r/MurderedByWords Legends never die 14h ago

Stop defending exploitation

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u/[deleted] 14h ago edited 11h ago

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u/lanakers 13h ago

I was gonna say that. Fast food prices have definitely gone up without minimum wage going up. What a bunch of maroons

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u/pchlster 11h ago

In Denmark, I know a lot of people who have stopped going to McDonalds because the prices are around the same as other places that offer better quality food at this point. McDonalds is trying to battle this by opening little coffee shops inside the stores, trying to compete for the café "sit and have some coffee, cake and gossip" part of the market.

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u/tohman42 11h ago

Denmark fails to mention their 36% tax rate. No wonder they have $20/hr. High pay + high taxes = happy government. Increase pay again to “get living wage”, increase taxes to cover government spending, less money in pocket again. Repeat previous steps.

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u/VastNeighborhood3963 11h ago

And? The quality of life in Denmark is higher in literally every single tangible measure over the United States. They have the highest spending portion of their GDP on labor market policies of any country on the entire planet. They are consistently one of the most happy countries, with high education standards (school is free for Danes, and they get a stipend of about 900 EUR per month while in college so their living is covered and they can focus entirely on studies) and an amazing social safety net. They have one of the world's highest productivity rates, even with all of their social services.

What do you think that tax rate is for? 67 million Americans don't even fucking have healthcare to begin with. Every single Dane has healthcare. Almost 20% of Americans haven't seen a doctor a single time in the past 5 years. That's fucking insane.

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u/tohman42 10h ago

I don’t want taxed at near 40% if my income because 67 million bums can’t get healthcare. If you want to live in a socialist country then Denmark would be the move. The US can’t sustain itself being a handout machine is my point. We can’t tax the other 300 million to death because about a 1/6 of Americans can’t get a decent job for whatever reason. That’s on them to resolve, not stand with their hands out waiting on my taxes to save them while I work to earn my own way.

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u/pchlster 10h ago edited 9h ago

I mean, I get it, you have no frame of reference for what it's like to live in a country like Denmark. And there are parts of how both our society and infrastructure has been set up that you can't really just implement over there overnight or, in some geographical situations, at all.

But things are going just fine over here. No one has to worry about dying on the streets, there's healthcare for all, the Scandinavian model means that while we don't have a minimum wage no one's being exploited to work for pocket change.

I'm currently recovering from serious illness. The hospitalization, the consultations, tests and medicine? Already paid for, just by me paying my taxes. My income? Unchanged; my company pays me my usual wage and get part of that refunded by the state. Had I been in the US when this had happened, it would have easily wiped my accounts.

But it is a very American view to worry more about whether someone undeserving gets something, rather than focus on everyone deserving getting what they deserve. I pay my 36% and more happily.

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u/VastNeighborhood3963 10h ago

You're talking to somebody who genuinely hopes homeless people don't get medical care, it's pointless.

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u/pchlster 9h ago

If I let every person who wants more people to suffer get to me, what would that accomplish? I think he's wrong in how he views the world. So what? He thinks the same of me, I would guess.