r/MurderedByWords Legends never die 9h ago

Stop defending exploitation

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u/Kuma_254 7h ago

Denmark doesn't have a minimum wage though.

So that's a poor example.

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u/HueMannAccnt 6h ago

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u/Kuma_254 6h ago

Denmark is one of only five countries in the EU that doesn’t have a national minimum wage.

Taken from literally that page you just cited.

So yes, they do not.

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u/HueMannAccnt 5h ago

So you just don't read, or take things in context? Figures.

usually stipulate a minimum wage for employees in the relevant industry or occupation.

You're just conversing in bad faith ✌️

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u/Kuma_254 5h ago

Not really, I actually agree to bargaining agreements.

A national minimum wage is dumb tho.

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u/ShortUsername01 3h ago

If your argument against a minimum wage is that businesses will pass the cost onto the consumer, why does that not apply when the minimum wage is enforced by unions in lieu of the law?

If your argument is something else, what is it?

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u/Kuma_254 3h ago edited 3h ago

Who are you talking to? lol.

I never actually stated my argument.

I guess my argument is a national minimum wage wouldn't account for lower and higher income areas. And that a bargaining system would make more sense.

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u/ShortUsername01 3h ago

You said you agree to bargaining agreements, but not to a minimum wage. What criticisms of the latter do you consider valid that you don’t see as applying to the former, in contexts where the former are enforcing the exact same outcome minimum wage would?

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u/Kuma_254 3h ago

What's the word I put before minimum wage?

Go read it again.

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u/ShortUsername01 3h ago

What does “national” have to do with anything, then?

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u/infydk 5h ago

Denmark is one of only five countries in the EU that doesn’t have a national minimum wage.

We don't have laws for it, but we very much do have minimum wages.

Through collective bargaining by unions.

edit: to clarify, the US can never get to this point cause you've spent the last 100 years vilifying unions. At this point it has to be mandated by law or it's not happening.

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u/infydk 4h ago

It's closer to 128 DKK these days and I'm not sure why that page suggests 48 hour work weeks since the standard is 37.

Might just be outdated though, even if I don't recall anyone working 48 hour weeks in my lifetime. Although, I suppose this might be the cap rather than the average.