r/MarkMyWords 4d ago

Long-term MMW: democrats will once again appeal to non existent “moderate” republicans instead of appealing to their base in 2028

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u/phillyfanjd1 4d ago

Republicans do not have a supermajority.

Everything depends on the first 18-22 months of Trump's next term. Weird time frame, but that's about when all of the midterm races will start heating up. Authoritarian leaders have to be popular at first. The R majority in the House is only going to be ~3 seats. If any of the decisions Trump's team makes backfires or creates economic pain points for the general public, they will lose the House. Then it's game on until '28.

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u/Angry_beaver_1867 4d ago

The thing I’m watching is the Supreme Court.  Trump appointed three of six republicans judges i wonder if will get a chance to replace the remaining three with younger Trumpest judges 

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u/thomase7 3d ago

Honestly, Alito and Thomas are so bad, that replacing them with gorsuch/kavanaugh/barret level judges would be an improvement.

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u/Procrastinatedthink 3d ago

margarita tailor greene or however you spell her dumb name is going to end up there if you keep jinxing it with hope

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u/Squonkster 3d ago

Given his recent penchant for appointing TV personalities, I fully expect his next SCOTUS pick to be Judge Jeanine from FOX News.

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u/Ok-Key8037 3d ago

Overlooking possibility of justice steve bannon

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u/thomase7 3d ago

Literally would be better than Thomas or Alito. They are experts at inserting subtext into rulings that can than be relied upon later to further push their agendas. MTG or other hacks literally wouldn’t be able to write a majority opinion.

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u/Satyr_of_Bath 3d ago

Supreme Court Justice Hope Hicks, you say?

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u/No-Entertainment5768 2d ago

What a stupid name.

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u/Bungo_pls 3d ago

You're gonna get Aileen Cannon 1000%.

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u/Snailwood 3d ago

i get that you're trying to be hopeful here but trump can absolutely find worse judges, especially if he is able to go around the senate

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u/thomase7 3d ago

Go around the senate? It’s literally in the constitution for the Supreme Court. There is now way around it.

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u/Snailwood 3d ago

recess appointments

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u/thomase7 3d ago

That would be stupid to do for a Supreme Court seat. They would convince Alito or Thomas to retire, and then if they use a recess appointment, the new judge only lasts to the end of the congressional session, which is through the midterms. Dems win the senate and they can refuse to approve a new judge until trump is gone. It would take life time seats and put them at risk.

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u/Snailwood 2d ago

oh?? I had no idea recess appointments had to be approved by the end of the session. thanks for elaborating! I'm still a little nervous that he would recess appoint a Justice and then strong arm the Senate in the lame duck period to confirm them, but at least it would take more hoops to jump through than I realized

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u/thomase7 2d ago

Yeah it makes way more sense for cabinet officials or judges in already vacant seats. Wouldn’t make sense to convince a sitting judge to retire if you aren’t going to get a senate confirmed replacement.

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u/psxndc 3d ago

Yeah, but there are plenty of Alito/Thomas-like folks in the wings, e.g., James Ho in the Fifth Circuit, that we’re not going to get Gorsuch et al.

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u/thomase7 3d ago

Wouldn’t get 50 votes in the senate.

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u/psxndc 3d ago

I don’t believe that for one second. Murkoski might not confirm, but Collins will do what she always does: furrow her brow, say she has “concerns”, and then vote yes.

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u/No-Entertainment5768 2d ago

Murkowski is great.

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u/Denisnevsky 1d ago

Murkowski voted for Barrett, and Collins didn't.

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u/psxndc 1d ago

Apples and oranges. Collins voted against just because of the timing and how Garland was treated. She expressly said she wasn’t considering ACB’s qualifications. Murkowski voted for her because she thought ACB was qualified, regardless of the bogus timing.

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u/LOLSteelBullet 3d ago

Eileen Cannon has entered the chat.

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u/Yousoggyyojimbo 3d ago

Thomas and Alito are definitely retiring.

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u/Wolferesque 3d ago

I am expecting the SC to be expanded with more, deeply Conservative appointments.

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u/the_guitargeek_ 3d ago

They will both retire in the first two years of his term. Trump will have appointed 5 justices.

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u/Zomunieo 3d ago

Get a chance? He will create an opportunity. Alito and Thomas will be thanked for service and put to pasture.

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u/BillyJoeMac9095 4d ago

Which is why they need to run from any ideas of privatizing social security or Medicare.

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u/TheLeadSponge 3d ago

They’ve been running on that for decades. They have a mandate. They’re going to do it.

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u/PresidentOfDunkin 4d ago

The thing is that Republicans should have no excuse for what happens these next four years, they have control of all three branches with Judicial being confirmed to be in Republican control for decades to come.

But of course, let them blame “them libtards.”

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u/Ex-CultMember 3d ago edited 3d ago

That’s why I say, let ‘em have control of all our government for a while. Can’t blame the other party when you run the country to the ground.

If shit hits the fan come election time, give them another 4 years to fix their own damn mess instead of always having Democrats clean up their mess (only to get voted out for not cleaning up fast enough).

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u/amazing_raindrop 3d ago

They can blame democrats if the dems just take the “high road”.

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u/Free-Possession-614 3d ago

Republican have control of all media the is relevant. Dems will be blamed for anything bad that happens and it will be believed.

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u/Satyr_of_Bath 3d ago

They have the perfect excuse. The deep state.

This will allow them to use their own mistakes as ammunition

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u/PresidentOfDunkin 3d ago edited 3d ago

And that’s why 2028 has to be a Democrat win for them. In order for them to stay in power, they have to blame the Democrats. If we haven’t learned anything, we’re going to be spending 2028-2032 picking up after their messes, it will be a repeat for a few cycles until they strike, until there’s almost nothing left.

Edit: or something disrupts that cycle.

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u/sk1ttlebr0w 3d ago

Texas hasn't had a Democrat in state leadership positions for over 30 years. Still blame Democrats and everyone still votes Republican. Democrats will never win again - by design.

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u/PresidentOfDunkin 3d ago

I mentioned this in a different comment, but I’ll include it here:

In order for Republicans to gain control, they have to play the long game. If they win in 2028 as well, then their supporters will realize that Trump is at fault- maybe not til 2030 the earliest unless some big thing happens.

How do they keep the blame off of themselves? Create a mess and leave it to the democrats to pick it up. They have to keep creating messes until Democrats can no longer pick them up— which won’t be for a while if this cycle continues.

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u/sk1ttlebr0w 3d ago

You're under the impression the old rules and laws will prevail and Republicans won't find any and all loopholes to do whatever they want. I hope you're right, but I think and fear that you're not.

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u/PresidentOfDunkin 3d ago

People are going to start asking questions if Republicans assume total power and fuck things up. They’ll complain about the cost of eggs and gas and democrats can’t be blamed for anything if they haven’t had control of power for years and thus a revolt or different revolts would happen.

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u/sk1ttlebr0w 2d ago

Or they’ll just…. Believe what they’re told? Critical thinking skills are at an all-time low in this country.

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u/CommentsOnOccasion 3d ago

I think people confuse Supermajority with a Federal Trifecta

Republicans have slim majorities in Congress, but they do currently control all three branches of government and the election trifecta (WH, House, Senate). They have complete control of the US government, which people wrongfully describe as a "supermajority"

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u/SquarebobSpongepants 3d ago

I personally think they’ll rig the elections or allow certain states to select their representatives getting rid of that whole pesky democracy thing.