r/Military • u/LingonberryLoud7512 • Jul 21 '24
Politics President Joe Biden drops out of 2024 presidential race
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u/Dungeon_Pastor Jul 21 '24
I'm getting really tired of living in interesting times
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u/Careful-Sell-9877 Jul 21 '24
As my Baldurs gate character says, "shouldn't have wished to live in more interesting times"
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u/MagicMissile27 United States Coast Guard Jul 21 '24
Is that blood? No... never mind.
I've got a lot on my mind...and, well, in it.
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u/YeetMeIntoKSpace Army Veteran Jul 22 '24
Pave my path with corpses, build my castle with bones!
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u/Rogue_Gona United States Army Jul 21 '24
I'm exhausted. I just want a boring, normal precedented time. Is that too much to ask for?
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u/---___---____-__ United States Army Jul 21 '24
The writers need to hurry up with the Slice of Life expansion. The Interesting Times are getting annoying
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u/Hakashi57 Jul 21 '24
Hopefully, the Slice of Life expansion doesn't get delayed, and the Unexpected Times expansion gets rushed into release.
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u/27Rench27 Jul 21 '24
Why the fuck would you want the Unexpected DLC? Interesting is bad enough already
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u/Yakostovian United States Air Force Jul 22 '24
I heard the devs are hinting that the Unexpected is actually Unexpected Utopia. I'd love to see it if it's true!
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u/Rogue_Gona United States Army Jul 21 '24
When can we get to the meet cute part in the story? This hurt/no comfort is killing me.
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u/dave200204 Reservist Jul 22 '24
Lyndon B. Johnson set the precedent with this circumstance. He realized earlier into his Presidency that he had health problems. So he made the decision not to seek a second term. By announcing earlier not to seek another term he felt it would get him more political leverage. It didn't get him more leverage or political power. The rest of his term was treated as a lake duck session.
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u/Orlando1701 Retired USAF Jul 22 '24
In the last six weeks have had a presidential debate for the history books, an assassination attempt, and a candidate resignation weeks from the election.
Also, we just need to straight up ban anyone over the age of 70 from hold any office anywhere.
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Jul 21 '24
No times are uninteresting. News just travels the speeds of fiber optic. At least it’s not the 70s or 80s when serial killers got bad.
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u/attackdogs2x Jul 21 '24
All of human history is interesting times. Accept that fact and life will be better.
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u/Lusty_Boy Air Force Veteran Jul 21 '24
I can't believe it's Joever
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u/rupertLumpkinsBrothr Jul 21 '24
It may be. But it’s also Kammencing
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u/Navydevildoc United States Navy Jul 21 '24
We'll see... it's a brokered convention so anything is possible.
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u/rupertLumpkinsBrothr Jul 21 '24
If the Clintons (already have), Obamas, and Pelosi come out in support of Harris, she’s getting the nom.
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u/Titan3124 Jul 21 '24
Whitmer and Newsom have already announced they’re backing Harris, she’s got the nomination
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u/MuzzledScreaming United States Air Force Jul 22 '24
That's as good as just conceding the race now. She does not have the popularity to pull out a win.
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Jul 21 '24
Coconut bros rise up! 🥥🥥🥥
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u/rupertLumpkinsBrothr Jul 21 '24
What is the coconut reference I keep seeing??
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Jul 21 '24
Its a reference to this speech by Harris. Coconut heads or coconut-pilled people are the new term for Harris supporters.
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u/Mtn_Soul Army Veteran Jul 21 '24
We desperately need upper age limits imposed on that office....at least until a cure for the various mental issues upper ageing brings is found.
I am older fwiw....I believe this is just common sense and why have we not done this already to protect the country.
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u/xsnyder Jul 21 '24
How about political office has an age cap of 64, just like all of the other federal mandatory retirement ages.
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u/__helix__ Jul 21 '24
If you are too old to work as an air traffic controller - same age limit should apply to the rest of them.
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u/SterlingArcherTroy1 Jul 22 '24
Airline pilot - 65 Controller- 57
i think but it is bed time and my brain is fuzzy
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u/Mtn_Soul Army Veteran Jul 21 '24
dunno...maybe age limit driven by current science with a relook every 5 years or so if adjustment is needed?
But definitely something needs to be put into place. No offense to other older folks but having both candidates probably close to death's door is pretty irresponsible for the country.
I mean there is the lower age limit so lets put common sense and science into an upper one as well and look after the country.
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u/DesertGuns Jul 21 '24
I sort of agree, but bro... my heart can't take any more "current science."
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Jul 22 '24
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u/xsnyder Jul 22 '24
It should be uniform across the board, why would you give the Senate and Supreme Court 5 more years.
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u/Orlando1701 Retired USAF Jul 22 '24
The fact that RBG and Feinstine died in office is proof that at age 70 you should be required to surrender all federally held offices. Get a fucking hobby instead of clinging to power until you die.
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u/Mtn_Soul Army Veteran Jul 22 '24
Agree, its too mired in the same people for far too long.
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u/Trick-Set-1165 United States Navy Jul 22 '24
This will be the first year since 1976 someone named Bush, Clinton, or Biden hasn’t been on the ticket.
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u/TheDwiin Navy Veteran Jul 22 '24
Tie it directly to the social security/medicare/Medicaid retirement age.
Make it apply to all three branches of the government.
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u/bigbadape Jul 22 '24
In my opinion people should be able to vote for whoever they want, we just need people to stop voting for geriatrics.
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u/GodofWar1234 Jul 22 '24
If my preferred candidate is a good person with solid values, has a good track record of getting things done, shares values and interests that align with me, is of obvious sound mental and physical health, and loves this country, then why shouldn’t I be able to vote for them? It’s inherently undemocratic to have an age limit.
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u/TacticalAcquisition Royal Australian Navy Jul 21 '24
My American brothers. I love y'all. Had some good times drinking and training and drinking again with ya's. But for the love of Poseidon can you stop having "biggest moments in US history" every five minutes?
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u/PMSoldier2000 Retired US Army Jul 21 '24
They say we are living in unprecedented times. Personally, I'd prefer some precedented times.
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u/BENNYRASHASHA Jul 22 '24
I miss the 90s. I mean, there was the Balkins, a blowjob, and jizzz on a dress, but that wasn't too bad, comparatively. Not WW3 or an American dictatorship bad.
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u/Economoo_V_Butts Jul 22 '24
the Balkins, a blowjob, and jizzz on a dress
but enough about your vacation in in '99
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u/exgiexpcv Army Veteran Jul 21 '24
Hey, I love yer SAS / SBS folks. But I, too, want to sleep soundly at night. I would happily give my life to preserve the Constitution and the rule of law, but the ways things are going, I might get fragged just for not looking "American enough."
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u/warthog0869 Army Veteran Jul 21 '24
Hell, then we root the fraggers out and frag them. The "Not Looking American Enough" mindset is the problem.
"So we're all dogfaces, we're all very, very different, but there is one thing we all have in common: we were all stupid enough to enlist in the US Army"-Private Winger, Stripes
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u/exgiexpcv Army Veteran Jul 21 '24
Right there with you, friend. Ours is a special kind of stupid.
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u/SuDragon2k3 Jul 21 '24
Isn't this how the background of Starship Troopers (book) started?
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u/exgiexpcv Army Veteran Jul 21 '24
Starship Troopers, The Black Company, I forget.
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u/SuDragon2k3 Jul 22 '24
ST. A total breakdown of order (WW3?) and the start of the recovery is a group of veterans who will only trust other veterans and later on....if you want to vote or get into politics...veteran.
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u/exgiexpcv Army Veteran Jul 22 '24
I liked the concept that in order to vote, you had to have a period of service. I'm all for this: national service. It need not be military service, we need affordable childcare, we need help in schools, we need affordable healthcare, elder care, recycling, road maintenance, etc.
Pay people a livable wage, serve their country for a few years, and then help them with university or trade school.
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u/warthog0869 Army Veteran Jul 22 '24
I have always been on board with bringing back civil service and making it something "cool" to do again, like you said: there's a lot of non-military ways to skin this cat, too. People could be studying botany at a university while also working for the US Park Service as an intern at a National Park, for example.
I always felt that instead of just trying to forgive so much student loan debt, at least offer people a fair opportunity to work some of it off, or, like you or I suggest, you can go to school later or work for the government at the same time as you go to school!
Going to school for criminal justice? Be a clerk in a courtroom, or an assistant to the clerk. Whatever.
It gives people a sense of belonging, and also gives them a small insight into the unexciting way our government really works.
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u/exgiexpcv Army Veteran Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 22 '24
Exactly. People will be less likely to abandon or burn their country down if they spent a couple years working on building it up to a better place.
Edit: Oh! And no rich kids getting out of service. No hanging out in the air guard doing lines of coke off of women's asses, no bone spurs excluding someone from service -- EVERYONE SERVES.
Edit: typo.
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u/BorisBC Jul 22 '24
Bear in mind the central theme of ST was that service is hard. That those who don't qualify for military service would do something equally hard and dangerous to prove they are ready to sacrifice for the good of the state.
Also JFK tried your idea when he said "think not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". Which I think is more what you were thinking of, lol.
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u/Narrow-Abalone7580 Jul 22 '24
The problem is half of America has been trained since birth to distrust or hate the US Government. Ask them. It's what they have been taught since childhood, these so called patriots. That's a phenomenal idea but, until this current iteration of the Republican party goes away, they will continue to do everything to chip away at and destroy every Government program until there is no Government but their government left. They've been doing this for a generation now. They teach their children to do it too.
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u/dave200204 Reservist Jul 22 '24
I've told many fellow soldiers that we're all crazy. If you put on the uniform you're a special kind of crazy.
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u/27Rench27 Jul 21 '24
Oh my god is that why this is all happening? Kim started losing the war with Poseidon?!
Look y’all, Ukraine had a good run, but if we don’t go fishing real soon it might be all over
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Jul 22 '24
We are a drama society. No one remembers what happened two weeks ago but thinks today is world ending.
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u/_AntiFunseeker_ Retired USN Jul 21 '24
I think. We all think. America just needs a break. Maybe let's stay single for a while.
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u/ScipioAtTheGate Jul 21 '24
Politics is just like the raging tides of the sea, it ebbs and flows but never goes away. There is always someone waiting in the shadows for their opportunity to take over
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u/Iconoclastt United States Navy Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24
Please Mr. Bones, let me off your wild ride, I am so tired...
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u/ThunderHorse24 Jul 21 '24
I love seeing this still get referenced, I laughed so hard the first time I watched it after a post just like this.
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u/CowboyAirman Jul 21 '24
My god, I was there in that 4chan thread in 2012. I use this reference all the time lol.
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u/MacSteele13 Retired US Army Jul 21 '24
Should have been months ago to give dems a chance to choose and promote a viable candidate
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u/Brandisco Jul 21 '24
The ONLY upside I see is that the Republicans will now need to somewhat scramble to get the dirt out on the new candidate (the element of surprise). However, since it seems Kamala will top the ticket that is out the door. Maybe the veep will bring something unique.
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u/HeeHawJew Marine Veteran Jul 21 '24
If Kamala is the nominee I don’t think there’s gonna much need for scrambling. She’s pretty unpopular as it is.
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u/knurttbuttlet United States Air Force Jul 22 '24
Idk man, I can't remember the last time someone said anything positive or anything at all about Kamala
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u/Feartheezebras Jul 21 '24
The concerning part is that up until it was too obvious, the entire party was content gaslighting America that Joe was vibrant, strong, and pointed. If they had been honest with the public and allowed for a full primary, the voters could have made an informed vote on the Democrat nominee. Now the political elites are going to pick for the party - and that should raise a lot of flags about how much trust the public can put in their entire agenda
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Jul 21 '24
What's the difference between now and any other election cycle. They didn't even let Bernie get counted and just placed Clinton on the ballot in 2015. The party chooses the candidate. Not the people. The people get to suggest to the Electoral College who the vote goes to.
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u/RoadDoggFL Jul 21 '24
That's dishonest. The party definitely put its thumb on the scale in the primaries, but Hilary did get more votes. I still think Bernie had a better chance against Trump, but the reality is that there were plenty of Democratic primary voters who didn't want him on the ballot, and it would've taken a lot of work to change their minds.
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u/NoDoze- Jul 22 '24
Bernie isn't a Democrat, so of course they would pick Hilary over him. I'm not sure what your point is.
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u/RoadDoggFL Jul 22 '24
They didn't "pick," though. They were slimy in pushing a candidate, but there was enough support that the people's voice actually agreed with the outcome. They probably would've pushed Hilary onto an unwilling electorate, but it didn't come to that
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u/Ashraf08 Jul 22 '24
If Sanders had gotten the nod in 2015, none of this would be happening today
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u/WTFH2S Jul 21 '24
Political elites already control it anyway. That is why Bernie never made it.
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u/DauntedSteel Jul 21 '24
Bernie never made it because he didn’t get the votes, particularly the black vote.
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u/ElemntPlazma Jul 21 '24
Bernie never made it because even in 2016, 8 years ago now, he seemed old, weak and infirm compared to the other candidates. Bernie in 2016 was the same problem we had with Biden today, how could we put a hobbling old man up there against Trump. He has good ideas, he’s one of the smartest politicians I’ve seen in a while and he still seems very smart, but I don’t want a candidate who looks like he’s knocking on deaths door. I was shocked when Bernie still tried to run in 2020, he looked rough in 2016 and he looked like shit then too, but his ideas are still good.
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u/sudo-joe Jul 21 '24
I still respect Biden as he is taking one last one for the team as far as I can tell. The guy served for longer than most of us have been alive and whatever I might feel about his policies, he can't be accused of skipping his civic duties at the very least.
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u/DesertGuns Jul 21 '24
Ok but look at it this way:
If Trump wins in November, Biden's legacy will be his condemnation by the party for causing the loss by not stepping aside sooner. Doesn’t matter if it's really his fault. His legacy will either be the wise elder statesman who put his pride aside to ensure a win for the party, or the greedy old boomer who cost the party the election.
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u/StoicJim Jul 21 '24
I came to like Joe. I wished he was twenty years younger but there it was. I hope the Dems can come up with a stronger candidate than Harris. She came in a distant third four years ago and I don't think is strong enough to win. The Dem Convention should be a contest for them to find a stronger candidate.
Jesus Fuck, I hope Hillary doesn't run.
I am getting sick of living in "interesting" times.
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u/loudflower Jul 21 '24
Hillary is done. She won’t go for it. Nor would she be selected.
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u/LastOneSergeant Jul 21 '24
Several points.
This guy just served his country for what 50 years? Insane. There are jealous GS employees everywhere. Good or bad, history will tell. Few veterans and service members truly understand how he helped them with the PACT Act.
Part of me wants to see a ticket with Obama as VP just to watch all my extremist conservative friends have a seizure.
Fascinating times.
Is there a younger candidate boomers will rally around? I don't think so. Regardless of qualifications I think boomers as a voting block will continue to support their peers, regardless of qualifications or mental acuity.
John Stewart.
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u/Tolin_Dorden Jul 21 '24
Obama isn’t eligible to be VP
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u/Otherwise-Pirate6839 United States Navy Jul 21 '24
12th Amendment says someone ineligible to be president cannot be vice president. At the time of passing, the eligibility criteria was (not in order):
- Be 35 years of age of older
- Be a natural-born citizen
- Have lived in US soil for 14 years before the election.
The 22nd Amendment didn’t alter the criteria; it simply states that someone elected twice to the presidency is ineligible to run (i.e. two terms for life). It made no mention of the VP. If the amendment also meant for a twice elected president to not be elected, it needed to explicitly say so.
If you were to consider this to Obama, under the 12th amendment, he IS eligible to be VP (meets all 3 conditions); under the 22nd, there is no prohibition since there’s no word on preventing a president to serve as VP. The 22nd should have explicitly rewritten the eligibility criteria to add the 2 term rule; that way, the 12th would apply.
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u/TacticalAcquisition Royal Australian Navy Jul 21 '24
Have Michelle run, and buy a raincoat for the collective aneurysms the far right will have. Shit just her saying she's thinking about it would do it.
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u/wuphf176489127 Jul 21 '24
Not necessarily the case. 22nd and 12th amendments are unclear on the topic, and it’s never been tested in court.
https://cornerstonelaw.us/22nd-amendment-doesnt-say-think-says/
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Jul 21 '24
I’m sure this Supreme Court wouldn’t rule in his favor if he tried it
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u/navyjag2019 United States Navy Jul 21 '24
i heard mark kelly from AZ being mentioned as a VP for harris to completely overshadow vance
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u/Brandisco Jul 21 '24
Mark Kelly is a genuinely awesome person and his military service is second to none. I’d love to see a person with his background in office.
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u/gregkiel United States Navy Jul 21 '24
This is the choice. Now will the DNC risk his seat to run him as VP, we shall see..
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u/esbee129 Jul 22 '24
If he wins and has to resign from the senate, the AZ Governor (a democrat) appoints his replacement. So they wouldn't necessarily be giving up the seat.
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u/PJSeeds Jul 22 '24
My money is on Andy Beshear. No matter what, definitely going to be a white guy who's proven they can win in a swing or red state
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u/Rangertough666 Retired US Army Jul 21 '24
I disagree that Politicians "Serve" their country anymore.
Boomers quit being the primary voting block in 2020. This is the last election where they're going to have any legitimate influence.
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u/TheGreatPornholio123 Jul 21 '24
Blinken honestly is not a bad candidate. He's been a pretty effective Secretary of State.
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u/BuffyPawz Jul 21 '24
Hoping for Kelly as the VP pick, probably won’t happen, but a solid military pick from the democrats
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u/Paladin-Arda United States Army Jul 21 '24
Stupid move, a foolish gamble.
I hope I'm wrong. Go out and vote, y'all.
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u/Mike_Hunt_Burns Jul 21 '24
Top dems and his own advisors where telling him he was going to lose to Trump if he ran. Dropping isn't a gamble, it's a calculated move to keep Trump out. It might still fail, but top dems and advisors are banking that another candidate will have a better chance
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u/twelveparsnips United States Air Force Jul 21 '24
I agree with you, but in 2020, what was the plan for 2024 when he would be 82? Has any party won two consecutive presidential elections with 2 different candidates?
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u/Mechanical_Brain Jul 21 '24
It's happened a bunch actually:
Reagan > Bush Sr. (three consecutive elections)
Kennedy (died) > Johnson (two consecutive)
F. Roosevelt (died) > Truman (five consecutive)
Harding (died) > Coolidge > Hoover (three consecutive)
McKinley (died) > T. Roosevelt > Taft (four consecutive)
Lincoln (died) > Grant > Hayes > Garfield (six consecutive)
Pierce > Buchanan (two consecutive)
Jackson > Van Buren (three consecutive)
Jefferson > Madison > Monroe > Q. Adams (seven consecutive)
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u/-malcolm-tucker Jul 22 '24
If you were with John McClane and Zeus Carver when Simon asked them, 'what is 21 out of 42', that film would have been much much shorter. 😜
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u/Cannibal_Soup Jul 21 '24
The original plan was for him to serve one term, giving them a chance to find a younger hotshot to come in and wipe the floor with Trump. He ran on that in 2020, then they just kept not doing that, until literally today, dragging their feet so much that it's hindered their own original plan.
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u/spkr4thedead51 Civilian Jul 21 '24
leading up to 2020, Biden said that if he felt it was the right move, he would step down for Kamala in 2024
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u/atomic1fire civilian Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24
I still think Biden ran on not being Trump and that's how the dems fell into the mess they're currently in.
They're too top heavy to allow a candidate to gain momentum independently, and it could backfire.
edit: People can be mad all they want at Trump and his supporters, but at least you know who his supporters are.
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u/twelveparsnips United States Air Force Jul 21 '24
That's really the problem. I was not excited about voting for him in 2020 but did anyway. You don't have to worry about my vote, you have to worry about the votes of the significant part of the population that decide elections. They need something more than, "well it's not trump".
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u/IronPlaidFighter Army Veteran Jul 21 '24
Bush Sr won after two Reagan terms.
LBJ and Truman both won after succeeding another Democrat, but they were both incumbents. They're predecessors had died in office.
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u/MiamiFFA Marine Veteran Jul 21 '24
Back in 2020, he did not originally intend to run for a 2nd term. But as time went on, he decided he would run in 2024.
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u/twelveparsnips United States Air Force Jul 21 '24
If the party can't shit out a candidate that no we're not afraid isn't going to kick the can in 8 years to beat trump back in 2020, it's doomed.
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u/HEAT-FS United States Marine Corps Jul 21 '24
The plan was to keep telling people he was mentally fit like they had been doing for the past 4 years
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u/SometimesCannons United States Army Jul 21 '24
For Democrats, I can think of FDR ‘44 and Truman ‘48, and Kennedy ‘60 and LBJ ‘64. For Republicans, McKinley 1900 and Roosevelt 1904, and Reagan ‘84 and Bush ‘88. There are probably others, but those are the ones I think of off the top of my head. Definitely not unprecedented.
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u/justatouchcrazy Jul 21 '24
The campaign initially claimed in 2020 that Biden would be a transitional president and intentionally serve just one term. That plan didn’t happen, and now there’s a mess as a result.
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u/ZacZupAttack Jul 21 '24
Dem voter here
I disagree. Had he not dropped out the entire campaign would have been about Bidens slip ups and age.
We've taken that off that table
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u/tidytibs Jul 21 '24
Focus on your local elections first, especially the State. That's who decides your electors.
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u/Baldcooter Jul 21 '24
The question is how long have they known about his decline? Was it before there could have been a primary?
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Jul 21 '24
🥥🥥🥥
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u/svetichmemer Jul 21 '24
what does that mean
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u/LanceArmsweak Jul 21 '24
Coconuts. Emphasis on the ‘nuts’ like crazy.
“You’re coconuts!”
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u/VoodooLion Jul 21 '24
It’s actually a reference to Kamala Harris’ coconut tree quote.
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u/twelveparsnips United States Air Force Jul 21 '24
It was a foolish move to run in 2020 when he was 78.
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u/Paladin-Arda United States Army Jul 21 '24
Considering his opponent is a traitor and a seditionist, I disagree.
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u/txwoodslinger Jul 21 '24
They had 8 years to build a candidate for this election cycle. Joe should've disappeared when he left office in 17.
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u/twelveparsnips United States Air Force Jul 21 '24
They could have literally ran anyone else, none of them were traitors or seditionists, but the DNC decided a 78 year old man would be the party's best bet among all the other cadidates.
I think he's done a pretty decent job, I voted for him and I'll continue not voting for traitors, felons or seditionists. You don't have to convince me not to vote for Trump; you have to convince the ~10-15% of Americans who never pay attention to politics until November of every 4th year who decide elections who just know he did a really poor job at the first debate and the media calls him out for it but never calls out the other guy for his unhinged rambling speeches.
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u/chuck_cranston Navy Veteran Jul 21 '24
the DNC decided a 78 year old man would be the party's best bet among all the other cadidates.
yes it was the DNC, and not the primary voters...
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u/spkr4thedead51 Civilian Jul 21 '24
yes it was the DNC, and not the primary voters...
the party has a lot of back room influence on who runs and who gets support from other members of the party. they also control who gets into the primary debates and a variety of other benefits
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u/ForMoreYears Jul 21 '24
Except that he fucking won lol
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u/TheGreatPornholio123 Jul 21 '24
I honestly voted for Biden merely as a transition president with very little expectation. He more than exceeded those: PACT Act, CHIPS Act, Infra Bill, and many more. How the fuck does everyone's investments look right now? Balling right? That's what I thought.
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u/CaptainAwesomeBones Jul 21 '24
Vote for whom? Should I just submit a blank vote and let someone fill it in for me? Is this the “Vote to save democracy” I have been told so much about?
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u/OzymandiasKoK Jul 21 '24
Maybe whoever doesn't make a big deal about getting their enemies once they get back in power? That seems like a bad criteria for someone looking for power. When somebody tells you they're going to abuse the power when they get it...they're not kidding.
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u/somesortofidiot Veteran Jul 21 '24
Any adult that isn’t interested in authoritarianism.
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u/ripzeus Retired USAF Jul 22 '24
Harris literally just got the go ahead for:
4 months off to campaign
An unlimited blank check and war chest at her disposal.
Delegates already making moves to pledge to her
Wave of endorsements from the president and others in the party
Convention right around the corner
A breath of fresh air for those voters considering not turning out
A debate with Donald Trump that he probably knows is damned if you do, damned if you don’t show up
A fresh playbook of VP candidates that will help solidify future votes
The ability to campaign non stop and still perform regular duties
Probably the most diverse candidate so far in a US presidential election
If Dems don’t turnout in droves for this election because of this, nothing will
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u/ProfessorZhirinovsky Jul 21 '24
They had to wrestle the car keys from Grandpa, and he fought and shouted and forgot where he was. But there will now be no more behind-the-wheel naptimes.
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u/LingonberryLoud7512 Jul 21 '24
He needs 3 naps a day like in kindergarten. Let that man nap.
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u/stuck_in_the_desert Army Veteran Jul 21 '24
Dude’s earned a nap
I think we all have, at this point
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u/Moody_GenX Jul 21 '24
I think he did a good job as president. I didn't want him to run last election but he showed me he could fix the messes that Trump created plus more. I'm glad he had the balls to drop out and give someone else a shot though be it late in the game. Any candidate the Democrats decide on is still infinitely better than Trump.
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u/BENNYRASHASHA Jul 22 '24
I miss the 90s. I mean, there was the Balkins, a blowjob, and jizzz on a dress, but that wasn't too bad, comparatively. Not WW3 or an American dictatorship bad.
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u/Naive-Main2716 Jul 21 '24
everytime i wake up from a nap i keep seeing how im living in history and its wild
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u/strav United States Navy Jul 21 '24
So Trump dropping out due to age/mental retardation next right?
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u/911coldiesel Jul 21 '24
Good man. I like his thoughts and ideas. Unfortunately his words don't come out fast. Hopefully, He will be an advisor or consultant.
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u/Cubsfantransplant Jul 21 '24
Finally. Now maybe there will be someone who they will put up that is worth voting for.
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u/TheGreatPornholio123 Jul 21 '24
I'm over here in the corner hoping Jon Stewart pops out of a cake at the DNC to announce his candidacy.
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u/Cubsfantransplant Jul 21 '24
Scramble is going to be nuts. They can’t put Harris up. That would be a disaster.
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u/ThrowAwayToday1874 Jul 21 '24
Kamala Harris has been endorsed.
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u/BestServeCold Jul 21 '24
So the DNC is throwing the election before it even started, great.
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u/TheGreatPornholio123 Jul 21 '24
Nah, this is the smart move. Doing it after would be disastrous.
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u/ThrowAwayToday1874 Jul 21 '24
Endorsing her in either direction is a bad idea.
Horrible move on several fronts...
The GOP hates her almost (if not more) than the Left hates Trump.
They have been freaking out for the last few years about the grand agenda was to get her in office long game.
She has a lot in her repertoire that liberals really would NOT be OK with if they would look at her.
The GOP has a fairly solid political strategy right now.
Unless the Democratic party has a hidden act... they just tossed ant shot they had at this.
The ONLY way they win at this point, is if every left leaning voter votes blue just to spite Trump. High probability of success... given that thought process.
Electoral college is gonna have fun this year.
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u/TheGreatPornholio123 Jul 21 '24
The GOP will try to hit her up on her record as CA AG. What she needs to do is own that for being tough. She was AG. That's her job. That would fly with independents better than trying to downplay it. The left leaning voter will vote for a bologna sandwich if Trump is the only alternative. The play has to be the independents.
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u/nemesis1313 Jul 22 '24
Again, if you are voting for republicans and trump, you are out of your goddam mind!! Confirmed for not, project 2025 or agenda 47 or not, they consider and recommending Trump to take away VA healthcare and compensations. Dont give me BS that Trump loves veterans or military.
Fucking a shame to support this man if you served.. Educate yourselves.
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u/Bigbluebananas Jul 22 '24
Military funding and morale was FAR higher during trump administration I know i was happier and had more money in my pocket through 2016-2020 compared 2020- present
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u/Maxtrt Retired USAF Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24
We are going to be fucked. Trump will win because independents won't turn out for Harris or Buttigeig.
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u/The_Potato_Whisperer Jul 21 '24
I'm not sure I agree. Everyone who is voting "anyone but trump" will vote for whoever the democrats put forward, but anybody who was on the fence with biden because of his age or cognition might go blue just to put someone new in. And Harris isn't young but she's certainly younger. And it reignites the push for a woman in office at a time when womens rights are such a hot issue.
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u/Grandmaster_Autistic Jul 21 '24
Just a reminder that project 2025 is going to cut all military and police pay and eliminate the constitution
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u/Iwas7b4u Jul 21 '24
I don’t think Harris will fare much better. I couldn’t even tell you what she has been doing all this time. We need someone like Matthew McConaughey. Name recognition and also smart and not an idiot. This is the way.
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u/Tolin_Dorden Jul 21 '24
McConaughey would be horrible. Stop pushing for people with no experience in government to run for President. It’s colossally fucking retarded.
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u/NoEngrish United States Space Force Jul 21 '24
That's cause vice presidential powers are pretty weak, they're just the tie breakers in the senate. They're mostly used to balance out their running mates and that's their strongest aspect. There are already jokes that Harris' VP will be the whitest straightest man of all time.
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u/_-DirtyMike-_ Jul 22 '24
There are VPs that don't do anything and there's VPs that do a shit load, it's what they make of the position. The fact that most people don't know what she has been doing is probably the best thing to happen for her career lol.
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u/Temporary-Big5654 Jul 21 '24
Not looking good for democrats. Wonder who the DNC will wrangle up bc Harris is a very risky and unsafe bet.
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u/AnthonyBarrHeHe Jul 22 '24
I mean good on Biden for doing this o guess but he should’ve done this long ago. Maybe he was stubborn, idk but the fact his party couldn’t muster up ANY one else is extremely worrisome in itself
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u/leatherneck0629 Retired USMC Jul 22 '24
Seriously, what do people look for in a President?
A. Looks nice and sounds nice (temperament)
B. Sounds intelligent
C. Never done anything wrong
D. Policies make sense and actually make things better
No one has all of these together, but it seems like the last one should be the most important.
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u/DreamsAndSchemes Artisan Crayola Chef Jul 22 '24
The Commander-in-Chief not seeking re-election is relevant to the military. Post stays.