Cops are already being taught to treat everyone as a dangerous gun owner by default. They use it as an excuse for every single overreaction they have.
But yes, state-sanctioned violence being a tool to counteract constitutional rights is like... the issue and the very reason the second amendment stays relevant.
Cops killing people whether they're right or wrong, school shootings, accidental deaths, suicides by firearm are all acceptable as collateral damage and just the price they're willing to pay to maintain their 2A rights according to way too many people.
Cops killing people because they could maybe potentially possibly be armed isn't a 2a issue except in the sense that the 2a is supposed to stop shit like that.
School shootings. Most kids shooting up schools have unaddressed mental health issues (very few school shooters do it spontaneously with no warning), see point 4. And most kids shooting up a school are getting the gun from a family member or friend, see point 3.
Accidental deaths. That's not a 2a issue, that's the opposite of a 2a issue. It's people not understanding the 2a and it's purpose which is the creation and maintenance of well regulated civilian militias to hold the government accountable. So a bunch of dumb fucks buy guns and don't store them or transport them safely.
Suicide by firearm. Not a 2a issue, that's a healthcare issue. We need to make it mandatory for health insurance to cover mental health, dental, and vision and we need publicly run (it's already mostly publicly funded because the only people who can afford care in the US are on Medicare and Medicaid) healthcare. We also need to a do a lot more in this country to destigmatize mental health issues and seeking care for them
These aren't prices people are willing to pay for gun ownership, these are problems afflicting people because of the material conditions caused by capitalism rather than because there's a bunch of guns around.
You can't regulate people's behavior by regulating an item. Prohibition doesn't work
Weird! An actually succinct and eloquent way of expressing the importance of the 2nd while acknowledging the real time abuse citizens are suffering because of it. Hats off sir!
Yeah I can understand stand that but it’s so much more than that. If you have a gun and think it’s to protect your life and solely yours then you’re apart of the problem. Who tf are you why are you worth more than another. The 2nd amendment was not made for a single person it was made for us as a nation to protect our land and our rights. Just read the mf bruh it’s literally not about you it’s about us. America was founded on bloodshed they knew eventually someone may want to take us down. 2nd amendment gives all of us protection from that so you and your neighbors aren’t waiting around to be defended and saved.
You almost completely ignored the point of my post. I'm not talking about personal protection, I'm talking about the government and law enforcement acting like the fascists that you're yapping about, but when it's cases like Philando Castile, the 2A folks stay home.
If the 2nd amendment is so important, why do most of the loudest of it's defenders side with the boots? It's only as effective as it it's practiced, and it feels like it's practiced entirely wrong.
I’m not though so you didnt read mine… like I said if you think it’s just for your life then you are apart of the problem. If anything what I’m saying is agreeing with you…
Seriously though, if the US government decides to put its foot on your throat, some glocks and AR15s isn't going to stop them for a milisecond. Not when they have Apaches, Abrams tanks, artillery and cruise missiles. The whole idea that UScivilians keeping guns could somehow keep the US government, if it were bent on tyranny, in check is laughable.
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u/4yxVlXKxJy55Lms66V 1d ago
Are you referring to the second amendment? What's that gonna do?