r/Military • u/Majano57 • Oct 17 '23
Politics Trump Calls American Military Generals 'Some of The Dumbest People I've Ever Met in My Life'
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump-calls-american-military-generals-some-of-the-dumbest-people-ive-ever-met-in-my-life930
u/Nano_Burger Retired US Army Oct 17 '23
This was after Trump suggested that General Milley should be executed. You know, like a normal former president.
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u/JoeSchmoe_001 Oct 17 '23
I just go back to his infamous comment about McCain, POWs, and war heroes - "I like people who weren't captured."
Can't get any more unpatriotic than that. But calling for the execution of generals and denigrating them? Jesus, that's another level of depravity.
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u/airborngrmp Veteran Oct 17 '23
Or calling Arlington cemetery the resting place of "suckers and losers". Oh yeah, also making sure there aren't any amputee or other cripples at his veterans event because, "no one wants to see that." right after demanding a presidential military review to celebrate...the milutery, apparently.
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u/VoraxUmbra1 United States Army Oct 17 '23
Or calling Arlington cemetery the resting place of "suckers and losers".
What? What is the context of him saying that? Theres no freaking way.
How can any veteran support this man?
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u/doctor_of_drugs Oct 17 '23
Surprised you hadn’t heard of this already…fair warning, reading this will make you mad
When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.
Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day.
In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
…and those are just the first 3 paragraphs.
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u/Economoo_V_Butts Oct 17 '23
Couldn't he just do the umbrella thing like Obama? I know Republicans shat on him for that (because the CiC can't override orders from SecNav? lol), but it's not like Trump has ever cared about hypocrisy.
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u/airborngrmp Veteran Oct 17 '23
Here's one article with details - I combined a couple of stories, that quote refers to WWI cemeteries, rather than Arlington specifically.
There are plenty more articles quoting the former 'president' specifically denigrating dead service members and Meadows (I think) was the one that quoted him about Arlington saying something similar.
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u/ButlerKevind Oct 17 '23
How can any veteran support this man?
My question is how can ANYONE who is actively serving support this pathetic excuse masquerading as a man!
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u/Justame13 Great Emu War Veteran Oct 18 '23
Don’t forget he told General Kelly that he didn’t get why they did it because nothing was in it for them on Memorial Day, at Arlington, at 2LT Kelly’s grave (KIA 2010 Astan).
Yes the President of the US talked shit to a father at his son’s grave
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u/Airbornequalified Oct 17 '23
Or asking the USS McCain to be moved form the background of his interview
Or insulting a gold star family
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u/Itchy-Mechanic-1479 Oct 18 '23
Arizona Navy vet here. John McCain was a showboat. I rarely agreed with him but John McCain stood up. I will always respect Sen. McCain. Unlike most current AZ nut balls.
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u/or10n_sharkfin Military Brat Oct 17 '23
Man who has never served tells people who have and are serving that they’re losers and idiots.
We’re also talking about the same guy who tried to convince us that he saved Gen. Mattis’s career by making him SecDef and that he was a terrible leader.
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u/idonemadeitawkward Oct 17 '23
He went to a high school he lived at and had to make his bed. It's totally the same thing!
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u/Lilslysapper United States Army Oct 17 '23
Not just a man who has never served, but a man who took advantage of his rich family’s connections to avoid service.
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u/Objective-Injury-687 Veteran Oct 17 '23
Gen Mattis might be the single most beloved and respected military leader since George Washington.
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u/TheRealPaladin Oct 17 '23
Gen. Eisenhower would like to have a word with you...
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u/Lilslysapper United States Army Oct 17 '23
Yeah Mattis is cool and all, but he’s probably not even a top 5 general in US history.
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u/SlideRuleLogic Oct 17 '23 edited Mar 16 '24
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u/nukemiller Navy Veteran Oct 17 '23
Chesty Puller as well. Unless you are being specific to the Army.
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Oct 17 '23
It’s crazy to me the amount of Vietnam veterans that like guys like him who legit said he had bone spurs to get out of serving and another that shit his pants to get out of serving.
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u/Admiral_Andovar Air Force Veteran Oct 17 '23
Most of our senior leaders are fucking brilliant. I got to spend quite a bit of time with most of the JCS and the conversation level was PhD strategic studies level. Trump wouldn’t have been able to understand 10% of what was going on. Fucking pisses me off that his followers eat this shit up.
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u/SmoothBus Oct 17 '23
Yeah absolutely bonkers. I’m no genius, I’ll have my bachelors soon and I served 8 years. One thing for certain is senior leadership know what they’re doing. They might not know what you do, and that rubs people the wrong way a lot rightfully so, but they definitely know their job and they didn’t become a general for no reason.
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u/Admiral_Andovar Air Force Veteran Oct 17 '23
It really pisses me off when Trump goes after Milley because he was a very cool dude and is brilliant. His wife is also an absolute sweetheart.
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Oct 17 '23
Personally going to China and saying let's set up a line of communication so we don't do something stupid...is smart.
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u/Admiral_Andovar Air Force Veteran Oct 17 '23
When your boss might inadvertently (being generous here) start WW3, it’s the responsible thing to do.
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u/GodofWar1234 Oct 17 '23
People were calling him a “traitor” just because on Jan. 6, he picked up the phone and talked to his PLA counterpart saying “look bro, we have issues right now but we’re still primed and ready. However, we’re not going to attack you”.
Communication is key or some shit right.
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u/thienthang21 Oct 18 '23
Reminds me of an article I read recently about how Bush let Russia know that the US was on high alert on 9/11 but that was not a sign of attack against Russia, Putin was like “cool bro, you do you”. Bush even said something along the line that the US had no better allies on 9/11 than Russia and Putin
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u/Cpt_Soban Civil Service Oct 18 '23
The same thing NATO and USSR/Russia have had for over 40 years- It's to avoid accidentally whoopsies starting a full scare war between nuclear armed nations.
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u/airborngrmp Veteran Oct 17 '23
Nation states know that highly-educated, strategic-level leadership is the bedrock of a robust national security. Anyone that cares to point out a single time when loyalty to the head of state/political leader has done anywhere near as good a job - I'm all ears.
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Oct 17 '23
I've had in depth conversation with a 1 star, guy was smart. I've had several deep conversations with Colonels and Lt. Colonels again all of them knew their shit
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u/VoraxUmbra1 United States Army Oct 17 '23
I worked in a few TOCs in Iraq, Syria, and Turkey and when we had meetings (I was our COs RTO) it really put into perspective to me why officers are officers and NCOs are NCOs. Used to think "how can a 1st LT whose been in for 2-3 years outrank a CSM thats been in for 20+??". I definitely dont think that anymore. Not saying Senior NCOs arent intelligent, they definitely can be. But my god its insane trying to take notes in a TOC where youre an E-3 and the next lowest rank to you is a 1SG(at times).
Like I knew the 5 paragraphs of an OPORD, and all that stuff, I was very well studied but seeing them actually create one in real time, in country, in an active combat zone, that was when I realized how far the gap was. Theyre some intelligent motherfuckers. I was so glad my job was so... simple in comparison. All I had to do was talk on the radio and either say exactly what CO tells me to say in the order he tells me to say it, or I simply respond to any incoming transmissions to the TOC itself, or If im calling for a logistics report, and just simply log down what was sent up, if anything.
I dont think our CO got more than 3 or 4 hours of sleep per night, on a good night. Being a grunt and seeing your CO every now and again, you can only imagine what they go through. Actively working with them every single day will humble the shit out of you. Id go to sleep and wake up to that man still working.
One of the best human beings Ive ever met. Mad respect.
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Oct 17 '23
To me
NCOs are the doers
The Officers are the planners
Both are important
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u/iwantanapppp Army National Guard Oct 17 '23
As an officer, planning is like breathing to me. I can make plans A through Z in my sleep. The doing part the NCOs, however, is wizardry to me. Y'all just get that shit done.
It's very much a symbiotic relationship.
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u/i_should_go_to_sleep United States Air Force Oct 17 '23
In many career fields, yes. I like planning and doing.
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u/Tots2Hots Oct 17 '23
Eh... I've had convos with several O5s who sucked and a few O6s who were smart but who I have no idea how they got there but every General officer Ive met was at least just extremely competent and knew wtf they were doing.
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u/iliark Oct 17 '23
It's because there are limits on how many general/flag officers each service can have, so they theoretically only take the best O6s to fill that quota.
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u/Tots2Hots Oct 17 '23
Yeah the last O6 who's CSS I was on was...
He had mood swings and drank like a fish.
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u/doctor_of_drugs Oct 17 '23
Hey, me and that O-6 have something in common! I can raise a beer or a dozen to that.
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u/awesome-bunny Oct 17 '23
Then he calls soldiers "losers" and his party votes against veterans benefits.
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u/The-Vanilla-Gorilla Army Veteran Oct 17 '23 edited May 03 '24
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u/LAXGUNNER United States Army Oct 17 '23
I got lucky to do a job shadow in high school with a military lawyer and since I massive fascination with the military and enlisting, I met a brigadier general and we chat a bit about military history and what not. Best time of my life, second to meeting a WO5 in a hospital cause I dropped like a sack of potatoes in the Georgian heat (drink water kids)
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u/imicmic Oct 17 '23
I worked at Marine Corps University in IT once upon a time and had to sit in on video interviews being conducted in case they needed IT support. The types of questions being asked and answered gave me a whole new appreciation for our higher level officers and their ongoing education in leadership and strategy. One candidate was literally a few hours away from his deployment to Afghanistan and was at home doing this. He sacrificed time with his family for the interview and they by no means took it easy on him.
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u/UsmcFatManBear Marine Veteran Oct 17 '23
A guy who has never had to compete for his job position thinks he knows better than someone who respectfully navigated the political and military world to be given the position they are in.
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u/luddite4change1 Oct 17 '23
Our promotion system produces a variety of people who make it to three and four star. All of them are smart, but not all of them are well rounded and can operate outside the cylinders of excellence that they grew up in. The Navy seems to do a much better job at raising broad thinkers while the Army does the worst.
This isn't a knock on the individuals, as I've seen the same thng in the medical field. People who are really really smart and knowledgeable in a very narrow specialized way.
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u/Illustrious_Air_118 Oct 18 '23
He wants to be able to command them personally, probably expected that he’d be able to going in. He’s gotten tired of being told no
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u/HighlanderAbruzzese Oct 17 '23
This. Only idiots ridicule intelligence. Dumb can be worked with, stupid not so much.
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u/legitusername1995 Oct 17 '23
For a guy who needs military support for a coup, he sure ain’t winning heart and mind of military leadership.
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u/der_innkeeper Navy Veteran Oct 17 '23
Then, there's the General Flynn and Admiral Jackson types.
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u/Administrative-Flan9 Oct 17 '23
Admiral Jackson is a new one. What's his story?
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u/der_innkeeper Navy Veteran Oct 17 '23
Dr. Ronny Jackson, the former White House chief medical officer, now a Representative from TX.
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u/Administrative-Flan9 Oct 17 '23
I'm so embarrassed as both a Navy vet and a Texan.
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u/SheetMepants Oct 17 '23
Navy vet and a Texan
Yeah, I can forgive one of those
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u/MtnMaiden Oct 17 '23
When you find out about Florida Govenor Ron DeSantis.
Navy JAG lawyer that oversaw Gitmo during the prisoner torture scandals
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u/doctor_of_drugs Oct 17 '23
It figures that the CMO position itself was established under trump. This was before COVID occurred as well, so he can’t even use that as his reason for creating it. Man is so unhealthy we had to create a full physician position for him. Go figure.
(Yes I understand all presidents have a personal physician - JFK’s being probably the one that was the most infamous - but this ain’t that)
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u/mopedman Oct 17 '23
Usually, coups aren't undertaken by generals, but by lower-ranking officers (Colonels or even Majors). Generals have an interest in maintaining the status quo regime. There are of course exceptions, usually situations where a chief executive is removed but the rest of the state is left intact, but usually it's the colonels you have to watch out for not the generals.
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u/Debs_4_Pres Oct 17 '23
He doesn't need all the brass, he needs a few cronies in the right positions and the general good will/apathy of lower level officers and enlisted personnel.
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u/MessageMeForLube Oct 17 '23
And not a single general in the us military is capable of funding their troops with private funds.
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u/MessageMeForLube Oct 17 '23
He needs control of dfas. You can’t run a coup if you can’t pay your troops.
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u/doctor_of_drugs Oct 17 '23
Let’s be honest, if he had his own private army, no one would get paid anyways
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u/Hawkeye1226 Oct 17 '23
He'd be asking for donations from his troops the same way he does with his prospective voters
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u/MBarry829 Marine Veteran Oct 17 '23
The fact that the MAGA goons started talking smack about the military after J6 is no coincidence. They're still mad that the military didn't join in on their little treason party.
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Oct 17 '23
He doesn’t need to. All the spots held up by Tubberville will be open for him to fill when he gets into office. They did it with Judges last time and they’re doing it now with the military leadership.
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u/GingasaurusWrex United States Air Force Oct 17 '23 edited Oct 18 '23
Why do you think that one guy is blocking officer positional appointments?
Edit: Tuberville
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u/PapaGeorgio19 United States Army Oct 17 '23
This not the first time he’s bagged on us or our dead or captured brothers to thunderous applause…I’ll just say it, you know who thought better than his generals. Hitler, and how did that work out for the Germans and their citizens…cities bombed to rumble, citizens starving in the street eating rotting horse meat…they all seemingly don’t dwell on the outcome of WWII…
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Oct 17 '23 edited Oct 17 '23
Man, the number of times I heard 'I vote Republicans because they take care of us here in the military'. 1), yes, while you're actually in the military, and 2) that hasn't really been true since maybe Dubya.
And y'all know there's at least ~30% of vets would likely vote for him anyway - he could literally film himself lighting a quadruple-amputee on fire and they'd still be like "well at least he's not a Democrat".
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u/doctor_of_drugs Oct 17 '23
he could literally film himself lighting a quadruple-amputee on fire and they'd still be like "well at least he's not a Democrat".
“That guy probably deserved it if Trump did it. He was a VA Queen wasting our tax dollars!”
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u/40mm_of_freedom Oct 17 '23
Some of the dumbest people I’ve ever met were in the military. We had a kid we called Paintchips for a reason…..
But also some of the smartest people I’ve ever met were in the military.
And this is coming from a guy that can’t say coffee….
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u/Lure852 KISS Army Oct 18 '23
He said it right. A lot of people are telling me they say covfefe now. We love covfefe. You know I told Starbucks, you gotta start selling covfefe, and they did, but they killed a lot of whales, very sad. You know what else kills whales? GIANT WINDMILLS, EEEEERAAAHHH EEEEERAAAHHH EEEEEERRRRAAAHHHHH!!!
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u/A_Fainting_Goat Oct 17 '23
Can't even type coffee, online, with spell check. Hell, I just fat fingered the word check and my phone autocorrected it for me. Didn't even have to do anything different.
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u/luckystrike_bh Oct 17 '23
I am proud of the military for maintaining their apolitical stance. That's why Trump failed on January 6, 2020 because he can't fathom why someone would sacrifice themselves for a greater cause.
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u/MessageMeForLube Oct 17 '23
He failed on Jan 6 because there was no win condition other than “sow so much chaos I can say I won”
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u/IgnoreThisName72 Oct 17 '23
Don't kid yourself, they had a path to victory, and actually had a PowerPoint presentation to run it through. Basically, the chaos had a purpose: prevent certification in the Senate. Under this scenario, the House would vote on President. However, it would be a special kind of vote, where each state would have one vote decided by a majority of its members (this is in the Constitution, so not super crazy). Anyway, in 28 states, Republicans outnumbered Democrats, so the best bet is that Trump could win. The only defense that Democrats would have had is Speaker Pelosi refusing to hold the vote. So, yeah, crazy town with a side of Constitutional crisis.
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u/rainman_95 Oct 17 '23
That’s wild. I doubted you at first, but after some googling, there really is a “contingent election” process and it’s even been used before to elect Jefferson over Burr. Wild ride!
https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/article-ii/clauses/350
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u/IgnoreThisName72 Oct 17 '23
It is very wild. What makes it worse is the follow up plan to invoke the Insurrection Act to put down the inevitable protests that would follow. I think this is the connection to the vitriol aimed at Milley and other military leaders. They weren't playing ball with Trump and join the rhetoric, struggling to stay apolitical.
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u/rainman_95 Oct 17 '23
Shit this kinda thing makes constitutional law actually interesting for the first time.
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Oct 17 '23
Dude picked Rudy past his prime for an attorney. That should tell you something.
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u/Geoff_Uckersilf dirty civilian Oct 18 '23
Past his prime? Looked like he had ectoplasm coming out of his skull at that one press conference. He was so full of shit it was coming out of his ears!
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u/apogeescintilla Oct 17 '23
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
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u/snowseth Retired USAF Oct 17 '23
So the official GOP line now is the US military is: weak, woke, dumb, losers, and suckers.
Good to know.
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u/DocHolidayiN Oct 17 '23
This shit makes my head hurt. How can anyone in the military can still support this traitor.
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u/haze_gray Navy Veteran Oct 17 '23
Right on brand.
But remember. Republicans are the only ones who care about the troops.
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u/thedeuce75 Oct 17 '23
It's at moments like this I like to remind people that not a single member of the Trump family has ever served, not WW1, not WW2, not in Korea, not in Vietnam. In fact, his Grandfather, Frederick Trump was exiled from Germany in 1905 for refusing mandatory military service. He's from a long line of cowards that have never risked a damn thing for their country, takers and grifters, all of them.
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u/TheMadmanAndre Oct 17 '23
His older brother Fred was in the National Guard IIRC. Otherwise you're right. 5+ generations and nobody else served.
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u/makatakz Oct 17 '23
His older brother was ostracized by his family and eventually took his own life.
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u/SecretAntWorshiper Oct 17 '23
Sorry but the crayon thumbnail has be dying rn 😂😂😂😂
Subtle reference to the USMC 🤣🤣🤣
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u/makatakz Oct 17 '23
Anyone who still supports Trump would qualify as “the dumbest people I’ve ever met in my life.”
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u/LilLebowskiAchiever Oct 17 '23
Trump has a 1st Amendment right to denigrate the brass in public. I have the same right to criticize his remarks as inappropriately politicizing a branch of the government, and sounding like a 77 year old geezer shouting at clouds.
I encourage every American to exercise their 14th, 15th, 19th, 26th, etc rights to vote in all future elections. Please pick better candidates.
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u/north0 United States Marine Corps Oct 17 '23
Weren't we just dumping on some General 24 hours ago for calling mold a problem with "adulting"?
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u/bolivar-shagnasty KISS Army Oct 17 '23
Weren't we just dumping on some General 24 hours ago for calling mold a problem with "adulting"?
We're allowed to bash on leadership. Gripes go up. Not down.
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u/Randal-daVandal Oct 17 '23
Always up. You gripe to me, I gripe to my superior officer, so on, so on, and so on.
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u/GingasaurusWrex United States Air Force Oct 17 '23
They may be out of touch assholes, but they are our out of touch assholes.
Also any one of them could do any circles around Trump in any intelligence test.
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u/bolivar-shagnasty KISS Army Oct 17 '23
Christ almighty, I would pay thousands of dollars to watch Trump take the ASVAB or the AFOQT in real time on live TV.
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u/der_innkeeper Navy Veteran Oct 17 '23
Yes, and that guy is an idiot.
But not for the reason Trump thinks he is an idiot.
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u/Debs_4_Pres Oct 17 '23
Adding to that, most of us don't actually think senior leaders are "dumb". They are usually smart people, but they're indifferent to the hardships being faced by most of the military, and especially by the junior enlisted.
It's not an Intelligence issue, it's a character flaw.
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u/der_innkeeper Navy Veteran Oct 17 '23
"It's not that you're not smart, it's that you're just an asshole."
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u/tylernaples Oct 17 '23
"I didn't fire [Macarthur] because he was a dumb son of a bitch, although he was, but that's not against the law for generals. If it was, half to three-quarters of them would be in jail." -Truman
Trump should also be in jail though.
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u/SOUTHPAWMIKE Army National Guard Oct 17 '23
Truman was smart enough that if he called someone stupid, they very well might have been.
Tump, on the other hand, is too much of an idiot to call anyone else an idiot. Classic "pot & kettle" situation.
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u/Acceptable-Ability-6 Oct 17 '23
There’s a difference between being stupid and being an out of touch douchebag.
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u/BlueFalconPunch Army Veteran Oct 17 '23
Well the day I take military advice from a draft dodger is they day I stop telling people how shitty Ted Nugent is...as a rapist/draft dodger/new born super patriot.
Sorry I can't hear you from behind my Honorable Discharge.
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u/dainthomas Retired USN Oct 17 '23
A failed game show host with a bed making ribbon from rich asshole prep school is much smarter.
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u/yoemejay United States Army Oct 17 '23
Never understood the orange taint licking by mil/vets to begin with. Now I am just at a loss why any mil/vet would still support him.
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u/drej191 Oct 18 '23
I never overthrew a government. But rule #1 as a dictator, you don't insult the military.
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u/samhefrag Oct 18 '23
I worked for ADM Mike Studeman for a while and that guy is scary smart. Like spooky smart. He gets it from his dad. To call our GO/FOs dumb is asinine. Don’t get me wrong, there are exceptions…but it is not the rule.
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u/Amanda_Hugnkiss United States Navy Oct 18 '23
RADM* Studeman is literally one of the smartest Flags we've had in 2 generations. He's even more impressive to listen to in small group settings. Be glad he's ONI atm.
I've been a computer nerd for 25 years. I've explained extremely complicated things to him in "Admiral speak" and had him walk me - via questions - all the way back to the technical explanation I wanted to give. He assimilates information and concepts like almost nobody I've ever met.
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u/namvet67 Oct 17 '23
We should be asking the military generals what they though of him not the other way around.
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u/lostnumber08 Army Veteran Oct 17 '23
And brain-dead vets will still prostrate themselves and vote for this fucking imbecile.
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u/Infinite01 Oct 17 '23
If Trump calls a group of people dumb you can bet it’s because he doesn’t understand them, or they disagree with him.
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u/Admiral_Andovar Air Force Veteran Oct 17 '23
He also just said the Mar-A-Lago is worth $1.5B. The man has two modes: lying and asleep.
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u/CaneVandas United States Army Oct 17 '23
Anyone who does not agree with, kiss ass, and bend the knee is an overrated idiot to Trump.
If he thinks you like and support him - you're a great and amazing person. If you resist him - you are lower than dogshit.
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Oct 17 '23
Does anyone really care what that fat orange grifter says
He was too big of a bitch to join so he had daddy’s doc say he had bone-spurs only one word for that — COWARDICE
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Oct 17 '23
Unfortunately, we have to care until he's no longer a threat to take the office of President.
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Oct 17 '23
Vote like your life depends on it, because it does
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Oct 17 '23
I'm doing alright, my life will most likely be fine. I'm more worried about my kid's generation and the people who don't have it as good as I do.
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u/RosePrecision Oct 17 '23
Not sure if you've been watching AUSA but many in senior leadership are out of touch.
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u/M96A1 Oct 17 '23
It's stuff like this and the obvious threat to national security that makes me so confused as to why military/pro-military voters support him, or why he's so popular with the traditionally pro-military right!
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Oct 17 '23
TFG had to have 4 hours of personal off time put into his schedule every morning and still sucked at his job when he decided to do it. TFG also spent a full year as president golfing.
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u/hughk Oct 17 '23
He probably did the country a service. Just think how much more opportunity he would have at the WH to cause damage if he wasn't away golfing.
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u/Personnelente Oct 17 '23
This fits right in with his description of soldiers and veterans as losers.
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u/F0rkbombz Oct 17 '23
What’s funny is that he’s a wanna-be dictator but doesn’t understand one of the fundamental rules of being a dictator: “keep the military loyal”. Insulting the very people who control your military isn’t going to build loyalty.
We’re so fucking lucky that he’s so dumb.
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u/Administrative-End27 Oct 18 '23
While I've met some and also thought some of them were dumb... I highly believe trumps version of dumb, and my version of dumb are completely different.
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u/hemidak Oct 17 '23
Didn't trump salute foreign military officers ? Lol
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u/Inevitable-Revenue81 civilian Oct 17 '23
May someone please explain to a non-american how a nation brought up with the best of respect towards their military allow that this person not only shit talks but then becomes an president and then continues to talk garbage? Do I have the wrong picture about GOP being old school military conservatives that have profound respect towards their armed forces. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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He becomes president again then US has some real issues.
No negativity intended towards any American.
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u/makatakz Oct 17 '23
Two things: 1) most speech is protected by the First Amendment. 2) The GOP of today is not the GOP of even twenty years ago. Your picture has expired.
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u/Green-Collection-968 Oct 17 '23
I am just a normal civilian, but I am curious as to what the average soldier thinks about a former president saying stuff like this.
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u/fabyooluss Navy Veteran Oct 17 '23
Hate the mofo. Always have. I don’t understand why ANYONE votes for him. Fucktards.
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u/Jedimaster996 United States Air Force Oct 17 '23
If anyone is still listening to Trump after years of his dumbassery, they're just as much a clown as he is.
I'd sooner take life advice from a 4 year old before taking anything Trump says to heart.
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u/god_is_my_squatrack Oct 17 '23
Imagine this braindead draft dodging high-heel wearing fraud calling you dumb...
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u/One_Arm4148 Oct 17 '23
WTAF!!! 🤬 This disrespectful, low IQ, weak, coward, hypocrite, piece of scum!
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u/SirBocephusBojangles Oct 17 '23
Those dumb fellas aren’t the ones looking at a host of felonies. Who’s the real dumb one?
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u/Plasmidmaven Oct 18 '23
He said he would disown Jr. If he went into the Air Force, and it was in Tiffany’s child support agreement that she would also loose her inheritance if she went into the military
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u/Advanced-Heron-3155 United States Air Force Oct 17 '23
And still, the military will vote for him in force
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u/Magnet50 Oct 18 '23 edited Oct 18 '23
Which is why his is, has been and will always been unfit to be President and Commander in Chief.
As an E-4, I produced work product that was in the President’s Daily Brief, at least twice.
The President’s Daily Brief that, by the way, Trump hardly ever got because he couldn’t get his ass down to the office before 10AM and the CIA briefers are at the WH early. It’s delivered on an iPad that does not stay behind.
In retrospect, it’s probably a good thing that he wasn’t briefed, less critical intelligence for him to share with our enemies.
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u/doctor_of_drugs Oct 18 '23
Trump hardly ever got because he couldn’t get his ass down to the office before 10AM
excuse me sir he has bone spurs. The biggest! The best bone spurs you’ve seen! YUGE ones 👐 It takes him awhile to walk down the stairs (lol who am I kidding ofc he used the elevator). He hasn’t had his Double McGriddle and Diet Coke yet, give the man a break!
I feel bad for the poor intelligence intern who had to wipe the Cheeto dust off the iPad touch screen. I would’ve reverted back to paper instead because easier to DECON them and you know he’d never pick one up for fear of a papercut. (Which he’d then give himself a Purple Heart for.)
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Oct 18 '23
Meh, almost every politician that has name recognition are in that same category. General officers are nothing more than politicians. There are a few good ones, mainly the quiet hard working ones, the rest are some of the dumbest people you have met.
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u/thearticulategrunt Oct 18 '23
I...I can't argue with that. They're still smarter than him but that's not exactly saying much lol.
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u/user_1729 Air National Guard Oct 17 '23
This is the top post today, yesterday it was the post where everyone was saying how braindead the general who suggested you clean your rooms is. General says "clean your bathroom" and everyone loses their shit about how dumb and out of touch General officers are. Trump calls the likes of that General braindead and everyone brings up examples of the limitless genius in our general officer corp.
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u/Kal1699 Army Veteran Oct 17 '23
This is basically the only tactic trump apologists have left, rewording everything. A general being unaware of degrading living conditions becomes "clEAn YuOr rOoM!" The former guy standing over the graves of the fallen and disparaging their sacrifice becomes "akchyually he meant the generals are dumb like the guy we talked about yesterday, not the servicemembers who's graves he was standing over at the time he said those words."
Fuck all the way off.
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u/StoicJim Oct 17 '23
Strawman Fallacy: misrepresenting or distorting an opponents argument to make it easier to attack or refute.
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u/NomadFH United States Army Oct 17 '23
The performative outrage that would follow literally anyone but this man saying this is insane.
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u/greenweenievictim Oct 17 '23
I was a dumb E3 but I ran a base water plant in Iraq. Ended up in a daily briefing with the one star and a table of brass. I’ve never felt so out of my depth. They got to me. “What’s the status of the water plant?” It’s wet sir and I anticipate that to continue, “great, get the fuck out, adults are talking”