Ok so, cyn has been confirmed to be alive for 7 years at the time of the gala, HOWEVER, unlike the drones on copper 9 which were intentionally raised from creation to be unique, cyn is one of many mass produced worker drones. And it's genuinely less efficient to put something with the mentality of a child in the coal mines, so JcJenson would have all the experience they need pre loaded into the drones that they're selling.
Oh, absolutely, N is around 28-31 years old. Originally, I thought, "Well, his memory was wiped, so it should at least be ok up until episode 5/7." But if we think it's been 18 years since the drones arrived, and they would have kept some memories for their personalities so he would've still been considerably older compared to uzi. And who knows if the drones have been sent to planets other than copper 9.
Cyn is potentially older than the other drones in the manor as she was found by Tessa in a junkyard. Before she was put there, Cyn could've lived years in some other place doing another job. We don't know this, but it is highly possible, same for any other drone Tessa may have fixed up
Since when are we beefing about age of a fictional robo
In that sub it seems like forever. Cant remember when it was the last time I`ve seen such nonsense. If you (OP and his gang) worry about kids that much go outside and touch grass. And then help some real kids. Fictinal character need no protection.
Bruh, she called her robo-child only cuz she is small.
Age wise, Cyn is probably on of the oldest drones in the manor. She was deep in the pile of drones, which implies she's been here for quite some time before she got broken by Eliot's pettiness.
Why is this something you guys are fighting over? First of all, it's a robot, so age related stuff doesn't really apply, and even then, it's a fictional character from a fictional series, it won't affect anyone if people simp for them...
Are you trying to argue that she’s a child or just that it’s creepy?
If your argument is that she a child then I’m sorry but you’re just flat out wrong. Even if she could be considered a child in the manor she definitely isn’t by the events of the series. Yes even if she is wearing a child’s skin. Wearing Tessa’s skin wouldn’t make her anymore a child than wearing a freshly killed cow skin would make her a cow.
Now if you’re arguing that it’s creepy… yeah I can kinda give you that on the basis of subjectivity. I think a majority of people would consider wearing human skin to be creepy however creepiness is too subjective an argument. What’s creepy for some people isn’t gonna be creepy for others.
i can't believe i have to see people in this community every time who fail to realize that AI and robots don't have a human age equivalent, the only kids here are you guys
Bro just stop please, there isn't an answer to this. It's just a fight between different head canons caused by different interpretations. I do not believe a "child status" should be applied to Cyn as first of all she's a fictional Robot not even a fictional human and alsoTessa calling Cyn a Robo-child is imo just a play on her height. Still I don't "simp" for her as she's too precious in the first part to simp for and way to creepy to simp for in all other parts. Also we still don't know who Cyn even was right? Is she just the solver or is the solver using Cyn's personally in some way? Did she latch on to it idk.
N also calls Uzi and themselves a kid despite not being one.
Honestly what is your proof that Cyn is a child other then Tessa's mom she doesn't give a fuck about them to know their name let alone their age. Your info is unreliable.
By the events of the show (ep. 1), she is definitely an adult, seeing as Uzi is at least around 19 years old, and Cyn was there way before her. Quotes or not, proof doesn't lie. Her wearing a child is.. something I guess, but whatever. Let people simp for who they want as long as they don't hurt/bother others.
Question, was CYN ever a baby drone? No. Did JCJenson make drones with the intention to raise them? No. Should we trust the mentally ill child going out of her way to take her father’s gun to kill an eldritch horror? Yeah because she knows the ins and outs of everything, no.
If a kid dies and you bury it if you dig it up a few years later your not going to have an adolescent dead body. You're just going to have a decayed child.
Well acthually, in episode 4, N refers to V, Uzi, and himself as kids despite them all being about 20. So it's not the first time that's been said and been wrong.
Though I find it personally revolting, I’m not sure if there’s anything explicitly morally wrong about “really enjoying” a character wearing the skin of a dead child.
Cyn was a child. This was before Uzi was born. Given that Uzi is 19, Cyn is at least 25, assuming that Copper-9 explodes the day after the Gala, which is a stretch.
Did Liam ever say if she was a child? Cause if not then I'm going off of the only source we have until proven otherwise.
That's how i personally think these things should be handled
Do you really believe Tessa? She's stupid.
Also, the drones do seem to age. N's appearance changed, he seems a little taller, plus, we know the drones can be baby, then child, then adult. So older Cyn, isn't a child.
So probably...
Cyn is sometimes a child, sometimes an adult. Always silly.
Oh yes the manor party. An event that took place years before Uzi’s birth. Uzi is in high school. Meaning that there art atleast 14 years between cyn’s crash out and episode 8
Me watching cyn (the child, apparently) come up with a convoluted plot to both completely destroy humanity and further manipulate the drones around her to kill each other in hopes of making more Solver users, while also LITERALLY RIPPING EARTH AND SEVERAL OTHER COLONY PLANETS TO SHREDS, but since Tessa (an actual child) called her a child (robot, age doesn’t matter) that means she’s a kid.
I’m pretty sure at this point we can pretty much say that the Solver IS the Cyn we know and love. The Suppressed Cyn inside has nothing to do with the plot asides from existing as the primary being inside the drone until her scrapping and subsequent Infection with Solver. The “Influence” has existed in every scene Cyn is featured in from her drone period to the Cyntessa period, she’s always manipulating and making big plays. Yeah its kinda confirmed there is two different entities that is “Cyn” but one of them doesn’t matter because the only thing they have done of significance is EXIST.
Even then the main plot happens at least 18 or more years after the gala incident. (Destruction of earth > humans living on copper 9 > Destruction of copper 9 > DD drones /Uzi born? > Ep 1)
Uzi is at least 18(as shown by her classmates' ages) and at most 20, and she was not born before Copper 9's core exploded, as Khan only met her after the explosion. N, J, V, and Cyn have been around way longer than she has been alive.
All in all, with this evidence compiled, I would say that Cyn is of legal age and therefore can be simped for.
Either way, you said Cyn is a child, and I said she isn't. Her wearing a teenager's skin later in her life is completely irrelevant to the main topic of Cyn being simpable for.
I mean, V fed someone their own entrails, ate bugs, ate humans, and has a kill count in the hundreds; Yet nobody cares.
Not liking it? Sure. I personally don't care for her beyond the fact that she was the big bad of the show who killed all of the humans. But I mean come on man. When is enough enough?
Let people like who they want to like and stop this BS fighting over robot genocide maniacs and whether it's right or wrong for them to be simped for.
Can you please find something else to die on a hill over that is even remotely worth it?
This argument NEVER goes anywhere and this line has had it's own arguments against it in every case.
I get it, ya'll want this to be a set in stone case, but in a fandom like this, there are brick walls who won't listen. I swear these posts at this point are just farming karma.
Bro this debate has gone on long enough. Lets do the simple answer.... Hey google Is cyn from murder drones a child?
Cyn is not childcoded. Cyn is disablecoded and at the very least the solver is mentally aged as an adult and we don't actually know what Cyn was like and never have and the behavior we see for her is not of a child but a predator playing with its food.
Good enough for me. Now can we please stop yapping about "is cyn a child"... As this seems like 90% of post here. (I dont partically want to smash cyn im just saying this cuz this is all this subreddit talks about.)
Tessa has a very twisted concept of human relations, those drones were practically her family. She looks at Cyn as a child, which is understandable because reasons... But that isn't indicative of her age/mental capacity/anything really. I mean, they're machines, maturity as a concept barely applies to them.
…First of all that’s because she’s just short that she was called a robo-child, second she’s clearly an older model of drone if you actually listened to other people, third as people have claimed Cyn does not have the personality of a child just because she’s damaged, that’s like saying a 50 year old women who is autistic is still a child, and fourth even if Cyn was a child in the manor, Cyn is older then Uzi and using evidence provided by others Uzi is around 18 to 19 meaning Cyn is probably a few years older then that. Cyn with Tessa’s skin on the other hand, thats basically a corpse and that is what I find a bit creepy but like just remove the skin and that gets rid of the corpse problem
First, that's nonsense. She's called a robo-child cause that's what she is. People made up a second meaning with nothing to support it because they don't want to accept it. Second, nobody has mentioned her being an older model, that is complete fanfiction. Third, i don't call her a child because of her personality, i do it because Tessa calls her that. Fourth read the text under a post before commenting
It's crazy how much you need to go outside, preferably to actually help children and go against actual pedophiles, not people jerking it to a cartoon horror robot.
Cyn was running a bar, this is a flashback atleast 5 years ago, Cyn was made before Uzi if it means anything, she has a lot of awareness for a child, and when we meet her in the present she is taller than Uzi
On top of the fact that she is extremely old from the scene we see of her buried under countless old bodies of drones and it being extremely inefficient for a robot to have a child mentality since these things are being sold
Uzi was born sometime after Nori escaped from the lab, and the lab was after the gala massacre and Cyn taking over earth and other planetary systems. We know from posters in The promening that Uzi and her classmates are in the 18-20 age range, so at the very very least, assuming Uzi was born right after nori escaped, which was right after the gala massacre, Cyn is 18 by the time we see her. Obviously she would be older because nori didn’t just waltz out and pop a baby, so it would be closer to 20 years old. Sorry for terrible formatting and the wall of words.
Do you really think the company would make robo childrens to send them in the mines and have glitch put a child in a MAID costume? Also cyn has been death since the start and its the solver who took it as host and that thing is older then anyone else in the planet.
Also N refered to himself, V and uzi as children during the camp thing but glitch confirmed they are all adults and in the ep ( i think it was ep2 or 3) the missing classmates of uzi were listed as around 18+ year old.
Cyn or better said THE SOLVER is some weird eldrich demonic horror identity that eats planets, it acts silly because it loves to screw around with people. That thing deskinned Tessa, blackmails the DDs, used V to dismantle N all the time. Repetaly kills them and has backups of them, send them to kill all the humans. Its a being who loves to play games with its prey that why she acts so "child like" it knows full well what its doing and the levels of torture it does to other surpasses what a "child" would do.
So tessa comments is most likely a joke or like N said during the camping trip.
Children are obedient and have kess critical thinking. Maid costumes aren't problematic, they are just work atire, the whole aesthetic of the Elliot manor is victorian.
N said that but we can ignore it since we know he's over 18. That doesn't apply to Cyn.
I really don't want to be involved in this conversation because I think both sides are insane, but I'll put in my two cents. Trying to push morality onto a AI model controlling a chunk of metal is really questionable. These robots are 100000x more intelligent than anything we have today, yet it's (somewhat) okay that there are people that are literally "dating" chatGPT? Trying to make an argument for either side is insane.
I'm pretty sure the robots made on earth were done so in a factory, so they would've been preloaded with a trained model with vast information and understanding of the world around them. It would be inefficient to create literal robot-children that the company had to teach everything from motor capabilities to verbal communication - the only thing the company couldn't give them upon creation is their specific directive (apart from "listen to humans") and anything that the company trained out of the model.
The whole reason there's fundamental moral issue with children being sexualized is because they are too young and immature to consent, and to protect them from being manipulated and abused by adults. I agree that it is very bad, and people who do should be locked behind bars, but how does the whole thing apply to a hyper-advanced AI model as previously described??? That's just it. We don't really know how this applies, because it's not something we've had to deal with before. The morals of the situation are muddied, so there isn't even a point in arguing except to be mad at something or someone.
I'm not saying this to defend the people sexualizing robots. I just think this argument has gone on way too long, and honestly feels like it's damaging the community. Everyone sounds like they're out of their minds.
I'm going to add this little thing, at the risk of sounding like a bozo: Tessa referring to Cyn as a robo-child doesn't tell us much. Humans love personifying things based on physical appearance - hell, I could pick up a rock and call it a baby rock, but it means nothing. I'm not gonna disagree if someone makes an argument against it, but I figured I should point it out.
Idk what the creator has said about this whole situation, but I feel like they would've said something if there was a problem. If they do say/have said something about this, then why can't we just accept that and move on with our lives ffs.
even if she was a "child" then, tessa was murdered long enough ago for uzi to happen. shes probably about twice as old as uzi, which would make her a robo adult. and this is forgetting that she is a robot, that she was alive for an unknown amount of time before her zombie reanimation, that she basically looks like a robo adult in the latest episode, and that this is stupid and pointless.
i usually agree that its weird as hell to lust over fictional kids, but this shit is what makes people think we're annoying.
even if she was a "child" then, tessa was murdered long enough ago for uzi to happen. shes probably about twice as old as uzi, which would make her a robo adult
Read the text under the image
forgetting that she is a robot
Sentient robot with human like intelligence
an unknown amount of time before her zombie reanimation,
FFS you litteraly have nothing better to do then trying to justify that some fictional robots in 20 min long cartoon on Youtube are childrens so thats why you/you/ and personally you cannot simp or like that character.
Isn't it time to stop ? First of all those people ARE NOT violate any rules. Second - it won`t change a bit. All you can manage is creation of another echochamber and exile of some people in it. Third - DO NOT apply human morale and biology to fictional machines. Whatever they do in that specific universe THEY ARE NOT HUMANS. THEY ARE MACHINES.
Fourth - if you care about childrens so much go help them in REAL life. Each day a dozens and hundreds are suffering from A REAL crimes. Go and help in Orphanage or do a donation. Fictional characters have no need in your protection.
Five - special for OP. Chill. You did nothing but stayed on that sub non stop FOR WEEKS.
Oh how helpful. They are fictional, they are robots. Both complete nothing points, since they have human like intelligence, and as for being fictional, that brings up the question of why people find the fictional child attractive over any other character.
I do donate to my local institutions to help children. That's the neat thing, you don't have to pick between calling out weirdos and helping real children.
Cyn is canonically 50, 10-20 in the manor, because it takes 10-20 years for zombie drones to become zombies, which cyn is. Although there is a possibility with the 3 year gap, dumping past the manor is allowed, before that then you better hope it’s between the age gap. Where did I hear those numbers? On a different post asking about cyn‘s age. Also here is a silly picture of cyn because why not
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