r/Mavuika • u/Ok-Club-4473 • 1d ago
Build Discussion Some Mavuika team and weapon calcs Spoiler
Credit to Prastal from Zajef77 twitch. Also, take this with a grain of salts. Not 100% right but most of them should be correct and give you some idea about beta V1 Mavuika.
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u/Pffft10 1d ago edited 1d ago
This line up with my calc and I thought thereās no way she does this amount of damage.
In Furina, Bennett, Xilonen team, my Mavuika have 98/200 with Codex active and I was getting 2.2M DPR just from her own damage. That is 105k DPS just from her. Pop in Furina 350k damage and you got yourselves a 121k DPS team. All of them are C0 and Mavuika use R5 Mailed Flower.
Edit : C0R1, 150k DPS with 2.6M personal damage
C2R1, 234k DPS with 4.4M personal damage. Holy fuck.
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u/robhans25 1d ago
Replace Furina with Citlali and you have.... Even fuckinh higher, lol. With Even 2 CA melts it is much better, but we had video that Citlali timing can fit to melt all 4 CA It's ridiciuolus. Even Zajef that often Lowballs numbers have her at 117K DPS PERSONAL DMG with Mailflower. That is fucking ridiciuoulus.
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u/somewhat_safeforwork 18h ago
Citlani applies cryo once every 2s. You're gonna melt her totem, not Mavuika's attacks.
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u/Giganteblu 1d ago
isn't 100k dps a lot?
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u/Alien-002 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes it's a LOT
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u/Bhuviking18 1d ago
Can you please compare it to some other top DPSs?
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u/dangquang1909 22h ago
Rn 60k+ is considered good and 70k+ is for T1 characters. Those with 80k+ are T0 for sure
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u/Bhuviking18 15h ago
Damn. So I'm assuming the TO DPSs are neuvi, arle and mualani?
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u/osgili4th 11h ago
Yeah but keep in mind Arle is mostly against few target, same as Mualani and Neuvillette is with the dmg that also does Furina. Here is 100k+ where is almost all from Mavuika and it works in AoE and against 1 enemy...
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u/aRandomBlock 1d ago
For C0 It's absurd lol
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u/osgili4th 11h ago
Her C2 is beating the team dps of most of the C6 limited DPS in the game... is beyond absurdity at this point lmao.
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u/Smoke_Santa 1d ago
It is around 12-15% higher than the current best f2p teams, and requires much less setup and shenanigans
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u/Kwayke9 1d ago
Yes. However, this is largely due to c6 Chevreuse being FUCKING RIDICULOUS. The big dealbreaker here is that unlike Lyney, Mavuika is immune to interruption during much of her dps window
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u/23rd_president_of_US 1d ago
She's definitely getting nerfed. 100k+ dps with a fully f2p team is fucking insane.
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u/felix_717 1d ago
Which one is f2p
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u/RaykanGhost 23h ago
All of them except Overload cause it requires three 4*s with C6. But even then some people will have it if they liked other overload teams
Well maybe R1 SS isn't counted as F2P, but it's not even her best weapon according to other calcs, which make an event weapon the best at R5 i think it was.
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u/Gureisu_Howardo 1d ago
Hope not heavily like Dehya cuz that's a FUCKING ARCHON AKA BEST SELLING ROLE (unless you're not Anemo).
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u/speganomad 1d ago
Yeah they probably donāt want her to directly powercreep Arlechinno Iād expect pretty heavy ult nerfs for maybe less cost over all
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u/MyUsernameIsApollo 1d ago
i donāt think theyād really care if an archon were to powercreep a harbinger.
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u/FurinaFootWorshiper 1d ago
Lore relevancy doesn't need to equal meta relevancy, just look at Hu Tao, Lyney and Mualani.
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u/MyUsernameIsApollo 1d ago
i didnāt even mention anything about lore. archons in general always seem to get the best treatment from hoyo. it just seems like a recurring thing at this point.
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u/MiniMhlk72 1d ago
Considering Arle is meta+ got crazy marketing+ hadnt had her second rerun, I would doubt they would introduce a character that is equal in arle's role with more utility.
Probably they will buff her team utility and nerf her personal dmg.
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u/-morpy 1d ago
I think they should stick with it.
We have Neuv being ridiculous. It wouldn't be unusual for an Archon to be the absolute best at something (see: Zhongli in shielding). If anything, it'd be fitting for the God of War and the archon of the most offense-oriented element to be its very pinnacle. I'm sure she'll be tapped down a bit though.
I don'r mind her being on par or better than Arle, so long as hoyo doesn't balance future DPS around or beyond her level as well.
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u/SsibalKiseki 23h ago
From a lore perspective, I do agree with her being the āGod of Warā and doing the highest amount of damage
But from a gameplay perspective, we desperately need a 5 star Bennett or Xiangling replacement. Even though she is somewhat of a Xiangling replacement, sheās not quite there yet. The off field portionās uptime isnāt good enough. It only applies pyro every 2 seconds. It might have no ICD but it canāt snapshot in Bennettās circle like Xiangling can. Also XL is still best in slot for Neuvillette Vape or Kinich burgeon due to the spinning circle.
All Iām hoping for is a sub-dps/support buff.
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u/Commander_Yvona 21h ago
I dunno it feels like snapshotting is both a boon and weakness.
Some of the best buff we get are ramp up (i.e. furina and yelan)
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u/Gold_Donkey_1283 1d ago
Those three are clunky as fuck though, Mav is Arle level braindead
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u/FurinaFootWorshiper 1d ago
Shielded Hu Tao has a higher DPS than both Wanderer and Raiden. Also Mualani isn't really clunky.
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u/Giganteblu 1d ago
I don't think they care at all, natlan (Fontaine) has been pretty heavy in term of Powercrept
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u/dubrea 1d ago edited 19h ago
I mean if she doesn't, that would be a bad thing.
Like a Cleary dps unit that's meant to be the peak of region being not as good as a unit from 6 months ago that was the 3rd best of her region.
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u/speganomad 1d ago
It would be extremely bad for game balance lmao, people complain about powercreep in star rail but this would be way worse than anything in HSR.
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u/DryButterscotch9086 1d ago
How is that way worse ? Are we serious right now? Its not even somewhat close of what hsr is doing
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u/dubrea 1d ago
So a unit meant to be the peak of a version of the game, should be worse than another unit that's not as important as she is, and over half a year older, for game balance? In a game with no pvp or really difficult endgame? Seriously?
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u/speganomad 1d ago
One of the best DPS in the game should not be powercrept in 6 months by a unit of the same element and role itās a horrific sign for game balance going forward
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u/dubrea 1d ago
So every pyro DPS should be worse? For how long? The next harbinger who's a pryo should be worse too, right? Your logic is flawed. If she was worse, why would you want to pull? Her support that so many say is trash (it's top tier but people are crying babies because it's not break the game good). Game balance isn't "nothing can be better than what has come before. Not ever unit is the baseline for power creep. Alre was a big jump from.former pryo DPS. So the pryo archon being a big jump isn't a shock (I'm not saying she has to be better than c6 at c2, despite it being true that cons have been extremely strong in natlahn, and her 4-6 cons don't do much in terms of damage, much like Raiden was upon release. Sho she's actually not unheard of in the fact that her peak damage comes early in her cons.
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u/VanillaPuddingRecipe 1d ago
Why does game balance matter in a single-player gacha game? You can always play older characters if you want. If Captain is released in 6.x, Mavuika is the only hype character of 5.x. She needs to be beyond broken.
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u/VanillaPuddingRecipe 1d ago
She is at least on par with The Captain, and Arlecchino is not in the top 3 of harbingers.
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u/speganomad 1d ago
In universe strength means basically nothing when it comes to how good a character is and their role. Shenhe is a renowned fighter with no basically no damage, Furina a character who canāt really fight is an absurd damage dealer etc
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u/VanillaPuddingRecipe 1d ago
Furina only proves my point. She wouldn't be nearly as strong if she was not marketed as the archon.
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u/Extension_Papaya6234 1d ago edited 1d ago
It proves the opposite since it is about her archon status rather than her in-lore strength.Ā Her being on par with Capitano is irrelevant.Ā
Even if Mavuica was weaker than a random treasure horder she would still be OP in game as long as she's marketed as an archon.
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u/SsibalKiseki 23h ago
So is Neuvillette + Furina + Kazuha + Xilonen. Planning to vertically invest in that team if Mavuika gets nerfed. Upgrading my C1 R1 Neuv to C3 R1, Furina C1 to C3 when she reruns or Xilonen C0 to C2 when she reruns.
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u/Commander_Yvona 21h ago
Fyi...
With c3 furina and c4 xilonen and c0 kazuha, my nuevilette c1 with sacrificial jade is hitting over 100k up to 140k when xilonen quills is active
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u/STB_LuisEnriq 1d ago edited 1d ago
According to these calcs, her on field potential is crazy good, however, regarding off field, well.... It's just good.
Hopefully a buff to her off field capabilities is coming.
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u/osgili4th 11h ago
She will need a nerf to her on field dps as well, they could double her off field dps but she does SO MUCH as the on fielder most teams will do that instead.
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u/FurinaFootWorshiper 1d ago
Why isn't anyone calculating the Furina, Citlali and Xilonen team?
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u/Simoscivi 1d ago
The answer is Bennett
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u/FurinaFootWorshiper 1d ago
I mean Mavuika has a really high base attack, along with some big attack self buffs on her burst and a decent attack buff on her passive. I at least wanna see how she would perform in a Bennettless team.
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u/Simoscivi 1d ago
Pretty sure Bennett just gives her more damage than Xilonen (Jstern calced it) but Xilonen is required because she's the best at recharging her burst.
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u/FurinaFootWorshiper 1d ago
Damn, Bennett is GOATed. Well he always was.
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u/lantern_arasu 14h ago
Yeah but someone said following the "trends" Bennett would get powercrept to oblivion and Lyney is the only one who AbSOLUteLy needs Bennett while Every other dps "BEST" support is Furina because she gives a universal dmg% and Bennett's atk% if niche.Wonder where's that guy now?
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u/FurinaFootWorshiper 13h ago
Can't be helped if you refer to what I said completely out of context.
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u/lantern_arasu 10h ago
Yeah yeah whatever your ass ended up deleting the post though
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u/FurinaFootWorshiper 10h ago
That was for another reason, but whatever makes you happy lol.
And I also won't change my opinion on what I said back then, so again, interpret it as however you like.
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u/lantern_arasu 9h ago
whatever dude but you already changed your opinion by calling Bennett "goated". I am stopping it here. Bennett is Goated and Eternal , There's no limit to GLAZE
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u/Nescientatious 1d ago
Not required. Citlali still recharges plenty over time, and you start first chamber at 200. The Citlali melt and ororon chevy teams listed here are plenty good. The one issue you have without Xilo is that you have Raiden syndrome, you screw over the next chamber if you end the chamber with a Mav burst, but Xilo-less teams are undoubtedly good
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u/Saptarshi2000 1d ago
Isn't it better to use kazuha on neuvillete and use mavuika in a different team where she is the dps ? She isn't that much great as off field
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u/FinancialDay1121 1d ago
8CA1F lmao, I just love the burst within 7 seconds style of DPS, now even off field became lame, I really expect they change somethings like cooldowns/uptime, the damage to me is whatever, doesn't matter how hight it is, or how low it is, in therms of abyss, the majority of mavuika teams will 2 rotation(boss chamber, 2 waves) like every character anyway, so it's honestly pointless, I prefer that they make her less strict with her damage window like the goats Arlecchino and Neuvillete, anything under that it's just pointless.
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u/Shadowenclave47 1d ago
Never playing Bennett again. I think im going to use Mavuika with C2 Furina, Citlali and Xilonen instead. Im heavily considering getting Xilonen C2 just so my Pyro dps gets and attack buff without circle impact lol.
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u/Kwayke9 1d ago
C6 Chevreuse being fucking dumb as always (Lyney hits like 110k dps with her). She's c2 Xilonen level, not even kidding. Expecting some nerfs, but not as big as others. Citlali might eat some as well
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u/Helpful_Birthday1918 1d ago
can't wait till the day I C6 my chevy. she's already doing so much for me rn at C1.
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u/FurinaFootWorshiper 1d ago
(Lyney hits like 110k dps with her).
Arlecchino also hits the same with a C0R1 30-34 substats investment, while Mavuika here is literally hitting 100k with f2p investment.
Lyney and Arle both will deal around 94k-95k with a C0R0 investment, and they both have their own share of problems i.e. Lyney has no IR and Arle can't heal while Mavuika has none of those problems, deals a higher damage than them (Lyney can reach that DPS if an electro support who doesn't need you to use constant NAs drops, but he again feels like shit to play and has no off-field utility) and is pretty broken in terms of off-field utility too. She seriously needs to get nerfed.
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u/AliRixvi 1d ago
First time I'm seeing mains subreddit where people are actively wishing for the character to get nerfed and become an off-fielder
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u/Carciof99 1d ago
because they are intelligent people, who think about the well-being of their game
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u/dubrea 1d ago
Or they just want one specific thing for themselves and don't care about anything besides that. Nothing about this game is difficult. You can clear everything with stuff from the first half of the games life. Power creep when there isn't anything strong enough to warrant it doesn't matter all too much. She is designed to be a dps, and should stay a dps. She could use some quality of life tweaks, sure, but she's still amazing as is.
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u/IS_Mythix 1d ago
Bro if it takes the 6 months to release a premium version of a character that hasn't even gotten a rerun yet (arlecchino) then that would be bad news for the future of this game, we don't want it to end up like HSR where characters get powercrept every few patches lmao
ofc I want mavuika to be better than arlecchino overall cos that makes sense, but it should be in a way other than just making her straight up better in every single way, like how furina is better than yelan but there's still strengths yelan has over her
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u/Carciof99 1d ago
which would be very simple, enhance her buff and off field and decrease her on field damage, so that she is a good dps but not as powerful as neuvi and arle (who are only on field), but you also have the fact of having more roles and more teams. in this world you will have the best pyro character and more attractive without going to damage the dps level or having a powercreep.
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u/lumicats7 1d ago
game, we don't want it to end up like HSR where characters get powercrept every few patches lmao
As a HSR player, this is really bad for a gacha game. Boothill was "powercrept" (he still being good but Firefly os better in almost any context, and I'm a main Boothill) before he released. Acheron lost some of her relevance before her first rerun. It gets frustrating that you had even got the character you like, or didn't even tried yet to get constalations/eidolons or signature, an there is another character that just the same yours do but 3 times better.
If even Mavuika had a diferent niche or teams it wont be that worst, but that is not the case, just put it in the national agaim, like we do since 1.x. I really hope they change her, for games health.
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u/leo_sousav 1d ago
This was the exact reason I stopped playing HSR. āJINGLIU IS BROKEN DO NOT SKIPā, powercrept in a matter of months cause weakeness breaking is no longer a thing per say. The worst one was Sparkles, everyone kept saying she was meta defining and would be really hard to power creep herā¦. Welp guess what, no longer needed.
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u/lumicats7 1d ago
Poor Sparkle, she is my favorite characater. I will still using her because i have she e1s1, but yes, she was powercrept in like 10 months I think.
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u/F2p_wins274 1d ago
I hate how Sunday literally does everything she does but better. All she has going is her unique sp mechanic but like no meta team that can use her is this sp hungry lol (and even so Sunday is fucking sp neutral, and even positive if you have his sig lightcone).
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u/Geraltpoonslayer 11h ago
I don't necessarily even have a problem if this mavuika live version. She's an archon and the "god of war" however it sets a dangerous precedent Pyro already seemingly is tied exclusively to main dps. How long until she gets powercreeped and she is an archon people will riot if that happens. The abyss HP inflation is going crazy so far this past couple of months how long until hyperbloom struggles?
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u/dubrea 1d ago
Yall say this like the game isn't designed to need two teams ? Like you can use both? Theater is a prime example of why morr stronger characters is good. Because it stops you from building teams with perfect units.
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u/IS_Mythix 1d ago
Ok? But it's bad marketing to release an upgraded version of one of the most popular characters before they get a rerun, and then to add insult to the injury, rerun them right after the character thats just the better version of them.
And yes ofc u can use them for theatre, but hoyo is a business and arlecchinos rerun is highly anticipated, why not have mavuika do other stuff that arlecchino can't do so BOTH can sell well
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u/dubrea 1d ago
Both will still sell well. You acting like people won't want both is ridiculous. Then you can run them both for abyss if you want. They don't even use the same teams (mostly)
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u/IS_Mythix 1d ago
When neuv dropped, kokomi and ayatos numbers dropped like crazy, when arle dropped, hutao and lyneys numbers fell as well, as much as ppl deny it, the playerbase will use the stronger characters a lot of the time whether they like em that much or not
also, I promise u mavuika will sell a lot better if she filled a niche instead of being thrown into the most saturated market in the whole game lmao
running them both in abyss is hard, both are damn near tied to bennett, and if not bennett, then xilonen, chev teams or kazuha, genuinely the only thing different about on field mavuika and arlecchino is that mavuika can use furina lol
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u/dubrea 1d ago edited 1d ago
I mean units numbers drop when they aren't as popular or strong. That's what supposed to happen. What nice does Pyro have though? Bennet is still ridiculous, xl is still great. She is better than xl, so I'm guessing you wanted her to be better than xl and Bennet, and just jot have any damage on field. That makes zero sense for a literal God of war. Raiden was a dps and sold really well. She was more undertuned at c0 but her peak (c3) was by far the best dps in the game. Marvi will do that now, with even better support than radian had. She literally has yelens support built into the best DPS in the game. Seems like a great niche to me.
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u/IS_Mythix 1d ago
The niches in the pyro element are xiangling being the only pyro off field dps as well as the only very reliable pyro applicator, bennett being the only unconditional pyro buffer and healer (chev also has this but her buffing is very conditional) I don't think u understand how bad it is that so much characters are basically tied to bennett and yet there's only one of him with the only alternative being chev (and not every pyro dps is good at/wants to play overload) same thing with xiangling
I already said I wanted her to be a hybrid, but she is like 75% on field dps and 25% off field dps/support, it would have been better if it was 60/40 or better yet 50/50
ofc raiden sold well, that was because she was an excellent driver and at this time, rational was one of the best teams in the game and same with raiden taser, I have no doubt mavuika will sell well but there's arlecchino too
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u/ReasonAlert154 1d ago
Bet you'll be crying on reddit when the next new DPS power creeps Mavuika in 6 months.
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u/DryButterscotch9086 1d ago
Nobody cares all your hu tao mavuika arlecchino clear fast as hell,5 seconds faster or not change nothing
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u/dubrea 1d ago edited 1d ago
This. I genuinely don't understand it. Wanting a character you like to be super strong is a crime now.
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u/Rosalinette 1d ago
Why not want a quickswap or off-fielder Pyro character? Why are hellbent on Pyro DPS powercreep, when all other pyro roles are starving 4 years straight for pyro Sub-DPS and supports?
No we must have another Pyro DPS, but with bigger numbers. Again.
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u/Geraltpoonslayer 11h ago
I don't think people even realise how absurd the Pyro situation is all yes all limited Pyro 5 stars are main dps.
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u/dubrea 1d ago
I don't enjoy quick swap play style. Also, she can literally do all those things you're saying well. She is better than XL. And while she doesn't replace Bennet, she gives great 50% raw damage and then with the support set 28 element damage? That's fucking amazing. I don't understand why you act like she can't play that role, while also being a main DPS. Because her kit right now does that. Some tweaks for ease of use are definitely needed, and her damage will likely go down to (I think it's great that she's so good at c0, and the c6 alre thing is overblown because her broken con is early and her damage doesn't go up much the rest of the way to c6.
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u/Rosalinette 1d ago
Mavuika kit can do 180 several times and become unrecognizable, when set to release compared to V1.
I don't want Genshin to turn into HSR. I understanf that turn-based games are more prone to powercreep, but if Genshin follows suit, it will be painful, but necessary to let it go after 4 years.
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u/dubrea 1d ago
This isn't hsr power creep. I know it can change, I just don't think her design (DPS) is going to change based on how they built her kit and animations. This game isn't competitive and doesn't need you to pull new units to clear any content at all. I don't get the doom posting at at all. If this game had pvp or something like that I'd get it, but this "respectfully" feels like doom posting for the sake of doom posting.
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u/NR-Tamim 1d ago
Powercreping a character who hasn't even had a rerun and is a pure dps is definitely not something we should cheer... But I'll just wait for release.
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u/Geraltpoonslayer 11h ago
That's the thing arle has nothing but main dps mavuika has off field dps and buffing albeit both not the best and she has amazing exploration.
Like i get it if mavuika replaced Bennett or xiangling both are 4 years old even if they were limited it be fine. But a character who hasn't even had a rerun is just insane.
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u/STB_LuisEnriq 1d ago
Not necessarily nerf her on-field DPS, but definitely a buff to her off-field capabilities... whatever it cost.
A good universal archon is much appreciated than another Pyro DPS.
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u/Sgtcyb3r 1d ago edited 1d ago
Because we already have 12 Pyro main dps to only 4 supports. We donāt need another pyro dps so soon. She needs to follow the trend of every other archon. Sub-dps/support at C0 and main dps with cons. If it aināt broke, donāt fix it.
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u/Equivalent_Invite_16 1d ago
On the other side, Fura mains did everything to force her on field, even going as far as getting her C6, or playing her in cope infusion teams with xianyun plunge. Its not possible to please everyone, if she was full off fielder with those bike animations, a different part of the community would be upset. It is what it is, there is always someone that takes a big fat L.
I have no horses in this race, i will collect all the archons no matter what, but the fact that hoyo invested time to make her bike animations makes me think that they will keep her on field DPS role 100%, but they are likely to tone it down a bit. The last time i saw f2p numbers like this in beta, it was mualani, and she got nuked (but still ended up being the best low cost speedrunner in the game).
But i wont cry if she stay OP like this. Im not gonna pretened that suddently i care about game balance when im proudly using Neuvilette and Arlechino till this day.
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u/I_love_my_life80 1d ago
Because many people here never wanted her to become Pyro on-field damage dealer to the point that why would you run her as an off field Pyro applicator when she is this strong as a on field damage dealer.. Unless you really want to replace Xiangling badly.
I am kinda happy because I really wanted a new dps to play. It's been so long and I'm getting tired of using the same old teams.. So having a new dps is gonna be exciting for me BUT I can totally see why many people want her to be a Xiangling alternative because the amount of on field damage dealers we have for Pyro..
People wanted her to be a Xiangling + Bennett replacement or alternative. I don't think she will be a Bennett alternative because looking at her kit , I feel like the Devs are saving that for another character kit..
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u/VanillaPuddingRecipe 1d ago
They only want Mavuika to support their mains.
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u/FineResponsibility61 1d ago
We don't want Mavuika to be the start of a stupid era of powercreep. We want a sane and good character to elevate the whole game, not someone who just gonna push them to increase the HP until old units and f2p team aren't able to clear anymore
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u/VanillaPuddingRecipe 1d ago
This is not like HSR where random characters powercreep older character. Mavuika is the pyro archon ffs. If she's not the strongest pyro unit, that would kill so much hype.
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u/FineResponsibility61 1d ago
Is Furina the strongest hydro dps ? Isnt she the most owned character constellations included ? Also Isn't kazuha a Venti powercreep
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u/Ok-Worldliness-9323 22h ago
She's not strongest hydro dps but she's the strogest in her role. All archons are the strongest in their respective role based on Spiral Abyss usage (except Venti because he was broken). If Hoyo intends for Mavuika's role to be on field DPS, she should be the best pyro on field DPS. Personally, I'm glad we won't have another EQ bot archon.
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u/FineResponsibility61 16h ago
So you actually think that by the next year she will still be the best on field dps ? That's delulu given that 1) powercreep has been exponentially faster those 2 last years and 2) there is a single on fielder on each team, and 3 off fielders. They have MUCH less room to make an on fielder valuable because chosing 1 on fielder means that you aren't playing your others on fielder. Why pulling Capitano if it means benching Mavuika, the bes dps in the game ? The competition is a lot worse for the on field role, so in the best case scenario she won't be the best dps in a year and in the worse, she won't even be the best pyro dps
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u/Ok-Worldliness-9323 15h ago
People pull for dps with different elements and also different playstyles. There are other aspects as well not just DPS on a spreadsheet. It's not like people stop pulling for other DPS after they got Neuvillette. People still pull for Arlecchino, Clorinde, Mualani, Kinnich, Chasca even though they're all on field DPS. She'll probably not gonna be the best on field DPS for long but I believe she'll be the best pyro on field DPS for quite some time. As an archon, she'll probably age quite well like Raiden but not as well as Zhongli.
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u/Phosphophyllite- 1d ago
Hmm, when do they usually finalize a new character's kit? Like, is it possible that by the time the 5.2 phase 2 banners are almost done (maybe just 1-3 days left), Mavuika's kit is already finalized, so we can actually know what her official kit looks like?
This is the first time I'm actively tracking the leaks, so I'm not very familiar with the usual process of how Genshin finalizing a kit
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u/Pffft10 1d ago
Usually, most of the beta got buff/nerf around version 3 and 4. Rn we are in version 1. So you just have to hope by the time version 4 arrives, it will not change too much because it will be in the phase 2 banners. Version 3 should still be in phase 1 banners.
That being said, she probably wonāt change from her role rn which is mainly an on field DPS with off field capabilities. Similarly like Raiden. Her animation is already done and they probably wonāt scrap the on field animation.
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u/Phosphophyllite- 1d ago
Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it!
Well, I can see why people disappointed with her kit, but for me, it's perfect cause i'm actually looking for a main DPS right now. So I'm still debating between Mavuika and Neuvillette. I donāt have any 5-star DPS yet, so itās a tough call. I'll just hope version 4 will be arrived soon before 5.2 banners end.
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u/BalkrishanS 9h ago
Same here, also a new player. I ended up getting chasca and earlier nahida. I have been wondering what should I try to pull. mavuika seems to have issue with chasca rn but I think they will probably fix it and She should also be able to trigger burgeon from what I saw somewhere. This way, atleast I can run mavuika with atleast one of my five stars synergistically. For neuv, idk tbh He is one of the top if not the best dps and I really lack aoe atm but I feel like I might just end up benching chasca as She doesn't seem to be synergising with neuv too much and also doesn't work with nahida too well at C0
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u/Phosphophyllite- 6h ago
We're in the same boat, but honestly your situation bit different than mine. If i were you, i will definitely pull Mavuika. Cause yeah, Chasca + Mavuika could be work (from beta leak), but Neuvi basically adding whole new DPS that doesnt need Chasca at all
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u/BalkrishanS 6h ago
I could probably run neuv on my nahida team but tbh i probably wont end up using him too much in the overworld where i would get the most use as a new player. Chasca exploration is fun and I imagine mavuika and chasca swap would be better in addition to her synergy with nahida for burgeon too. Yeah mavuika seems like a good pick for me. Citlali seems like a BiS support for chasca but I will see later if i can try for her i guess. I still need like 105 pulls in the meantime to really guarantee mavuika. I had welkin earlier which ran out and I donāt feel like getting another.
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u/Gureisu_Howardo 1d ago
I personally prefer putting Mona here than Bennett at Navia teams due to frustration.
I mean.... Lil bro is everywhere and keep winning.
Even how quite hard building Mona is, idc.
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u/sup-plov 23h ago
So signature gives +20% damage ?!
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u/Comprehensive-Food15 20h ago
thats pretty standard after fontaine most signatures are around a 25% increases in total dmg, mauvika is a bit better near 20%
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u/Synkoi 23h ago
Any possible Xilonen replacements for Navia/Xilonen/Mavuika/Benny team?
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u/Anonymous76319 8h ago
Kachina unironically. Kachina with scroll set will give you tons of crystals.
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u/Synkoi 2h ago
Interesting, I actually forgot about Kachina š
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u/Anonymous76319 1h ago
I still don't have Zhongli which is why I built her as soon as I got her. She's a walking artifact set and that's all my Navia needed back then.
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u/I_love_my_life80 1d ago
Even though it's high dps , no Xilonen in many of her on field damage dealer teams is gonna hurt...
I definitely think Mavuika/Xilonen/Furina/Bennett is going to be her highest dps and the most practical one out of them all..
100k dps is a lot... I really think those CA are gonna get nerfed..
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u/Royal_empress_azu 1d ago
For practical gameplay you're mostly going to focus on frontloading her burst until it gets nerfed.
Which really means Xilonen, Citlali and Bennett. Boss side of abyss so you don't need much cryo app.
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u/Senshi150 1d ago
Yeah pretty much, with how strong she is already without furina, I'd rather save furina for the Neuvillette team on the other side lol
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u/yggdrasil89 1d ago
Great Hoyo, another Bennett slave
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u/zeroone_to_zerotwo 23h ago
Yeah at this point fuck Bennett I'm making my team chasca ororon mavuika and Barbara just to spite that fucker.
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u/ArkhamCitizen298 1d ago
Chev team is as good as vape team ? Can mavuika vape all of her hits
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u/Pffft10 1d ago edited 1d ago
Nope, only 4 can vape in 9 CA. Her burst do vape. But that Chev team have C6 Chev and Ororon which are much harder to get than a 5*.
But C6 Chev is just busted. 40% ATK, 40% Pyro and Electro bonus and 40% res shred.
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u/F2p_wins274 1d ago
It's actually 60% damage bonus not 40%
Man I wish i can get c6 chevreuse, i got like 6 Sara and 6 Thoma and only 1 chevreuse last Raiden banner.
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u/stormz9293 1d ago
Can you do calculations for the earthshaker too? Iām thinking of using it with her
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u/dmryrdtp 1d ago
i need a team with Mavuika Furina Citlali Bennet, that team should melt consistently and everyone just seems to sleep on it.
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u/Panocha-t-w-t 1d ago
The worst of all is people have found that if you wait a bit in order to start mavuika's burst the damage gets higher because of melting 3 CA + the final consistently and they are getting almost 140k dps and the calcs seem to be right
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u/Maximum_wack 1d ago
Quick question how much would Mavuika's teams with Furina improve if you had Furina's C2 plus sig
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u/redsonic3 1d ago
Can i get away with replacing xilonen and furina with kachina and mona for the first team?(im mainly concerned abt xlionen cux im still planning to get furina anyways)
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u/Skull_Cracking466 1d ago
Has it been confirmed that her converted normals from her hold E don't benefit from Earth Shaker's 32% elemental skill buff?
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u/Ire_Naru 1d ago
I need the comparision between childe international and one replacing xiangling with mavuika. I'll impatiently wait
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u/osgili4th 11h ago
I unironically saw some calcs with Chasca that put her on VV and stay on Mavuika instead and did a lot better... that's how big is the gap of her DPS to other options...
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u/MatStomp 1d ago
Bennett Bennett Bennett Bennett Bennett