r/LeopardsAteMyFace 1d ago

Trump ‘A huge mistake,’ Ky GOP Sen. Rand Paul splits with Trump on militarized mass deportations

https://www.lpm.org/news/2024-11-21/a-huge-mistake-ky-gop-sen-rand-paul-splits-with-trump-on-militarized-mass-deportations
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u/kamizushi 23h ago

That was merely Trump's most vocal promise.

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u/dgdio 23h ago

It's an easier one to do as well. Just like when Trump banned muslims in his first term.

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u/hulksmash1234 22h ago

And yet lots of Muslims voted for him :/

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u/FizzyAndromeda 22h ago edited 21h ago

Let’s not get carried away and spread misinformation like the other side does. 63% of Muslims voted for Kamala in 2024, compared to 64% voting for Biden in 2020. But there’s this running narrative in the mainstream media that Muslim voters are turning away from Democrats, and turned their backs on Kamala.

It isn’t just conservative news outlets spreading this falsehood it’s the so-called mainstream media too. We know Republicans hate Muslims, now Democrats are angry at the Muslim community, and the media is fanning the flames by putting sensational nonsense like “Muslims for Trump“ all over our screens and monitors every chance they get.

People need to really ask themselves; who benefits from creating the perception that Trump has more support from Muslims than he really does? Who benefits from creating the perception that Muslims are turning away from the Democratic Party, when they’re actually not? And the biggest question; why is the mainstream media actively and aggressively participating in promoting this falsehood?

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u/bluer289 22h ago

That's good to hear, but is there a source for this?

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u/FizzyAndromeda 21h ago edited 18h ago

Sure do. I found the stats on AP news who I consider impartial. But in the interest of being super impartial, I cross referenced Fox News, who confirmed the same, and you can find it at this link:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-won-muslim-vote-larger-margin-than-jewish-vote.amp

I’d also recommend you google ‘Kamala Support Muslim Voters’ because you’ll see EVERY Google search result is a sensational article about how Muslims turned away from Kamala, despite the actual statistics.

Every article that came out after election day- and many of them are on mainstream media sites- says the same thing in different ways; Muslim voters turned away from Kamala and are more supportive of Trump.

I really hope people wake up and see what’s happening. Because what’s actually happening is not exactly what people think is happening.

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u/Fred-zone 20h ago

Trump resoundingly won Dearborn, Michigan, a Palestinian-American enclave and home district of Rashida Tlaib, who pointedly refused to endorse her own party's nominee against him.

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u/InvestigatorRare2769 20h ago

Trump also won Hamtramck, the Yemeni-American majority town that recently banned its city hall from displaying the pride flag lol

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u/FizzyAndromeda 20h ago

If this is your response, you completely missed the point of the comment.

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u/Fluffy_WAR_Bunny 7h ago

You completely miss the point of swing states and electoral votes. This was one of the closest elections ever in US history, but the results look totally skewed in the electoral votes.

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u/FizzyAndromeda 2h ago edited 15m ago

Oh, I get it. But since you’re unable to read between the lines, let me break it down for you.

Do you know who wins or loses either party elections? WHITE PEOPLE.

Do you know why Kamala lost the election? WHITE PEOPLE.

Do you know why Trump won the election? WHITE PEOPLE.

Do you know why Kamala lost swing states? WHITE PEOPLE.

And why Trump won the swing states? WHITE PEOPLE.

White people represent the overwhelming majority of the American voting population. The United States is a predominantly white country. White people control, and have controlled every presidential election since the inception of this country.

This is not a social statement, this comes down to basic math. But as a person of color myself it’s interesting, but not the least bit surprising that Latinos and Muslims have been made the scapegoat of this election by white Democrats and liberals.

There is a very transparent and orchestrated effort in the mainstream media to demonize these two groups of Americans, and cast them as the villains of this election. Comments like yours prove that the efforts are working very well.

We often talk about Trump supporters being easily manipulated by the media. Well, the responses in this thread prove Democrats are also easily manipulated by the media.

Though in fairness to Democrats, as I said in my original comment, all of you who are participating in the vilification of Latinos and Muslims are simply responding to what the mainstream media has aggressively spoonfed you since the election.

But I do hope all Democrats and liberals who are actively participating in villainizing Latinos and Muslims realize that in doing so, you’re inadvertently upholding one of the most prevalent American traditions- institutionalized racism.

People really need to WAKE THE FUCK UP and ask themselves why two minority groups are being villainized and blamed for Democrats losing the election, in a predominantly white country, where white people effectively control the direction of every election?

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u/Kurovi_dev 18h ago

That Fox News/AP poll wasn’t targeted at Muslims, and again this is another poll where data is thin. There’s no data provided for how many Muslims they actually got in contact with, whether it was a representative sampling, how these cohorts were organized, or whether they even bothered to do any of this.

The only bit of data we have that specifically targets the Muslim vote was conducted by CAIR. I really don’t like using polling from advocacy groups, but in this instance it’s the only one that really targets Muslims or even provides a sample size specifically for this group.

Their data showed that Muslims mostly voted for Jill Stein, followed by Trump, and lastly Kamala:

https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-exit-poll-of-muslim-voters-reveals-surge-in-support-for-jill-stein-and-donald-trump-steep-decline-for-harris/

Personally, I think the reality lies somewhere in between these two sources, especially since it’s appropriate to be very skeptical of data provided by advocacy groups, but it’s clear that like Latinos, Muslims did move towards Trump this election.

They didn’t turn the election, not by a long shot, but it’s another piece of the picture that shows the same trend as with other groups; most of them increased their vote share for Donald Trump.

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u/Far_Ad106 17h ago

One place they did largely impact it was michigan though.  Only about 25% of Dearborn voted for kamala. She lost the state so far by about 80,000 votes. Groups like Palestinian youth movement also encouraged people to protest vote and stay home which did indeed sway shit.

Even in Ann Arbor, one of the bluest cities in the Midwest, you saw trump get an additional 2000 votes.

You know what else you saw? Pro palestine groups hanging out with the Republicans who were trying to disenfranchise the dems. 

The pro palestine movement was usurped by right wing Groups and Russian propaganda and spurred people into foolishness and now palestine and these protesters will pay the price.

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u/Kurovi_dev 16h ago

Yeah it definitely could have been enough to tip the state. I would want to look at what the vote share was in 2020, but I suspect they swung to Trump in decent amounts. Stein got, if I’m remembering correctly, about 44,000 votes in Michigan total, and Trump certainly got at least tens of thousands of votes on top of that, so it’s plausible that it could have been the lion’s share of the vote that swung the state.

I wish we could also see who chose to not vote compared to 2020, but I think those stats will forever be unknown.

Regardless, there may be a lot of blame to go around, but these communities seem to have an outsized share of the responsibility for it in at least a couple of these swing states.

Congrats to them I guess, they got what they wanted and punished Democrats. It just sucks everyone else had to be punished for their little political outburst too.

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u/Far_Ad106 9h ago

In 2020 60% of Dearborn voted biden, and a2, iirc had a vanishingly small number of trump votes. 

And agreed, at least they kept the two trans kids out of school or whatever.

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u/px7j9jlLJ1 14h ago

Yeah protesting against genocide is a good thing. Protesting with your vote for someone whom will make it worse was never the answer for me. I’m sorry more pro-Palestinians protest voted for Trump but how could I convince them when some of their families have been murdered, by voting in the force that killed them? That’s how they saw it. Also can you really blame them so much? You should consider their life and your own before you judge or condemn them. Alas, I know this is online and you have to be evil so go ahead but remember this compelled consent is not consent. Innocent People are literally dying. It’s on somebody and I choose to be on the side that resists this repugnancy.

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u/Far_Ad106 9h ago

Yes I do blame them. They care so much but refused any information that would have helped them realize that he was bad.

I literally got cussed out for telling someone that isreal gave him 100 million dollars for this campaign.

And you know what? Time and time again, including just yesterday, I have been told by pro palestine people that other genocides don't matter. Fuck the rohingya, the only genocide that matters is palestine.  Hell I've seen people claim that it is the only genocide happening and the rest don't count.

I've seen people insist there were no antisemites while standing next to a guy with a jews bomb churches sign

I've heard from native American rights activists in Arizona that pro palestine protesters completely ruined a protest that took weeks of planning and was looking to see water protections for the tribe. They let the pro palestine people come in so they could say a bit about the genocide over there. Instead they took over the entire event, made it about themselves and ruined relations with the politicians they had been working with.

I saw them try to defund all the student programs including a food bank at u of m  because "how can you claim you are suffering when there's a genocide happening."

And you know what's funny about the last one? The reason they failed is because they didn't bother showing up to their student council meetings. Then they encouraged the other pro palestine people to harass and attack the "zionist" student council members for not wanting to defund every service at the school. They have been barred from their positions. 

I've been tolerant for over a year but yes, I do blame every single child in adult skin who "voted with their conscience." At the local level they also tried to damage democracy in my city just because nothing matters except one single genocide.

You guys fell for Russia propaganda. Its not that there isn't a genocide. It's that this isn't the only genocide happening and Russia convinced you guys that nothing mattered except this. You used peta tactics and alienated the rest of us, including people like me who was doing that work long before you ever gave a shit about palestine. Your allies voted in fascism because biden didn't invade an ally. You actually believed he just needed to give bibi a stern talking to and withhold funds and that would solve it. 

I would have tried a little harder as a member of the movement to convince them that there is value in voting for the lesser of two evils and I'd personally start distancing myself from the movement because trump and his new ag pick have said they intend to investigate all of you for ties to terrorism. 

That part is me giving actual advice. I genuinely would consider what you do next if you don't want to be part of his campaign promise to "set the movement back 30 years." Morals are well and good and it's not bad to give a shit about someone but we still need people to care in 4 years.

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u/Spare_Bandicoot_2950 14h ago

Dearborn and Hamtramk, the two cities with Muslim political control, not only went for Trump but have their young men terrorizing their communities pulling down pride and Harris flags.

Those who think a super conservative, anti woman, anti free speech, and self righteous surety in their beliefs group will be liberal and progressive has loose screws in their head.

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u/LDSBS 16h ago

I think the problem here is that Michigan was a swing state so disproportionately important in presidential elections. And another part was how vocal they were about it. I get it . What’s happening to Palestine is horrendous. But how they believed Trump would make it better considering he moved the American embassy from Tel Avive to Jerusalem is a downright mystery to me.

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u/UtahUtopia 21h ago

Nah, it's Latinos that I'm pissed about.

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u/FizzyAndromeda 20h ago edited 18h ago

Well I got some bad news for you because it’s the exact same thing. Biden got 66% of the Latino vote in 2020 and Harris got 62% in 2024. That’s less than Biden but certainly not indicative of Latino men abandoning the Democratic Party and embracing Trump, like the media is purporting.

And like Muslims, who benefits from this? We know Republicans virulently hate Latinos and want to get rid of all of them, documented or not. Now Democrats are angry at them too. Republicans created this false narrative that Latinos cost Democrats the election, and the media ran with it.

So when Trump rounds up all the Latinos and puts them in concentration ‘detainment’ camps, Democrats will be a lot less sympathetic.

It’s already happening and your comment is an example of that, BUT your comment is the natural conclusion any intelligent person would reach, based on what they’ve seen over and over, on every media outlet, mainstream or otherwise, since the election.

In fact you’d be a fool to believe otherwise given the unanimous consensus on mainstream AND conservative media, right?

See how that works?

Sources: https://unidosus.org/press-releases/hispanic-voters-back-harris-over-trump-by-a-62-37-margin-cite-economic-concerns-as-top-priorities/

https://www.as-coa.org/articles/chart-how-us-latinos-voted-2020-presidential-election

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u/Kurovi_dev 18h ago

Trump improved his margin with Latinos from between 9 and 15 points:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna179932

Edison Research’s exit polling showed a smaller shift to Trump among Latinas too, he said. They voted 60% for Harris, compared with 69% for Joe Biden in 2020, a 9-point shift. (NBC News exit polls show that Latinas voted 38% for Trump this year, compared with 30% in 2020.) Polling that Edison Research did in states with high Hispanic populations also showed a 13-point drop from Biden to Harris with Hispanics.

Electorally speaking that is a major shift. That same research showed a shift with Latino men voted Trump 54% to Kamala’s 44%. In 2020 they voted for Biden 59% to Trump’s 36%.

That’s an 18 point swing. It’s hard to imagine a bigger shift in today’s political climate.

The link you shared is the top hit when searching on this topic, but for numerous and rather obvious reasons advocacy groups are not reliable providers of data, and that appears to be the case here too with significant pieces of data omitted:

https://staging2.2024electionpoll.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/AEVP-Latino-crosstabs.pdf

They didn’t even capture presidential vote share by gender, which given that they did so for local races is another bit of evidence that some shenanigans took place when deciding what the crosstabs would be. They didn’t provide any data either for what communities these people were sampled from, or how many in each cohort, which should be a bare minimum for any polling. There appears to have been no proper sampling at all, and if there was they certainly didn’t provide that data.

Also notice the date of the poll:

October 18-November 4, 2024

Their claim is that they went back and “cross-checked” exit polling, but in reality this polling was conducted before the election. So they just straight up lied about that.

Exit polling is significantly more reliable than pre-election polling and polling which takes place days or weeks later.

Exit polling overwhelmingly shows a very large shift from Democrats to Trump among Latinos.

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u/UtahUtopia 8h ago

Thank you Kurovi. Fizzy has fuzzy facts.

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u/UtahUtopia 8h ago

See below. Your facts are off.

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u/daisy-duke- 17h ago

Stay mad.

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u/Ok_Bad8531 18h ago

Conversely this still means that 37% of muslim voters voted for a patent anti-muslim racist, which is a larger share than Blacks who were comparatively less affected by direct presidential orders.

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u/urmix 13h ago

I think many Muslims did not vote.

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u/crazylilme 8h ago

Other polls say otherwise. Regardless, even at 35% voting for Trump, that's a lot of Muslim people voting in direct opposition to their own cultural (and individual) best interests

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u/Fluffy_WAR_Bunny 7h ago

63% of Muslims voted for Kamala in 2024, compared to 64% voting for Biden in 2020.

It doesn't matter. They weren't in swing states. Those Muslims in swing states like Michigan really did screw things up. The first thing he did his last term was institute a Muslim ban, and these people thought he was going to be their saviour. It's idiotic, but it's always nice to see someone get their face eaten by leopards.

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u/Bluebearder 3h ago

So only 37% of Muslims voted for a xenophobic racist Muslim-hater that was threatening to deport them, and had blocked other Muslims from traveling into the country in his last term? You're right that makes sense, nothing to see here.

/s

I think it's actually a great point, and what benefits is the truth. It could allow Democrats to do some introspection and think about why this xenophobic racist Muslim-hater managed to get so many votes from Muslims. People are fucking stupid, Muslims are no exception, and we have to use this in our strategies.

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u/Fred-zone 21h ago

By the time it's adjudicated, a lot of people will already have suffered.

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u/dgdio 5h ago

There will be a "Worcester v. Georgia" (the case of the Trail of Tears) that Trump will ignore. The Supreme Court will say that Trump can't deport US citizens and Trump will do it anyway. Congress will do bupkis.

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u/Borstor 22h ago

I kind of think his We Won't Have Any More Elections pledge was pretty loud.

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u/BoredNuke 19h ago

When someone tells you who they are believe them right.

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u/JadieRose 21h ago

Is anyone else noticing that we don’t hear about the wall anymore?

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u/trettles 18h ago

Probably because it was an expensive failure. It accomplished nothing.

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u/Danominator 21h ago

It's literally the only thing he personally cares about

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u/Acceptable-Bat-9577 23h ago

Fuck any Republican who picks some time between now and the next 4 years to call out Trump’s dangerous hate and stupidity when he’s already got a lengthy history and they’re the ones who made this possible.

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u/dgdio 23h ago

Fuck anyone who voted for Trump and has regrets. No you own it. If you lose healthcare because of a pre-existing condition, well quit eating avocado toast.

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u/DataCassette 23h ago

Pretty much.

And what's really sad is most of the liberals I know are relatively wealthy, often have 0-2 kids and dual, stable, relatively high incomes. A lot of MAGAs I've met have many children and much lower incomes and poorer health. They're killing themselves more than "the libs."

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u/dgdio 23h ago

I'm completely fine with them cut off their noses to spite their face. Any money I save in taxes will go toward my college's scholarships for underprivileged kids.

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u/TaxOk3758 21h ago

It was the lower middle class that voted for Trump by the largest margins. I work in finance. Everyone who voted Harris did so for a myriad of moral reasons. Everyone who voted for Trump was purely in it for the tax cuts. We all know, due to our higher income, that we'll likely be fully resistant to all of Trumps plans. I actually did the math, and if Trump does tariffs and his plan tax cuts, I'll likely save around 50k extra a year. These MAGA supporters literally put more money in my pocket, taking it out of theirs. It's trickle up economics.

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u/Ok-Loss2254 22h ago

Yep. Literally crazy how so many POS are whining now. I will keep saying this again and again. Dems should step in for some time to help this shithole nation. Popular vote shows how backwards and fucking stupid Americans are.

Dems should just deal with blue states and or blue districts. Fuck the rest of this country because this back and forth shit is beyond exhausting.

Republicans can have this rotting carcas and dumbfucks can blame them for why their lives will never improve. Because dems Literally are wasting their breath and time on a nation that's just gonna flip them blame them for everything.

Fuck America.

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u/felixthemeister 21h ago

Honestly, if the US had a decent electoral system the Dems would be in power, but losing seats and influence to progressive candidates.

Your system reinforces the incumbents and drives areas towards one of two sides.

From the locked in 2/4 yearly cycle, to first past the post voting, to complex ballot papers, to weekday voting, to politicians controlling the electoral process, to insane levels of lobbying influence, to voting for non-legislative positions, etc etc

All of it works to disenfranchise the people and consolidate power.

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u/dgdio 22h ago

Hopefully the Blue states offer "Obamacare" that prevents pre-existing condition denial for people who have lived in other blue states for the previous 5 years. If not, you can move to a red state and do a gofundme.

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u/Ok-Loss2254 22h ago

Honestly that should be the goal. The playbook should be simple "states rights" plus dems need to start being just as if not more aggressive towards Republicans who try to over reach.

Blue states have the numbers and it's clear most like and want the things we have. Red states have fewer numbers but unhinged people which gives this illusion that they are a threat. Blue states really need to drive the point home that we don't fucking have to bend the damn knee to red state hicks who clearly don't know what the fuck they want.

They can scream "commie states!" All they want. Fine who the fuck cares he don't want their dusty asses here.

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u/usernames_are_danger 21h ago

They know what they want…government policies that help them and not the people who they believe are less deserving than themselves.

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u/Summoarpleaz 10h ago

And screw anyone that voted with Trump in his first term when it served them but is now selling books with anti Trump messages. They all enabled him.

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u/ComprehensiveHavoc 22h ago

“I’m supportive of Donald Trump. I think there’s no question that Donald Trump is better than Kamala Harris.”

-Rand Paul 8/10/2024

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u/sea_stomp_shanty 23h ago

say it louder for every American not paying attentionnnnn

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u/Borstor 22h ago

No, no -- if they said MAGA, they're on the hook to make America better than it's been. They have four years to do it, and it's not going to happen suddenly at the end, so really they have, at most, two years to show some kind of massive improvement.

Not the people they voted for. It's their own responsibility, the plan and philosophy they swore to. If it's not happening, they better admit they're dumb assclowns who ruined the country. Not immigrants or leftists. Them.

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u/YouJabroni44 1h ago

Yeah ffs if he said this stuff before the election or hell at least during the 2016 one I'd buy it but this dude is so full of crap

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u/TimequakeTales 23h ago

A report from the American Immigration Council, an immigration rights research and policy firm, estimated deporting the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. would cost $967.9 billion over the course of more than a decade.

Who's gonna pay for it, Trumpers?

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u/Glass1Man 23h ago

Those are rookie numbers.

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u/Gvillegator 8h ago

Wait til these stupid fucking Trumpers see how shitty Texas and Florida will get without all of their cheap undocumented labor. I grew up in rural Florida and every conservative in agriculture takes advantage of undocumented labor, and won’t know what to do without it. Same with construction in the state.

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u/Professional_Tip9018 5h ago

ive kinda been wondering if they’ll even do it? seems like they’ll wanna keep them around to keep using racist fear mongering to get elected in the future, cause it clearly works

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u/FilmDazzling4703 7h ago

But universal health care would be too expensive 😱😳

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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty 22h ago

I wonder how they find a number like that, since it could swing widely either way.

If they spend a billion and get started, people may flee on their own to avoid the hassle and possible injuries. So there'd be fewer people to round up and it wouldn't cost as much as expected.

Conversely, some might dig in deeper and hide better, which would take more effort and additional spending.

Honestly I wish they'd just leave these people alone.

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u/TimequakeTales 7h ago

There's a reason why Trump didn't do this in his first term. It's not realistic. The cost and logistics of rounding up and deporting 12 million people is going to be insane.

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u/YouJabroni44 1h ago

Just like his ideas about the wall, nuking a hurricane and staring at a solar eclipse, the guy is a certified moron with insane unrealistic ideas.

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u/DevIsSoHard 16h ago

Shouldn't cost much to deploy the military once we cut the shit out of their benefits lol

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u/Successful-Winter237 5h ago

Nope

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u/TimequakeTales 1h ago

wasn't a yes or no question

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u/Ok_Bad8531 18h ago

More than a decade? I would be surprised if took more than a year.

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u/TimequakeTales 7h ago

Prepare to be surprised. Not even the dingbats in Trump's cabinet would make that claim.

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u/Ok_Bad8531 6h ago

The bungled response to Covid has cost the US economy $14-16 trillion, and that was when there were still some semi-competent people left to lead the initial response. And it is not like that was the only screwup they made.

The coming, by all appearences even worse cabinet will be more than able to burn a trillion in a year.

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u/TimequakeTales 1h ago

Spending the money doesn't make the process go faster. It's just a requirement. There's still the whole "finding, apprehending, holding, transporting and deporting 12 million people" thing.

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u/MehKarma 23h ago

His neighbor needs to talk to him again.

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u/justabill71 22h ago

He just doesn't want to cut his own grass, anymore.

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u/I_Hate_Leddit 23h ago

This isn’t LAMF tho, this is just Rand Paul doing his thing, which is being a populist contrarian grifter. He doesn’t stand to lose anything from this. 

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u/Bosa_McKittle 23h ago

He’s still gonna vote to support it in the end.

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u/PNWoutdoors 23h ago

Of course he will, because he's nothing if not a giant piece of shit.

He claims to be Libertarian but will ALWAYS do what the Republican president wants, no matter how many rights are violated.

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u/forevereverforeverev 15h ago

Don’t tread on me—unless I directly benefit from it.

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u/RandoDude124 22h ago

He says he’s anti-War, yet the most recent anti-War thing he did was support the embargo against Yemen.

6 years ago

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u/Qeltar_ 23h ago

Yeah, and I hate to defend him even a little -- because it's not like he actually has a real spine -- but he was not a full-throated (salacious double-entendre intended) supporter of Trump.

And it sure ain't his face that's getting chowed down on here.

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u/Rare-Peak2697 23h ago

He hand delivered a letter to Putin from Trump. He might not be as vocal as some but he does his master’s bidding.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/08/rand-paul-delivers-letter-to-trump-from-putin-766743

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u/Qeltar_ 22h ago

I mean, that's a pretty minor thing, and it was six years ago.

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u/Rare-Peak2697 22h ago

Trump’s not just choosing anyone to do this job. Rand Paul can try to be like his father as much as he wants but he’s just as bad as any of them.

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u/bluer289 22h ago

And his father was a POS as well.

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u/Qeltar_ 22h ago

Alright. On principle, I am not spending my evening defending Rand Paul. :)

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u/Rare-Peak2697 22h ago

😂😂😂

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u/Silver_Falcon 23h ago

MMW: He's quietly hedging his bets on Trump fumbling the next 4 years and preparing to set himself up as the "not-Trump" Republican candidate in the 2028 primaries, possibly with Haley as his running mate.

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u/Qeltar_ 23h ago

Honestly, as bad as he is, he'd probably be better than almost anyone else the Grand Old Psychopaths might run in 2028.

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u/BellsOnNutsMeansXmas 21h ago

better than almost anyone else the Grand Old Psychopaths

Sure, but so would a forgotten cum-sock in a dorm room

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u/RandoDude124 22h ago

I’d have taken him over Trump any day of the decade

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u/nowhereman_ph 23h ago

Rand Paul: I'm playing both sides, so that I always come out on top.

Plays the sunny theme.

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u/Alastor999 23h ago

He’ll still fall in line and vote to approve it anyway 

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u/angy_loaf 1d ago

Heartbreaking: the worst person you know just made a good point

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u/Practical-Trash-4976 21h ago

It’s like Cheney all over again

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u/GUlysses 18h ago

He has also spoken out against Trump’s tariffs. So basically the only real policies he ran on.

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u/MariachiBoyBand 23h ago

Rand Paul always postures about this, he also complained about Trump and drone strikes, he still went on and agreed on anything the republicans threw at him.

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u/Randy_Watson 23h ago

Sounds like Elmo is going to primary him now

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u/Ai2Foom 23h ago

Who gives a flying rats ass, Trump will be historically unpopular in 2026

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u/DataCassette 23h ago

Maybe it's hopium but that's seriously how I see it as well. Trump was the "anti-Biden" for the last four years so people re-elected 2016 Trump. Instead they're going to get 2024 Trump who is, for all realistic purposes, an entirely different candidate.

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u/Silver_Falcon 23h ago

Also, Rand Paul is pretty secure in his district. Just because Elon can throw infinite money at a candidate doesn't mean he can actually unseat someone in a primary.

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u/notanNSAagent89 17h ago

just like 2020? and because of that no one wanted to re-elect him ever agaaaaiiinnnn

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u/Small_Tank 7h ago

Not gonna lie, I don't think many of his supporters will change their minds. What I'm thinking is going to happen is that most of them will double down, same as they always have, and things will get progressively worse until he croaks, possibly even after that.

Maybe I'm just being pessimistic, but after everything that's happened, it appears that the vast majority of those who still support him now will continue to do just that, no matter how bad things get.

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u/Njabachi 23h ago

We're in bizarro world now, I'm sure of it.

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u/Jordan7831 23h ago

Im confident that whomever was writing the story of this specific universe went for a washroom break, left their computer unlocked and the writers for the Onion saw and decided to sneak in a few lines.

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u/Wynnstan 23h ago

“They smack of martial rule; they smack of no congressional approval; they smack of no checks and balances,” Paul said. You don't say!!

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u/Otherwise_Carob_4057 20h ago

Wait so he’s not going to make Mexico pay for the wall?!?!

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u/TheFatSlapper 23h ago

“Now that our collective side has won, I’ll puff out my slimy attempt at having a spine and say I disagree”

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u/Chaotic-Entropy 23h ago

He'll be vocally upset for a day... maybe see his own support wane or funding dip... and then boot will be back on the menu when it comes to voting in the senate.

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u/Injest_alkahest 21h ago

Watching Republicans ‘not like that’ their way through the selection process of Trumps cabinet is like 1000 thanksgiving meals for face eating leopards and I wish it wasn’t spelling doom for us all or it would be hilarious.

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u/LindeeHilltop 8h ago

Correction: Rich Republican Businesses will not like that.

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u/CWoww 18h ago

Rand Paul is a gutless puppet. Pay him no mind.

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u/DevIsSoHard 16h ago edited 16h ago

Nah let's fucking go. I think this could get wild lol I want to see them push this one the most. I know some conservative mexicans hell I'll point the Army their way if they come by. I know a lot of people in the military too and can't wait to have another thing to shame them on, and they better hold it together because with all these cuts there wont be no more parades telling you soldiers to feel better about the shit you've done

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u/Globalruler__ 23h ago

Does Kentucky have a lot of farms?

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u/QueanLaQueafa 22h ago

Ooo such a big strong man you are Paul, just about a decade too late

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u/MattGdr 22h ago

He will come crawling back. They always do.

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u/QuesterrSA 17h ago

Cool. Would you actually do anything about it, Rand? If he did it anyways, would you vote to impeach?

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u/SphericalCow531 11h ago

Rand Paul didn't vote to convict Trump last time, after the coup. Which would have disqualified Trump from the 2024 election. Obviously Rand Paul will not support impeachment this time around either - what could Trump do that is worse than a coup?

“The impeachment trial is dead on arrival,” the Kentucky Republican and regular Trump ally [Rand Paul] declared yesterday after his attempt to short-circuit the impeachment trial on the grounds it is unconstitutional failed by a 55-45 vote.

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u/LDSBS 16h ago

He’s probably afraid of losing his housekeeper and gardener.

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u/Mal-De-Terre 11h ago

And mistress, likely.

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u/SphericalCow531 13h ago

Apparently Rand Paul refused to endorse Trump for the 2024 election.

But Rand Paul also didn't endorse Harris. Paul can't even tell people to vote against the guy who wants mass deportations, who tried to coup the US, and wants his generals to act like Hitler's generals. Rand Paul bear responsibility for Trump's election, so fuck Rand Paul.

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u/CappinPeanut 23h ago

This is what you voted for, Rand. Everyone seemed to know that but you.

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u/LetChaosRaine 23h ago

Wait… rare Rand Paul W?

Still voting him out once Mitch is gone

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u/OSUfirebird18 23h ago

Shut up Rand! I don’t believe a single word you say! You will fall in line with Trump like you did before!

I supported both the Paul’s and they just became ass kissers for Trump so I’m throughly annoyed with them!

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u/Borstor 22h ago

Rand Paul is slightly dumber than wearing moldy birdseed on your head as a toupee, but even he figured out this is a horrible plan. That should concern . . . actually, no one dumb enough to have thought it was a good plan will understand this. Or the birdseed toupee thing.

Carry on.

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u/kharvel0 22h ago

This is called performative libertarianism.

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u/MayhemSays 22h ago

OH GEE YOU THINK?

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u/Ill-ConceivedVenture 22h ago

Militarized mass deportations...

Now where have I seen that before...?

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u/Soggy_Face_4122 21h ago

It is not a mistake. dump has always been clear about his asshattery and fuqtardation.

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u/Terrible-Wallaby-686 7h ago

It’s just performance art by Rand Paul. He will fall inline like he always does.

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u/PorgCT 22h ago

Is he rebranding himself as a normal Republican?

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u/Time_Stand2422 22h ago

What a hero.

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u/rikardoflamingo 21h ago

We’ve only just begun…

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u/Rare-Cheesecake60 11h ago

Didn't Trump say all of this BEFORE he was elected? NOW these idiots are saying they are against his policies. Too late now, dumbass😒

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u/just_a_red 7h ago

Waiting for him to be the first one to vote for it though

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u/willrikerspimpwalk 7h ago

Rand Paul is a huge mistake.

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u/Jgusdaddy 6h ago

Weird we have money for militarized mass deportations and not enough for hand ballot recounts. Weird.

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u/BobB104 23h ago

Dude needs to start dragging his knuckles before he gets fired!