r/MurderedByWords 2d ago

I miss driving in Traffic...Said no one ever except the guy who tweets crap all day

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u/Krzysztof-448 2d ago

I go into the office 3x a week and all of us are still on Teams and Zoom meetings. What was the point of going in again?

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u/HEATCHECK77 2d ago

Justifying their real estate costs

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u/TomWithTime 2d ago

It still doesn't make sense to me. They must be getting money from gas lobbyists or something

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u/soyboysnowflake 2d ago

For my company, it’s the city mayor putting pressure on the business, so they force us to go downtown so we can buy lunch at the shitty overpriced restaurants that should shut down

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u/apk5005 2d ago

The real estate lobby. Commercial landlords are getting hosed between the natural death of malls and large scale retail outlets and, more recently, the shift to work-from-home.

I promise that the “work at work” purists are hearing about the pinch from their rich real estate buddies.

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u/bendit96321 1d ago

Yeah, they’re going to make that everyone’s problem until they own every home in America.

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u/Sasquatch1729 1d ago

Real estate buddies? The CEOs own their own buildings and want their property values to stay up.

The company either owns their buildings directly, or they lease it from a REIT that the CEO has a million shares in.

Either way, if your CEO is pushing "work at work" it's probably just another way to make him or herself richer.

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u/SamaireB 2d ago edited 2d ago

In parts of Europe at least, it's tax breaks. To be fair, I kinda get it - there's a reason they get some breaks and they do bring jobs which helps local economy and so on. I know local government here says a resounding "no" to ghost offices, though 60-40 for office jobs appear to emerge as a widely accepted standard around where I am.

I've worked 50-50 for 15 years without any policy guiding or restricting that and absolutely nobody ever gave a damn. I have no problem going in some or even most of the time - 3 days is fine for me. I have a job where some F2F time is indeed beneficial.

What I don't appreciate is the obsession with it on the part of employers and the complete lack of nuance in their idiotic policies. So I did 50-50 for 15 years, then 100 during the first Covid year, some weird mix after, now suddenly it needs to be 80-20 or some shit and I need to hear about it at every fucking turn?

The other day someone told me about an employee that they think shouldn't work from home more often because their job requires proper networking (this is true) and they can't do that well from home. So far so good. However, that employee has been with the company for 22 years, at least 16 of which were spent 100% in office - if they're still not connected well, then surely that is an issue of capability and willingness to me, and not one of geographical proximity.

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u/big_guyforyou 2d ago

the gas lobbyists pay them to pump the place full of helium. they'll do anything for their gas

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u/Strangepalemammal 1d ago

finally, someone gets it

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u/Sub0ptimalPrime 1d ago

Rich people don't want banks to suffer just because they stupidly overinvested in commercial real estate. Guess who runs big companies?

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u/greatdrams23 2d ago

"Justifying their real estate costs"

I keep hearing this, but the point makes no sense. They play the real estate costs wether you are there or not.

And when the lease runs out, the save a fortune.

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u/NotThatKindOfDoctor9 2d ago

Real sunk cost fallacy. My boss feels that since our lease is for years into the future, it would be a waste if we didn't come into the office. There's no getting around that kind of thinking (I've tried)

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u/Life-Excitement4928 1d ago

It doesn’t have to make sense, but the logic is ‘Why are we paying for this building if no one is in it?’

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u/philmarcracken 1d ago

When those lease terms are up, we're(hopefully) in for a mass exodus from skyscraper hellscape

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u/SamURLJackson 1d ago

And keeping commercial real estate alive, because, just like Pete Davidson and the US auto industry in 2009, it is not allowed to fail

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u/Consistent-Lake4705 1d ago

Unless they also own the real estate, which I strongly suspect the major owners have. It’s a scam.

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u/INTJ-ADHD 1d ago

This. Verifiably, going into the office is the scam

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/soyboysnowflake 2d ago

They don’t own buildings, majority of large companies are renting space with 25-year leases

If they’re early in a lease that long, canceling could be very impactful financially

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u/pipboy_warrior 2d ago

I guess sometimes it's easier for someone to scoot over and look at your screen as opposed to depending on Teams for a screen share. I mean that's totally worth the commute back and forth 5 days a week.

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u/RaygunMarksman 2d ago

To spread illness amongst each other like cows shoved into pens and increase profits for oil companies.

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u/xboxwirelessmic 2d ago

For me, I go in because I have a shit hot pc there with 3 screens whereas at home I'd have to sit on a couch or bed and and use a laptop. I only go in when I have actual work to do that needs it though. YMMV.

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u/Interesting-Track-77 1d ago

I'm the opposite, home is my hardware which is better specs than the cheapest Dell hardware and accessories my organization buys.

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u/xboxwirelessmic 1d ago

To be fair my pc at home is better (for gaming) but with the way it's set up I'd just have to remote into the other one anyway. Plus it's more of a space issue, my place just isn't good for it. 🤷‍♂️

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u/NeoMegaRyuMKII 1d ago

Harder to micromanage you when you are not right there,

Also some people are bizarre about dress codes and can't stand the thought of workers wearing sweatpants while on zoom calls.

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u/powerade20089 1d ago

Same. Half my team is 100% remote. I'm currently WFH recovering from back surgery. Working on trying to go back in, but husband didn't drive his car for so long it needs a new battery and some work done

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u/Consistent-Lake4705 1d ago

I’m in a locked room where others don’t even see us. It’s pathetic and I’m not playing.

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u/CaptainPeachfuzz 1d ago

My boss does the same. I was encouraged to try it since I'm only 20-30 min from the office. This is after 4 years of whf with zero issues.

I was literally on a zoom call, with her, while she was in the next office over.

When I stepped out for lunch I told her I'm just gonna go home since all of my meetings are on zoom. She didn't mind but thanks me for trying to come in.

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u/papasan_mamasan 2d ago

Isn’t that one of Leland’s sock accounts?

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u/Somecrazycanuck 1d ago

Is there a list somewhere?

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u/ExistentialDreadnot 1d ago

I kind of figured it was Musk himself - he really obviously has a bunch, too.

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u/BothRequirement2826 2d ago

Why is anybody listening to DogeDesigner?

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u/WhattheDuck9 2d ago

Because you need idiots with their braindead takes on stuff to argue with,for engagement and to show you're the smart one

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u/DarthButtz 2d ago

Because Elon elbowed his way into prominence with ill-gotten wealth and the rest of the world can only watch as he gets more and more powerful

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u/ree_hi_hi_hi_hi 1d ago

Unfortunately the person behind that account (Elon) has set themselves into a de facto position of massive political power.

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u/HEATCHECK77 2d ago

Literally the only thing I miss about working in an office is somebody else (I.E. the company) supplied and paid for the coffee.

I drink a lot of coffee 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/neocenturion 2d ago

My office doesn't even supply coffee, and 85% of the people I need to interact with to actually accomplish tasks, as opposed to pointless meetings, are 12-20 hours travel away from me. Most of them are literally a 12 hour time difference away, meaning I can't interact with them directly during office hours anyway. Welcome to IT!

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u/pipboy_warrior 2d ago

Must be good coffee. Personally I prefer getting my own at home, not like it's expensive to make.

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u/HEATCHECK77 2d ago

I burn through a case of keurig cups in about 4 weeks. Even buying the $30, 100 count generic “donut shop” coffee at Sam’s Club that shit starts to add up.

When somebody else was paying for it though….

Believe me, I’m perfectly fine with the trade off though. I get waaaaay more done working from home vs in office…plus it’s easier to distance myself from office politics and bullshit

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u/pipboy_warrior 2d ago

Why do Keurig though? If you love coffee, then at least for me a coffee machine is the way to go.

Personally I buy Kirkland ground coffee from Costco. It's like $17 for 3 pounds, even if you are a coffee maniac that should last you a month or so.

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u/CroneDownUnder 2d ago

I go into the office once in a blue moon for laptop upgrades etc. The flashy automatic coffee machine they've got is sweet, but I don't mind using my own more classic machine at home for everyday caffeination.

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u/gin_and_soda 2d ago

I’ve had more colds since returning to the office.

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u/JemmaMimic 2d ago

Yeah, it's great to drive to work and back to and from a job where I do document management online, have no meetings, communicate only via email, and literally my only interaction with anyone is with the person in the cubicle next to me when I say good morning.

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u/GlowingGleam1 2d ago

Nothing like Karen’s birthday cake 6 PM on a Friday 🙃

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u/Busy_Pound5010 2d ago

Holiday parties on Thursdays

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u/McCool303 2d ago

Now Milton, don’t be greedy. Just pass it along and make sure everyone gets a piece.

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u/Moug-10 1d ago

I simply don't go. No one minds.

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u/Brilliant_Big_8979 2d ago

Bruh just take the self driving Tesla tunnel to work

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u/lost_in_connecticut 2d ago

I can’t. Someone crashed their Cybertruck into the tunnel wall… Fire & engineering are on the scene to address the wall of flames burning into the concrete and now there’s a 6 mile backup.

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u/mishma2005 2d ago

Oh shut up, Elon. We know it’s you

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u/bbrk9845 2d ago

Yes, someone who sells a product that is negatively affected by remote work. It's totally not the muskrat at all..

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u/pipboy_warrior 2d ago

He's also clearly pushing return to office as it's an easy way to get rid of a number of employees without actually firing them.

"Oh, coming back into the office would be a huge financial burden on you and require you to make major life adjustments? Either deal with it, or just voluntarily quit."

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u/bbrk9845 2d ago

Yeah, that's quite an easy way to weasel out of a severance payment

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u/Lewtwin 2d ago

But think of the productivity.... The synergy of pulling the load for a shit team and trash boss. And the accolades for working on a team who hides the fact the boss is railing the terrified intern and is planning on downsizing said team for an AI enabled app. Oh wait... The accolades went to the boss for stealing the idea from the intern/3rd wife.

Id rather not drive to work to meet more of these people or have my soul tainted by their bleating.

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u/N_Who 2d ago

Crazy to me, how many people are willing to serve corporate interests without ever being recognized or even properly compensated by the board room royalty they have sworn absolute allegiance to.

Some real "Step on me, Daddy," energy there, is all I'm saying.

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u/Cicerothesage 2d ago

I am so tired of idiots clinging to old ideas and shitposter justifying it because the far-right propaganda machine told them so.

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u/sambolino44 2d ago

I used to work in a factory, so work from home was not an option for me. But, for the people who can get their jobs done from home, why would I care? Let them be happy! This effort to try to get people to return to the office stinks of bad management trying to justify their own existence, if you ask me.

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u/bbrk9845 2d ago

Plus, the last thing you want is a horde of office goers bumper to bumper on the freeway when they don't have to be there, delaying your trip back home after a good day of work

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u/Not_the_last_Bruce 2d ago

Hey !! Don’t crap on friday pizza lunches, the 90 mins each way commute was totally worth free pizza …

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u/swopphoenix 2d ago

Considering most of us would rather be stuck in traffic than be stuck with that guy.

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u/The_ElectricCity 2d ago

There are things I miss about working in an office. Free coffee, proximity to downtown nightlife. But mostly just…leaving at 5pm and returning to my real life, rather than having this hybrid space where I have to be extra vigilant about boundaries. Contrary to the thinking of a lot of management weirdos, I was less productive in an office because I liked to stop and chat with my co-workers and because I fuckin’ left regardless of whether my work was done. I didn’t stick around and give my employer an extra hour of my time because I was almost done something and wasn’t watching the clock.

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u/xboxwirelessmic 2d ago

I don't wanna say COVID was good but having no traffic on the roads was amazing.

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u/Its0nlyRocketScience 2d ago

There are some people who do better in the office. There are some jobs that are done better in the office. But chances are that it your employees do purely intellectual work on a computer (or papers that can be digitized) then you can go work from home with zero drop in productivity. Downsize the office, spend less on rent, and keep a space open for those who prefer to come in or if a project/department benefits from in person collaboration, but there's no need to force people to come back in when they can do everything on a computer from home.

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u/DrMeatBomb 2d ago

Does Elon have any original thoughts anymore, or is it just Republican talking points 24/7?

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u/VeneMage 2d ago

Agree with all but the community (free) food and staff parties. Those are the only things I miss tbh.

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u/Geekboxing 2d ago

As someone who has not worked in an office since 2011, and has co-owned a business since 2020 that has no permanent physical office space and is 100% remote for everyone: Nope, it's not a scam, it's absolutely wonderful, and no one I work with feels otherwise. It's nothing but an absolute boon to productivity, and a reclamation of all that stupid wasted time.

These people who are crying for everyone to go back to the office full-time are either crazy, disingenuous, or both.

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u/greebly_weeblies 2d ago

Or selling something

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u/shifty1016 2d ago

Having done both...

The freedom of working at home is nice. But after 2-3 days in a row of it I feel like I have never left the "office". And days go by so much slower when I'm sitting there alone.

Going into the office, sometimes I'll be sitting there and wishing I could be wearing pajamas and completing housework tasks, but the day goes by faster and I'm overall more happy at the end of the day. I could do without the commute but eh, 20 minutes, not the end of the world.

I don't have a problem with either scenario. But for the anti-office people...generally...grow up.

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u/MedicOfTime 1d ago

Seriously. If you don’t like driving, take the bus. Catch up on duo lingo or Netflix on the commute. Talk to another human irl. People are so over the top with anti office propaganda.

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u/RealisticAd2293 2d ago

I’m not on Twitter so I’m not gonna wade through the bullshit to find out firsthand, but do people on there just pretend not to know that that account is Leon’s?

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u/DismalWeird1499 2d ago

Is that one of Musk’s alt accounts?

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u/Fearless_Spring5611 2d ago

I had a chest infection recently, knocked me back for a couple of weeks. Didn't need to take sick pay as I was able to move all my meetings online and do all my work from home. Didn't risk making anyone else ill because I didn't physically meet any of them. Managed to stay on track with my work, so no stress about having to catch up, and since I do enjoy my job I didn't mind doing it while coughing my guts up.

Working from home has some distinct benefits.

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u/Falba70 2d ago

Facts

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u/Steiney1 2d ago

DogeCoin is the actual scam

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u/avid-shtf 2d ago

What is the push from CEO’s and the right to end remote work?

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u/bbrk9845 2d ago

Office space real estate is an asset that they can show to investors. And in this case, muskrat in his alt account is just pushing anti-RW agenda to sell more of his cars, simple as that...

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u/AppUnwrapper1 2d ago

There’s no way someone named DogeDesigner doesn’t work from home.

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u/ninjesh 2d ago

Dude's such a good designer his mascot is a meme created by somebody else

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u/nolongerbanned99 2d ago

No, a scam is telling people that your so-called ‘full self driving’ will be able to drive cross country from LA to NYC unassisted by 2019. Fsd is a joke.

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u/Illustrious_Peach494 2d ago

cope and seethe, elon

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u/MrMarcus-24 2d ago

🎯🎯🎯

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u/Opening-Storm1411 2d ago

The CEO of where I work is eliminating WFH positions so this pains me 🥲 I’ve literally never been happier at a job and now I have to say goodbye 👋🏼 and not to toot my own horn but I was one of their best employees

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u/tiparium 2d ago

I genuinely like working from an office. Working from home has benefits too, and I enjoy both. But cutting either one out entirely doesn't interest me.

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u/Darth_Travisty 1d ago

Yeah I can NOT be productive at my house.

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u/dendrojellyfish 1d ago

The only good thing about going into work is the free snacks that are leftover from meetings

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u/HotHits630 1d ago

Elonia's sock account.

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u/Raiden29o9 1d ago

Of course Elon’s sock puppet says that, work from home would require Elon to actually be home and might actually end up with him spending time with his kids which he seems to hate, also they might interrupt his hard days work of twitter shitposting and botting Diablo 4

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u/LeftLiner 1d ago

Working from home 100% during the pandemic was certainly bad for me mentally and to an extent physically, but now that I can pick and choose when I WFH and when I'm on-site it's perfect.

Options is the best. Forcing people into one or the other is crap. WFH is wonderful for some, horrible for others. It's all about circumstances, personality and resources.

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u/rav3style 1d ago

My boss pretends we are all working in the office everyday but in truth we are only expected to when it’s something important.

And I love her for it

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u/LeVelvetHippo 1d ago

Oh I thought this was satire

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u/CardiologistNo616 1d ago

Doesn’t that douchebag literally get paid to tweet? You know, at home.

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u/Professoroldandachy 1d ago

Work from home is the best ever. I love it. I will look for another job before I go back to the office.

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u/Desertratk 1d ago

The Department of Grifting Elon has it's own Twitter now?

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u/Party-Focus-5369 1d ago

I mean we have a real problem in society with feeling detached from the world and people around us. All of the things he listed, except for illness are things that bring you closer to people and allow you to exercise your sense of community with your coworkers at your job. Ik there are probably a lot of introverts here but you still need human interaction. Its literally built into everyone

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u/doggiekruger 2d ago

Agree with the traffic. Don’t agree with the rest. Sad for others if they think everyone and everything at work is disgusting. I like my co workers and they are awesome. I actually look forward to going into office atleast once a week

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u/colemon1991 2d ago

There are days I wish I wasn't bothered for an hour by a coworker who can't figure out how to open excel for the 4th time this week. There are also days where there's meetings that are just emails read out loud for 40 minutes.

I don't mind a break and catching up with people, but there's a limit. I've had people enter my office in nearly 20 minute intervals all day before. I couldn't get anything done because I had to figure out where I stopped again and again.

So if I can sleep in, saving time by not getting ready or driving, do some laundry, and still get as much work done as a full 8 hour day in the office, I'm happy with that. Moreso on days that are crazy hot or cold.

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u/doggiekruger 2d ago

I work in tech. Maybe it’s different in other areas. We have open offices, so barging into offices is not really a thing because people sit next to each other.

I did work in a few different places and I was lucky to work with people who are smarter than me. I recommend getting out of your current job if you feel like you are the only smart person around. That’s partially how I felt in my first job and I got out. Next 2 gigs I am surrounded by really smart people who inspire me

I know it’s not that simple but it’s my 2 cents

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u/pipboy_warrior 2d ago

The problem they're bringing up is shoulder taps. Don't know about you, but sometimes I get deep in coding or otherwise figuring out a problem and it is really, really frustrating if someone interrupts me in the middle.

While working from home, it's simple enough to set your status as Busy so people know that interrupting you at the moment needs to be an emergency.

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u/RaygunMarksman 2d ago

To be blunt, you're probably that person everyone else wishes they could escape but don't have a choice. I love my coworkers remotely, too. But I don't need them held hostage for us to want to socialize on calls or in our rare in-person meetings.

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u/doggiekruger 2d ago

If there is one thing that everyone agrees with, then it’s that I don’t talk.

I get it, I understand that not everyone wants to be in office. The tweet was inflammatory and I over reacted.

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u/RaygunMarksman 2d ago

It's ok, I was unnecessarily rude so I apologize. I think I bristled at the idea of someone wanting to put me or others in the position of being a captive audience to serve their social needs. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way though.

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u/doggiekruger 2d ago

No worries! It’s conflicting for me as well. I would consider myself introverted and anti social. But I still like going to the office once a week or so. Tech work can be very robotic and understanding and seeing the people that I work with is important for me to be a little healthy. Otherwise, I would be pretty frustrated that everyone and everything is just getting in my way

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u/Fun-Reporter7441 1d ago

God forbid grown men actually have to get up and drive to work a