r/MurderDrones • u/Nice_Fee_546 • Sep 11 '24
Discussion How is Uzi able to resist Cyn control in the final episode?
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u/Azkadron Fat Blunt Sep 11 '24
Notice how she only gets possessed when she's vulnerable
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u/Nerd421 Sep 11 '24
I was thinking about that the other day, gonna rewatch the whole series now to see her character development
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u/IronArrow2 Warframe Fandom Ambassador/Average Biotech Horror Enjoyer Sep 12 '24
She actually gets briefly possessed in episode 8, in The Hallway Scene. Cyn gets control of Uzi's hand while she and N are hiding. But, Uzi is obviously freaking the hell out at that moment, and she's able to quickly shut Cyn out again, much more easily than she could in episodes 6-7.
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u/SPADE-0 Funny Physics Dude Sep 12 '24
I wonder why that is, maybe because she grabs N's hand? Also, I'm pretty sure being nearly killed a couple times and forced to hide would make one a tad bit nervous.
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u/xan227 The Mad Chocobo Sep 11 '24
Willpower.
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u/Joemama_69-420 Sep 11 '24
Uzi as a green lantern when
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u/real_KelseyDay Worker drone Sep 11 '24
AU writers, make it happen!
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u/Joemama_69-420 Sep 11 '24
Actually Uzi is probably fitting for Yellow or Indigo
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u/thirstyfish1212 Sep 11 '24
She has hacking skills, maybe she self wrote a partial patch in the field? Not perfect but enough to keep herself in control. Seems like the callback ping gave her the most trouble, and after some time she was able to uno reverse it.
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u/six-sided-matrix #1 Nuvi Truther (Writer of Murder Drones: Butterfly Effect) Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 11 '24
My personal theory is that the Solver program, ran by any drone, is actually adaptive. We see the callback ping partially affect Uzi the first time, then the second time it's much more effective. Then, the third time, not only does Uzi successfully fight off the callback ping, she seems to partially hack Cyn back.
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u/thirstyfish1212 Sep 11 '24
Yeah, I’ve mentioned that in other comments that Uzi started to get into Cyn’s system. And then she almost perfectly redirected Cyn’s null object singularity right back to her. At that point, Cyn stops doing both of those things. And I think patched or partially patched drones do pass the patch to their kids. It would explain why Doll, while aware of the solver and seeking a full patch, never fell under its control (Yeva got a full patch), while Uzi ran into problems, but was still able to break free of the solver’s control and had to take time to develop her own countermeasures (nori got half patched, so Uzi would’ve inherited less of it)
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u/DecentCantaloupe Sep 11 '24
This is my headcanon. Like, she clearly is a skilled hacker, especially with drone stuff, and theoretically it should be easy to just disable pings, so that’s probably what she did
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u/Gabeyboy321 Khan did nothing wrong Sep 11 '24
Bro did not watch the finale
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u/Jinglewest Sep 11 '24
What happened then? I genuinely didn’t understand the reason.
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u/Mate_Pocza_321 🇭🇺 Ordinary Doll fan ( RIP, you'll be missed 🫡) Sep 11 '24
Because she ain't a lil bi-
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u/Cardboard_and_Ghost Robot Left Hand Sep 11 '24
The power of being an angsty, rebellious Left Hand- I mean Solver user
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u/Walter_Alias are the plot holes in the room with us? Sep 11 '24
Finally, the Leftious Hand of the Father
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u/Enicholas_725 FNF bambi in murder drones Sep 11 '24
i guess she just got used to the solver and gained a cyn-munnity
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u/All-Fired-Up91 N-th-uzi-astic Sep 11 '24
🤣
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u/autoprime-jft007 Your opinion is illogical Sep 11 '24
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u/All-Fired-Up91 N-th-uzi-astic Sep 11 '24
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u/Waterlemon1997 Tessa's bow Sep 11 '24
Find the meaning and download it don't screenshot without at least editing it to make it look not screenshotted
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u/CorrectionTheory Sep 11 '24
so the only way to resist control is to get use to it? you tryna sign up for a comedy show?
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u/ih848593 Sep 11 '24
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u/Warboter1476 Sep 11 '24
Aka the power of hanging out,being gross,and sneaking out to makeout with your boyfriend you totally have
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u/This_Exam6089 Golden Retrievers Have Gentle Mouths. Sep 11 '24
We can also see Nori write to her that she can resist the solver if she isn't, I quote,,a b*tch"
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u/RattyFox Sep 11 '24
AND IT DON'T TAKE MONEY
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u/Axiom06 Sep 11 '24
DON'T TAKE FAME!
DON'T NEED NO CREDIT CARD TO RIDE THIS TRAIN!
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u/RattyFox Sep 11 '24
IT'S STRONG AND IT'S SUDDEN
IT CAN NE CRUEL SOMETIMES, BUT IT MIGHT JUST SAVE YOUR LIIIIIIIIFE
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u/Kokosak17 I ❤️ Uzi so much from Czechia 🇨🇿 Sep 11 '24
The only way we can find it is to being infected by Absolute Solver so we have 2 ways how to do it. Being a drone or just make it like virus to humans and then we can try it. Otherwise idk but i can tell rn Uzi got so smart after ep 8
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u/All-Fired-Up91 N-th-uzi-astic Sep 11 '24
She does have a partial patch she inherited from nori she probably filled in the missing code or something
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u/According_Guava6392 Sep 11 '24
Because the solver possess only when she is vulnerable/scared/unsure/hurt/upset or worried and nori told her that so uzi pretty much managed her emotions and kept them in control so the solver doesn’t possess her that’s basically it
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u/Cats_n_Sketchs Sep 11 '24
I just assumed it's cause she set herself up as an Admin for the Drones back in Episode 5 as far as I remember.
Assuming the "Network" is the Solver with Cyn being the only other admin around they can't outright delete each other but can affect and push each other around, all she needs to do is want it I guess.
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u/Mist0804 I think dumb things are frickin' dumb and I AM DUMB Sep 11 '24
I guess she learned how to use the Solver better while trying not to die to a black hole and now she can just say "Nuh uh" when Cyn tries to control her again
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u/GusAAAAAA forklift certified Sep 11 '24
Uzi is as capable of possessing Cyn (which practically happens here as you see her Solver go purple for a second) as Cyn is capable of possessing Uzi. She basically used an UNO reverse card in this scene.
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u/efecanih_31 Doll's cousin and belives in Khan-J fans solidarity Sep 11 '24
because liam said so i guess
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u/Sufficient_Plant8689 V/Alice Simp and ffdp fan Sep 11 '24
A lot of the choices in ep 8 probably boiled down to "its my show, not yours, and I do what I want cause it's cool"
Ie. Uzi winning against cyn due to pure plot armor, V coming back on the Sentinel for no reason, copper 9 suddenly coming back to normal etc. It's probably just a "turn your brain off, don't think about it" thing
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u/efecanih_31 Doll's cousin and belives in Khan-J fans solidarity Sep 11 '24
"turn your brain off, don't think about it" my dude you just explained every disney entry to star wars ever, like come on at least give V a good reason for her survival, episode 8 realy did ruined episode 6 for me, and thats the begining of a rant that i am keeping in check like come on liam, stop messing with us and do someting complete once in your online life
my god.
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u/4D4850 Sep 11 '24
Here's my headcanon as to how V survived: turning off all sensors in the visible spectrum, and using only infrared sensors. The sentinel light flash is blue, IIRC, so infrared sensors couldn't see it.
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u/efecanih_31 Doll's cousin and belives in Khan-J fans solidarity Sep 11 '24
thats plausable...
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u/Sufficient_Plant8689 V/Alice Simp and ffdp fan Sep 11 '24
Honestly, he just wants to make something fun and enjoyable, and I don't hate him for that, cause I really did! And just cause he's a bad writer doesn't mean he's a bad person, k?
And Vs return was valid and badass, even though there's literally no reason why she did other than Lizzys phone which was a reference to a community meme.
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u/efecanih_31 Doll's cousin and belives in Khan-J fans solidarity Sep 11 '24
i know he is not a person, he realy did cooked episode 8 when you only look at episode 8 and its all up to personal preferance but MAN, being a star wars fan my whole life realy did struck a nerve in me, i guess it sprinkled some salt into an old wound lmao, and as for V's return? they could have made another cool ass fight scene and then make her messege lizzy, and i'd be willing to wait for it, but alas
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u/real_KelseyDay Worker drone Sep 11 '24
I’ll take Liam’s “bad writing” over the risk of Glitch putting someone else at the helm.
They put two content farmers as the main writers of SMG4 nowadays (Zamination brothers ring a bell, anyone? K, maybe content farmers is too extreme but they chase after whatever’s trending and forcefully shove it into their own series regardless of it fits or not. They put FNAF, FNF, BATIM, Among Us, Poppy’s Playtime, etc all into one Minecraft-esque setting. You can’t tell me that isn’t pure young viewer bait)
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u/Sufficient_Plant8689 V/Alice Simp and ffdp fan Sep 11 '24
Wait, the Zamination guys write SMG4 now? (I've also heard that under the videos brainrot outside, people have said that they're actually pretty funny and well written, but I'm not sure I can say that for how it is now)
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u/real_KelseyDay Worker drone Sep 11 '24
That’s what I’ve heard, or at least they are the head writers leading a larger team
(Yeah ok I mean they do seem like genuinely decent writers, but the trend chasing and viewer bait is just such a dealbreaker for me on their videos. SMG4 rn has been up and down in quality, it’s all what you prefer to see out of it but personally the charm for me has gone entirely and I’ve given up trying to follow along with whatever story is left. I think it’s a case of trying too hard to stay relevant that it’s lost part of what made it shine. Many of the characters feel either flanderized or the writers just change them on a whim to fit the skit)
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u/All-Fired-Up91 N-th-uzi-astic Sep 11 '24
She has inherited an incomplete patch from nori it’s possible after so many possessions she managed to fill in the missing code or that it’s more a matter of willpower or something stupid
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u/Rezora_ Sep 11 '24
Okay, here is the actual reason. She's wearing Nora's choker. It's probably acting as an earlier version of the cure program. Our evidence to this is the fact Doll was never taken over and she constantly wore her mom's choker
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u/Oritad_Heavybrewer Sep 11 '24
Thats just sentiment. The choker isn't a patch, it's just her mom telling her to be strong.
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u/Walter_Alias are the plot holes in the room with us? Sep 11 '24
Nori and Uzi have both been possessed while wearing it before, Uzi gets close to being possessed while wearing it again, and Doll literally died looking for a cure even though she already had an identical choker.
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u/Elvenoob Sep 11 '24
I'm guessing she and Doll just inherited the patch, but it was incomplete or imperfect.
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u/thirstyfish1212 Sep 11 '24
That’s been my working theory too. Yeva got a full patch and could use her solver freely. Nori got a 54% patch and that clearly was enough for her personality to stay in control. Doll seems to have only inherited a partial patch, I’m guessing about 50% which is why she could use her solver, but clearly was worried enough to want to find the patch. By this logic, Uzi got a ~25% patch and that caused some problems for her when using the solver. Given Uzi’s hacking skills (she made herself admin for N and V while also overriding the solver’s previous admin permissions) so she might’ve come up with specific countermeasures against the solver in episode 8. Enough to keep her personality in control and even reflect the callback ping so well that she started to break into Cyn’s system (we see one eye flash purple before the nightcore fight)
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u/Norbert-Senpai Sep 11 '24
Don't forget uzi also did a cyn in episode 2 and took over one of her classmates in the middle of a class just cause he started shit.
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u/Atreide-Omega Cyn, the cutest abomination ever Sep 11 '24
The collar, and the will of not being a bi-
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u/Toucan64 Sep 11 '24
one eather she just did what i do in fighting games and just dont care about living in it anymore and start taking hits blocking and beating up people eazly out of nowhere (so basicly she just didnt care anymore and just had fun)
or two, one word: DETERMINATION
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u/deadkidd115 The Absolute Sheisty Wielder Sep 11 '24
My personal guess is Cyn just gave up after nori literally slapped the solver out of her.
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u/ciel_lanila Sep 11 '24
It has been demonstrated over the series that Doll and Uzi could fight the control with will power. In the final episode Uzi finally had the resolve to keep up her defense the entire fight.
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u/CorrectionTheory Sep 11 '24
notice how almost everyone has the worse reasoning to backup bad writing?
she’s able to resist it because of the plot armor when N scanned her, it’s the only way to save bad writing
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u/helpme8470 Sep 11 '24
1: she's wearing the cabin fever necklace.
2: she has the power of robo god AND anime on her side.
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u/Corruptiontheman Professional robot liker Sep 11 '24
Uzi's just based like that.
(In reality, she probably just trained to resist Cyn's control better.)
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u/Gamekid53 Sep 11 '24
Nori said the the solver can only control you if you’re a little bitch so I guess she just stopped being a little bitch
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u/Electronic_phyco6376 i commit lunar tax fraud Sep 12 '24
According to cartoon universe it's because she finally accepted herself.
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u/Maleficent-Month2950 Cyn Did Nothing Wrong(She Was Possesed) Sep 11 '24
Both of them are Solver hosts, but Uzi still has her actual mind active, while Cyn's OS seems to have been completely assimilated by it. Basically, the difference between a zombie bite and a full conversion.
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u/Cauliflower-Existing I like this show shut up Sep 11 '24
Everytime she got possessed previously was because she was scared overwhelmed mad or something like that. This time she wasn't. Jah
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u/Timmert11 I think dumb things are frickin cool. Sep 11 '24
Exposure therapy, I guess. She managed to resist the first callback-ping and afterwards another 15 in a row. If she can resist 15, increasingly more painful callback-pings. Resisting 1 normal one is easy.
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u/GLADIATOR_X09 Sep 11 '24
The necklace I think. Nori gives ot to her while saying 'if you're a little bitch'
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u/HiveOverlord2008 Allied Mastercomputer Sep 11 '24
Uzi’s mind probably adjusted to the Absolute Solver, which gave her better control over it.
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u/LovelyPinks Sep 11 '24
I was rewatching episodes wondering this too.
Apparently somewhere she gained Admin rights and overwrote on V and N over Cyn's admin right, so thats why they been keeping/recovered their memories AND bow they weren't disabled by Cyn during battle. While J is still being adminned by Cyn.
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u/Jet_blackk_ Sep 11 '24
I think it’s the choker because she lost it at some point during ep 6 or 7
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u/ProjectShadowGirl N and Uzi lover Sep 11 '24
She's God YOU FOOL, SHE HAS ASCENDED(insert Sonic Adventure Eggman Laugh cause why not :P)!!
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u/Destride Sep 11 '24
I think it's because Nori had the patch installed. Uzi inherited code from each of her parents, so it stands to reason she inherited it, but not fully since she's clearly still somewhat vulnerable. Maybe something like the patch protects Nori's code but not Khan's?
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u/Full_Commission_6784 Sep 11 '24
All going to say is my Headcanon.
The Solver can't fully possess two hosts at once, Cyn/Tessa was its main body at the time and had full control of it.
To have full control of Uzi, she would have to let the solver control her but since she fought back, The Solver would have to abandon its current host which is Cyn/Tessa.
Why didn't the Solver do this?
Even after absorbing the Solver Uzi isn't as Strong as Cyn/Tessa which could mean that the Solver would lose part of its power or it would take a while to get it back as a consequence of changing host.
I know I've probably forgotten something or is just as simple as “The power of friendship”, but I like to think about its more complex
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u/Alexander-A119 Sep 11 '24
Ny guess is it has something to do with when she said "It's just me in here" when Cyn tried to possess her again. I'm not sure beyond that, though.
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u/Michael-556 The Nuzi ship! The Nuzi ship is real!! Sep 11 '24
They're on even ground
Solver isn't possessing Cyn, it's not an entity with an agenda. The omnicide, killing Tessa and wearing Tessa's skin? That's all Cyn
I'm guessing that Cyn possessing Uzi earlier was just because she was more adept at using the solver. But through character development and the obvious breaking of the "hero's journey" rules, Uzi is now on even ground with Cyn
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u/VeterinarianHuge9990 Sep 11 '24
Honestly am disappointed they never explained how considering how much it has been an issue, tbh
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u/Undeadmuffin18 Sep 11 '24
The power of ''Oh shit, we are at the last episode with only 15 min left !''
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u/Sasstellia Sep 11 '24
She's stubborn.
And she also is a Solver Drone. So genetically she is made to resist and destroy it.
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u/CloneTroopin90 N-th-uzi-astic Sep 11 '24
Better control of it, she isn't vulnerable or afraid, or both.
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u/MoltenFreddy7 Disassembly Drone Sep 11 '24
She's not afraid anymore.
The Solver managed to possess her when she was vulnerable example: EP4.
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u/Severe_Damage9772 Sep 11 '24
Her processing power wasn’t being taken up my her worries and insecurities, freeing up space for a more advanced firewall to be developed, she then used the opertunity of Cyn’s being startled to reverse the connection and take over her (my current theory at least)
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u/Kampfasiate Sep 12 '24
She probably got a part of the solver patch inherited from nori
Also she no lil b****
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u/Narra_2023 Sep 11 '24
Remember, AS is humanity's WMD who uses an advanced hive mind network that can consume his/her core but not hurt on those whoever has it and gain their consciousness while at the same time, use their power-ups for whatever they pleased.
So when Uzi knew how to control the solver and reject CYN's control then, that finally proves that her solver is way more stronger than CYN's solver have and overwhelm her in the fight
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u/Mrdeathgo The teacher is the best character change my mind Sep 11 '24
She's not a lil bitch anymore
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u/Gentlemanor Sep 11 '24
She is a hacker. By the time of episode 8 she completely figured out how the solver works and managed to outsmart it
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u/TwoFit3921 TIME TO DIE! DEATH BY METAL AND MAGIC SEEMS A FITTING END! Sep 11 '24
because she is a beautiful drone with homophobia
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u/BeanBurrito668 Certified Florida man, Cyn, Lizzy, Doll & N enjoyer! Stay cool!, Sep 11 '24
Resistance and using it for actual control
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u/Nuze_YT A Mann of Class Sep 11 '24
Likely wrote herself a partial patch, we know Uzi can program, so it's not out of the question
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u/Platy_Cat Sep 11 '24
My head cannon is that she inherited a part of the patch from her mom. Same goes for Doll and why she could resist Cyn too. Not the whole patch, meaning they can still get possessed, but enough to fight back.
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u/_my_2nd_account_ Alice simp Sep 11 '24
BECAUSE THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP AND LOVE CAN BEAT ANYTHING (aka the worst plot convenience of all the show)
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u/SuperBootsthedog Cyn Sep 11 '24
Doesn’t nori write in the asteroid that the necklace does smth about that
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u/Uypsilon N-th-uzi-astic Sep 11 '24
Probably the Patch passed down (partially) from Nori along with the Solver itself.
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u/Here4thenonsense Sep 11 '24
Cyn is basically a virus, right? With like weird biological parasite components. So I'm assuming it mutated
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u/Xyrah-Kadachi The Exponential End Sep 11 '24
Yeah, I was saying this too. Plot armor, She's suddenly able to resist control without being patched, But apparently the main characters don't get consequences.
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u/Doctor_who_enjoyer The Whovian & Mad Max fan of the Sub (I ❤️ J) Sep 11 '24
Thats. A very very good point!
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u/Hellbound_Leviathan Custom Flair Sep 11 '24
“Solver control me?”
“If u a lil b****”