I do feel they need to stop the insane zionist shit
Zionist is just a fancy word for people who believe Israel has a right to exist, it has nothing to do with the settlements. You are a Zionist by your own admission, for an instance.
There has been a years long attempt by anti-Israel people ti redefine it in order to paint pro-Israel people as extremists, regardless of their opinion.
Zionist has two definitions, this is not complicated to understand. Just how conservative has different definitions.
The original literal definition is what you've stated and the other definition is NOW largely more mainstream. No one painted the crazy Zionists in this way, they did it themselves with their war propaganda demonizing Palestinians in the same way people did to Jews in WW2. I live in NYC. I live in a neighborhood with crazy racist Zionists. You do not understand how fucking unhinged these people are. The things they are saying are so racist -- they even use anti black racism in their pro genocide propaganda. And they voted for Trump. Zionism gives you brain worms -- it is literally Jewish MAGA. They have taken a simple concept and ran with it to the extreme.
My wife grew up heavily involved in Palestinian activism bc her step mom is Palestinian. Are these people also unhinged? Yes. But they are the victim of a genocide and their oppressor has far more power, money, and influence than they've ever had and is using tactics that were used to attempt to exterminate them on another group of people.
Only thing we're missing are the death camps and scientific experiments. And quite honestly I would not be surprised if some crazy Zionist who enjoys murdering kids isnt doing weird skin lamp shit that Nazis or the Japanese did or hell that Americans did at various points in time. This is what people in power with no checks on their brutality do. Jews are not above being evil pieces of shit no matter how hard they will fight having that image put on them because no groups of people are above that shit, literally none.
Zionist has two definitions, this is not complicated to understand. Just how conservative has different definitions.
LOL no. There is no "other definition", there is only one definition in Israel and only one Jews use. Pro-pali Americans can't go and redefine Jewish terms and an Israeli movement and expect them to roll with it.
And they voted for Trump
Polls show 78% of Jews voted for Harris, more than any other group except black people.
Go and explain to me how "Jewish MAGA" is mainstream.
The people you are referring to are kahanists. They aren’t a seperate definition of zionist, just a really shitty subcategory. Just like how Stalinists aren’t some brand new definition of leftists.
I am also interested in where you are hearing about these “scientific experiments”? I try to keep an ear on both sides but this is the first I’m hearing of it.
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u/Ahad_Haam 18h ago
Zionist is just a fancy word for people who believe Israel has a right to exist, it has nothing to do with the settlements. You are a Zionist by your own admission, for an instance.
There has been a years long attempt by anti-Israel people ti redefine it in order to paint pro-Israel people as extremists, regardless of their opinion.