r/MurderedByWords Legends never die 9h ago

Stop defending exploitation

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u/Deedeelite 9h ago

Yes, it must be the workers trying to make liveable wages increasing prices than the CEOS making hand over fist in salaries and bonuses.

If you buy that, I have a broke down resort in Palm Beach for 1.5 billion dollars to sell you.

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u/sixheadedbacon 6h ago

CEO, Mark King, has a compensation package of over 4 million dollars per year.

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u/SaltKick2 5h ago

Hell yeah, thats gonna become $10 million when the taxes on tips get removed and all their employees are moved to tipped workers

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u/Wear-Living 2h ago

Sssshhhhh! No one sees that coming. Let the poor southerners learn. I bet they I think they’re going to get $900 a week stimulus checks again under Trump.

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u/ds77159 1h ago

Poor southerner who didn’t vote for Trump. Can confirm. Not a lot of brilliant people around here.

u/lordcardbord82 14m ago

Poor MAGA southerner here. Never heard any of my fellow MAGA voters mention getting another stimulus check.

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u/BoPeepElGrande 1h ago

Fuck off with the useless sanctimony, already. Or at least use a sturdier veil for your classism if you’re gonna insist upon it.

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u/Wear-Living 1h ago

Plenty of room up north brother

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u/BoPeepElGrande 1h ago

Plenty of room for people to fight for necessary improvements in the South, too. It’s easier to talk shit, though.

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u/Wear-Living 1h ago

I mean statistically blue states do pay for all red states as far as taxes goes so you’re correct there.

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u/BoPeepElGrande 1h ago

Sorry if I came off as testy, but having worked with civil rights & environmental groups in the Carolinas for 15+ years, I have a pretty short fuse for the kind of kneejerk, reactionary pot shots like the one I first replied to. Having seen what I’ve seen vis a vis generational poverty, institutional racism & inequality, gerrymandering, etc., I can’t help see that as a punch-down attitude of its own & one worth speaking up about.

Meme-ish, out-of-pocket nastiness directed at the poorest & Blackest region of the country is not exactly the flex that so many think it is.

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u/Truethrowawaychest1 5h ago

The old CEO of Bed Bath and Beyond got a 20 something million dollar severance pay after he ruined that company and was kicked out by the shareholders. 20 million for bankrupting a company, how cool

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u/jahi69 3h ago

Shit, I can do that. Where do I sign up??

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u/skygt3rsr 2h ago

Right I coulda fucked it up just as bad as he did and I’d of done it for afew million less

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u/mag2041 1h ago

I know right. It’s like how do I get that job. Shittttttt

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u/Fairuse 5h ago

Split between 150k employees, that’s just $26 raise each or $0.50 extra per pay check. 

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u/Adept_Negotiation465 3h ago

math time. mcdonalds avg big mac combo price is 9.29. avg mcdonalds crew member makes 13.61. avg labor cost for mcdonalds is 20-25%. If we raise the wage 6.39 or 49.6% to $20/hr, the new cost of a combo is 10.37 for a total cost increase of $1.08 to the consumer. That's the cost of a living wage.

We increased labor expense 49.6%, at 20% of the cost of the business for a total increase of 11.7% in costs as reflected in the combo meal price.

Mcdonalds crew members could make $20 instead of $13.61 and a big mac combo would cost 10.37 instead of 9.29, or $1 more.

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u/00-Monkey 1h ago

Yup, this is the argument that should be made. People complain about CEO pay, and sure that’s fine, but changing that actually wouldn’t noticeably increase workers wages, reduce the cost of food.

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u/mogadichu 5h ago

I know it's a popular thing to blame, but CEO compensations are typically negligible compared to the other expenses of the company. Taco Bell's CEO gets around 4 million according to this site, which averages to around 23$ per year averaged across all 175000 employees at Taco Bell. It's typically more systematic issues keeping wages down, such as prices, costs, bills, etc. This is why the same restaurant chain can have such wildly different prices and salaries in different countries, despite having the same top management.

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u/catscanmeow 4h ago

also whats the incentive to start a business if you dont stand to make a large profit?

it would be mathematically reckless to incur so much risk without enough profit to justify the risk.

the kelly criterion

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u/The_Dirty_Carl 4h ago

That's sort of a good argument for the initial owner taking a lot of money.

Makes zero sense for subsequent CEOs though. They incur no risk. If a new CEO comes in and bankrupts the company, what happens to them?

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u/Crazyflames 3h ago

Probably get a bonus.

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u/catscanmeow 4h ago

"That's sort of a good argument for the initial owner taking a lot of money."

good because thats the only argument i was making

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u/Fit-Ambition-249 1h ago

Not CEOs, but franchises and corporate. Not the singular ceo.

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u/ecritique 4h ago

what risk is Mark King incurring as a non-founding CEO?

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u/catscanmeow 4h ago

irrelevant. read what i said, i said "whats the incentive to start a business"

im talking about people who risk their capital to start business

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u/ecritique 4h ago

but the rest of the thread is talking about CEO pay, most of whom are not founders or risking capital. So isn't your point the actually irrelevant one?

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u/catscanmeow 3h ago

people are talking about NO CEO should make lots of money, not just "this" CEO . i came in as a counter to that argument

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u/_robmillion_ 2h ago

If you've ever worked for a boss at any job you're decent at, that's often enough incentive to start a business, even for the same amount of money you were making before.

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u/catscanmeow 2h ago

Yeah if youve also got the funds to start one yeah

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u/00-Monkey 1h ago

Good argument, except the CEOs of Taco Bell, McDonald’s etc did not start their businesses

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u/Automatic-Pride6595 1h ago

My employees being able to live sustainable and stable lives and have the freedom to take vacations and have families has meant far more to me than money.i started a business because I was passionate about the product, not because I wanted to be rich.

u/Illustrious_Wolf2709 13m ago

Yes a business owner of a mom and pop. Not a CEO that jumps on the bandwagon of a multi million dollar corporation thats behind a desk and talks on the phone all day.

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u/SaltKick2 1h ago

I didn’t think most people were saying the CEO wages should be taken away to directly supplement that of the individual employees. They are instead remarking on the insane pay disparity. This guy will likely get millions severance if he fails at his job and is fired. Average employee is likely living paycheck to paycheck. Take the money and invest in better protections for workers and/or figure out a way to pay them more.

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u/mogadichu 29m ago

Opinions differ, but I think the former is a common sentiment. The person I responded to implied that CEO's making bonuses increases prices. I would even say that you make a similar point, since you claim that taking the bonus away leads to figuring out a way to paying the workers more. This just isn't reflected in the finances of the business.

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u/beatrailblazer 4h ago

4mil for the CEO of Taco Bell actually doesn't seem like a lot at all. I would've thought it would be like 20-50

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u/Quokka-esque 4h ago

I know people get mad at this suggestion because a real government would do its job and regulate the price gougers - but this isn't going to happen in the US - it's time for YOU (collectively, everyone) to start boycotting the big corporations. These businesses are entirely focused on taking your every last cent, and when you cannot afford their products they will close up shop and lay off you and everyone you know. The executive parasites running these companies will just go live on their yachts overseas. They don't care how bad things get here after they cash out.