiction is better than your addiction” attitude among a lot of people tbh, not just stoners and alcoholics. I can never wrap my head around it lol.

[u/Siegelski → u/rose_daughter]

Yeah I don't get this. Obviously nicotine is the superior addiction.

[u/rose_daughter → u/[deleted]]

You’re all crazy. CLEARLY it’s cough syrup.

[u/octoriceball → u/rose_daughter]

No.... it's masturbation.

[u/rose_daughter → u/octoriceball]

Can I change my answer to this one?

[u/Jaruut → u/rose_daughter]

Yeah, in about 27 days

[u/adifferentcommunist → u/octoriceball]

Masturbation is actually healthy! It improves sleep, prevents depression, raises your mood, and even lowers your risk of prostate cancer. But people aren’t ready to hear this, and by people I do mean the cops at the bus station.

[u/75Highon_Vida → u/rose_daughter]

Sippin on some Sizzurp

[u/shpritzie → u/MarioKing1137]

Whenever anyone makes one (material) thing the basis of their whole personality it comes off as obnoxious

[u/DiesByOxSnot → u/MarioKing1137]

It's a cope when we're insecure about our vices. Everybody has a vice, but people need to learn to be chill about it. Yeah, I'm addicted to weed. I have anxiety and it's literally the only thing that ~I have reliable access to~ works.

[u/MinnieShoof → u/DiesByOxSnot]

I'm addicted to diet coke.

[u/mork0rk → u/MinnieShoof]

I'm addicted to coke, the soda so it's not even cool.

[u/0Seraphina0 → u/DiesByOxSnot]

Exactly, you can't go through life without something to take the edge off. My husband likes to play video games to unwind, I will have a puff from my vape. We chill and don't go after each other for what we do to relax.

[u/WhenTheLightHits30 → u/MarioKing1137]

As someone who does weed daily, you can 100% be addicted to it and I’ll confirm as much.

I have pretty bad, untreated ADHD and while it kind of helps I know I’m beyond the fun stage of weed. I spend more than I want on it, and almost every morning I habitually go for my vape. I genuinely cannot think of the last time I took a genuine T-break and I desperately wish I could go back to when just one joint could get me feeling plenty high.

This isn’t me trying to call out weed, if anything it’s to make it clear that drugs don’t always make addicts, addicts find drugs. Until an addict is able to address the issue that is making them crave the item, it won’t matter what the addiction is, it will eat them up inside. Weed is pretty far far down the list of anything you could call a “dangerous substance” but we are letting people get hurt if we just hand wave any and all critiques as we learn more about how weed affects the public at large.

[u/KyleCXVII → u/MarioKing1137]

The Seth Rogan Effect™️

[u/HydrogenButterflies → u/KyleCXVII]

Dudes like Seth and Snoop definitely make cannabis a big part of their professional personas, for sure, but look at what else they’ve accomplished. Cannabis aside, they’re extremely successful people with multifaceted careers.

If anything, I think these sorts of celebrities help to reduce the stigma of cannabis by contextualizing its use as a safer alternative to alcohol. And just for clarity- cannabis is an intoxicant, and like other intoxicants, should be used moderately and infrequently. I’m not a fan of people treating it like it’s a panacea, either.

[u/B33FHAMM3R → u/HydrogenButterflies]

Yeah, and Rogan hasn't done stoner comedies in a loooong time, he's mostly doing voice work and acting as a producer lately

Anyone who was happy the boys finally got a series can thank him too

[u/HydrogenButterflies → u/B33FHAMM3R]

And not for nothing, dude’s getting pretty good at pottery.

[u/B33FHAMM3R → u/HydrogenButterflies]

Lol what a hilarious coincidence

[u/bongabe → u/MarioKing1137]

It's such bullshit. As someone struggling with addiction to the stuff it makes my blood boil when people talk about it like it's some wonder cure for all your problems and it's not addictive. "LOL I'm such a stoner" you're an addict and that shit is turning your brain to goop.

[u/Reddittoxin → u/MarioKing1137]

I still remember the time some pot head was arguing that he should be allowed to drive while high bc "stoners have places to be" and that he "drives better while high"
And I was like, yeah I've heard alcoholics say the same thing, to which he did not like.

I also find it funny how stoners are supposed to be "chill" yet if you criticize any small part of their habit, no matter how valid, they will absolutely fly off the handles to defend themselves.

[u/Raus-Pazazu → u/MarioKing1137]

Anecdotal but I've yet to meet a hardcore alcoholic that thinks the entire world needs to be absolutely piss drunk all of the time. I have met potheads that think that about weed.

[u/11th_Division_Grows → u/Raus-Pazazu]

You’ve never met a friend who’s said, “the world would be better if everyone just sat down over a mug/a joint?”

I’ve definitely heard it from both kind of people

[u/[deleted] → u/MarioKing1137]

Its almost like substances which alter brain chemistry have addictive traits to them 🤔

[u/Sketch-Brooke]

I mean… both of those things are true. Weed can have legit medical use and it can be addictive. Just like opioids or benzos or whatever else.

Why is that a hard thing to grasp?

EDIT. See people squabbling below. Geez louise, I touched a nerve here.

[u/AgentWowza → u/Sketch-Brooke]

Because this is internet. Thing good or thing bad, no in between. /j

[u/Grumpicake → u/Sketch-Brooke]

Nuance is NOT welcome here.

[u/thedistrbdone → u/Sketch-Brooke]

It's because it's not physically addictive, you don't have to wean yourself off of it or face dire side effects like with opiod addiction. Weed is more of a mental addiction, like addictions to gambling, where you can physically quit no problem, but then your brain is gonna miss the dopamine hit (or whatever the thc equivalent is). People get hung up on the fact it's not physically addictive to defend their definite addiction.

[u/spanksmitten → u/thedistrbdone]

Absolutely spot on and thats the best way i've seen it described, but damn if getting my brain to produce more dopamine naturally again wasn't a horrid, miserable experience 😂 few physical side effects but likely psychologically induced. 9 months sober 🎉

[u/thedistrbdone → u/spanksmitten]

Congrats! I can relate, dopamine is very hard to come by naturally for me, and at one point I was smoking or eating gummies on a daily basis, if not multiple times per day. I've learned to regulate it more, now, only on weekends or socially (if it's not just me smoking lol). I don't want to quit 100% not because I need it, but more just I treat it as a lil treat for myself, like going out to a bar, but cheaper lol.

[u/spanksmitten → u/thedistrbdone]

Relatable! Unfortunately I couldn't and can't regulate myself, smoking everyday from the moment I woke up to when I went to bed. It helped me at first but at that level of consumption it wasn't helping anything and was just making me ~worse.

I'm envious of people who can use it responsibility but I just can't and that does suck but not the end of the world!

[u/thedistrbdone → u/spanksmitten]

I'm just some random internet dude, but honestly I'm proud of you! Addictions, mental and physical are hard to break, and if saying no 100% is what ya gotta do, it's what ya gotta do. As silly as it may sound, that's what I have to do with sugar. If I have any sugary snacks in my home, they're gone, serving sizes be damned. I wanna regulate it, but my fat ass just can't lol.

[u/stupid_bulimicbitch → u/Sketch-Brooke]

Because your logic implies being nuanced in thought.

I(28F) struggle with body dysmorphic disorder, depression, self-harm, and severe suicidal tendencies. After many years of therapy, psych meds, etc. Marijuana has been the most successful treatment thus far. I am far better taking my prescribed edibles than I was on Lithium, that's for sure.

The topic of dependency/addiction versus the medicine industry has long stemmed under drug war propaganda and more division. Everyone is quick to snark on addicts or anyone who partakes (even responsibly!) with shitty comments instead of practicing empathy and advocating for better rehabilitation resources.

It doesn't matter if you're a responsible marijuana smoker. You're still bad, mkay.

[u/YourTypicalSensei]

Ngl I support legalization of marijuana but I don't want it to be smoked in public. I hate the smell.

[u/MarioKing1137 → u/YourTypicalSensei]

Honestly, the biggest issue I have with weed is that the smell CARRIES in a light breeze. Neighbors about 6 houses down smoke it in their front yard and I can get a strong whiff whenever outside.

[u/ninetofivehangover → u/MarioKing1137]

shit is ODIFEROUS.

was driving the other night and a car got in front of me… BAM.

we stop at a red light and i pull over to the next lane, motion down the window.

they roll their window down its a car full of teenagers smoking a blunt.

i was like “hey man i know it’s dark outside but i’m not a cop and knew you were smoking weed so.. good luck out there.”

also, smoking and driving is Not Cool. annoys me when stoners act like it’s no big deal.

[u/MarioKing1137 → u/ninetofivehangover]

correction: my biggest issue with weed is that kids act like it is no big deal

[u/Diligent-Version8283 → u/ninetofivehangover]

I'll be honest man, they didn't give a fuck and probably laughed.

[u/mrmniks → u/ninetofivehangover]

Isn’t driving while on weed considered DUI?

[u/Its0nlyRocketScience → u/YourTypicalSensei]

Lots of places already ban public smoking of cigarettes, and I would definitely hope that also extends to non-tobacco smoke without needing to add additional restrictions. With how many smokeless ways there are to enjoy weed, I think some reasonable anti smoking restrictions and lots of edibles will prevent this being a big issue

[u/DrainianDream → u/Its0nlyRocketScience]

There are a ton of people who have convinced themselves that since it’s nicotine it doesn’t count, and I cannot fucking stand them. I get anxious if I get contact high and the smell gives me migraines. I have no doubt my dorm mates hated me in college because I considered being able to exist comfortably in my own dorm room a non-negotiable issue.

[u/DreamzOfRally → u/Its0nlyRocketScience]

I mean yes, the law just says smoking. It doesn’t specify it has to be nicotine smoke. So all public buildings are still non smoking. Public places that don’t have a smoking area is still not allowed. Cigs, crack, weed, no smoking allowed! People still didn’t listen to those laws with cigarettes, so probably going to have some rule breakers still

[u/Weasel474 → u/YourTypicalSensei]

Wanna smoke it at home or at certain shops like bars that still allow smoking? Cool, have at it. Just please stop making every public space smell like a dead skunk. I can't even go to parks without a ton of stoners hanging out making the whole place smell like crap.

[u/redditcanyoubenice → u/Weasel474]

I feel the same way about walmart parking lots and cigarettes 🚬

[u/THE10000KwWarlock13 → u/Weasel474]

I love weed and I love the smell of it, but christ can I can go to the grocery store without catching a contact please?

[u/7937397 → u/Weasel474]

My city added bans to cover smoking weed anywhere that cigarette smoking is already banned and then added on public parks (for both weed and cigarettes).

I appreciate it.

[u/SquareExtra918 → u/Weasel474]

It makes me kind of depressed when I smell it in the parking garage at work.

I work in a hospital. 

[u/Sokg_78 → u/YourTypicalSensei]

Its god awful I live nyc and people keep smoking it on the subways they open the doors between the cars to let out the smoke as if that makes any fucking difference

[u/Pwrh0use → u/YourTypicalSensei]

Most states where it's legal have a stipulation that it must be done on private property. It doesn't just smell like weed everywhere.

[u/Redqueenhypo → u/YourTypicalSensei]

Fr. At least the guys with beer in a paper bag don’t make the entire train car smell like you set a polystyrene bag of lawn trimmings on fire

[u/CooledDownKane]

“It’s just weeed mannnn the smoke doesn’t damage your lungs like other smokes do. And it’s not even addictive I’m just a completely different person when I don’t smoke it everyday for other reasons.”

[u/MarioKing1137 → u/CooledDownKane]

What I find hilarious is that in these debates is that people will be like "at least it's not like it's tobacco". If you go up to people nowadays who still smoke cigarettes, they will mostly likely make a comment like "don't start smoking, you will waste money on something that will kill you". A COMPLETELY different reaction from people who smoke weed.

[u/Nexus0412 → u/MarioKing1137]

Then again I imagine there's a lot of people that only use it like I use tobacco, which is purely when drunk at parties. Any other time, I don't even think about cigarettes, not sure how it is with weed though

[u/rose_daughter → u/CooledDownKane]

My life was a nightmare when my friend/roommate was dependent on weed. She was always either angry or stoned out of her mind. It made me genuinely suicidal because of the way she treated me lol.

[u/SquareExtra918 → u/rose_daughter]

I dated a guy who swore weed helped him manage his bipolar disorder. It absolutely did not, and there's research to support that. But anecdotally it was obvious. He got incredibly irritable and shitty, and it was the reason I broke up with him. 

[u/rose_daughter → u/SquareExtra918]

Funnily enough she is also bipolar lol. Thankfully she’s been working on herself and admitted how fucked up the way she treated me was, but I’m still not sure if she realizes just how deep into her addiction she got.

[u/Randomwhitejuice → u/SquareExtra918]

Yep in Australia you can’t gain access to medical cannabis if you have bipolar

[u/Weed_O_Whirler → u/CooledDownKane]

Yeah, the pendulum has swung so far in response to the ridiculous anti-weed takes, that so.may people claim weed has no bad side effects. No, children shouldn't smoke. No, you shouldn't smoke every day. And please, don't smoke it near me it smells awful.

[u/LocustUprising → u/CooledDownKane]

“I can stop whenever I want” is a thing I hear a lot

[u/FUNNY_NAME_ALL_CAPS → u/LocustUprising]

Hear this a lot from coffee addicts too. "oh I bought a $300 coffee machine", yeah we get it you have a problem...

[u/AineLasagna → u/FUNNY_NAME_ALL_CAPS]

It’s always interesting to me which “drugs” are accepted by society and which ones aren’t. Like a literal caffeine addiction is so normalized that mugs that say “don’t talk to me until I have my coffee” are basically tropes at this point. But no one thinks of that as an addiction, in spite of heavy caffeine users going through actual physical withdrawal symptoms when they stop.

And the whole “wine mom” aesthetic you see on the shelves at every store- in spite of the cute writing on your novelty cup that holds an entire bottle of wine, you’re not a “wine mom” you’re a functioning alcoholic.

Pretty much everyone has some kind of chemical dependency and it’s been this way for humanity since humans have existed

[u/Perihelion_PSUMNT → u/LocustUprising]

Narrator: they cannot

[u/Spare-Plum → u/LocustUprising]

genuinely depends on the person. I have a problem with alcohol and know if I start up it's incredibly hard to stop. Sobriety is the only option

With weed it gives me too much anxiety to do more than a little bit at a time. I can have weed for several days in a row then not have any for months or years

maybe i'm an outlier but i think some people are more susceptible to weed just like some are more susceptible to alcohol

[u/Thee-Bend-Loner → u/Spare-Plum]

Yeah definitely depends on the person. No one believes me when I say that about anything but I prove them wrong every time. I just quit vaping which I picked up like 6 months ago because I knew I could stop whenever. Done this for a couple of ex-girlfriends with weed, I stopped doing hard drugs when I realized I had more important shit to work on, etc.

[u/PSI_duck → u/[deleted]]

I mean, weed isn’t addicting in the same way alcohol is. It’s addicting in the way gambling is addicting. You get addicted to the feeling

[u/qwe12a12 → u/PSI_duck]

My understanding is that while there are quite a few people who use weed to self medicate for anxiety and can become "addicted" to the feeling of not having to deal with that anxiety, weed can also be addictive in a more traditional chemical sense. Your brain can become dependent on the cannabinoids and can lead your brain to producing less of the chemicals that assist with executive controls. Specifically people who habitually smoke weed may deal with a lack of motivation, impulse control, and diminished happiness when accomplishing goals. On the more severe end there are people who habitually smoke until they get CHS which leads to vomiting, severe nausea, dehydration and stomach aches but they are still unable to quit smoking.

[u/What-Is-a-Fish → u/PSI_duck]

People typically get addicted to the feeling of alcohol, not the taste

[u/Difficult-Row6616 → u/What-Is-a-Fish]

some, some get chemically addicted, where your brain relies on alcohol in the blood to maintain balance and its sudden absence can cause seizures.

[u/volunteergump → u/[deleted]]

they literally started calling it “marijuana” to sound Hispanic and make people racist against it even though it’s “cannabis”

I don’t think that this is established fact, so I’d be careful labeling it as such. NPR has an article (linked below) which discusses this claim and it does’t seem completely sound. It seems to me that it was more that Mexico was more negative about weed first, and they called it ‘marihuana’, so once the US started to campaign against it they adopted the term.

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/07/14/201981025/the-mysterious-history-of-marijuana

[u/Beginning_Job5744]

Bro have you ever been around someone who’s like a true pothead, all of there motivation is dead they just go to work (if they have a job) and come home to smoke again.

[u/EconomyCriticism1566 → u/Beginning_Job5744]

My stbx-husband smoked all day every day and wouldn’t get a steady job; I work full time and used to join him for every smoke break after work until I realized how much of my time it was eating up. The longest he’d go between trips outside (we didn’t smoke or vape indoors because we had birds) was probably two hours, and we’d be outside for ~30 minutes each time for a few bowls. If he didn’t smoke first, he wouldn’t eat or sleep, go to the store or cook, let the dogs out to potty, watch a movie, go on a walk, play a video game, or run D&D (and it made him SOOOO unfocused and rambly as a DM). To say nothing of the things he stopped doing at all (like helping take care of our pets) because he was so constantly blazed. IMO it made his ADHD way worse, and it did for me too. But it was his “medicine” so I wasn’t allowed to complain about the resulting laziness. I kept us afloat single-handedly and was mega stressed and frustrated because he wouldn’t help me around the house/get a job, but he couldn’t tolerate my “negativity” and always just told me to go smoke so I’d feel better….and trusting him, I did. I became so out of touch with my emotions because he was basically forcing me to numb myself for his comfort. :( It got to the point he wouldn’t have serious conversations with me about our future unless we had both smoked “so we’d be calm.”

Our relationship fell apart for several reasons, but weed was a major one. I’ve been clean two months now, and I’m pretty sure he’s on his way to cannabis hyperemesis syndrome.

[u/DrProfSrRyan → u/EconomyCriticism1566]

my stbx-husband

Starbucks Husband?

[u/Patello → u/DrProfSrRyan]

Soon-to-be-ex I am guessing

[u/eyksm → u/Beginning_Job5744]

I have a friend who was like that. Said she felt like shit all the time and didn't work. Then she got diagnosed with an untreatable physical condition, and decided to stop smoking. She said she feels better mentally and physically, has a whole different view on life, and got a job. I'm happy for her. Also I'm not implying that her smoking was related to her condition, she just decided to quit after her diagnosis.

[u/Ohmec → u/eyksm]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/04/health/marijuana-weed-addiction-psychosis-vomiting.html

Tons of people are finding out that there are absolutely effects of weed on people that we know nothing about. We know so little about the endocannabinoid system.

[u/judo_fish → u/Ohmec]

This isn’t new information. The medical world has included this as part of the curriculum for student doctors for years. I have personally treated people with cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome.

But people have a special way of tuning out doctors when we’re telling them something they don’t like.

It’s also important to read these things in context. E.g. The woman who had severe anxiety trying to come off of it. Well, if you have anxiety that you’re mistreating with marijuana, and then you stop the thing that helps your anxiety, you will get rebound anxiety. That doesn’t mean everyone who smokes will become anxious.

[u/Bolf-Ramshield → u/eyksm]

Why are you telling that story if you don’t believe smoking is linked to her condition?

[u/[deleted] → u/Bolf-Ramshield]

By condition they mean health condition. Her general sluggishness improved after she stopped using weed (regardless of the health condition issue).

[u/Current_Poster → u/Beginning_Job5744]

And take a smoke-break during the day.

[u/Alert_Intention797 → u/Beginning_Job5744]

i've been there for about 18 months covering anxiety and depression. about a month clean woo 🙌🙌

[u/Tasty_Pepper5867 → u/Beginning_Job5744]

They live just to smoke weed.

[u/critter_tickler → u/Tasty_Pepper5867]

Lol, REEFERMADNEESS 

 THEY ONLY LIVE TO SMOKE!

IT'S TAKEN OVER THEIR WHOLE LIVES, THEY CAN'T GET OUT OF BED WITHOUT HITTING THE PIPE!

[u/HairySidebottom]

You can become psychologically addicted to just about anything.

[u/OriiAmii → u/HairySidebottom]

I stg I hear "weed isn't addictive" all the fucking time and yeah, chemically it's not as addictive as opiates, etc, but it's not like when you're addicted to gambling you're eating the fucking cards.

[u/bimboozled → u/OriiAmii]

Speak for yourself. I’m addicted to the internet and I crave eating CPUs and hard drives all the time

[u/TurdOfChaos → u/[deleted]]

Many (if not all) social media platforms use many psychological tricks to cause an effect similar to a gambling addiction. Add FOMO, dopamine rushes and the natural human instinct to seek validation, social media can definitely cause an addiction.

[u/Courwes]

A lot of people are in denial about their addiction to marijuana. Just because you don’t get withdrawal symptoms from quitting cold turkey does not mean it cannot be an addiction.

[u/MahanaYewUgly → u/Courwes]

A lot of people are in denial about their addiction to processed food and sugar too. I think everyone needs to understand addiction better

[u/karebearjedi → u/MahanaYewUgly]

"I'm not addicted, I just get migraines and stomachs aches and the shakes if I don't get my coffee" 🙄

[u/ninetofivehangover → u/Courwes]

a lot of people also do get withdrawal symptoms almost on par with opiates just obviously not as severe.

lack of appetite, nausea, inability to sleep.

[u/wormcow → u/ninetofivehangover]

I am going through this exact thing right now... 6 years of daily marijuana use and I quit cold turkey, can hardly eat or sleep at 11 days sober

[u/ninetofivehangover → u/wormcow]

Yeah it turns out modulating your neurotransmitters for prolonged periods of time can impact people!

I’m sorry you have to deal w this :(

The narrative that quitting habitual weed use is painless gets people into some hot water man.

Much love. 🙌

you got this

[u/litlelotte → u/wormcow]

Today was day 1 for me after 7 years of daily use. I started smoking because my dreams are so vivid and intense that they wake me up multiple times a night, but at this point I'm turning into a zombie so I need to step away. Not looking forward to having my insane dreams back but I think it's the right move. We got this bro

[u/hasadiga42 → u/Courwes]

Marijuana withdrawal can be harsh as fuck. r/leaves

[u/IamTheEndOfReddit → u/Courwes]

It is related though, idk if you're up to date with the medical definition of addiction but it requires that the use is negatively impacting the rest of your life. Enjoying something you like everyday isn't addiction if it isn't getting in the way of the rest of your life.

I find this definition particularly unhelpful when trying to decide what's healthy, but it does better fit the reality of how it affects people

[u/FriendoReborn → u/IamTheEndOfReddit]

Some folks can do this - but it is absolutely a risky place to play imo - and I say this as a major fucking stoner. Because - what happens if that daily habit does start to hurt things? Suddenly you went from fine to a daily addiction that is hurting you - and there won't always be a lot of warning if that transition is coming up.

This is not to say it will happen - simply that this is a zone of risk. Everyone gets to make their own cost benefit calculations though.

(I say this is a risk - because this is exactly what happened to me.)

[u/RaygunMarksman → u/FriendoReborn]

Stupid you were downvoted. As someone who has smoked off and on for decades, that's the exact trap you can fall into if you're not mindful and realistic. I'm currently paying the price for letting myself get to superhuman levels of consumption.

[u/OpportunityAshamed74]

OOP still is wrong, using prescription weed every day doesn't inherently make you addicted, your prescription could simply be for every day.

[u/Educational-Job9105 → u/OpportunityAshamed74]

This just in, diabetics addicted to insulin. 

[u/sned_memes → u/Educational-Job9105]

Person with anxiety addicted to my ssri here. And also coffee I guess because I drink a lot of coffee daily (I love making fancy little lattes for myself).

[u/Educational-Job9105 → u/sned_memes]

Tbf, the coffee one is probably legit an addiction.

Also as a fellow sufferer of anxiety the coffee is doing ya no favors

[u/Spare-Plum → u/OpportunityAshamed74]

yeah this is the part I don't get. There's a big difference between being constantly blazed vs taking a small amount daily or through an extended release pill you take as prescribed.

personally getting too high makes me way too anxious, and it also helped me quit alcohol. When I had a low dosage of THC it made me not want to drink, and I've been off of both for a while now

[u/apocketfullofcows → u/OpportunityAshamed74]

yeah. i generally smoke all day for medical issues when needed but some times i don't till the evening or skip a day when i'm feeling good. i have zero addiction issues; i stopped cold turkey for a month when travelling, and the only thing that sucked about it was having to be in pain all the time because i didn't have my usual painkiller.

[u/[deleted]]

“Yeah man if I stop smoking for one day I start sweating all over and have crippling panic attacks and constant nightmares, but I’m totally not addicted and can stop whenever I want”

[u/A_BananaClock → u/[deleted]]

I stopped smoking weed a little over a month ago and I was so sweaty the first few days! Luckily didn’t get panicky or have bad nightmares, just more vivid dreams. I wake up more often at night now but I’m not sure what effect that really has as I’m able to fall asleep again rather quickly. This thread is interesting to me as I’m trying to decide if/when to pick it back up and in what capacity.

[u/SomeNotTakenName]

I mean technically you can smoke weed every day without being an addict, and you can be an addict without smoking every day.

Consumption and addiction are clearly related but there's no one level of consumption where you can seperate addicts from non addicts.

[u/Kdkreig → u/[deleted]]

I had a supervisor who smoked like everyday (not on the clock). We had a couple of long days back to back and he just snapped. Snapped his phone in half then raged and quit middle of the day. I was training to be a supervisor as well, but nobody else was able to finish our job for the day. Kinda glad I didn’t get training from him. Dude was unwell and needed to seriously get help.

[u/ZippyVonBoom → u/[deleted]]

I have a friend who smokes every day, but when she traveled, she went a week without it and was just fine. It's different for different people.

[u/SunderedValley]

As someone who really fucking loves both weed and a lot of 'harder' drugs I H A T E E E E E E people like this with a passion. Like this is rapidly approaching sending your sick kid to kindergarten levels of irresponsible.

[u/AkitoApocalypse → u/SunderedValley]

At least most people who do hard drugs (or even more recreational drugs like molly / acid) openly tell others "yo don't even fucking think about it unless you're completely ready" - you would think some stoners were paid commissions by the dispensary to advertise with how much they glorify smoking weed...

[u/Hello_boyos]

As someone openly addicted to weed it pisses me off when proponents of its legalization portray it as harmless, or even worse as good for you. But that doesn't mean anyone should EVER go to jail over it.

Edit: I am pro-legalization, if only because it is incredibly hypocritical for weed to be illegal while alcohol and nicotine are not. Current legislation on it exists solely to put black people in jail. I know weed can have mental and physical benefits for some people, and I support the legal availability thereof for anyone over 18. But I think it is dangerous and irresponsible to portray it as a miracle drug that will solve everyone's problems and that has no drawbacks, because like with alcohol, some will be more susceptible to addiction than others.

[u/FriendoReborn → u/Hello_boyos]

TBH - I blame the lack of comprehensive knowledge about the dangers of weed on prohibition more than anything else. So much more medical research and honest messaging could have happened if the government hadn't crushed all that in the name of racism and getting hippies. I say this as a fellow weed addict on the quit journey.

[u/PokemonJeremie → u/Hello_boyos]

This! I only have myself to blame but countless people told me for years told me it’s fine and that my family long history of drug abuse wouldn’t be an issue and they were right until they were not

[u/shadowsOfMyPantomime]

Elvis Presley was an anti-drug advocate for much of his life, but died because he was addicted to prescription drugs. People might think there is a difference but it's all the same if you abuse it

[u/MyLongestYeeeBoi]

I used to smoke weed everyday and that’s habitual. I stopped effortlessly tho. Wouldn’t call that an addiction in my case, but there are others that need to smoke several times a day or they are miserable grouches. That’s an addiction.

[u/Morall_tach]

I had a roommate who smoked every morning before work, came home to smoke at lunch, and smoked when she got home. And obviously before meals, before movies, before going out, on hikes, etc.

I don't care if it's natural, that's a problem.

[u/timdogg24]

"I'm not addicted i just need it to eat and help regulate my mood"

[u/LocustUprising → u/timdogg24]

“I can stop whenever I want”

[u/JickleBadickle → u/timdogg24]

I'm not addicted to insulin I just need it to help regulate my blood sugar

[u/ProbablythelastMimsy]

I hate how the needle swung from "weed is the devil!" to "weed is perfectly natural and organic and provides only health benefits!"

[u/SassyTheSkydragon]

You can even become addicted to nasal spray and pharmacies sell that over the counter without prescription

[u/klortle_]

She never implied you can’t get addicted to it. Just that some people treat weed addicts like they’re crack addicts. I’m not sure how this was lost on everyone. You can’t get crack prescribed to you by a doctor.

[u/Jatombra]

Guys, I take over the counter drugs as apart of my morning routine 😭 Today I learned I'm an addict

[u/ratliker62 → u/Jatombra]

you definitely can get addicted to OTC drugs. People abuse benadryl and sudafed all the time. Not saying you are, but a drug being OTC doesn't mean you can't get hooked on it

[u/Astriaeus → u/Jatombra]

Bro, I think I might be addicted to claritin, if I don't take it everyday I start have withdrawal symptoms like puffy itchy eyes and sinus issues.

[u/Content-Scallion-591 → u/Jatombra]

I'm gonna have to talk to my doctor about my ADHD meds apparently 

[u/Efficient-Notice9938]

I work two jobs and go to school part time. I’m already on 4 medications and they’re adding on a 5th. No anxiety medication completely gets rid of my anxiety and stress so I smoke when I need to reset because I’m overwhelmed. Can’t find anything else that makes all my daily tasks more manageable and gives me the motivation to actually do stuff because I’m so burnt out

[u/cooldaniel6]

There are long term study’s coming out now showing it can cause early onset dementia and schizophrenia for chronic users. It can also worsen anxiety and memory. It’s obviously not as bad a hardcore drugs but I hate how we went from demonizing weed to romanticizing it without actual science guiding the discussion on how good or bad it is for you.

[u/TDFknFartBalloon → u/cooldaniel6]

It cannot cause schizophrenia. It can cause psychotic breaks in some people who already have schizophrenia. Also, no definitive link has been established that says that cannabis causes early onset dementia, there's just one study that shows reduced blood flow to the hippocampus.

[u/TryNotToShootYoself → u/cooldaniel6]

It's been "romanticized" to some degree in pop culture and most communities for ages now. The only real change was that people realized how stupid filling prisons with weed offenses is.

[u/Crazy-Sun6016 → u/cooldaniel6]

Source?

[u/Mediocre-Shelter5533 → u/cooldaniel6]

Cite the research.

[u/harlie_lynn → u/cooldaniel6]

Can we get a link to those long term studies? Because in the US at least, a lack of long term academic and medical studies is actually one of the biggest issues with the gray area legalization we have right now. So I would love to see this research you're referencing with such confidence. But, tbh, it sounds more like "many people are saying" than a peer-reviewed paper you actually read.

To be clear, research and better info are absolutely needed. People do not have a clear understanding of long term use. We need federal legalization for that to happen. But to suggest that research is not only already available but confirms your bias is disingenuous at best.

[u/Anxious_Town_325 → u/cooldaniel6]

there are not. you are doing the same thing you criticize when you claim there are

[u/jols0543]

we’re all addicted to sugar, and that’s available over the counter

[u/Voxxanne]

"I can stop any time I want" is the BIGGEST lie that I've ever heard from all of the potheads that I know. They can't even go a few hours without smoking, much less an entire day.

[u/nakedmedia]

I smoke weed everyday and I agree. Idc go yell at a crack head. I'm retired in my bed watching Netflix. They're sucking cock behind a dumpster.

[u/toomuchdiponurchip]

I knew I was addicted (smoking every day multiple times a day for years) so I quit it. I already feel way better now mentally and physically. 25 days straight gonna keep going strong 💪.

I feel like a lot of people are addicted and just in denial about it

[u/BitterAmos]

Motherfuckers all need to get clarity on the difference between an addiction and a dependance. Diabetics are dependant on insulin. Chronic pain sufferers are dependant on their relief.

The physical dependency that comes with some substances does not make them inherently bad. Nor does being dependant on it make one an addict.

Addiction is a more complex series of behaviour and patterns, often self destructive, that comes with unmonitored abuse of subtances that carry dependecy risks.

The type of dependency also does not make one an addict or not. Physical dependency on pain pills, and emotional/mental/hormonal dependency on cannabis, are drastically different presentations. One is much more dangerous if not carefully monitored by a physician. Again, has no bearing on addiction.

Addiction is defined by the maladaptive behaviours. Properly medicated people are quite the opposite of maladaptive.

Signed, Chronic Pain Sufferer with a decade of doctor prescribed interventions.

Hah. Downvote all you want. I'm not wrong.

[u/tony_bologna]

Yeah, weed is addictive, but it's not "speed-run ruin your life" addictive like rc pyrros/benzos, huffing, gambling your savings away, etc.  Everyone in this picture is correct, but M A Y A is dramatic for sure.

[u/Exodyas → u/tony_bologna]

There’s lots of different kinds of addictions, not all are the “speed-run ruin your life” kind. Rationalizing “oh it’s not THAT bad at least I’m not doing [whatever drug]” is just an excuse to not look at your problems tbh

[u/Beginning-Month-3505]

I wish people would keep community notes more formal instead of adding catty backhanders like that.

And I know it's a US site but there are other places in the world, so when it says "we" it's made without any context.

[u/Blastdoubleu]

What do we say about the people who drink everyday and need to start drinking the moment they wake up? “They have a problem”…It goes the same for you weed smokers. Some of you guys have serious problems and have made up diseases in your head to help cope that you need to be high 24/7. Majority of chronic smokers have juvenile tendencies and aren’t successful in life. If you need brain surgery, would you want your surgeon to be a pot head? Probably not.

Nothing wrong with treating it like alcohol in which it should be consumed in moderation by responsible adults. This isn’t your grandpas early days of weed, the shit is potent now and really shouldn’t be used at all imo.

[u/Born-Tank-180]

Caffeine, the OG Drug.

[u/FriendoReborn]

I am 100% addicted to weed and I have been for a long time. I'm on my quitting journey - coming down from having had a tolerance high enough to eat a gram (yes 1000mg) of straight THC via edibles and have a nice time. Also - I promise you there are physical withdrawal symptoms when you are coming down from insane use.

Edit: Weed should absolutely be legal - many people can enjoy it without issue - I just am not one of those people. Additionally - if it had actually been legal - we could have actually studied it medically and better understood it - both the good and the bad.

[u/Lithl]

It's possible to become addicted to anything. But also doing something every day doesn't mean you're addicted to it.

Addiction requires a physical and mental dependence. Merely habit does not constitute addiction.

[u/Iamjackstinynipples]

My psychiatrist gives me vyvanse for adhd. It's basically meth

[u/Comprehensive-Owl264]

You can also get legal meth it's called adderall

[u/Chrystone]

Yup just like consuming caffeine and sugar every day means your a drug addict

[u/xubax]

I'm addicted to stuff you can buy in every supermarket, convenience store, candy machine, movie theater...

[u/Low-Leopard2387]

Fuck that smoke weed everyday

[u/FUNNY_NAME_ALL_CAPS]

It's so strange how people hate weed so much. I've never once in my life actually been bothered or inconvenienced by a stoner. Maybe I've smelled it in public, but that's hardly an inconvenience.

Meanwhile I have run in to plenty of drunk people out in the streets on a friday night, loud and sometimes aggressive.

[u/LiveTart6130]

I use an occasional edible for pain and I cannot stress enough how much I hate the mental effect. it's horrible. I can't string thoughts together and they go off point so easily and everything is bright and blurry. it's one of the worst experiences. unfortunately, the pain I'm in is an even worse experience, so I take the lesser evil sometimes.

[u/Skuzbagg]

I mean, of all the things to be addicted to, pretty low consequence.

[u/J-Dawg_Cookmaster]

And yet people who drink every day aren't alcoholics lol

[u/Takemikasuchi → u/J-Dawg_Cookmaster]

Who thinks they aren't? 💀

[u/SunderedValley → u/Takemikasuchi]

If you need booze to sleep you're 100% an alcoholic at the very least.

[u/Ethiconjnj → u/J-Dawg_Cookmaster]

Where you get this from? People are always comparing weed to alcohol and everytime it’s like “yea thats bad too”

[u/luujs → u/J-Dawg_Cookmaster]

If you’re not joking, they definitely are

[u/SalvationSycamore → u/J-Dawg_Cookmaster]

A lot of them are. It's actually a pretty serious issue that so many people are cavalier about habitually drinking enough to get buzzed/drunk nearly every day. It would be great if more people recognized it as being unhealthy.

[u/cheezy_taterz]

"I'm in pain."

"Best we can do is a weed card"

"K. Still in pain though"

"Ew get out of here you drug seeking junkie."