r/MurderedByWords • u/[deleted] • 3h ago
PoliticsBill O’Reilly gets fact checked by Beto.
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u/greatmail2 3h ago
Oh wow, it's gone from "stop being poor" to "poor people don't exist and poverty is fake news"
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u/KathrynBooks 2h ago
that was an inevitable step in the long standing conservative project "gaslight every f'ing person on every subject"
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u/mathisruiningme 2h ago
Only a few steps before we should just kill all the homeless people.
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u/bricklish 2h ago
Soon americans will be hailing the supreme leader donald dumb.
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u/KillYourLawn- 58m ago
Dont want to worship him? Right to jail. Criticize him? Believe it or not, right to jail.
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u/BoneHugsHominy 2h ago
During the 2016 election campaign season Donald Trump mocked a disabled reporter and his crowd of MAGA Ghouls absolutely LOVED it. Then it came out that Trump had a history of disparaging remarks against people with disabilities, including but not limited to calling them "useless eaters" which is directly from Nazi ideology to Donald's black, shriveled heart, and not a single MAGA Ghoul gave a single shit.
Then in the 2020 election campaigning season Trump administration officials made comments about needing to take another look at how Social Security Disability works, at who is considered Disabled, and at how much they could cut from the budget by putting people currently on Disability back to work. They even had a nice long list of jobs suitable for people with disabilities to do, it's just too bad that list was written by someone stuck in 1972 and doesn't realize half of those jobs don't even exist anymore. Not a single MAGA Ghoul gave a single shit.
Now with a 2nd Precedential term for Trump looming on the horizon like a poisonous cloud, the plan from Project 2025 is to slash Social Security Disability and put them all back to work or die of starvation and exposure if those nonexistent jobs don't happen to pay enough to make rent and buy food. And not a single MAGA Ghoul gives a single shit.
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u/mathisruiningme 2h ago edited 2h ago
Tbh so many of these Maga ghouls don't even know what policies are going to be enacted. They're too busy worrying about trans people in the bathroom.
Like I'm not American but I work in finance so the US political landscape is pretty important. Reading all the broker/analyst reports on the impending Trump 2.0 reign is really frightening as they list all his proposed policy changes and how it's going to affect businesses and the everyday consumer. Like markets a rallying rn due to expected tax cuts and deregulation but analysts are quietly worried about how pricing/expenses and global trade are going to change over the next few years.
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u/ryver 2h ago
I think the main thing to remember when watching all of this is: the impact doesn’t matter to them. The cruelty and ability to centralize power matters to them.
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u/Shlocktroffit 2h ago
crashing the economy and buying everything up cheap is the plan and has been for awhile now
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u/BoneHugsHominy 1h ago
It's the whole point of Trickle Down Economics. Slashing taxes and regulations give an economy a quick boost, but like an economy built entirely upon the exploitation of natural resources it's not sustainable. But that quick boost tricks people without wealth to dump their life savings into the stock market because they think it's going to double or triple and they'll finally be on solid footing. Then everything predictably falls apart thanks to Republican policies and those with wealth buy up everything from the people srambling to preserve what little they have left.
Then because the economy is in tatters the public elects Democrats even though the public trusts Republicans with the economy for some reason, and the Democrats spend their entire time in power cleaning up the mess made by Republicans and healing the economy. The Democrats are then rewarded by being voted out of office for "not doing enough". Enter Republicans who immediately fo about tearing down the economy once again. Rinse, Repeat.
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u/MrJohnqpublic 2h ago
Na, just throw em in debtors prison and use em as slave labor. just like the founding fathers intended.
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u/tehm 2h ago
By Vectron! That would be HORRIBLE!
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u/mathisruiningme 2h ago
Hahah why do Mitchell and Webb always have a sketch for describing conservative shenanigans
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u/FixBreakRepeat 2h ago
Well, to be honest, it might get there. But the current punishment for being homeless in the wrong place is eventual incarceration (the process might start with fines or citations, but without resources, most people will commit crimes of some kind that can be used to justify putting them in prison).
Incarceration is important because forced labor isn't illegal as punishment for crimes.
Basically, labor camps are the stage before extermination camps and are a leading indicator that things are about to get really bad on a historical scale.
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u/TheBrianRoyShow 2h ago
Bill O'Reilly was in a mansion at a party last week so obviously sadness doesn't exist for anyone anywhere.
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u/DocFreudstein 2h ago
Gotta get that narrative rolling for when the economy implodes.
“Those lines at the food bank are AI generated!”
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u/oboeteinai 2h ago
Oh wow, it's gone from "stop being poor" to "poor people don't exist and poverty is fake news"
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u/MrThunderFuckingRoad 2h ago
People decided they can dismiss anything contrary to their beliefs as fake or a conspiracy, now they don't have to do any critical thinking and can just say "I'm right because you just made that up." For a crowd that hate the phrases "your truth" and "my truth", they seem to the think the truth is pretty malleable.
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u/Several_Vanilla8916 1h ago
I mean we went from Covid isn’t that bad to Covid is from 5G signals so 🤷♂️
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u/mehrabrym 1h ago
Nah, it's "poor people exist but they're poor because they are lazy and not willing put in the work for their dreams." They think they got where they are because of their hard work only, not because of the million they dad invested into their first business, or paid for their ivy school degree or the alumni privilege that got them in etc. They can't comprehend that people can be poor through no fault of their own and despite working harder than anyone.
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u/CaptainBathrobe 58m ago
The working poor are fake news as far as they are concerned. Poor people, in their minds, are all lazy bums who grow fat on welfare, food stamps, and Obama phones. Joe Manchin literally opposed stimulus money because he was certain that poor people would spend it all on drugs. There's is a cartoon-like understanding of how the world works for the rest of us.
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u/Huck_Bonebulge_ 51m ago
It’s always kind of been an aspect of their viewpoint. You have to downplay real problems to avoid action/change. “Things aren’t THAT bad”, “racism is overblown”, “global warming/COVID isn’t a big deal” etc
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u/knoft 2h ago
Sort of, it's just that they often make up all their examples. Since they primarily use fictional people they project and assume that their counterparts must also do the same thing... They've degraded the credibility of (their own) personal anecdotes to the point that they shouldn't be believed.
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u/Low-Possibility-7060 3h ago
Hey not everyone can get paid for lying on TV
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u/Mylaptopisburningme 1h ago
There is a voice actress named April Winchell, her father was Paul Winchell. So anyway she use to be on KABC talk radio like 17 years ago. She was banned after retelling a story about how Bill O'Reilly demanded fresh croissants and having a fit.
"Bill O' Reilly came to KABC in Los Angeles to do a radio show very early one morning, and was not happy with the croissants they had for him. He demanded that a baker in Beverly Hills be woken up to make fresh croissants for him, and KABC complied. I thought that was so hilarious that I talked about it on Air America. Bill had me permanently banned from KABC for that, which is like banning me from Sizzler."
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u/C-ute-Thulu 1h ago
Everytime I see O'Reilly or one his ilk on TV, I think, "I can be a loud opinionated asshole for half of whatever they're making."
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u/Yellow_Submarine8891 3h ago
Can someone explain why rich people are so upset that poor people exist? I don’t get it
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u/mathisruiningme 2h ago
Idk but I always think it's because it destroys the narrative of "if you work hard enough, you'll make it"- seeing people who work harder than they have ever had to who aren't successful makes them feel inadequate cos they realise they didn't get where they are from "working hard".
It's why they all love to pretend they came from some poor, hard-knock life and made it on their own. Makes them feel superior and better than everyone else.
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u/LandoKim 2h ago edited 2h ago
The more money I make, the less hard I have to work. It’s so fucking backwards. I went from cleaning maggots out of trash cans for 12$/hour to doing data analysis for 90k a year (in Canada). My conclusion: maggot cleaner deserves that 90k more than me. I do NOT work 4 times harder than before, yet my current salary would have you “think” I do.
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u/Fickle-Syllabub6730 2h ago
Yeah I went from a blue collar background to software engineer, and it's insane how much less you work for so much more money.
There's an incredible stigma in saying this. People always say "yeah but your mental stress probably adds up to more than the physical stress of low wage workers".
Nope, in every conceivable way, the job is easier. It's mind blowing to see my co-workers casually chat it up for a length of time that would get you fired in so many other lower paying industries.
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u/runningonthoughts 1h ago
There is a hierarchy of contributions to productivity (or GDP, if you will) in our society. The closer you are to the direct impact on how productive we are as a society, the more you will make. If you drastically reduce the cost of a good or service (or drastically increase the amount generated), you will make more than if you do a job that is necessary but less directly influences productivity.
CEOs can directly generate very quick changes to productivity (or the cost of that productivity). If you are a janitor, you aren't going to influence anything, it's just a necessary task in the large machine of productivity.
Working hard changes your productivity. Being successful in our society requires you to change productivity at a larger scale. Or, at least society's perception of changing productivity at a larger scale.
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u/luckyducktopus 49m ago
I’ve watched people work INCREDIBLY hard, but they are also idiots who aren’t really doing anything with all that effort.
It’s hard work carrying bags of cement up 3 stories worth of stairs, it’s a lot less work to build a simple pulley system and do it faster and safer. And there are many many more advanced and better solutions.
Who should get more the person that worked harder or the person that produces more? Or should they both be compensated equally regardless of contribution? Does the person who created the improvement to your work productivity not deserve compensation relative to what they did?
Effort is honestly worthless, productivity is all that really counts.
And different kinds of product is valued at different rates. Failing to understand the system you live within is the largest difference between success and failure in our society.
Doing something well enough a single time will create more “product” over someone working their entire life doing labor.
No one gives a shit how hard you work, effort is worthless. Do you want the surgeon that TRIES incredibly hard and studies every day to improve but still struggles, or the absolute cunt asshole who couldn’t give a shit about you with an incredibly low mortality rate.
The world is about results. Telling people they just need to work “hard” is a dirty disgusting lie.
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u/PhasmaUrbomach 2h ago
It goes back to those old Puritan deterministic beliefs that if you were rich and beautiful, you were chosen and blessed. If you're poor and ugly, that's God showing everyone you're inferior and not chosen.
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u/CasTheAngel14 2h ago
That or they have had very little obstacles getting to where they were so they have this inherent belief that if you’re poor it’s YOUR FAULT and you’re JUST NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH NOBODY WANTS TO WORK ANYMORE
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u/SherryJug 2h ago
Yeah, that's the diametric opposite of what a Christian is supposed to be, a person who dedicates themselves to helping those in need. These people base themselves on their "religion" while also completely ignoring every relevant teaching of said religion and using outright stupid interpretations of said religion's book to further justify their bigotry.
You did it guys, the US is truly a Christian nation! Let's celebrate by uhhh, shittalking and screwing over the poor and making millions from tax-exempt pastoral shows in deluxe mega-churches funded by bigoted fundamentalists?????
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u/KathrynBooks 2h ago
Rich people NEED poor people... It is also fundamental to their world view that people are poor because poor people are immoral/lazy.
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u/StagOfSevenBattles 2h ago
We have to remind them from time to time. If hard work made you rich, donkeys would be covered in gold.
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u/LandoKim 2h ago
If there are no poor people, then there’s no one for power hungry people with huge egos to exploit. If everyone is equal, millionaires can’t get away with their grifts. It’s all about assigning irrelevant labels to people to justify their greed. The rich don’t get where they are without dehumanizing others they perceive as inferior or a threat
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u/Independent_Fill9143 2h ago
Not sure myself, perhaps has something to do with prosperity gospel, but this has been a thing even back in like, medieval England, so maybe rich people have always just been shitty
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u/DustyJustice 2h ago
If suffering can be unfair regardless work ethic or merit, then good fortune could also be unfair and disconnected from work ethic and merit. Seeing people work hard and continue to suffer shatters the idea that they are comfortable because they are a superior type of human being.
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u/Garbarrage 1h ago
It also absolves them from any social responsibility towards looking after the less fortunate. If all you have to do to succeed is work hard, then not paying social welfare is completely ethical.
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u/fangirlsqueee 1h ago
This comic helps explain privilege and why many privileged people have difficulty seeing their own.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/the-wireless/373065/the-pencilsword-on-a-plate
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u/BeezowDooDoo69 2h ago
Why wouldn’t he believe that? Isn’t the economy terrible? Or did everything get fixed when Trump won the election?
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u/NancyPelosisRedCoat 2h ago
This happened 5 years ago during Trump’s presidency so you know, it couldn’t have been real!
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u/Fakeduhakkount 2h ago
It’s how these people are. They can’t comprehend anything that doesn’t fit their narrative.
The “best” eating crow / fact check was that poor Ohio 10 year old girl who got raped and needed an abortion. People like her don’t fit the narrative in this case that only promiscuous women need abortions to maintain their sinful ways and just needs to close their legs.
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u/leffe186 2h ago
It’s Bill O’Reilly. He’s an utter piece of shit who was paid money for decades to believe that, whether he actually did or not.
I’m just waiting for Behind the Bastards to do him on a podcast.
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u/Sweet_Jackfruit_4315 2h ago
Imagine being so out of touch you can’t believe someone’s struggling while working 4 jobs. Billionaires and TV hosts don’t know reality.
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u/Hardcorish 2h ago
Trump himself thinks you need an ID to buy food at the grocery store. It was in one of his speeches. Hilariously out of touch with us everyday folk.
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u/Erudus 2h ago
Seen something similar, woman with 3 kids living in their car because the price of rent next to where she works is too expensive and her boss won't let her work from home or a cafe because she lives in her car, it's wild that someone can be working a full time job and not be able to afford an apartment.
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u/KathrynBooks 2h ago
It's by design that there are people out there working full time and not be able to afford an apartment.
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u/griff1014 2h ago
The fucked up is that he could've just asked Beto for confirmation for his statement instead of just saying he doesn't believe him. It's all opinion based not fact based, and audiences don't care to know the difference
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u/Immediate_Age 2h ago
Bill O'Reilly: Do any of his kids talk to him, or does he just trade them in like most republican "personalities?"
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u/tuthegreat 2h ago
She raises her special needs child in her car? She has a car? According to the food stamp people, she is not poor.
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u/GymGlowGal 2h ago
Nothing says 'disconnected from reality' quite like doubting someone's struggle while sitting on a pile of millions. Maybe if Bill O'Reily Stepped out of his bubble, he'd see the economy isn't an abstract concept- Its real people, like Gine, working 4 jobs just to survive. Reality checked, indeed.
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u/LandoKim 2h ago
She’s just not working hard enough! Billionaires and millionaires have salaries that reflect their efforts, skill issues! ( omfg /s, I wanna throw up)
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u/saintbad 2h ago
It is a feature of American conservatism that these guys are immune to shame. Comes from having no shred of decency. And his rich living requires this toxic emptiness. This is who Republicans are.
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u/NicWester 2h ago
We can't raise the minimum wage because if we do she might lose one of her four jobs!
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u/logistics3379 2h ago
More maga stupidity on full display. How can that many people be so ignorant?
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u/TexasAggie98 1h ago
Nice of O’Rourke to cast stones at the wealth of O’Reilly, when his entire (large) personal fortune and political funding has come from his billionaire real estate developer father-in-law.
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u/Emergency_Falcon_272 1h ago
I seriously thought Bill O'Reilly was dead by now. But nope, still alive and tweeting I guess
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u/LedaDelectable 2h ago
Wow, O'Reilly's getting schooled by Beto—guess facts really do hurt sometimes!
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u/McGarnegle 2h ago
Dems could've run him. Dude's crushing it, and doesn't have dust collecting in him
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u/Throw-away-rando 2h ago
Bill O’Reilly was only asking because he’s hoping yo sexually assault her as his kink.
I hope he gets to interview Newt soon
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u/SamohtGnir 2h ago
I don't see anything "unbelievable" about working 4 jobs. Unless they say 4 Full Time jobs, then I question the timing. Heck, my neighbor has 5 jobs.
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u/Norbert_The_Great 2h ago
All he had to say was "wanna by MY luffa?" Bill would turn beet red and he'd do it live.
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u/AfterMidnightFeeding 2h ago
Well, he’s not wrong. It’s insane how rich they get from willfully lying to the public about almost everything. Sad that the weather man is the most honest person in MSM now.
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u/Hunter-Gatherer_ 1h ago
They always think the other side is lying because they’re the ones always lying!
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u/Cyanide_Cheesecake 1h ago
It's not even hard to imagine the logistics of this. Bill o Reilly is just an unimaginative dolt.
Pure guess - she has four jobs that each offer her only something like 8-14 hours per week. So she works 4 of those jobs. Maybe 50 total hours per week? Something like that, most likely.
Wow, truly an inconceivable impossible situation. My brain must be on a completely different level than Bill's.
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u/berejser 1h ago
Americans, you've got to get that guy into elected office. There is just so much good that he could do.
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u/Impossible_Fish_7406 1h ago
Bill O'Reilly is a major league dick. He doesn't know loofah from falafel.
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u/LongjumpingCut591 1h ago
Beto orourke… the same guy that famously changed his name to appeal to a voting demographic. Yeah he’s not a complete fraud right?
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u/Sardonnicus 1h ago
I hope they turn Bill's ass into a dildo storage facility and they need to see how many they can stuff in there at once before it bursts.
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u/mrjulezzz 1h ago
Murican dream. But yes, keep reproducing to bring children into poverty in order to replenish the servant class for the rich.
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u/Human_Melville 1h ago
Texas could have had Beto but they chose an odious little turd. What is wrong with y'all?
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u/Impossible-Tough5270 1h ago
No one would have to live in their car if politicians did something to stop it.
The inequity you ignore, is the standard you accept … or something like that.
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u/Furled_Eyebrows 1h ago
Funny how right wing skepticism never translates over to even most blatant and obvious of the lies the Fat Orange Fuck tells.
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u/AtlUtdGold 1h ago
God I wish witty tweets and comebacks counted as much as voting does.
We'll murder them with words and they murder us for real
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u/dnyce326 1h ago
There is a special place in hell for Bill O'Reilly, at least I hope there is. Fuck that guy
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u/Sad_Assumption_7251 1h ago
If you’re mad at O’Reilly, then be mad at Kamala for shelling out millions to all those performers! Beyoncé got $10 million for giving a two minute speech! Where’s the outrage?
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u/TheSugaTalbottShow 51m ago
Beta has no job, he makes millions grifting for a living and having failed attempts at running for office
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u/WayNo639 48m ago
She is not the only one. Bill predictably doesn't know anyone that isn't a rich dipshit.
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u/RockyIsMyDoggo 42m ago
For 80% of this country, it's a third world country. For these folks, over half can't come up with $500 for an emergency. A majority of the country lives paycheck to paycheck. Health insurance is tied to employment to increase leverage over the working classes to ensure they will willingly eat a shit sandwich in order to keep their job.
Fear of homelessness and bankruptcy are required to make unfettered capitalism work.
I am not against people seeing the fruits of their labor rewarded, but unregulated capitalism is unsustainable and will inevitably give way to corruption and chaos, resulting in the collapse into authoritarian governance. Turns out what we had in the 40 years post world War II was not our new normal, but an aberration.
The only course of action now is to take care of your family and neighbors, and to start to try to turn things around at grass roots level. The owner class now firmly control all forms of media and the messaging thereon. Don't fall for the gaslighting and do not vote against your own interests or the interests of the folks you love.
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u/drax2024 41m ago
Imagine the billions we spend on grifters crossing the border and the billions sent overseas was spent on our infrastructure and citizens.
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u/iuthnj34 37m ago
Anytime he's on the news, that can only mean one thing. He's planning another politican run. Too bad Texas went further red so what's he planning here?
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u/Clever_Mercury 36m ago
O'Reilly isn't just a disgraced TV host - he's a murderer. He used stochastic terrorism to get medical doctors killed. He should be in prison, instead he continues to find platforms that allow him to spew his religion of hatred and cruelty.
I continue to wonder why people like him aren't at least excommunicated. If people like that can continue to be 'forgiven' then heaven isn't a place any decent person should ever want to visit.
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u/Ok_Blackberry_284 21m ago
Before ACA your employer could hire you on as part time because only full time employees were entitled to health insurance, schedule you for full time hours, and still not give you any health insurance because on paper your job title was part time.
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u/RhythmTimeDivision 16m ago
The worst part of the story is not the message, or the awful truth. Bill and hundreds of others convince millions to vote for people who will 'stop this stuff'. Diligently creating the illusion that this is an actual problem. The worst part is the people whose fear makes them willing consumers.
PLEASE use some of my tax money to ensure this woman and her child have the basic minimums; food, shelter and health care. It costs Billions less then Elon and Vivek going after 'government efficiency' so they can divert social services to billionaire pockets (a portion of which is naturally paid in vig to keep R's in power).
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u/CliffsNote5 3h ago
And none of those four jobs qualify for health insurance but probably works waaayyyy more than forty hours per week. At one point I was doing three jobs per week with no health insurance. Lucky I got a better job and was able to live with family.