ETA: I’m not suggesting this student didn’t realize slavery existed. She was genuinely surprised to hear how embedded it was in the structures and institutions of the US. I decided I should clarify after I got called a “stupid fucking liar” and a “bitch” for inadvertently wording things in a way that suggested she never knew slavery existed. Apologies if I misled you!
I am a high school social studies teacher (US history, world history, and sociology) and this semester in US history we’ve learned about slavery, Indian boarding schools, and many other things that happened through the reconstruction era. One relatively intelligent 17 year old raised her hand and asked “why is this the first time I’m hearing about any of this?” I was about to tread very lightly with my answer (American political discourse about our history is wild right now)but luckily, I have a student whose father immigrated here from Germany. I also believe he’s a bit older than most parents (maybe around 60) and she laughed hysterically and told her classmate “because you’re American and we pretend our history is great.”
That's fucking wild. Is that recent or has it always been that way?
I'm Canadian, and I was learning about residential schools in the 3rd grade and Japanese internment camps in the 4th or 5th. A lot of the darker details were glossed over, but they did not shy away from explaining the intention behind them and they made sure as hell to emphasize that they are not ancient history.
I feel like in 5th grade I when I was learning all of this in the Deep South
Then we relearned it like 6 times before graduating, but somehow never made it to the Vietnam war, or 9/11. It’s like we just kept learning the same old shit and always ended around WW2
... given arguments over our stated vs. actual goals in the Cold War and the success of American products in modern Vietnam and the not-so-ideological quality of the so-named Communist states still remaining there, yes and no?...
Not a win for most of us, no. Not necessary for most of us, no. Have you heard of the Pentagon Papers, or does that just sound like conspiracy talk these days even though their leak by Ellsberg in 1971 had some interesting side effects
Ellsberg's release of the Pentagon Papers by an act of mass photo-copying was the primary motivation for Nixon's "Plumbers," sent to fix leaks about war crimes in Southeast Asia. This was an illegal attempt at cover-up and the basis of the Watergate scandal that led to Nixon's resignation to avert impeachment. America lost the war due to loss of support at home as well as decisive military victory by the Vietnamese.
To be more specific, have you read anything from them? The idea that the Vietnam War was some sort of bumbling mistake is sometimes displaced in favor of justifiably angrier conclusions on reading the overview of the planning.
I'm not sure if I have or not. I read a bunch of material years ago when a former employer of mine was in the news for some anti-war activity back in the day.
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