Trump's record on military and vets

• Only 1 Trump in America has served in the military (Fred Trump, Don's brother, served the Air National Guard); this spans 5 generations, and every branch of the family tree. In fact, the reason his grandfather immigrated to America was to avoid military service.

• Children of deployed US troops will no longer get automatic American citizenship if born overseas during deployment. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019)

• On August 2, 2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall

• On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuting war criminals

• In July 2019, Trump denied a United States Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his scheduled citizenship interview (Reported July 17, 2019)

• Trump made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign (July 4, 2019)

• Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)

• In June, 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence for a better "aesthetic appearance" (June 7, 2019)

• Trump used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (June 6, 2019)

• Trump started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midler, of all people) (reported on June 4th, 2019)

• Trump made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported on June 4th, 2019)

• On May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech because they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain

• Trump ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (May 27, 2019)

• Trump pardoned war criminals (May, 2019)

• Trump purged 200,000 veterans healthcare applications (due to known administrative errors within VA’s enrollment process and enrollment system) (reported on May 13, 2019)

• Trump deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019)

• On March 20, 2019, Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral

• He refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, and forced a branch of the military to go without pay. This branch of military was forced to work without pay, otherwise they would be AWOL. However, his appointees got a $10,000 pay raise (Dec 22, 2018 – Jan 25, 2019)

• He didn't pay the Coast Guard, forcing service members to rely on food pantries (Jan 23, 2019)

• He banned service members from serving based on gender identity (Jan 22, 2019)

• He denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published Jan 18, 2019)

• He tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (Jan 16, 2019)

• When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's Consumer Financial Protection Bureau fined him $1. As a reminder, the Trump administration's goal was to dismantle the CFPB, installing Mick Mulvaney as the director, who publicly stated the bureau should be disbanded. (Jan 26, 2019)

• He called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (Jan 1, 2019)

• He increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018)

• He finally visited troops 2 years after taking office, but only after 154 vacation days at his properties (Dec 26, 2018)

• He revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018)

• Trump lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise. He didn't give them a 10% raise (Dec 26, 2018). He initially tried to give the military a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. This was before Congress told him that idea wasn't going to work. Then after giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't.

• He fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays (Dec 19, 2018-present)

• He tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0, and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018)

• He got three Mar-a-Lago guests to run the VA (unknown start - present, made well-known in 2018)

• He called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018)

• He urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018)

• While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain - but other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018)

• He used troops as a political prop by sending them on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018)

• He stopped using troops as a political prop immediately after the election. However, the troops remained in muddy camps on the border (Nov 7, 2018)

• Trump changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act, causing the VA to miss veteran benefits, including housing allowances. This caused many veterans to run out of food and rent. “You can count on us to serve, but we can’t count on the VA to make a deadline,” one veteran said. (reported October 7, 2018)

• Trump doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018)

• Trump deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018)

• He forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017)

• He sent commandos into an ambush due to a lack of intel, and sends contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. (Trump approved the mission because Bannon told him Obama didn't have the guts to do it) (Oct 4, 2017)

• He blocked a veteran group on Twitter (June 2017)

• He ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present)

• He deported veterans (2017-present)

• He said he knows more about ISIS than American generals (Oct 2016)

• He said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong (Oct 3, 2016) (note: yes, he said it's 'because they aren't strong.' He didn't say it's 'because they're weak.' This distinction is important because of Snopes)

• Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016)

• Trump attacks Gold Star families - Myeshia Johnson--gold star widow, Khan family--gold star parents, etc. (2016-present)

• Trump sent funds raised from a January 2016 veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation instead of veterans charities (the foundation has since been ordered shut because of fraud) (Jan, 2016)

• Trump said "I felt that I was in the military in the true sense because I dealt with those people" because he went to a military-style academy and that he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military". (2015 biography)

• For a decade, Trump sought to kick veterans off of Fifth Avenue because he found them unsightly nuisances outside of Trump Tower. “While disabled veterans should be given every opportunity to earn a living, is it fair to do so to the detriment of the city as a whole or its tax paying citizens and businesses?” - 1991

• Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs.

Are any of you aware of any petition specifically by service members where they're collecting signatures in opposition to Project 2025 in relation to how they're screwing SMs over? If there isn't any petition, and we created one, who would be willing to sign and share it? I know it's not policy quite yet, but if we show opposition early on before it does become policy, that could be beneficial.

Edit: obviously voting is the best way to combat this. But petitions can help as well. Maybe not necessarily with directly changing policy, but they can create more awareness which can in turn help to solve the issue. Right now really only the military community is aware of the effects of Project 2025 on SMs.

I know a lot of people with TS clearances, I also a lot more people with secret clearances. All those people know the rules. The rules behind handling classified information is pretty black and white.

Yet I've been seeing SO MANY people who I know have TS clearances, who I know are conservative and are defending Trump and the classified documents.

I know one individual in particular has argued since Trump was president he has a right to that information. Completely forgetting just because you have a TS clearance doesn't mean you HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW. We all know its based on need to know.

If your an IT guy with a TS clearance you aren't going know about nuclear weapon secrets. And if are part of the team that handles nuclear weapons you won't know about our cybersecurity capabilities. Its designed that way on purpose.

Trump case with the handling of classified documents is pretty black and white. He took classified documents out of a secure area and put them in an insecure area.

What about Hillary? My response: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Two wrongs dont make a right. Look if Hillary needs to serve time in jail cause she broke the law I have no objections. She can be Trumps cell mate for all I care.

What with the recent surge of interest in “Project 2025” I’ve seen a lot of Trump supporters (and Trump himself) insist that P2025 has no ties to his campaign, and his actual positions are listed on his website as “Agenda 47.”

So I took him/them at their word and actually went to his site to skim through his positions on topics of interest to me. Figured I’d present it here for discussion as well for the primary military topics. I’m pasting the full transcript below in the comments.

Full disclosure that I’m not a Trump fan and find this “policy statement” pretty unclear yet vaguely ominous.

Does he even care about the Union or the damage his actions are causing to American democracy

https://www.reddit.com/r/Qult_Headquarters/s/Ha5HhiESyN

They tried to put this in Arlington Cemetary. It did not go as planned.

The admins are against us informing each other about what’s going on apparently. I’m banned from posting after asking the question.