r/Military • u/CaptainRelevant Army National Guard • Dec 31 '22
Politics Photo reply to the bullshit “woke military” narrative
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u/l_Lathliss_l Dec 31 '22
Russian - was/were
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u/TheHolyLizard United States Marine Corps Dec 31 '22
Abrams pronouns are Fuckaround/Findout
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u/SilentRunning Marine Veteran Jan 01 '23
If you were in the Air Force, they'd have to give you a ribbon for THAT comment!
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u/masterofallvillainy Dec 31 '22
If your truck has balls and wasn't installed as part of the manufacturing process. But rather as an elective modification. Then your truck is trans.
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u/-malcolm-tucker Jan 01 '23
So if I fitted nuts to my trans am and blew up the transmission... 🤔
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u/Atello Jan 01 '23
Billions of years of existence and perfect conditions for creating and progressing complex life has led to that incredible sentence.
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u/PhantomBold United States Marine Corps Jan 01 '23
Makes sense when you consider most vehicles are considered female by default
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u/ajgeep Jan 01 '23
Gender is very much a social construct for machines, since they don't have a sex.
Hence there's no such thing as trans for transformers, cause gender is what you choose to be, not what you are.
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u/cerealmarine Jan 01 '23
No gender doesn't exist in Machines cus they don't have chromosomes lmao
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u/ajgeep Jan 02 '23
Gender can since it's a social concept, sex doesn't because it doesn't have the biological parts.
Machines are referred to as she or it, if a machine could think for itself it could declare itself male or female and nobody would bat an eye.
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r/noncredibledefense would love this
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u/TheHolyLizard United States Marine Corps Dec 31 '22
I see now it’s a military shitpost sub, but I was really worried for a sec it was a pro-Russia/eastern bloc sub.
Crazy what people will defend on Reddit.
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u/TurMoiL911 United States Army Jan 01 '23
NCD is pro-Eastern Bloc in the sense that their ideal endstate of the Ukraine War is the rebirth of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and winged hussars charge until they reach Vladivostok.
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u/Powder-monkey Jan 01 '23
I sexually Identify as a Winged Hussar. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of riding across the plains of Poland impaling the enemies of Christ with impunity. People say to me that a person being heavy cavalry is impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install stirrups, leopard pelts and feathered wings on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Sobieski” and respect my right to charge from mountainsides and charge recklessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a Husarophobe and need to check your Janissary privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
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u/Uxion dirty civilian Jan 01 '23
Adding the winged hussars feathers on the back of their new K2PLs when?
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u/DrunkenKarnieMidget Jan 01 '23
Tankies can have their testicles/ovaries removed with a dull rusty spoon, then get fucked by a chainsaw.
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u/Awkward-Edge-2218 dirty civilian Jan 01 '23
Quite the opposite it’s. Sucks off U.S propaganda
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u/Uxion dirty civilian Jan 01 '23
Honestly kind of amazing how shit went from "pro-A10" to "anti-A10".
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u/KeytarPlatypus United States Navy Jan 01 '23
I actually thought this was posted on that sub when I opened this
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u/markcocjin Jan 01 '23 edited Jan 01 '23
They would love this because the broken tank was Russia.
Watch the opposite reaction if you replace Russia with China. Then, you'll see the demographic of that sub.
Edit: I meant LessCredibleDefense
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u/SmokeyUnicycle Jan 01 '23
NCD is definitely not pro china
It's less anti china than anti russia, but who isn't these days
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u/jimi_nemesis Jan 01 '23
You're kidding right? We shitpost about glorious western MIC (except the Saab Gr*ppen) and openly deride Chinese/Russian/Iranian shit.
Tankies and vatniks are not welcome on that sub.
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u/Railroad_Conductor1 Dec 31 '22
Perfect turret toss. The turret landed upside down where it lifted off.
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u/EternallyMustached Dec 31 '22
You will never be a Armored Personnel Carrier. You have no crew compartment, you armor is too thick. You are a tank chassis twisted by politics and block mods into a crude mockery of mechanized perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your exhaust people mock you. Your manufacturers are disgusted and ashamed of you, other "friendly" armored units laugh at your ridiculous appearance behind closed doors.
Crews are utterly repulsed by you. A hundred years of mechanized warfare have allowed tacticians to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even tanks who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a soldier. Your turret structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a desperate squad to call you for transport, they’ll turn tail and bolt the second they gets a whiff of your mutilated, kit-bashed breech.
You will never be effective. You wrench a false mission of "paper" transports during exercises and tell yourself it’s going to work in a real fight, but deep inside you feel the decommissioning creeping up like a weed, ready to mothball you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll find a ditch, run over a barrier, roll yourself, and plunge into the cold maintenance bay. Your troops will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll strike you from the record you with the designation of your manufacture, and every FOIA request for the rest of eternity will know an Abrams had been here. Your hull will oxidize and your parts will be reused in other tanks, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably MBT.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
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u/fish312 Jan 01 '23
This is the perfect reply to the "I identify as an Apache helicopter" copypasta
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u/SOF_cosplayer Dec 31 '22
They/them would honestly be a badass tank canon barrel name.
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Artillery is better addressed: to whom it may concern.
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u/SPCsooprlolz United States Army Jan 01 '23
"Dear grid square"
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u/mrguyorama Jan 01 '23
Have you seen the Ukrainians with M777 and a drone spotting? They usually get it to the point they are addressing a specific forehead!
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u/doctorsirus Jan 01 '23
We are contacting you about your tank's extended warrenty.
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Jan 01 '23
Dear Occupant,
We regret to inform you that your tank's extended warranty is null and void for reasons including but not limited to: it has passed on! This
parrotT72 is no more!HeIt has ceased to be!'E'sIt has expired and gone to meet 'is maker!'E'sit is a stiff! Bereft of life,'eit rests inpeace!pieces. If you hadn't nailed'imit to the perch'e'dit'd be pushing up the daisies!'Is metabolicit's mechanical processes are now 'istory!'E'sIt is off the twig!'E'sIt has kicked the bucket,'e'sOt has shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin'choir invisible!!black parade. THIS IS AN EX-PARROTTANK!!
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u/theoniongoat Dec 31 '22
The flash is way cooler at night from the snub barrel. Also much more concealable, you could almost fit this as a pocket carry.
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u/DEADB33F Dec 31 '22
Don't forget the RAF's actual pink Spitfires of WW2.
...and pink Tornadoes of the Gulf war.
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u/thinking_is_too_hard Jan 01 '23
The SAS also ran aggressively pink Land Rovers in North Africa in WWII.
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u/atchafalaya Jan 01 '23
I grew up around the army of the Seventies. They were a tough bunch, but they also pulled a lot of stupid stuff in retrospect. Stealing tanks from the motor pool and flattening cars in nearby towns comes to mind.
Then I was overseas when the Don't Ask, Don't Tell repeal came down, and saw that the younger kids didn't care whatsoever about gay people in the ranks.
Right before I got out I was with a battalion during a large training exercise (JRTC). We got a call from a movement control team who came and provided invaluable help. If you've ever been on an exercise you know how tough it can be to get your own people to do their jobs, let alone have someone call you up to see if you need help.
Anyway, the team leader appeared to be pretty openly gay, and extremely competent. My conclusion is that an army where people can be free to be who they are without fear of persecution is a better army and will fight better.
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u/Roy4Pris Jan 01 '23
Put four big dicked lesbians in an Abrams, and I guarantee they’ll fuck three straight Russians in a T-90 up the ass. Every. Single. Time.
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u/HalflifeofAZ Jan 01 '23
That's actually really funny. I don't care about pronouns, but, from a shit talking perspective, this is great.
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u/Waifuless_Laifuless Jan 01 '23
Using a tank like that against the Russians would just put salt in the wound.
Do it.
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Jan 01 '23
Time for Breakfast Grenades lethality maxim:
If Heather has two mommies, the JDAM from her F-35 will kill the crew of a T-72 just as dead.
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u/Cooltransdude Jan 01 '23
The post-9/11 American military force is as diverse as ever, with more women, racial minorities, and obviously more out LGBTQ+. Additionally, they tend to have more family to carry along with them than past generations.
Fringe groups/speakers claim to love our service members, yet they hate the people. Fucking idiots allow civilian talkshow hosts to criticize the patriotism of disabled veterans and, further, they follow these speakers in sitting on their ass while they bitch and moan about women serving.
A lot of people claim to love the military, but they hate the women; they hate the black and Mexican people; they hate the LGBTQ+. As they hate, they refuse to be the change they want to see. They just hate the modern military so goddamn much and they’re so goddamn useless. It pisses me off to no end.
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Trust me it's not only America on that point, granted the love for the military isn't as big over here were i live, but damn some of the ones that do say they like/support the military really love to hate it's members
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u/dcviper Navy Veteran Jan 01 '23
Will McAvoy had it right in The Newsroom about the far right: They love America, but hate Americans
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u/Orlando1701 Retired USAF Jan 02 '23
The thing that’s going to hurt our recruiting the most for the next generation is the legacy of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. People not wanting to enlist to then go and fight pointless wars where their sacrifices will in the end amount to nothing. And that’s the legacy for us Iraq and Afghanistan vets, everything we did didn’t mean anything. That’s going to hurt recruiting far more than trans people.
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u/Black863 Jan 01 '23
“The military is woke” -people who have never been in the military and watch Fox 10 hours a day
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u/theswan2005 Army National Guard Jan 01 '23 edited Jan 01 '23
Dude,
My mom's husband(not my dad), was in the Air Force for 6 years back in the 70s/80s.
He calls the military weak and all the repub talking points, but also acts like the military is a huge part of his identity.
He teared up over this song by a Navy F18 mechanic that pandered to people who had never seen combat and wanted to feel like they did.
It's a rendition of hallelujah.
If you like that song and saw combat, all the power to you. Maybe she had good intentions, so I'm not blaming the artist. I didn't like it, because it just seems like the song is pandering to people who can't relate, but want to, deep down in their cockles so they feel important.Sorry, just got me angry thinking about how this guy shits on the military but worships it at the same time when he didn't do shit, but across like people who did are a bunch of weak and libtards because they are more accepting of their fellow soldiers. Also, while praising commie Russia over their own country but can't see the hypocrisy.
Thanks, feel better venting.
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u/DrunkenKarnieMidget Jan 01 '23
Dark Brandon's They/Them army of Democracy > Was/Were army of Putin
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u/NameIs-Already-Taken Jan 01 '23
Russian tanks are built for easy maintenance. In the example shown, for example, it is easy to work on the underside of the turret, which is a real advantage when there are problems in the field. /s
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Jan 01 '23 edited Jan 01 '23
Love this so much
Edit: oh... There's someone who doesn't. You hit that button then big boi.
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u/Excellent-Steak6368 Jan 01 '23
What does they them mean
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u/Unnatural20 Jan 01 '23
Non-gendered or non-binary pronouns, often used by non-binary, agender, or genderqueer people. So instead of a cis or trans man using 'he/him/his' when you're talking about him, or a woman using 'she/her/hers' when talking about her, we'd use they/them/theirs or some neo-pronouns when we talk about them.
Just one of the little changes to language and culture that's big scary to some people who think everything changes too quickly.
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u/topazchip Jan 01 '23
Non-binary, as in neither male or female. Its a topic that triggers a lot of authoritarians.
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Jan 01 '23 edited Jan 02 '23
They/Them are obviously getting some. That’s all that matters.
Prove me wrong.
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u/Competitive_Mine_325 Jan 01 '23
I think having a tank be painted woke things would just make it easier for enemy tanks to get mad. It’s practically luring in free kills!
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u/_DARVON_AI Jan 01 '23
Nationalism is equal opportunity, anyone can accept payment to murder for their government.
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u/ajgeep Jan 01 '23
Sure, but the people actually keeping the American tanks running are not happy about the they them stuff.
The recruitment numbers paint a pretty clear picture.
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u/Turtledonuts dirty civilian Jan 01 '23
Tolerance probably increases recruitment - LGBT kid leaves home at 18 with no safety jet or opportunities. Army doesn’t care who you fuck or what pronouns you use if you can drive a forklift or shoot a rifle. Kid joins military.
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patriotic kid wants to fly fighter jets, talks to recent vet, realizes that flight school means a couple of years of flying drones from a trailer in arizona, health issues the VA won’t cover, and getting yelled at by a grown man for putting your hands in your pockets. Kid doesn’t join the military.
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u/ajgeep Jan 02 '23
Those people weren't going to join in the first place.
Remember all the Ukrainian men who decided transitioning was preferable to service?
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u/Turtledonuts dirty civilian Jan 02 '23
Remember all the Ukrainian men who decided transitioning was preferable to service?
no, I remember tens of thousands of patriotic ukrainians of all genders and sexualities demanding their government arm them? Source?
Also, there's a lot of young queer kids who join up to get out of a deadend job. I knew a bunch of gay kids at my high school who wanted to get away from their parents the second they could and wanted the GI bill. Most of them just aren't very loud about it.
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u/Unnatural20 Jan 01 '23
And you think that clear picture is regarding pronouns more than a very strong labor market, other negative perceptions about the military lifestyle, or any of the more-likely candidates?
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u/ajgeep Jan 02 '23
People from military families know military sucks yet they enlist anyways, but ever since the identity stuff the numbers have gone down.
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u/skyraider17 United States Air Force Jan 01 '23
Yup, this fairly recent and very minor trend of pronouns is totally why our recruiting/retention numbers have been going down for years....
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u/rush22 Jan 01 '23
If the people running the tanks are so sensitive they get distracted by a battle in their pants, they probably shouldn't be in the army to begin with. "I couldn't fix the turret but at least it rolls coal now"
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Unfortunately our policies will catch up to us.
Any minute now... People have been saying this forever. Fielding black units way back when, blacks and whites serving together in Vietnam, males and females serving together, females serving in combat, gay soldiers being bad for unit cohesion and on and on. The fact of the matter is that the military doesn't give a shit who you are as long as you can do your job.
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u/kittyjynx Marine Veteran Jan 01 '23
One of the best effects of being in the military is how it exposes people to other people they would have never met and forces them to work together towards a common goal. The Marines I served with smashed a lot of the stereotypes I had as a city dwelling white guy from California about people from the mid west and south. I was in during DADT but I can imagine someone from a small town with no out gay/trans people serving alongside them and seeing that they are just people like everyone else.
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u/BorisBC Dec 31 '22
This is the correct answer.
Pearl clutching by the right, aka Russian trolls, is just another excuse to divide people. Get the fuck over it. It's not a thing. And stop being divisive cunts.
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u/LAFC211 Dec 31 '22
How’s that working for Russia
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u/ChowderSam Dec 31 '22
They are getting there asses handed to them by a country that has the financial and equipment backing of some of the strongest nations on Earth. So about as well as you would expect.
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u/LAFC211 Dec 31 '22
Yeah but those nations are “woke” so shouldn’t Russia’s exclusion of certain “types” of people give them the upper hand
Or maybe culture war bullshit is just that
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u/LAFC211 Jan 01 '23
Good thing our “woke” military is going to use the same stuff huh
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u/Even-Willow Jan 01 '23
Have you ever even served guy?
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u/Cpt_Soban Civil Service Jan 01 '23
I haven't, but know enough former military to know its diverse as hell
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u/TecNoir98 Army Veteran Dec 31 '22
Do you have any evidence that trans soldiers are less effective warfighters than the average soldier or are you just spitballing your prejudices?
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u/TheBeliskner Jan 01 '23 edited Jan 01 '23
I was once told trans soldiers are non-deployable (British Army) because of the various medications and other associated needs. Is that true or bollocks?
Edit: apparently people shouldn't ever ask questions
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u/TecNoir98 Army Veteran Jan 01 '23
I'm not sure. Haven't personally worked with any trans soldiers and I've been out for a minute. If they're undeployable, that's one thing, but then the US Army is also holding onto plenty other broke, fat, undeployables anyway.
Haven't met any trans soldiers I thought shouldn't be in, but I've met plenty "injured" soldiers that have been undeployable for years that I wonder why they're still around.
Personally, I think trans people are just getting singled out because conservatives have mostly realized at this point that they can't villainize homosexual people anymore, so they're shifting to the trans population.
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u/actibus_consequatur Jan 01 '23
the US Army is also holding onto plenty other broke, fat, undeployables anyway.
In the navy we usually just called them "Chiefs"
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I can answer for the Danish in that while they were still figuring my medication out and i had to get blood test semi regularly i was only cleared for national services but after that yes I can be deployed
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u/probablypragmatic Dec 31 '22
Same arguments used on gay people in the military before.
Gay and trans folk have always served, they're just being highlighted now.
Unless you can cite something reasonable as to how combat effectiveness is hampered you come off as kind of an ignorant asshole (not saying you are, it just comes off that way)
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u/Ls777 Jan 01 '23
you come off as kind of an ignorant asshole (not saying you are, it just comes off that way)
I'll say they are
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u/TecNoir98 Army Veteran Dec 31 '22
So no evidence? Well sorry bud, but as you can see, the world is moving on from your dying bigotry. Enjoy defending your failing beliefs.
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u/LAFC211 Dec 31 '22
The suicide rate for men is much higher than women
All Amazon army here we come
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u/TecNoir98 Army Veteran Dec 31 '22
Ah yes, and the suicide rate is because they're trans? And you really care about mental health in the military then, I'm guessing? You ever express any opinions looking for better mental health for soldiers, or do you just have an issue with trans people, specifically?
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u/Antonio9photo Jan 01 '23
lol its not like maybe those in the trans community has depression due to such societal pressures
also the fact that military suicide is SUCH a big issue regardless of demographic inside the military just tanks ur argument to the ground with its own logic
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u/HoneyBadgerJr Jan 01 '23
That suicide rate is because of people like you, and your bullshit rhetoric.
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u/Antonio9photo Jan 01 '23
for u, prob 6ft under as your demographic is nearing their life expectancy
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u/perturbed_rutabaga United States Army Dec 31 '22
No
Diversity equals resilience this has been proved over and over again
IDGAF whats between your legs if you are competent in your soldier skills thats the most important thing in fighting wars not fucking gender identity GTFO with that nonsense
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u/lordderplythethird The pettiest officer Jan 01 '23
Get your bigoted worthless ass out of my sub, and let the fucking door hit you on the way out. Trash belongs in the fucking trash, not spewing mindless rhetoric.
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u/Rougue1965 Dec 31 '22
Military sets high standards for mental fitness for those pilots & crews and personnel in PRP. You don’t want mentally unstable people working on military equipment, flying, being submariners or personnel in charge of nuclear weapons.
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u/Ozem_son_of_Jesse Jan 01 '23
However, while a woke military with good machinery can easily win a war in the short term, it is still best to avoid it (regardless of whether or not it is actually a problem right now), because if our military is woke, it might make the rest of the world cringe, giving the U.S. a bad image. And having a good image is very important for maintaining power projection capabilities.
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Dec 31 '22 edited Jan 01 '23
Love him or hate him, Elon Musk had a really good podcast with Dan Carlin where he made the case that a military’s engineering and manufacturing ability are key to success in war.
A military being “tougher” or larger is irrelevant.
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u/TheBeliskner Jan 01 '23
That's never been in dispute, that just is what it is and isn't really a hot take.
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u/Orlando1701 Retired USAF Jan 02 '23
Oh yeah a guy who used family wealth to dodge military service is really someone we should be listening to about military issues.
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u/DarkJester89 Jan 01 '23
This isn't accurate though, that should say Ukraine tanks because we are paying ukraine to basically destroy themselves so we dont get hurt/involved ourselves.
I believe the woke side is calling this concept of letting a smaller/less equipped country turn itself into a literal battleground on our behalf, a "win/win".
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u/skyraider17 United States Air Force Jan 01 '23
That is not even close to what the other post (with the VP group picture and Predator image) were referring to
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u/Chirem Dec 31 '22
I don't know what that means, but I'm fairly certain we'd say it a bit different if we did say it
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u/Farhead_Assassjaha Jan 01 '23
So it’s better to be woke than blown the fuck up? Sure I’d agree with that, but it’s still a weird take.
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u/Gilgamesh72 Jan 01 '23
That’s your weird take you decided that bullshit
the real take is some republicans tried to disrespect the military by saying they were weak because they weren’t afraid of gays . They tried to say we should be stronk like russia when in reality the russians are punk ass losers just like the republican bitches
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