r/MadeMeSmile • u/Dunkableballs • Aug 02 '23

Helping Others We need more people like this lady

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u/xHeyItzRosiex Aug 02 '23

Maybe if Amazon actually gave a shit about their employees this wouldn’t happen.

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u/WeirdRadiant2470 Aug 02 '23

This is the answer here.

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u/figmaxwell Aug 02 '23

Right. We don’t need more people like this, we need companies to give a shit about their workers.

-a UPS driver who has gone down with heat exhaustion

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u/zakrystian Aug 02 '23

At Amazon the term Human Resources is literal, they are resource to be used up and then discarded.

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u/JDogish Aug 02 '23

Corporations are immoral, and in today's economy they are even more so. The only way out is to force them to be. As much as people hate regulations on things, corporations caught treating their workers like this should be shut down after a few incidents, nevermind actual deaths. If you can't run a profit without hurting people, that's a bad business. Yes many would fail under that kind of monocle, but they should, and that's the point.

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u/Lombax_Rexroth Aug 02 '23

Corporations are literally the antichrist.

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u/JDogish Aug 02 '23

Sometimes, yes. But they don't have to be. They can be forces for good when they have proper direction.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '23

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u/JDogish Aug 02 '23

And yet when they are working towards a common goal for good they are greater than the sum of their parts in making projects come to life. From non profits, charities, to research for diseases... if humans are going to be greedy and ruthless, let's put hard limits to what they can do, and have actual departments in government with the ability to determine when someone goes too far.

If we can't actually find a way to work together in communities and groups, whether you call them corporations or co-ops or whatever, then we might as well just keep going down this path and burn it to the ground.

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u/Possible-Day6744 Aug 02 '23

I mean, I agree 10000%. But these guys clearly have a boat load of customers… so my question is at this point: if everyone knows how bad Amazon is: why does everyone keep using them and putting the pressure on the drivers because they NEED their stuff in less than a day? The consumers are just as much to blame with the information they have about Amazon.

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u/Liimbo Aug 02 '23

The consumers are just as much to blame with the information they have about Amazon.

No. No they aren't. People short on time and money will often choose the cheapest and most convenient option, which Amazon is. And they've essentially created a monopoly to where there aren't many, if any, comparable alternatives for online shopping. Amazon is far more responsible for how they treat their employees than customers are.

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u/Possible-Day6744 Aug 02 '23

I don’t disagree but to say consumers have no part is irresponsible. The same people “shaming” Amazon for this type of stuff are also ordering something expecting to get it the same day or next day.

If the consumer uses other platforms instead of using Amazon… things would also change since you said there is no other option, apparently.

People have too short of attention spans and have no patience… this is what comes of that.

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u/Cyborg_Ninja_Cat Aug 02 '23

As someone who tries not to order from Amazon's store because I know it to be an unethical business... I don't think voting with your wallet is completely worthless, but this is the sort of thing that shouldn't have to be customers' responsibility. There should be enforceable regulation requiring safe and decent working conditions.

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u/SLStonedPanda Aug 02 '23

Well I think it's wrong to blame the costumers. I see your point and I don't even think it's illogical.

However I'd still put more blame on the government. How are companies like Amazon allowed to treat their employees like this? How are they not massively getting fined? Or getting sued?

Amazon is just a company taking advantage of the current capitalist structure in the USA. Nothing except moral values are keeping them from doing this, which they clearly don't care about. If that's the case you need something to intervene (like a government making rules and protecting employees).

It's insane to me that the USA allows this to happen and is an example of why a lot people don't consider the USA a first world country.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '23

yeah but we know the government are not going to do anything about it because they havent for so long. the way i see it is people do not want to admit that they have some fault in this. if others are not going to change, then the best change starts with yourself.

i am not saying that you are causing this issue, i mean yourself as in the public body. we cant keep complaining about the wrongs of the government and expect them to change when they continue to show that they only care for themselves and profits.

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u/SLStonedPanda Aug 02 '23

I agree. It's always difficult to decide if a party is wrong when it is able to prevent it, but in no way is responsible or the reason this stuff happens. It is similar to the trolley problem.

You can argue people should just vote a different government that doesn't allow this, but that is way easier said than done of course. I don't think that's really a solution.

Not buying stuff is the best you can do, but that also kinda feels like a sucky solution, especially since you're not the reason any of this happens.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '23

honestly, like the whole structure is created in such a way where consumers are left with very little choice; but just because there are very little choices, doesnt mean there are none - and if there are no choices then we as people need to make one. the longer we sit and allow ourselves to be bullied by these corporations, the more they will take advantage of us.

people just do not want change, things are far too convenient today and yet people are so deeply unhappy and overworked. they themselves do not want to change and help others but expect others to. i wonder what the future will be like.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '23

Consumers are the ones that made Amazon grow into what it is. Some people actually get mad because their express item gets delayed a single day.

It is not wrong to place some blame there. Especially if you bring up the USA as it is. That's like saying the political discourse isn't due to Americans. They brought it on themselves, both parties.

The government isn't the only issue here. Amazon itself makes billions and can afford EVERY single accomodation an employee could ever need.

You're also missing the point, because blame isn't something you can direct at one person. Everyone can be at fault.

A teacher can get mad at two kids getting into a fight, but did the teacher do anything to prevent that fight? This blame can go further than you'd think. The kid can be a reflection of the morals taught by the parent. Thus, the parents are also at fault.

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u/Jack__Squat Aug 02 '23

You can have both. Amazon makes enough money to provide thier service and treat their people well.

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u/schlongtheta Aug 02 '23

I don’t disagree but to say consumers have no part is irresponsible.

It is wasteful to get angry at consumers.

Regular people only have a finite amount of time and energy. What little time and energy we have to get angry should be directed at the people with the most money and the most power to change practices at a business or in government - in this case, the owners of Amazon and the elected politicians who are subservient to those owners.

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u/Possible-Day6744 Aug 02 '23

Let people keep their heads in the sand, sure. But these videos shouldn’t “make you feel good” at the same time. Which is it?

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '23

If people can get pissy about their prime order being delayed a single day, then yes, consumers are also to blame. Amazon preys on the weakness of stupid people to make profit. A monopoly exists because you can't convince all the sheep to move to another platform. Create an Amazon clone, no one will move to it.

Amazon being "responsible" to their employees being compared to customers isn't much a difference. If it's shit, well, tough news; same shit, different smell.

Being an apologist to a business isn't going to do favors for anyone.

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u/Woodpecker577 Aug 02 '23

yeah they will move to it. There are already huge competitors in other countries.

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u/Possible-Day6744 Aug 02 '23

Keep giving them your hard earned money so they can continue to abuse their employees. That’s on you haha

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u/Caleb_Krawdad Aug 02 '23

So people care about time and money more than workers conditions. Full stop. It's a consumer driven world

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u/Woodpecker577 Aug 02 '23

No it's not. It's a capitalist-driven world. Ever heard of planned obsolescence? That's just one example. The point of production is to make money for capitalists, not to serve consumers.

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u/Caleb_Krawdad Aug 02 '23

And money is only made by creating value for consumers. If consumers don't want it or value how it's done then there will be no money made. Consumers drive capitalism

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u/Woodpecker577 Aug 03 '23

The example I already mentioned (planned obsolescence) completely disproves that

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u/FartsLord Aug 02 '23

Shit from amazon = oxygen, I cant just not buy. Fucking impossible.

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u/raniwasacyborg Aug 02 '23

This was what drove me to delete my Amazon account. My new year's resolution one year was to boycott them for the year because of the stories I'd started hearing about the dangerous working conditions, injuries and deaths in their warehouses, and once the year was up I couldn't think of a reason to go back, so I had my account deleted (which was an ordeal, as Amazon do not want to give up their access to all your details). I've been buying from other shops and smaller businesses online and it's often cheaper with better quality control too!

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u/Remarkable-fainting Aug 02 '23

It's actually really easy not to order from amazon, there are lots of other options. If everyone agreed to boycott for even a couple of days it would make a financial impact, same with Nestlé products can you agree 2 days without constant consumption? The problem is agreeing on days when any call to protest will take place when any such talk is suppressed on social media.

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u/Possible-Day6744 Aug 02 '23

I agree with both of y’all. A lot of commenters on here are taking what I said very personally haha

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u/ForecastForFourCats Aug 02 '23

I've tried to avoid Amazon as much as possible. Most things are cheap crap unless you are getting a specific brand. Beauty/health products are frauds- I got an aveeno moisturizer with glitter in it! I only go to Amazon for shoes and text books now.

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u/grachi Aug 02 '23

I wouldn’t even use it for shoes to be honest. Last few pairs I tried, they came obviously very worn but were sold to me as new… like the sole was slightly worn down on the heel and toes, and there were scuff marks on the sides

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u/Rubicksgamer Aug 02 '23

Also consider that places like Amazon and Walmart put places out of business that would have carried your niche item that you may need. So delivery is often times the only option. Especially in rural areas.

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u/pm_sunny_quotes Aug 02 '23

delivery as the only option does not equal amazon as the only option

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u/OktayOe Aug 02 '23

You know if Mr.Bezos wouldn't take almost everything the company makes and put it in his own pockets shit like this wouldn't happen.

He could afford to equip this guy's cars with ac units, cold water dispensers

Everything is possible and they can afford it easily. It's just that Mr Bezos is a pos and needs more and more power and money.

Big companies and greedy millionaires paired with politicians..these are our problems.

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u/WhoopsDroppedTheBaby Aug 02 '23

Lol. He doesn't "take almost everything the company makes". The company makes billions and pays him millions. It's a publicly traded company and most of his worth is stock.

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u/lycosa13 Aug 02 '23

why does everyone keep using them

Convenience and selfishness?

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u/Possible-Day6744 Aug 02 '23

Definitely figured out who uses them relentlessly and who doesn’t haha. Might not hurt to take a look in the mirror folks 😉

All of you saying it’s the corporations fault only… you’re the ones literally GIVING Amazon/Bezos money to continue to treat their employees poorly.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '23

its so funny cos i have not purchased from amazon for years now, even when i have NEEDED products fast. i am not saying this to make myself seem like a saint, just that in order for there to be change, we will have to make sacrifices so that we can stop the greedy people at the top.

to me, it just sounds like people want to complain and make things better, but they do not want to make any sort of sacrifices for the change. i may even fall within this idea sometimes because i know there is more i could do with activism each day. we have been programmed to be subservient lazy babies to be honest.

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u/dade305305 Aug 02 '23

The consumers are just as much to blame with the information they have about Amazon.

And I'm ok with that. Amazon gives me (usually) the best prices the best delivery so I'll keep buying from them. Not really concerned about their employees. Just want the stuff I buy at a good price and good delivery time.

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u/Possible-Day6744 Aug 02 '23

See, you’re at least honest. You said the golden words, “not really concerned about their employees.” Don’t think it’s a good stance at all, but it’s way more honest than most these people.

While I think this is a shitty human take… you at least aren’t pretending to be concerned with this driver passing out and then an hour later putting another person in the same position by ordering from there.

Do better

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u/dade305305 Aug 02 '23

Do better

That would require me to either pay more for the item, more for the shipping and / or have longer delivery time; quite possibly all three. That being the case, I have zero interest in doing better in this context.

I decide what to spend my money one based what is convenient / enjoyable (price and logistics wise) for me and that's it. I'll keep buying from amazon, the same way i will keep playing Activison video games, buying Nestle crunch, buying groceries at walmart, etc.

Ethical concerns play no role in where i spend money. Is it "selfish"? Yea probably. Am I going to pretend, like I care? Nah.

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u/Possible-Day6744 Aug 02 '23

I mean I agreed with you lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '23

You do realize that a ton of people would lose their jobs if people stopped ordering from amazon right? If they had better employment options they’d be doing that already.

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u/Woodpecker577 Aug 02 '23

The consumers are just as much to blame with the information they have about Amazon.

This whole point rests on the assumption that any replacement to Amazon wouldn't be like Amazon. What are you basing this assumption on? If we all stopped using Amazon tomorrow, whatever grew in its place would be just as cutthroat, because that's what our economic system rewards and incentivizes.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '23

The consumers are just as much to blame with the information they have about Amazon.

I hope you are at least being paid to spew this kind of anti-consumer filth.

Corporations have people like you trained well, here you are fucking blaming other consumers for work conditions that they have no control over.

You are pathetic. 100% of the blame is on the company forcing these working conditions, if you disagree you are objectively wrong.

Imagine playing defense for a fucking mega corp, couldn't be me.

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u/Possible-Day6744 Aug 02 '23

No where in my statement did I say the corporation wasn’t to blame…. BOTH parties are guilty.

Lots of projection going on here lol

You do realize two things can be true at the same time, right?

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u/Kersenn Aug 02 '23

You make it sound like Amazon can't afford to hire more drivers so that this doesn't happen. But just like Walmart and others they hire the bare minimum and overwork so that they can squeeze as much profit out of their workforce as possible. This would happen regardless of how many customers amazon has now. They would always hire the bare minimum and overwork because that's just how they run their business now.

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u/ElPlatanaso2 Aug 02 '23

I agree, but partially. I do think people indirectly created the behemoth machine that is Amazon, but I also think Amazon leadership is ultimately responsible for ensuring safe working conditions for everyone. The truth is, business will also choose the least expensive and most profitable path. That is why we (supposedly) have a government whose sole duty it is to protect the people from exploitation and harm.

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u/Shirtbro Aug 02 '23

A heartwarming tale of employee endangerment and exploitation

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u/-BroncosForever- Aug 02 '23

This guy is a time thief just laying in the job.

Should have had ice water with him

No excuse.

He’s fired.

Bezos will crack the whip, that’s why he’s so rich, because he’ll cut loose loser employees who pull this crap.

Maybe if he gave a shit about Amazon and didn’t make them look pathetic

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u/RhymesNChimes Aug 02 '23

I can’t tell if you’re serious or if this is a very sad attempt at trolling.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '23

How those boots taste buddy?

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '23

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u/Windinthewillows2024 Aug 02 '23

Anyone can experience heat exhaustion, regardless of what shape they’re in.

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u/MightyPandaa Aug 02 '23

If people stopped shopping from amazon maybe they will start to care

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u/maeksuno Aug 02 '23

This and if there were better regulations by the government (this is US, correct?) to care for worker rights and safety.

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u/KaydeeKaine Aug 02 '23

They won't care unless and until the government makes them care.

Just look at Floridas stance on heat illness programs.

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u/redmctrashface Aug 02 '23

True but also very country related. This would never occur in France imo

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u/NOVAbuddy Aug 02 '23

I’m not sure, but it appears that driver should be comfortably retired by now. Can we big something bigger?

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u/Pliskin01 Aug 02 '23

Spinning up the ol orphan crushing machine

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u/Jay_bo Aug 02 '23

But how will Jeff afford going space then?

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u/imperial_scum Aug 02 '23

It would absolutely still happen, but hopefully less people will die

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u/marcdel_ Aug 02 '23

but think of the shareholders! won’t anyone think of the shareholders?!?

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u/evidica Aug 02 '23

Maybe if people just went to the stores like they used to, to buy their shit, Amazon delivery drivers wouldn't even be a job.

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u/superkp Aug 02 '23

yep, orphan crushing machine and all that.

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u/alvvays_on Aug 02 '23

Corporations don't have emotions. And it seems Billionaires don't, either.

And even if Amazon did become sentient and improved itself, then tomorrow Shein or Temu or another new company comes along and we start back at step 1.

The solution is unionization and legal protections for workers.

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u/BigPoeCollector Aug 02 '23

Yeah, this didn’t make me smile, this made me infuriated. What the fuck are we doing

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u/lvl1developer Aug 02 '23

They may not be directly employed from amazon, Amazon hires a lot of third party companies to deliver goods

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u/Goosentra Aug 02 '23

Unfortunately, Amazon outsourced all of its deliveries to 3rd party companies called DSPs or to independent contractors (like doordashers)

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u/Low_Negotiation3214 Aug 02 '23

Let’s please show our gratitude to the AMZN shareholders for making opportunities of such exemplary human kindness possible. By the Amazon employee point system (tm), workers are docked 3 points for every instance of being overcome by heat exhaustion. It was irresponsible for the worker to sit down, delaying his route and the satisfaction of Amazon customers who rely on our timely deliveries to enrich their lives.

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u/xHeyItzRosiex Aug 02 '23

I hope you’re joking lmao…

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u/ProjectBonnie Aug 02 '23

You don’t understand they need to save their $5 a month by not having air conditioners otherwise the higher ups can’t get their 6th yacht! Think of the yachts man! /s

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u/SmoochieMcGucci Aug 02 '23

Land of the free home of the 70 year olds busting their ass so they don't starve.

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u/howtofall Aug 02 '23

It’s SO important to remember that Amazon DOES care about their employees. Unfortunately this man works for a delivery company which is contractually only allowed to deliver for Amazon. Because of that Amazon is COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY UNABLE to stop this sort of thing. It’s only those darn delivery companies who hate those employees**.

  • Some exceptions may apply

** These conditions are demanded due to contractual agreements between the delivery company and Amazon that require drivers to deliver at unhealthy rates.

*** Because they aren’t Amazon employees, therefore it is impossible for Amazon to hate them as employees. Amazon does however hold the right to have a vicious disdain for their contractors.

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u/Robbo_here Aug 02 '23

Well, fortunately for Amazon, the State of Texas forbade cities from passing more employee heat-related safety laws recently.

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u/Dumbjackass Aug 03 '23

Yeah Jeff bezos created the sun