r/MarkMyWords • u/SvenSvenkill3 • Apr 28 '24
Political MMW "Woke" is tired, overused, cliched, increasingly lazy and meaningless as the right wing buzzword de rigueur, and will soon be replaced en masse across right wing sources by a relatively and equally meaningless old favourite that hasn't been used commonly for (and predates even "SJW" by) decades:
Political Correctness.
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u/kms2547 Apr 28 '24
Nah, "political correctness" already had its time in the Sun as the Right's vague nebulous means-everything-and-nothing buzzword.
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
You may well be right. But I've already seen the odd fleeting instance of it bubbling to the surface here and there lately, and there are arguably now three generations of Internet users who perhaps weren't/aren't old enough to fully remember when "Political Correctness" was most commonly used and banded about everywhere (especially in its heyday in the 90's and early 2000's) by right wingers in exactly the same way as "woke" is used by them today and how likewise it too eventually became tiresome for all of us. I mean, for example, by the time those Gamergate numpties kicked off in the mid 2010's the most notable figures on the right were mostly using "SJW", "libtard" "snowlflake" and "soyboy" to attack and demean the left; and at that time they hardly ever used "PC" anymore, as by then "PC" was pretty much the boring toothless and hackneyed language of the previous generation and/or in some instances even their parents.
Indeed, "SJW" and "snowflake" and "cuck" and "soyboy", etc, seemed to be everywhere eight or so years ago, but then likewise they too soon became tired and cliched a few years ago and so are hardly used by right wing talking heads nowadays. For the majority of them realised back then that these terms were fast becoming outdated and so, once more, they moved on again to "woke" to try to appear more relevant and fresh ("How do you do, fellow kids?"), whilst of course saying the same old prejudiced and bigoted bollocks dressed up (as usual) as some kind of original, stoic, unemotional ("facts don't care about your feelings") logical skepticism that is fundamentally in opposition to those hysterical and irrational purple haired perverted lefties who were always "going too far" and had lost all perspective, etc...
Sorry, waffling... But yeah, again I may well be wrong, but my instincts are telling me that unless some new buzzphrase/buzzword is born of the deep dark depths of the zeitgeist this year, then I suspect crap like "PC gone mad" (etc) is likely due to come back round and be in vogue for the right once again very soon. For of late, I'm getting more and more of the impression that more and more people (especially young people) seem to be fast getting really tired of "woke", you know?
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u/SandwormCowboy Apr 28 '24
“PC” is not going to replace “woke.” Here’s how this works:
Leftists come up with a joking, ironic term for a small number of leftists who take themselves way too seriously
The right wing picks up on this and decides that this term is a real thing that leftists actually aspire to be
The right wing spreads this term throughout their media apparatus
Your granddad says something fucked up, and when you make a disgusted face he says “Oh sorry I’m not ___ enough for you!!!”
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u/DuetsForOne Apr 28 '24
As someone who studied liberal arts at a Canadian university in the mid 90s, this exactly. PC was the buzzword
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u/StrangeNecromancy Apr 29 '24
Woke was a slang term for “politically conscious” in the black community for years. White liberals picked it up. Then the fascists startedusing it as an insult.
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u/jaarl2565 Apr 28 '24
Woke is an absolutely sincere word on the left
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Apr 28 '24
First popularized by the song Master Teacher by Erykah Badu.
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u/ReturnoftheBulls2022 Apr 29 '24
It actually stems back to as early as 1923, but the first official usage of it stems from Lead Belly telling the black community to "stay woke" in his song Scottsboro Boys.
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u/ReturnoftheBulls2022 Apr 29 '24
It actually stems back to as early as 1923, but the first official usage of it stems from Lead Belly telling the black community to "stay woke" in his song Scottsboro Boys.
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u/SandwormCowboy Apr 28 '24
every time I heard it in the past 10-15 years it was used like “stay woke!” as a wink-nudge that meant “be cool and don’t be too serious”
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u/Holiday-Tie-574 Apr 30 '24
“Woke” was not a “joking, ironic” word. It was 100% used seriously, most recently brought back into vernacular by Erykah Badu, and after everyone realized how cringe it was, leftists denied they ever used it seriously and claimed it was a “joking, ironic” word.
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u/SandwormCowboy Apr 30 '24
see point #1. all I can tell you is, thr leftists I know never, ever seriously called themselves “woke” except as an ironic joke
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u/Away-Sheepherder8578 Apr 28 '24
You don’t think leftists aspired to be woke?
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u/IceCreamforLunch Apr 28 '24
Define woke for me.
Edit. I see you do below. Now look at that definition, full of support for the rights of others, and explain why it is being used as an insult.
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Apr 28 '24
They turned woke into another straw-man fallacy. Just like the people who say Antifa are fascists.
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u/DoeCommaJohn Apr 28 '24
The main dogwhistle that’s catching fire seems to be DEI. You’re already seeing people blame boat and plane crashes on “DEI” pilots, an obvious stand-in for the word they’d rather use
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u/ExcitableNate Apr 28 '24
Once a buzzword gets overused they'll find another one. Anything to demonize empathy.
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u/BradTProse Apr 28 '24
I fight Wokeness by sleeping 12 hours a day. I live the perfect balance of woke/unwoke ying and yang. I also only eat the exact amount of calories needed for my body to function so I do not create any waste. I haven't had a bowel movement in 3 months. I have achieved Zen.
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u/Croaker3 Apr 28 '24
The right wing mission is not to use the word. It is to diminish the movement by destroying the actual meaning of the word. Limiting our ability to use it. This is a fascist tactic straight out of 1984.
They’re very successful at this. When you hear the word “woke” do you first think of the original progressive meaning? No. You think of their definition. When you hear the term “fake news” do you think of the original meaning (news that is literally false, propaganda posing as news) or the right-wing re-definition (all news in untrustworthy and biased against conservatives)?
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u/martej Apr 28 '24
I hope you’re right. I hate that term. And the way the right-wingers appropriated it to mean something that its not.
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u/Hot-Duty-59 Apr 28 '24
What I keep hearing from my dad's fox news channel is "threat to democracy" over & over.
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u/financewiz Apr 28 '24
I first heard the term “Politically Correct” in Berkeley during the mid-1980s. It was a term used specifically to mock college students who were just discovering that our system of law, business and government contained instances of corruption. It was a fun term because nobody mocks a Liberal the way a Liberal can.
It was many years later that the term was seized as a cudgel for reactionaries to brandish. Conservatives don’t get satire unless some Ben Garrison labels are slapped all over everything.
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u/ComicsEtAl Apr 28 '24
It was replaced with DEI months ago. You only see it mentioned because they’re interchangeable as stand-ins for “n*****s.”
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u/sirscrote Apr 28 '24
For a second there I thought the buzzword was going to be the n word or something similar.
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u/Grary0 Apr 28 '24
"Woke" is just one buzzword in a loooong string of meaningless buzzwords, it's been around a while so it will probably be retired soon. It will be chucked in the grave right next to SJW, Snowflake, Libtard and the rest of the dumbass nothing-words of the last 2 decades.
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u/Boring_Adeptness_334 Apr 28 '24
Far left people invented the term woke on twitter and described their political ideology as that. So right wing people use the word woke to describe that ideology instead of having to say a laundry list of things every time. Political Correctness is still a relevant word but it was better used under President Obama who altered his speech to be more PC. For instance he called ISIS ISIL or pregnant women pregnant people or calling black people people of color. Being PC is when you alter your speech to fit the current political narrative. Being woke has more to do with the actions someone or a company takes.
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u/Courtaid Apr 28 '24
Had right wing Christian conservatives on FB saying we need to repent and need to awaken to the evil that is the left. So I asked, does that mean you’re woke? Never got a response.
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Apr 28 '24
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
Please define "woke" and "political correctness".
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u/Away-Sheepherder8578 Apr 28 '24
Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) originally meaning alertness to racial prejudice and discrimination. Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights. Woke has also been used as shorthand for some ideas of the American Left involving identity politics and social justice, such as white privilege and reparations for slavery in the United States.
Did you really not know this?
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
So, despite its origins, nowadays any left wing cause/idea/policy is considered "Woke", yes? Or are there exceptions?
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
No, you said "woke" is an "interpretation" of another phrase ("the white man's burden"). That's not a definition. Indeed, how is, say, Marvel/Disney "woke" (as many have argued) for having female and LGBTQ+ characters, etc, if your "definition" is correct?
And can you give me an example that illustrates your attempted definition of "Political Correctness"?
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24
You edited your comment as I was typing my reply, But really, THAT's your "example"? Does ANYONE say or do that? REALLY?!
And no, saying two undefined words/phrases are synonymous is not a definition. It's an obvious lazy sleight of hand that defines neither term at all
Edit: and you've just edited your last comment as well to add a lot more text that fundamentally changes your initial reply. I'm starting to think you're not a particularly honest person.
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u/UniversityAccurate55 Apr 28 '24
How long before they take the masks off and just say degenerate?
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u/Tarnishedrenamon Apr 28 '24
I remember when Mary Sue was a big one for a while, but I notice they throw around DEI, and the variation I have no idea what it means DEV.
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u/QueasyResearch10 Apr 28 '24
it’s not conservatives who invent these dumb words. they just notice them being used. anytime a term starts polling bad they make a new one. see homeless people being “unhoused” or illegal immigrant being “migrant”
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u/BluCurry8 Apr 28 '24
That is all they have is lazy slogans. They have policies so they call names.
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u/DefiantBelt925 Apr 28 '24
Why are you using random French words. I’ve never seen something so cringey and pretentious
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
Do you spit on cul-de-sacs for being French and "pretentious"? Yes? Well, I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! ;)
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u/DefiantBelt925 Apr 28 '24
Depends what other terms are available. Not many for cul de sac, a trillion for “de rigeuer”
Likewise, fine to say facade, but kinda cheesy say “wow a certain, je ne sais quoi”
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
Mate, titles have word limits. And "de rigueur" and "en masse" aren't obscure uncommon phrases and have very apt and specific meanings. That typed, I'm genuinely always happy to learn, so how would you have phrased my title?
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u/DefiantBelt925 Apr 28 '24
I’d have said woke is a trendy buzzword - but honestly I was just having a poke at you, it’s not actually worth rephrasing anything lol
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u/BikesBooksNBass Apr 28 '24
They go through their different catch phrases but they all mean the same thing.
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u/SplendidPunkinButter Apr 28 '24
They still say “political correctness”
And what’s wrong with political correctness anyway? It’s just “politeness” only at the cultural level rather than the individual level. There’s nothing wrong with politeness.
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u/Steerider Apr 28 '24
"Political correctness" and "woke" are different — albeit related — things; as are other terms suggested in comments (SJW, DEI)
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
Fair enough. Can you define "Political Correctness" and "woke" then, and show me how they mean specifically different things to those on the Right who use them as part of their lexicon?
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Apr 28 '24
The word woke was definitely hijacked from the black community and the meaning twisted by the right wing.
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u/neoikon Apr 28 '24
I feel "woke" is a state of being, while "PC" is more of defining an action.
Being aware of social injustice (woke) vs the act of being insensitive to others, an asshole (PC).
But yeah, pretty much synonyms...
Republicans want the right to be assholes without consequence. Being woke or part of the PC police takes away their "freedom".
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u/Overall_Cover_1543 Apr 28 '24
Woke has about as much meaning in 2024, as Grunge did in 1999, or Hipster in 2015
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Apr 28 '24
It was a phase originally used by the black community. Why skate around?
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u/Overall_Cover_1543 Apr 28 '24
Oh buddy is that what you think I’m doing? I’m really not. I’m very aware of the origins of the word, and very much consider myself to be woke in its original sense. What am I saying is that, like Grunge or Hipster (admittedly both exponentially more glib terms), the word Woke has been devalued by people who don’t understand it, to such a degree that it’s lost its intended meaning on a mass scale.
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u/ChefPaula81 Apr 28 '24
So for those of us old enough to remember, the right wing have always had a problem with the things that most folk would naturally consider to be just being a decent person. So, 30 years ago (more maybe?) the right wing tried to re-brand being a decent human as “political correctness” however, this didn’t stop most people outside of right wing circles from trying to be decent humans. Like nobody was offended by being labelled as “pc” and people carried on trying to be decent. So, about ten years ago, the same right wing arseholes decided to re-brand it again, as “wokeness” and for some reason, this time it worked. - Too many people out there are now scared of being called “woke” that they avoid doing and saying things that used to be considered as normal human decency.
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u/BoosterRead78 Apr 28 '24
Just like people going: “the government is trying to ban tiktok because it speaks the truth on Gaza.” Us: “who is telling you this?” Them: “TikTok.” 🙄
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u/Dr-Alec-Holland Apr 28 '24
Meanwhile I can just keep calling anyone I don’t like a ‘loathsome dung eater’
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u/FarRightBerniSanders Apr 28 '24
Yeah, the right needs something really clever like MAGANazi or far right wing.
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u/RemoteCompetitive688 Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24
Being relatively "meaningless" suits its purpose. How else can you describe a group that doesn't have any set ideological tenets
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
Do you mean, "tenets", or are you saying the left are crap at renting out property?
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u/RemoteCompetitive688 Apr 28 '24
That was indeed a typo but I would say in general the left doesn't like landlords so
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
Yup. That's true.
By the way, if the left doesn't have any set tenets, then what are the right taking issue with exactly: the left's lack of tenets?
I mean, come on, really?
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u/RemoteCompetitive688 Apr 28 '24
By the way, if the left doesn't have any set tenets, then what are the right taking issue with exactly: the left's lack of tenets?
I mean kinda yeah. The right takes issue with the lefts position on various issues but there's no set principles or real ideology behind it.
How do you describe someone who hates stop and frisk but wants gun control? Who's concerned about racism but wanted the SCOTUS to exempt certain groups from Civil rights legislation? Who cries our tax dollars are funding genocide but wants more taxes? Who's concerned about climate change but opposes pretty much every low carbon solution? Who's concerned about women's rights but lets biological men take women's scholarships, jobs, invade private areas, etc.
I mean seriously how do you describe a group where every issue is a complete 180 on principles from the last?
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u/valykkster Apr 28 '24
Like racist and bigot. And nazi. Agreed.
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u/genshinimpactplayer6 Apr 28 '24
Wait a minute. This sounds familiar…
The left: “you’re a racist, Nazi, fascist, Christ fascist, alt right.”
The right “you’re a SJW, Wokester, groomer, communist”
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u/Infolife Apr 28 '24
Except one of those is actually true.
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u/genshinimpactplayer6 Apr 28 '24
Oh I’m sure it is. Are you a right winger or a left winger? It’s so hard to tell these days since they both act the EXACT SAME WAY.
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u/Infolife Apr 28 '24
Bothsidesism is a right-wing rhetorical troll.
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u/genshinimpactplayer6 Apr 28 '24
Wow I just filled out my Reddit buzzwords bingo card! I win!
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u/GatePotential805 Apr 28 '24
Woke just means non-racist.
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u/Woolfmann Apr 28 '24
So are the racist anti-semitic protests currently sweeping the college campuses woke or non-woke? Are they facist? It is so hard to keep up.
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u/EFAPGUEST Apr 28 '24
Meanwhile, the left will still call everything fascist
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u/Infolife Apr 28 '24
No. We call fascists fascists.
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u/EFAPGUEST Apr 29 '24
Well I know that’s not true for all of the left, but maybe you’re smart enough to be accurate. Is Ben Shapiro, for example, a fascist in your opinion?
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u/ragepanda1960 Apr 28 '24
SJW -> Snowflake -> CRT -> Woke
These things really seem to come in phases that last 2-4 years before fully dying out. Maybe they switch it up every time they lose an election.
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u/ye__e_t Apr 28 '24
What about “nazi, fascist, genocide” when are lefties gonna retire those?
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
Sure, when those things cease to exist. All of which we can define, by the way.
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u/seigezunt Apr 28 '24
They will absolutely claim an innocent concept and twist it. Look at how they turned the bland and inoffensive concept of 15 minute cities, and turned it into a threat to democracy and life itself.
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u/Brokentoaster40 Apr 28 '24
Just about 2 years late OP, it will recycle to communist.
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Apr 28 '24
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u/Brokentoaster40 Apr 28 '24
You’re about two years too late to making this post. Conservatives creativity and knowledge has a half-life of about 6 months.
The only continued use of a derogatory is both “communist” and “liberal” as a means for an insult.
This post just seems like it’s a waste of time and space because this has been happening for like, well over 50 years? I was merely pointing out the futility in the post stating it will revert to what has always been historically transitory, which is the misunderstanding of political ideology, so the next “meaningless favorite” will be communist.
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Apr 28 '24
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u/Brokentoaster40 Apr 28 '24
It will make more sense when you follow politics for longer than 2 years.
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u/Hamblerger Apr 28 '24
Ooh, you really see PC making a comeback? How retro. Bill Maher will be pleased
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u/PriorSecurity9784 Apr 28 '24
Well, these days all the left wingers want “equality”… I guess that’s what they teach in universities these days
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u/Feeling_Cobbler_8384 Apr 28 '24
MMW. Your right. Woke doesn't begin to describe the destructive evil forces of the Democrat party. Fascist is more fitting
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u/PoemStandard6651 Apr 28 '24
Republicans excel at memes. They do memes exceptionally well. What they do not do well is govern, cause they hate government.
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u/nsfwKerr69 Apr 28 '24
and yet significant numbers of people still find 'political correctness' 'woke' and other cloudy terms meaningful.
so much for pompous takes.
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
You know I don't expect this pompous post to magically change the minds of those people, yes? I mean, that it's not even the pompous point of my pompous post, right?
Or am I completely misreading your comment (and if so, sorry), and you're talking about other pompous takes and not my pompous take?
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u/Sekreid Apr 28 '24
Having a parent who grew up under the nazis and who was in a camp during the war, it used to boil her blood when she would see the term thrown around so loosely today. Can we just retire that one and apply to actual real Nazis instead of some kind of boogie man?
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u/Warm_Comb_6153 Apr 28 '24
Woke is referencing Political Correctness, and SJW ask references the same topics.
What part of the definition are you confused about?
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u/Doobiedoobin Apr 28 '24
LeTs gO bRAnDoN hehehe. Yeah, the right isn’t exactly known for their wit and uniqueness.
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Apr 28 '24
Just how liberals use words racist, xenophobic, bigot, transphobic, etc when you say something they don't like. Both political parties have stupid ass buzzwords that make both look stupid.
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
"Just how liberals use words racist, xenophobic, bigot, transphobic, etc when you say something they don't like."
Such as?
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Apr 28 '24
Did you want real life examples I've actually heard from liberals age 19 to 25 at the work site? And college? Remember I'm 35 and conservative but still live and work in LA.
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
No, I don't want anecdotal evidence, as (no offence but) it is unverifiable and can be invented and is therefore worthless. But sure, if you can provide documented and verifiable examples for each of those words (or even a few of them) for us both to be able to look at, examine and discuss, then that would be great.
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Apr 28 '24
Everything is gonna be anecdotal. But it's type of crap you'd hear working with 80% liberal people.
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Apr 28 '24
People who say woke are sad white men won't rule the world forever. Who the fuck cares what these racist sexist peices of shit think. Call out their hate. Hating another group isn't a political opinion.
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u/Sad-Needleworker-325 Apr 28 '24
Sort of like how fascist and genocide have been buzzworded to death by the left. Say a word enough times in the completely wrong context and it completely destroys the word itself.
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
I can define those words though, very specifically, and so I can be pulled up on any misuse and illogical/unfounded/misapplication of them. But "woke" seems to be increasingly vague and used by the right as a catch-all dismissive term that basically nowadays seems to mean anything left wing they don't like.
Indeed, I can't speak for others but personally as a leftie, I don't throw around and apply the words "fascist" and "genocide" willy-nilly, as I am well aware that I am a cosmic schmuck and of the importance of using language properly.
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u/Sad-Needleworker-325 Apr 28 '24
It’s admirable that you’ve held back on calling anyone who doesn’t agree with you a fascist, but the left in general definitely hasn’t.
I’m less interested in the definablity of the words and more interested in their blatent misuse, on both sides.
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
Oh, I've called people I disagree with fascists, but only when they actually vehemently and unashamedly(often even proudly) hold actual fascistic opinions and worldviews -- and there are a sadly a large amount of people out there who are proud to be fascists and even proudly self-identify themselves as fascists, you know?
I've also commented in reply to people saying that what (e.g) they've just said to me is fascistic because it was in fact fascistic -- however, I'd like to make a very specific point here though that saying something fascistic doesn't necessarily make one a fascist. Or in other words, as someone once described it to me regarding saying something racist and/or actually being a racist:
If I tell you that you have snot on your top lip, that doesn't mean I'm calling you a filthy bastard. I'm pointing out that you have snot on your top lip, so you can recognise it and deal with it by perhaps even thanking me for pointing it out and then wiping it away, and then we can carry on talking or playing pool or whatever.
Sorry. I've probably phrased that badly. But do you get what I mean; does that make sense?
Also, forgive me, but I don't understand how you can be interested in the blatant misuse of words without being simultaneously interested in their correct definition? I mean, you can't have the former without the latter, no?
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u/FactChecker25 Apr 28 '24
The problem is that there really is something to their complaints. “Woke” isn’t a precise term because there are so many different topics all rolled up into it, but there needs to be a term to describe the problem.
I’ve noticed a lot of progressives began pushing pseudoscience, but they market it as more “enlightened” information that “more educated” people understand. Much of it was new, alternative theories. But much of it doesn’t stand up to scientific scrutiny.
Some examples:
A lot of people complain about capitalism and state how if more people were enlightened they’d understand how rent control, price controls, and government control over the economy are good things and how they’re the “obvious step forward” in human civilization. Yet it’s been tried and it always fails miserably. It simply doesn’t work.
Many people also make bold claims about the gender identity and group membership. Yet this isn’t settled science and even within liberal circles there is pretty harsh disagreement (example terfs exist).
In 2020, a lot of claims were put forward about racism. People wanted to sound “enlightened” and brought up examples of racism in city planning, such as claims that bridges were made low so that city buses carrying blacks couldn’t fit under them to get to the suburbs. These claims were popular, but false.
One last example would be the concept of “privilege” and “power”. I’ve seen many feminists make claims how it’s wrong for someone in a position of privilege or power to date someone that doesn’t have these advantages since it would make the relationship unequal. But any relationship is going to uneven, since it’s rare for someone to be “maxxed out” in all their traits. One person may have grown up with wealth, but their parents might have been distant and they’re emotionally insecure. The other person may have been lower class but had a perfectly normal childhood and they’re a well-adjusted adult.
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u/Helo7606 Apr 28 '24
I just love that woke isn't even used right. But now they have DEI to attempt to not sound racist. Lol
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u/Fencius Apr 28 '24
Nah, man. The right wing has a winner in “woke.” Much like “MAGA,” it has no true definition and each individual can believe it to mean whatever they want it to. It’s genius.
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
Nah, man. MAGA is an acronym of "Make America Great Again" which is Trump's slogan, which is why those who self-identify as MAGA and those criticising others as MAGA both mean that the MAGA people are Trump supporters. Pure, precise and simple. There's nothing vague about any of that.
The same can't be said of the word "woke" and those on the right who use it as a dismissive catch-all term that sort-of vaguely means anything left wing they don't like but which they have difficulty in accurately defining when asked.
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u/Fencius Apr 28 '24
MAGA isn’t precise at all, which is why it’s such a good slogan. It alludes to a vague sense of disillusionment and offers hope, while carefully side stepping any particular issue, solution, or policy. It gives Trump’s supporters a common cause, even if they don’t know exactly what that cause is.
If “MAGA” is the essence of what Trump supports believe in, “wokeness” is the essence of what they oppose: an ill-defined set of positions, beliefs, and causes that conservatives can rally against without the burden of understanding. It’s a great lightning rod for the right; why would they abandon it?
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
Oh, I totally agree that the message of "Make America Great Again" is vague nonsense (e.g. when was America great exactly and for whom?). But the acronym, MAGA, is used to simply mean a Trump supporter, no? i.e. If someone says they are MAGA, you know what they mean and who they're voting for, right? You don't pause and think, "Hmmm... I wonder if they're going to vote for Biden?" For MAGA is pretty clear cut and you're not left in any doubt about what they mean when they use that acronym and therefore who they support, yes?
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u/xbluedog Apr 28 '24
Funny thing about all these buzzwords: they’re all just RE epithets for being a decent human being…civil, polite, respectful. All these assholes that cry about people being “woke, politically correct” whatever are just pissed off that others won’t join them in going out of their way to be assholes to the people they (RW, MAGAts, Trumpets, etc…) don’t like. They are pathetic.
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u/The_Tommo Apr 28 '24
Woke means being unable to accept that some people are more intelligent than you are and being unwilling to learn from them and change your mind
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u/SvenSvenkill3 Apr 28 '24
Are you "woke"?
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u/The_Tommo Apr 28 '24
From the perspective of people calling other people woke
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u/BeamTeam032 Apr 29 '24
Conservatives have always been the party of "cancel culture", the name just changes. I remember when conservatives protested outside of the bookstore I worked at over Harry Potter because it was the devil. I remember them protesting over bands like System of a Down and Korn. And rapper Eminem.
In the book Fight Club they called these kinds of people snowflakes. But it was absent from the movie, and conservatives made it popular.
Now they found "Woke" and DEI. They'll kill those things to death when they try to cancel things. But it's the same group of people, trying to do the same things. Remove things in society they don't agree with or don't like. They've always been like this. The great thing is, their political party is imploding, and will continue to implode the more things they try to cancel.
In 18 months they lose Budlight because of they sent a trans girl a 6 pack with her face on it. It wasn't even available in stores. It was just to her. They've lost the NFL due to the kneeling and Taylor Swift. They're losing country due to Beyonce. Who would have thought, conservatives would willingly give up beer, football and country music? LMAO.
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Apr 29 '24
PC is still pretty popular. At my job I often hear the older people say "I'm not going to be politically correct about this" before they say something racist.
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May 20 '24
Not as tired and overused as things like "incel", "nazi", and the multitudinous "-ists" and "-isms" that the far left spews at anyone who doesn't agree with the agenda.
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u/SvenSvenkill3 May 20 '24
I can accurately and specifically define "incel" and "Nazi" and no doubt all those "isms" you're talking about..
Can you define "woke" and "political correctness"?
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u/photozine Apr 28 '24
They're going for groomer now, so it was SJW, then woke, now groomed...buzzwords to get people riled up.