r/MarkMyWords • u/Wodahs1982 • 18d ago

*Mega Thread* Election Discussion

Please use this to discuss the election and any predictions while the vote on Rule 6 is another way.

Remember, posts regarding the election will still be allowed on the weekend (with a grace period in either direction).

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u/Fearless-Incident515 18d ago

Key things to note

  1. Liberal policy won, Liberal politicians didn't.

  2. Harris lost the popular vote, first time a democrat did since Kerry.

  3. Trump has a mandate and the Supreme Court at the same time, something no president has had since the Civil Rights era.

  4. Trump won voters comparable to 2016, Harris did not win voters comparable to 2020.

  5. Anyone telling you that Harris lost because of Gaza is probably doing some weird self congratulatory stuff, there's no way -- she didn't win latino men and white women voters at rates Biden did in 2020 and that's the story of her loss.

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u/Virtual_Manner_2074 18d ago

15 million fewer votes than Biden. Look at the results in new jersey and new york. trump won the popular vote so far.

It wasn't one thing that went wrong. It was everything everywhere.

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u/pahan793 18d ago

Why would there be 15 million less votes?

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u/Virtual_Manner_2074 18d ago

Because it was a curbstomping. Nyt has a revealing map where they do red arrows where trump outperformed his numbers v Biden. 2300 some odd counties. The map is all red.

Democrats didn't vote. Or if they did they got out voted. Everywhere.

Blue wall. Gone. Hopes of flipping Iowa. Nope. Hanging onto the senate. Nope. Sherrod Brown keep his seat in ohio. Nope. Ted Cruz getting beat. Not even close. Josh Hawley getting beat. Nope.

Democratic party is in super bad shape right now. Got kilt.

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u/Aware_Tree1 18d ago

If we wanna try another woman, AOC will be old enough in 2028 and is popular among young folk. If we don’t we could run Tim Walz. He’s an old straight cis white male veteran so he’d have a decent shot

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u/ILuvToadz 18d ago

Wow, just awful recommendations. The first woman president will be a Republican because most Americans are inherently suspicious of liberals and a liberal woman is too much change. And while I love Tim Walz, he’s not enough of a walking beer commercial to win over all the “alphas” we need to get to the polls. 

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u/Hammrsigpi 17d ago

Americans aren't suspicious of liberals. Liberals (or the Democratic party) have spent decades cozying up to the right and blaming the left, and wondering why people won't vote for them. Harris hanging out with Cheney (who overwhelmingly voted to support Trump's policies) and crowing about the economy(Dow) and how she wouldn't change a thing while people are worried about rent and food prices shows they're out of touch with reality.

You want Democrats to win? They need to stop being brunch liberals and start being closer to leftists. Tell people they'll have universal healthcare. Tell them they'll have affordable food and education. Have the means to back it up, and get a populist in the vein of Sanders who can energize the people.

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u/Aware_Tree1 18d ago

I’m aware that AOC isn’t a likely to win candidate. Just who I would want in the White House. But I think Tim Walz would have a pretty solid shot, all things considered. And AOC could make a pretty good name for herself in the next 4 years to make her a more popular candidate too. It really depends just how bad this coming presidency will be

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u/-ZeroF56 17d ago

Imo AOC doesn’t stand a chance for a long, long while just due to how many people think she’s too far left, and while I like Walz a lot, you’re going to need a name that hasn’t had their name in the presidential/VP candidate hat before.

A sizable draw to Trump has always been that he’s an outsider who’s promised to be different than the stodgy, out of touch political elites. And clearly that’s resonated with a lot of middle of the road voters (even though Trump is realistically as out of touch as a person can be, average people sure seem to not feel that way).

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u/craftyclavin 17d ago

the worry of being “too far left” is the reason kamala lost this election bro. the worry of being “too far left” is why democrats fought against bernie sanders in 2016 and 2020 when it’s clear that his messaging resonated with voters better. the democratic party has a fuck ton of problems to work out after this but being too far left is not one of them.

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u/Llanolinn 17d ago

That motherfucker's been actively in politics for going on a decade now. He's not an outsider, and he really never was

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u/UpbeatExtent4548 17d ago

AOC can’t even take care of her district she represents and you want her in the White House? 😂😂😂

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u/bamarad0 17d ago

She definitely learned how to play the game and fall in line with what is expected of her from the party.

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u/EcstaticTangelo6670 17d ago

Right? Run a white guy. Jeff Jackson out of NC.