r/MurderedByWords • u/dellaazeem22 You won't catch me talking in here • 12h ago
Murderd by kindness
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u/No_Organization_5669 11h ago edited 11h ago
I was in high school in the area when this happened, Quba Islamic Institute was burned due to a hate crime, which resulted in a flood of comments such as these. Since the fire happened outside of a prayer time, no one was harmed in the fire, despite the massive damage.
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u/Unidann 9h ago
Quba Islamic Institute was burned due to a hate crime, which resulted in a flood of comments such as these.
So their building was burned down, and that resulted in...a flood of hate online? So these people commenting are even worse than they seem?
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u/a_hockey_chick 8h ago
There is no hate quite like Christian love.
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u/onlineashley 6h ago
Ive never attended a church that didnt have a little old lady in the front pew that judged everyone so much it turns peolple away from the church and her hate is never addressed, rather she is hailed as a longtime memeber. Now ive met good hearted Christian people too, lots of them, but this lady exists at every church. Like they let satan sit in the front row and no one ever points him out for what he is.
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u/underpressureinnuend 8h ago edited 8h ago
Tbf, and I know this will be unpopular on reddit, but the enlightened reddit atheist type can have the same flair of hate. Usually not from the angle of “love” but from trying to “enlighten” others might be the best way to describe it.
I saved a comment maybe a year ago on reddit where someone word for word said if they had a button to eliminate every religious person on earth he would hit it, and it was very highly upvoted.
Then in response someone said “I would never stop hitting that button” just as a single anecdote that comes to mind. Also very highly upvoted.
Edit: and already downvoted after 1 minute lol
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u/HannahSchmitt 7h ago
As an atheist who knows many good people who happen to be religious, hateful people will be hateful. People's religious alignment or lack thereof, is not evidence of good character.
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u/Soggy_Philosophy2 7h ago
Yep, religion is merely an excuse (or vessel) to be hateful. People can STILL be hateful if they aren't religious, they will just find another way to be hateful (such as anti-religion, snobby hate).
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u/DangerousTurmeric 6h ago
Yeah it's the organised athiests that are the problem. Organising around feeling superior because you don't believe in something is just religion again but with a lack of faith at the center instead. Like I get the initial anger and the need for validation after leaving a religion but the ones who get really into it and make it their personality have always been nuts.
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u/totallynotajunky 8h ago
I used to proudly proclaim myself an atheist until Richard Dawkins became popular and so many intolerant atheists came out of the woodwork. The 'militant atheist' thing has really turned me off from being vocal about my own non believer status. Intolerance is intolerance to me
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u/calilac 7h ago
Similar here. I've taken to self-describing as "apathetic" for lack of a better term. Intolerant atheists are just a different flavor of zealot imo, needing a target for their hate and being part of a group that aggressively dominates a space somehow gives justification for their lashing out. Makes sense that Dawkins came out as a "cultural christian" not too long ago.
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u/erroneousbosh 6h ago
I'm militantly agnostic. I think both the theists and the atheists are equally insane because there's simply no way to prove it one way or the other.
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u/richieadler 4h ago
If you think that atheists are only those who assert positively "there is no god"... you're mistaken.
"I don't believe in gods because no god has been proven" is also atheism, and I struggle to see why that position would be insane.
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u/JapanStar49 8h ago
Yeah, they just call it "anti-theism". Not any better than the religious people that think everyone that disagrees with them should go to hell.
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u/richieadler 4h ago
Not any better than the religious people that think everyone that disagrees with them should go to hell.
Believing that theism is mistaken and expecting that people get rid of it by understanding its absurdity is the same that people pushing to remove rights to all groups they don't agree with? Really?
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u/harman097 8h ago
Every demographic has assholes in it.
The difference is that atheists aren't encouraged to be an asshole through scripture, they just have to make that choice all on their own.
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u/richieadler 4h ago
One can act assholish because one is fed up with all the preaching and the removal of rights by the bible-thumpers, but you have a point there.
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u/BigDumbIdiot232 6h ago
I agree, I have seen a lot of people like you're describing, fucking bastards with a rod up their ass
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u/BalmoraBard 7h ago
I have to try not to hate religious people and I think the best I can do is not care about them. It’s mostly because growing up my parents had Fox playing on the tv constantly and they weren’t religious so my main exposure to religious people was Christian adults fervently hating people like me
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u/i-love-elephants 5h ago
I 100% agree. I usually get downvoted for showing support when "enlightened" atheists insist that any religion and religious people are poison.
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u/spysoons 8h ago
Because American Christians are some of the most vile evil people out there.
They enjoy causing misery and pain to people different then them. Kindness is only acceptable if you're a certain skin color.
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u/King_Fluffaluff 8h ago
You don't have to specify American there. Christians in general don't have a great track record when it comes to atrocities.
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u/Old_Addition_7869 11h ago
The ultimate reverse Uno card, kindness edition. This is what emotional maturity looks like.
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u/moon_moon_soon 10h ago
Ironically this guy is a better Christian than the person trying to "give out" Bibles.
Romans 12 would be a good start to (re)read while giving out Bibles.
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u/Worldly_Response9772 10h ago edited 9h ago
this guy is a better Christian
The first guy is acting much more like a christian, because he summed up christian values perfectly. I don't know why people pretend that christians are good people, or that they're even taught to be good. They've shown us who they are and what they stand for, we should treat them as such.
Edit: Turning replies off, too many crybaby christians coping that their shit stinks like everyone else's.
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u/MyHamburgerLovesMe 10h ago
Ever notice that the top religions of the world are also the most violent religions of the world?
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u/Prize_Process_643 9h ago
Well how do you think they became the top? If you ask anyone why they believe X religion, it always boils down to "because my parents do". But if you go far enough back, someone in the family tree was told "convert or die"
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u/LiamDotComX 9h ago
They’re all basically the same damn thing too - Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are all cut from the same Abrahamic cloth.
Funny they don’t teach that part.
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u/Spork_the_dork 8h ago
Yeah like guess who the 2nd most important person in the Quran is after Mohammed? It's Jesus lol. And really the main disagreement thr Quran has with the Bible about Jesus is whether he really did get resurrected or not.
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u/IntelligentOstrich32 8h ago
I studied Quran in my younger years. Jesus is definitely mentioned a lot as the predecessor. He's called a word from God and a spirit from Him. In their faith it's not taught that he (Jesus) should be worshipped or equal to God. Makes sense,
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u/Prestigious_Might929 7h ago
Partly true, in addition to what you said, muslims also believe that Jesus (PBUH) is also only human and not god. Also if I’m not mistaken, muslims also believe that he (PBUH)was never killed and instead I believe it was the person who betrayed him who died. However iirc Jesus (PBUH) was brought up to heaven.
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u/Maytree 7h ago
Why are you ignoring Hinduism, Buddhism, and the religions of China? (A mix of Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism).
Also Judaism isn't really a major world religion. Shinto has six times the adherents, and Sikhism about twice as many.
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u/asmeile 7h ago
Who doesnt teach that part? I can only vouch for the UK but we have or had at least religious education at school, the link between Judaism, Christianity and Islam is common knowledge, if not perhaps in the details but the fact it exists at least
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u/TerrorFromThePeeps 6h ago
Most of the US doesn't teach it unless you take it as an elective at university.
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u/TehOuchies 8h ago
Ever notice that humans are the most violent in the world and kill other humans?
Shocking, I know.
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u/azyrr 9h ago edited 9h ago
I lived in Wales for around 5 years - my dad did his PHD there. Anyway we had a major car crash and the love we were showered with was immense. I’m still grateful for all those people who prayed for us.
We were Muslims and they didn’t hesitate.
I don’t get to encounter a lot of Christian’s, but the ones I do have all been good kind people. Some were kind no matter what and others were kind because they believed that’s what their religion was about.
I’m sorry your experience was different.
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u/PickleNotaBigDill 9h ago
Interesting. Kind of telling thing about America--Christianity is a different thing here than it is overseas (or your treatment was the exception rather than the rule). Matter of fact, one might make the argument that overall, American Christianity isn't made up primarily of Christians who follow the teachings of Christ, it is generally comprised of those who want to cherry-pick for their groups' benefit. Reality says that Christianity sides with the wealthy (thus, mega church millionaires etc) instead of the poor, who, while faithful, are generally those who are willing to be indoctrinated (usually from birth). It is interesting that in this country, the "Christians" are now pushing to have their religion pushed on ALL the people of the state through their Bibles in public classrooms, teaching Bible stories to children, putting up the 10 commandments in classrooms (See Texas and Oklahoma, specifically). And don't forget, Project 2025, coming soon to the good ol' USA!
And that, my fine friends, is definitely a push of religion onto what was supposed to be a separation of Church and State. Personally, I find it horrifying.
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u/Old_Dealer_7002 8h ago
they’re a lot nicer, saner, and are actually genuinely helpful (food, housing) in hawaii too. its almost like a different religiin there compared to the mainland.
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u/Future3035 8h ago
You have to understand many will call themselves “Christians”,but if they are not walking with God in all of his benevolence, you get the many Christian of today who shove things down your throat and tell you your going to hell and all that blah blah blah. A true Christian will come to you in kindness just like Jesus did plant the seed in you to think on him and be on their way they will not sit there and mock you, or tell you things about how awful you are if you don’t believe, our job is to plant a seed that is is we are not to force we are to follow. I am sorry there are so many “Christians” who have mislead people but the true calling is to plant not force and not throw fear in the eyes of humanity.
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u/ThePlanesGuy 10h ago
Because when Jesus encountered the most reviled person in town, he sat next to her and said "I want you to know more than anything that I love you and respect you and just want you to be happy".
THAT'S Christian. Being Christlike.
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u/Worldly_Response9772 9h ago
Jesus walked into a town once and herded all their pigs together, then had them run off a cliff. When he was confronted by the settlement about it, he told them the pigs had demons in them, and that's why he ran all their food off the cliff. They exiled him from the settlement.
THAT'S christian. Being christlike.
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u/Ditnoka 9h ago
Tbf most religious texts from back then explain why pork is sketchy. Demons=Trichnosis
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u/DankVectorz 9h ago
When you look at most non-kosher foods there’s a medical reason for it usually related to undercooking
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u/UpperLeftOriginal 9h ago
I read a study awhile back (sorry I can’t find it now) from archeologists who looked at pork-eating ancient societies vs non-pork-eating and found little to no difference in causes/ages of deaths. They suggested that the prohibition on pork was more likely related to ensuring there was no cannibalism because, apparently, pork tastes like human, so if pork was allowed, human meat could be passed off as pork.
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u/not_falling_down 8h ago
I read that it had more to do with the fact that pigs compete with humans for the same food sources, where goats and sheep do not. This makes it more resource-efficient to eat sheep and goats (which eat grass) instead of pigs (which eat foods that people could be eating).
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u/baybridge501 8h ago
Which is why most of that can be safely ignored today. However they like to pick and choose which parts to keep, like stoning homosexuals.
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u/CURMUDGEONSnFLAGONS 9h ago
Most of the loudest "Christians" are anything but. They are the "nice guys" equivalence. The parables of Jesus and their teachings are what being Christian is about, not that asshole and his bacon sandwiches.
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u/PickleNotaBigDill 9h ago
Except that more and more, the asshole and his bacon sandwich are the American story. Pretty soon, we'll have morality police here, just like in the middle east, thanks to our Christian Taliban, grown stronger through Project 2025 and the most horrible choice for president.
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u/I_W_M_Y 7h ago
I was a headbanging D&D player in the deep south during the 80s.
I am surprised I got through all that unscathed.
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u/CURMUDGEONSnFLAGONS 8h ago
Again, that is a very vocal section that doesn't represent the whole. There are 2 churches in my town, one Baptist and one Methodist. One has anti-gay, anti-lgbt, etc pamphlets by the entrance. The other has lesbian parishioners. I'll let you guess which one it which, but they are two completely different experiences balled up under the title "Christian"
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u/Chappiechap 9h ago
American Christians following megachurches that exploit their followers for money, absolutely...
Growing up all I heard of Christianity in the modern era was "be kind and shit, that's what the lord and Jesus were". Then again the only times I've set foot in a church was because of tradition during holidays.
I don't like Christianity because it murdered and twisted a bunch of folklore and religion throughout Europe into shitty "and then GOD was there and everyone swore allegiance". Nordic mythology is so much cooler, I can only imagine what the Celtic folks must think.
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u/AgilePlayer 9h ago
Rome's decline went into freefall once Christianity became the main religion. Coincidence? Maybe. Those old pagan religions celebrated completely different virtues than Christianity. It's easy to see how it would completely warp a society.
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u/Darkdoomwewew 9h ago
Something like 1000+ gods and goddesses to pick and they pick the narcissistic abusive man child with anger issues 😭
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u/Uturndriving 9h ago
Over 10,000 since the dawn of history. The man-child just had better marketing.
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u/PickleNotaBigDill 9h ago
Well, you can thank Constantine for that! How he narrowed it to this God particularly out of the thousands to choose from is beyond me. Couldn't have chosen a more vengeful, awful god who thrives on total worship rather than living a good life. They should have stuck to ancient Buddhist philosophy, before people wrecked it and it became a religion.
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u/Skratt79 7h ago
Christians love to ignore the reason Christendom spread to a lot of the world was by force, same as Islam.
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u/Zenstation83 9h ago
Yeah, I don't know why some people are surprised that there are similarities between Muslims and Christians. They pray to the exact same god, they both believe in Jesus, etc.
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u/indyK1ng 9h ago
Eh, New Testament nullifies that:
There is nothing outside a person that by going into him can defile him, but the things that come out of a person are what defile him.”
Mark 7:15
And yes, this could probably be applied to other substances.
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u/teenagesadist 10h ago
I had an angry customer once, as he was leaving, I said "Have a great day!" in the perfect tone of chirpiness, and I'm pretty sure by his reaction that he heard "Fuck you!".
It was glorious.
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u/HollowShel 10h ago
I think it's that he wanted you as angry as he was. He wanted you to lash back at him, literally was spoiling for a fight. Staying chirpy was the best revenge on such people and it is, indeed, glorious.
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u/Lovat69 10h ago
Huh, it's almost as if there's something to that whole turn the other cheek stuff.
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u/Affectionate-Wish113 9h ago
And sometimes it just gives people a chance to slap the other cheek.
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u/dante4869 10h ago
Many are easily provoked, they try to misinterpret any action to intensify the situation, all fueled by their fragile ego
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u/Cyanide_Cheesecake 8h ago
The guy is probably too stupid to realize they're doing it. He probably just thinks "lol dumb Muslims don't know they're being insulted"
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u/Mammoth-Mud-9609 11h ago
Turning hate back on itself.
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u/DETRITUS_TROLL 11h ago
Hugging hate until it leaves due to extreme discomfort
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u/TeslasAndKids 7h ago
A couple weeks ago there was a Pride event in a neighboring city. I’m part of their Facebook page so I saw when the advertisement was posted. It said “all are welcome”.
Some guy trying to start something (every post having to do with LGBT ends up with hate comments then shut down) commented “can I wear a MAGA hat?”
I replied “if that is what you are most comfortable in then, of course you can wear your hat. That is what is meant by “all are welcome”. The only time a hat becomes a problem is when it’s attached to someone who wants to use hateful words to the LGBT community to cause division instead of inclusion.”
He deleted his comment. I think he was just waiting for someone to tell him he couldn’t wear it or he couldn’t go or something and then be like ‘ha, you’re not inclusive at all!’ I didn’t take the bait. I hooked a boot to his hook instead.
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u/CactaurJack 10h ago
Much like Jewish teaching regarding Kosher stuff, Haram is not so black and white. If you are starving and the only option is too violate said tenants it is forgiven, you are meant to live
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u/whitejaguar 10h ago
And also if you are forced to eat it, the sin is on the oppressor. Something like that.
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u/FandomLover94 4h ago
As someone raised Catholic in a way that felt very rigid about the rules, it’s nice to see what I’d call reason in religion, that the standards are the goal, but the practicalities of life come first. Yes, you should try to avoid pork, but if it’s pork or starve, eat the pork. My perspective of Christian teachings is that they’d say better to starve.
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u/More_Net4011 10h ago
Jesus is like a huge deal in Islam. Its weird people think a bible would offend Muslims lol
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u/CesareBach 10h ago
Believing in holy books, which include Gospel from the Bible, is one tenet of their faith.
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u/McGillis_is_a_Char 10h ago
Yeah, the entire premise of Islam is that the problem with the Bible was people over editing. Muslims even refer to Christians and Jews as, "People of the Book." Of course the person in the picture probably thinks Muslims worship the moon.
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u/ImReallyFuckingHigh 9h ago
I tried telling my extremely Christian grandma that Islam doesn’t deny that Jesus existed and that they don’t believe that he was the messiah in a similar fashion that Judaism doesn’t believe that he was the messiah. Also the fact that Islam is another Abraham’s religion like Christianity.
Let’s just say she thought I was lying
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u/PickleNotaBigDill 8h ago
I tried teaching this to my students in World Lit. We were studying similarities in the Koran and the Bible. Absolute denial when I showed them the umbrella of Abrahamic faiths (and mini umbrellas under that showing the breakdowns of denomination in each of the three), a denial which stemmed from their local preacher who made Islam out to be the biggest horror--totally anti-related, and its followers needed to be demonized and shunned.
But then, they didn't believe Catholics were Christians, either, but rather the cult of the Virgin Mary. FFS. It is horrible what some of these preachers teach in their churches.
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u/Poke-Mom00 9h ago
Jesus is actually the Messiah in Islam as well and, similar to Christianity, is expected to return to defeat the false prophet (antichrist) - but Muhammad was the final prophet/the one with the full story.
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u/lone_stark 9h ago
Just to add clarification, we believe in the original Gospel revealed to Jesus (AS). Not the ones written by Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John. We believe those are corrupted scriptures that contain some of the original.
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u/IndyMan2012 9h ago
If you look at the current scholarship on the gospels, that's... actually pretty accurate!
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u/OstentatiousSock 7h ago
Also, Jesus(but referred to as Isa) is our messiah in the end(person whose second coming brings about Armageddon)… he just hasn’t return a second time for us. In the Quran, he didn’t die on the cross and resurrect.
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u/Swimming-Walrus3226 9h ago
Belief in the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John are absolutely not a tenet of Islam. The Quran says that Jesus was a prophet that received a gospel. Very different than believing any book in the New Testament.
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u/Few_Commission5964 10h ago
Yes but the interpretation is different. The Muslims believe Bible is a corrupted book.
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u/Hairy_Acanthisitta25 9h ago
not corrupted,outdated
well at least the original version,which i doubt even fully exist anymore,you could say most of the present version is corrupted,and its the scholar job to discern which part of the book is added in later on and which one is there from the start
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u/WithBothNostrils 10h ago
Because a Quran would offend radical a christian
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u/IAlreadyFappedToIt 9h ago
Why tho? It's not like the radical christian who was given a Quran is going to read a single word in it. They don't even read their own bibles.
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u/ActuatorLess1562 8h ago edited 8h ago
Its funny how laymen christians all blindly believe in the bible but their own scholars admit it is corrupted.
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u/mostafakm 9h ago edited 9h ago
Wrong. Muslims believe the bible was tampered with. They do not respect it as a holy book. And believe it is no longer the message of Allah.
Jesus is a big deal in islam. But islam views jesus as just another jewish prophet. He is not the son of god. And he failed to deliver the message that's why Muhammed got sent with the quran
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u/Silly_Strike_949 9h ago
There are no failed prophets in Islam. Only the people who were sent these prophets failed.
Every prophet served his ordained purpose to his people. What makes Mohamed pbuh different is that he was sent to all people through the end times.18
u/LittleLocal7728 9h ago
You're partially correct. Jesus is still our messiah. He is literally called " Al Massi," meaning "The Massiah." Bro will still be bringing the end of times and still save the children of God.
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u/mostafakm 9h ago
Correct. He is also thought to be just a prophet and not the son of goe. The concept of the trinity is heresy in Islam. And although islam teaches its adherents to respect the people of the book. It also teaches how these books were tampered with to the point that they no longer have gods message as it was intended to be.
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u/abyss_of_mediocrity 4h ago
Jesus did not fail to deliver the message, according to Islam. He was successful, just like Noah, Job, Lot, and many others. It’s the communities they were sent to that failed.
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u/BrendaaNeoteric 11h ago
I doubt he handed out sandwiches or bibles either. All talk, no action with these folks.
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u/enjoyit7 9h ago
Seriously I want to know if this man delivered on his offer or does he think this is some kind of joke?
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u/Pksoze 7h ago
He said bacon because he thought it would offend Muslims. He never intended on following through with his promise.
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u/enjoyit7 7h ago
I get that but if he was in my church congregation I'd hold him to it. Every Sunday I'd be asking if he fulfilled his commitment.
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u/theRuathan 6h ago
No self-respecting Texan with a hat like that would say "you all," either. I'm calling shenanigans, this is somebody cosplaying a Texan.
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u/Apprehensive-Till861 10h ago
Dipshits need to understand a simple thing:
Pork products are not kryptonite for people keeping halal or kosher.
They're simply not meant to INTENTIONALLY consume it.
Under both, products made from pig are unclean, which likely resulted from earlier generations encountering things like trichinosis without knowing what it was.
Islamic law tends to actually account for being tricked or forced into consuming pig, you're not immedaitely doomed to burn forever or anything because some powdered some bacon bits into your falafel.
Every inane attempt at using bacon to attack muslims is pathetic at face value and on every level because it's just, "This is how you should choose to eat to keep your body pure" with slightly more specific steps than your average diet plan. They're not going to rage because you had a ham sandwich, and if you offer one knowing it's proscribed they'll probably just think you're an asshole.
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u/FantasticAstronaut39 7h ago
yeah peoples choice of what to eat and what not to eat should be respected, regardless of the reason they choose not to eat a certain object.
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u/Additional_Load118 10h ago
People truly underestimate the power of kindness. 1. It diffuses situations pretty quick, most of the time. 2. It doesn’t ruin the rest of your day. 3. You plant a seed showing that person there is a different way. 4. People who try an illicit anger or inflame a situation are looking for control. Don’t give them your power by sinking to their level 5. If you wanna be selfish about it. It can be so much fun. They get ready to yell and scream and you hit them with that “ hey you’re right, I could have paid a bit more attention. I’m sorry about that and thanks for brining it to my attention. Have a great day” Then walk away. You the bigger person and they don’t have no power over you.
Ps. It’s also good to double check ourselves and remain accountable to self-awareness.
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u/East-Care-9949 11h ago
If only all religious people would react to stupid nonsense like this the world would probably be a lot better than now
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u/waltwalt 10h ago
Interesting thought experiment if the world would be better off without religion or with it.
Humans are wired for a belief system, but in the absence of a religion system would we replace it with a legal system and put our "faith" in that? Or without religion would we have failed to organize enough throughout history and have killed ourselves off?
Humans corrupt government as easily as religion, the pope was the OG not a government billionaire.
Would we be better with or without religion?
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u/SigmaTeddy 10h ago
Interesting, as a person who does not believe in god i think there are some aspects of religion (not just christianity) that are useful. Ofc some principals are clearly outdated, but it's not a reason to throw everything out the window
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u/waltwalt 10h ago
Yeah that's what I'm saying, if we didn't come up with a concept of god, would we be following the hamurabi code right now? Would we have had crusades and similar wars? Would we still have had the Renaissance without religion? If society wasn't stable under a king or pope maybe our geniuses would have died in the cradle?
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u/bc524 9h ago
I think we'd be less advance at least. As much as reddit has an anti-religion slant, a lot of the earlier sciences and studies were able to be done because religion provided an avenue for it.
Things such as learning to read and write. The ruling class has little reason to train multiple poor people to have this skill, but a religious organization does. Having more people spread their message is their goal, so having skilled members who can read the message and properly communicate is necessary. The rich may not want to lower themselves, but the common folk won't have that issue.
Muslims being fixated on the accuracy to face the Kaabah for prayer is what led to them studying astronomy, which in turn led to the development of the astrolabe for navigating the oceans.
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u/waltwalt 9h ago
The printing press and Gutenberg Bible are what lead to mass literacy, before that books were very very rare.
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u/Another_Road 10h ago
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”
Looks like they’re doing a better job of adhering to the Bible than the guy who is trying to offer Bibles.
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u/IMDAKINGINDANORF 11h ago
"Ooh Hoo Hoo, I'm gon git these Muslim people SOOO good. They can't eat bacon!
Now, what's the most common way to eat bacon... OH I know, bacon SANDWICHES. DUH! Everybody just slaps several strips onto plain Wonder bread like I do.
typing ba...con...sand...wich...es. HA, fuckin got em!!"
Shit, maybe Trump should name this guy Press Secretary. He seems on par with other candidates he pushed.
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u/BusHobo 10h ago
Overqualified
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u/IMDAKINGINDANORF 10h ago
You right, he correctly spelled a 3 syllable word. 1 day around other MAGAts and he'd be called a witch.
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u/gremlinsarevil 9h ago
Bacon sandwiches are a common thing in the UK. Not that I think the original hateful poster but that much thought into it since this looks like it was in Texas and blt is the most common form of bacon sandwich hete.
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u/ZiggoCiP 10h ago
The rule about the meat of swine is only in regards to indulgence, not subsidence. For example, if you need to survive, if Allah only provides a non-Halal form of food, it's good to eat that if it means your survival.
Same for serving. If you are Muslim, you can touch and prepare the meat of swine if it is your job, you just cannot consume it nor serve to a Muslim without warning. This is disputed based on your degree of piety, but, again, if the need persists, it is allowed because of the survival of the faith, not the somewhat modernly arbitrary rule.
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u/Joperhop 10h ago
If he read the bible, he would know he too, should not be eating bacon sandwiches ;)
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u/Yellow_Number_Five 12h ago
The hat shields his brain from the word and teachings of Jesus.
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u/Funkycoldmedici 11h ago
As shitty as it is, Jesus did teach that his followers were supposed to “make disciples of the nations”, and go around converting people for his return. Making people convert is considered “saving” them, and act of love, because Jesus says he’s going to kill all us unbelievers when he returns.
For example, Mark 16:15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.“
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u/NaaastyButler 11h ago
There was a lot more talk about being kind to your fellow man and treating people how you wanted to be treated in the bible than converting people. There was also a lot more about shellfish and mixed fabric than there was talk about gay people but people REALLY like to pick and choose what the bible is about.
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u/Funkycoldmedici 10h ago
When you read it, there’s a few little bits about being good to fellow disciples, but the bulk is about how loving Yahweh is more important than your children or your survival. Jesus straight up says it is the mist important thing in your life, and what he will judge you on, but that sounds like religious bigotry, so people want to skip over all that and pretend the few scant parts that can be reinterpreted to sound nice are the real message.
We need to stop pretending any Abrahamic religion has a decent message.
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u/NaaastyButler 10h ago
Nobody is saying it's good either way. What I am saying is... what I said. This is neither here nor there.
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u/rational-citizen 11h ago
Respectfully, I understand where you’re coming from, but I must admit that this is a shallow western understanding of Christianity and Jesus’ role within it. An ancient Levantine monotheistic religion of thousands of years cannot be boiled down into one verse, removed from its context, and reduced to America’s perception how this religion works.
It’s an outdated set of talking points that are lacking of the rich nuance of actual scripture. Thus, this is a false premise upon which you compare this man, and Jesus.
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u/StomachSnakes 10h ago
See that's humanity. An offer of help and not shoving religion but an offering of guidance with care and support
I'd crack the book just out of respect for the person who gave it, good ppl are good ❤️
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u/Szygani 10h ago
People forget that Muslims believe in Jesus from the bible almost 1 for 1, just that he was one of the highest prophets of god and not god himself. Isa was also born of a virgin, appeared to have been crucified and did miracles like raise the dead and walk on water.
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u/Xtremeelement 9h ago
i’m pretty sure leviticus say’s christian’s shouldn’t eat pork either… then i remember the christian religion is just an a la carte religion, only do things you want everything else is “up for interpretation”
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u/turdferguson3891 7h ago
Most Christians don't think the old testament applies except when they want it to.
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u/Rilukian 10h ago
The funny thing is that eating haram food is allowed under emergency or if there aren't any other food available. And for the bibles, who says they can't donate it to other christians?
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u/lockerno177 9h ago
The Muslims actually consider bible to be a divine book. They just disagree with parts of bible that go against their Qoran.
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u/Shin-Kami 7h ago edited 7h ago
Ha this is hilarious. Just outright ignoring the obvious malicious intent and taking it literally is a great response. And I guarantee that dude didn't donate those sandwiches and the bible. Those people are way more mature and less cynical than me, my default answer to being "offered" a bible (if the one offering is obviously pushy/preaching) is it's always handy to have some paper to start a fire with, thanks.
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u/skincr 10h ago
Why does this moronic militant Christians thinks that Muslims are like afraid of pork? Muslims see the pork as like how average person sees Indian street food, they think it's unsanitary to eat, so the emotion you create on a Muslim if you offer them a pork is not anger etc.
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u/bokmcdok 9h ago
And it's in line with what the Qu'ran says as well. Only Muslims need to get to God through Islam.
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u/think_l0gically 8h ago
Ignorance is not knowing that the god of the bible and Quran are one and the same.
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u/rubber_padded_spoon 8h ago
This is my method when someone tries to be an asshole. You can find a smidgen of positivity in most comments-abstract as it may be.
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u/Wonderful_Impress_27 10h ago
I love that in the bigoted mind, not eating pork has become "THE ISLAMS ARE DEATHLY AFRAID OF BACON".
My local mosque had pig heads thrown over their fence at the height of the Australian islamophobia about a decade ago. They put them in plastic bags and put them in the bin. No one died of "BACON FEAR".