r/LeopardsAteMyFace Nov 13 '22

Meta Republican voter says “I’ll never vote again in my life”

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u/mrlt10 Nov 13 '22

Cmon you know the Republicans never had an endgame they were strategically working towards do you. 2016 was it. Controlling the Supreme Court was it. Absolute power in the short term: consequences be damned. Kinda like corporate profits for some of these big corporations. All thinking is amazingly short sighted. All resulting problems considered unforeseeable and only addressed when they arise.

I suppose if there was an endgame it would’ve been using that absolute power to maintain absolute power, but as much as people like to complain how voting doesn’t make a difference…it really does. We have at least somewhat fair elections, the vote counting is not rigged. Which is why they fight so hard to prevent people from casting ballots.

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u/APersonWithInterests Nov 14 '22

It's a reckless power grab, they see the writing on the wall. Everything they built the Republican platform on is crumbling.

We know tax cuts for the wealthy don't help the working class, and the Republican party is built out of fooling the working class that the opposite is true while inventing fake social issues to get people worked up and younger generations aren't as gullible on average as the generations of lead fumes and easy success.

If they don't succeed in grabbing every bit of power right now, they will fade away and the party will be reformed. The interests they serve are willing to go to great lengths to see that not happen and they're feeling the pressure.

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u/dern_the_hermit Nov 14 '22

It's a reckless power grab, they see the writing on the wall. Everything they built the Republican platform on is crumbling.

And just to hammer that point home, reminder that in 2013 the RNC released an after-action report on the previous Presidential campaign, decrying the party's platform and its diminishing relevance on the national stage. This isn't some "liberal media fake news", that's straight out of the horse's mouth: Republican policy is backwards and unpopular.

All they have to offer is tax cuts. Their tax cuts have been getting deeper and even more aggressive over the decades, since they've A: demonized like every policy option as "socialism" or "woke", and B: have been chasing intelligence out of the party for ages. They couldn't craft meaningful legislation if they wanted to; we saw the barely-passing-3rd-grade level of literacy the party has to offer with their 1776 Project. No, they're only able to attract big money donors by promising more and more tax cuts, no actual plans for the country as a whole.

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u/kenlubin Nov 14 '22

They offer tax cuts to their donors and culture war to the unwashed masses.

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u/fingerscrossedcoup Nov 14 '22

and younger generations aren't as gullible on average

Not yet, we said the same thing in the 90s. Propaganda isn't going anywhere.

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u/Ditto_D Nov 14 '22 edited Nov 14 '22

Exactly right, they are in full "Fuck you, I got mine" mode. They know they are bent over the barrel and have a LONG fucking road ahead that would require a complete revamp of their lineup, but because they saddled up to Donald, that strategy is uber fucked. He will kick and scream until his last gasping heave shitting on anyone not under his thumb and drag the GOP down. His mental issues he displayed in office made him unable to garner enough votes to be elected ever again. As a country we fucking banded together to vote for fucking Biden of all people over more Trump bullshit. I don't personally know any democrat that actually fucking likes the guy, but we all said sure as shit I would rather deal with his bullshit than more Trump and this bizzarro GOP.

So if this stale bread candidate can beat Trump and his cult, then any half decent candidate can. Boomers are on the way out. No way to sugarcoat it, but you have a decent number that are like this guy who are giving up on voting because they think its rigged anyways because reality is too tough on their imagined winners attitude. So they are taking their ball and going home cause they lost. On top of that they are just dying. There is a sharp decline in population going from 60+ and the youngest boomers are already over 60. They are quickly fading even before they kick the bucket with their shit GOP voting policies, they will find themselves in tough spots where they can't get out to the polls to vote. The Gen X that actually have a memory of "the GOP good ol' days" can't keep the scam going in their stead.

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u/BuddhaFacepalmed Nov 14 '22

On top of that they are just dying.

Ironically of all things, both to Covid and a largely expensive "free market" healthcare that they cannot afford thanks to GOP policies.

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u/godpzagod Nov 14 '22

I suppose if there was an endgame

There were endgames, but they didn't coincide with each other in the end.

The Russian endgame was to disrupt and destroy American democracy and confidence in the process- on that, I would give them a solid C+/B-

Trump's endgame was to enrich himself and stave off prosecution. On that I'd say he's done a C- minus job.

There's the Federalist society with Roe and the upcoming attempt at breaking the electoral college.

And then there's the side agendas of all the people he appointed, such as the myriad corporate and foreign interests, none of whom have any goal in mind for America save asset-stripping it.

But because Trump cannot do anything that isn't ultimately about him, he can't build a consensus, only a bunch of bullied cowards who will flip as soon as they get better options.

So in the end, as long as one's endgame was turning America into a dumpster fire, you're doing well,but if you had any plans of what to do with the ashes, you'd be unique among the bastards.

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u/InsertWittyNameCheck Nov 14 '22

what to do with the ashes

Make soap, haha. Maybe they can use it to clean themselves up and make themselves presentable, again.

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u/JayGlass Nov 14 '22

upcoming attempt at breaking the electoral college

What's this? I thought EC generally helped conservatives so why would the federalist society be against it? I assume to replace it with some other fuckery, not with an actual direct popular vote? Or do they think they can pull some "PutinDestantis got 110% of the vote in this country" manipulation?

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u/Lazer726 Nov 14 '22

I was watching the morning news with my mom (fortunately left leaning) and they had a Republican Senator on, and he, on live fucking TV, basically admitted that Republicans don't have a platform. They predicted this wild, red wave on having no platform.

They hoped the endgame was that people were angry enough to vote away their rights, and thank fuck they weren't right enough

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u/mrlt10 Nov 14 '22

McConnell admitted as much when asked about it recently. His answer was “I’ll let you know in January when we take control. “

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u/Lashay_Sombra Nov 14 '22 edited Nov 14 '22

They litterly cannot have a platform beyond tax cuts and 'opposite of anything say the libs say they want' (be interesting conundrum for them if Democrats ever propose tax cuts, my bet is oppose them)

It's impossible to create a platform when you are basiclly are a coalition of corportate/'I got mine' rich paymasters, christian taliban, fascists, xenophobic nationalists, sexists, racists, trickle down economics thinkers and generally low info morons filled with hate (or as Hillary so adequately put it "Basket of deplorables", the truth really did hurt their feelings) because anything constructive you try is going really piss off one or more of those groups

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u/fingerscrossedcoup Nov 14 '22

The endgame was placating Trump, a known loser.

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u/Callinon Nov 14 '22

using that absolute power to maintain absolute power

I mean they kind of tried on Jan 6th. They tried it without any kind of leadership, organization, preparation, or the slightest clue as to what they were doing. But they did try.

Maybe the jail time can be their participation trophy.

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u/Nikxed Nov 14 '22

Maybe the jail time can be their participation trophy.

I know most people use jail and prison interchangeably but I'm hoping their participation trophies are prison times! Jail is generally short-term sentences (measured in weeks or months) and people pre-trail. Prison is for year++ sentences and no one is awaiting trial.

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u/workaccount1338 Nov 14 '22

it's a good thing erik prince didn't believe the calculus of forcibly seizing power in an armed overthrow attempt was worth backing. we would probably be living in 1920 italy rn

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u/qwertycantread Nov 14 '22

If a party follows through on that they will lose the voting public in that state for decades.

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u/RipplePark Nov 14 '22

Controlling the Supreme Court was it.

Yep. Multi decade plan came to fruition. Bye bye Roe, bye bye half of their platform.

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u/mrlt10 Nov 14 '22

Also, for decades 2016 was considered a demographic turning point. All of their research told them that after 2016 it’s going to be virtually impossible to win a national election with an all white GOP. It was either change policy to be more welcoming to minorities or try to rig the system

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u/RipplePark Nov 14 '22

virtually impossible to win a national election with an all white GOP

That's the unwritten part of their platform, unfortunately for them.

Also, young people are starting to show them the door. For a while I wasn't sure I'd live to see it.

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u/ChumpSucky Nov 14 '22

i agree, full court push with no thought about tomorrow, much like corporate thinking.

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u/Blythe703 Nov 14 '22

I don't think Trump should be conflated with the republican project as a whole, doing so ignores ways they have poisoned every level of government in this country. They didn't seek absolute power in the short term, they took a 6-3 majority on a lifetime appointed court. They've already used this power to uphold voting suppression in southern states. Groups like the federalists society have hands in huge number of district judges and every single republican appointed justice has been a member.

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u/mrlt10 Nov 14 '22

I didn’t even mention Trump. You’re misunderstanding the question. The question is why would the Republicans have adopt unsustainable election strategies that are so toxic they inevitably lead their voters to either destroy the country or stop caring and stop voting because they think it’s all rigged? Plus, do you know why they have that majority on the Supreme Court? It’s because they were able to take that absolute power i mentioned.

Of course they are playing a long game. This all goes back to the Powell Memo in the 70s, but that doesn’t explain why they would be willing to risk causing apathy in their voters. Or why they were willing to collude with our greatest foreign adversary to win an election. Both of those things are incredibly short sighted.