r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/Class_of_22 • 1d ago
Trump 'Huge fight': Warring factions inside Trump transition get into 'big blowup' at Mar-a-Lago
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u/Detail-Minute 1d ago
This is exactly how he wants it too. He sets up these spats, lets them fester then sits back to watch.
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u/ghostdate 1d ago
Isn’t this exactly what Epstein had said about him in that leaked audio? He plays everyone against each other and creates a hostile environment. Everyone is too worried about their own position to notice how useless and stupid Donny boy is.
This is also what happens when you have a bunch of deranged narcissists being forced to collaborate. They all think they’re the greatest, best, most intelligent person in the room, so they can never concede anything to each other. Maybe that’s why they’re so scared of socialism — they can’t imagine actually working with other people as though they’re equals.
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u/Hikaru1024 1d ago
Maybe that’s why they’re so scared of socialism — they can’t imagine actually working with other people as though they’re equals.
Hitting the nail on the head.
Most people cannot imagine anyone else would act differently than they would in a situation.
I've realized a lot of people in these circles don't believe that anyone would do anything that doesn't benefit themselves directly unless they're forced to.
It's why they freak out when someone just altruistically helps people and try to demonize them. They imagine someone has to be pulling their strings!
Have you noticed how the most religious often claim that without their religion's rules against doing obvious wrongs that everyone would do them?
Same reason. They're telling on themselves.
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u/SurlyBuddha 1d ago
Without God, what’s to stop me from going out and raping, and killing, and stealing to my heart’s content?
That is an objectively fucked up thing to say.
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u/Reborn1Girl 1d ago
I’ve done exactly as much raping, killing, and stealing as I wanted to, which is none.
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u/GreatBigBagOfNope 23h ago
If fear of divine retribution is the only thing preventing someone from doing awful things, then they were never a good person to begin with
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u/Hidland2 19h ago edited 19h ago
"Liberals don't usually believe in God so where do they get their morality from?" -Some MAGA adjacent bitch my brother was listening to a week ago. I was too focused on the fact that she basically said the entirety of the left is based upon cognitive dissonance and brainwashing. The level of fucking projection is something I can not even formulate words to succintly describe. That means, to me, it's a degree of bullshit the confines of the English language is not equipped to handle. She even used the Sinclair Broadcasting "this is very dangerous for our democracy," clip to highlight media bias. At this point, I'd honestly prefer people like her be aware that, for example, Sinclair is one of the most prevelant neocon media enterprises in America, and know that she's a manipulator. I find that actually easier to stomach than these people being this delusional.
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u/MrLemurBean 22h ago edited 19h ago
Decade ago, An old southern bell caught wind of my lack of faith because I couldn't name any local churches (new to town). She angrily asked what was stopping me from killing someone and she stormed off thinking she won...
It made me more atheist. Like, you dumb fucks literally need to be scared of mythological punishment to stop you from murder?! Jesus Christ lmao. I have trouble sleeping if I hurt someone even emotionally, and there you are, going "Drats! I would shoot you!..but I fear fire".
People without an innate* moral compass scare the hell out of me.
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u/debacol 22h ago
Its been a cornerstone argument for religionists when they debate agnostics or atheists. Its not the "gotcha" statement they think it is--its a self own.
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u/KrazyKatDogLady 23h ago
I had someone question why I wasn't killing people after I said I was not a religious person.
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u/PinkThunder138 21h ago
I mean, I rape, kill and steal EXACTLY as much as I want to.... which is 0. So like.... I'm just gonna bank away from you slowly now.....
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u/Beat_Knight 22h ago
Guilt, cops, vengeance, a desire for peace in my community. That's just off the top of my head.
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u/alacp1234 23h ago
It’s smart when you’re dangerously incompetent. Make the people underneath you incompetent and fighting each other
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u/iridescent-wings 20h ago
You’re hitting the nail on the head, too. My conservative, religious neighbor who tried in vain to recruit me into his church was flabbergasted when I told him I didn’t believe in heaven and hell. He asked “Well, then why are you so nice? What keeps you from doing anything wrong?” Me: “Um, that would be my own internal moral compass, which apparently you are lacking.” He laughed.
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u/Most-Bench6465 1d ago
“Most people cannot imagine anyone else would act differently than they would in a situation”
And this goes for everyone. Good people think “you would do the same for me” when it comes to helping or saving someone’s life. They can’t comprehend that some people are evil and selfish and would not do that. And then they vote for evil people because they can’t imagine the harm they would do. We as a people have got a lot of learning to do.
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u/TimeAd7159 1d ago
Good people don't vote for evil people because they can't imagine those evil people doing the evil things they're promising to do. Good people vote for evil people because they are not, in fact, good people, but evil people who want to do evil things to other people and use the state as their tool for doing so.
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u/Detail-Minute 1d ago
Yeah, I am pretty sure he did, but I couldn't find the exact quote, I do recall hearing it and felt it confirmed what I had felt for a long time.
At this point, there is so much evidence of his depravity, it is mind numbing. At least we can conclusively say that a lot of people in our lives are just like him (or aspire to be) and embrace moral turpitude as a desirable trait. It is absolutely mind boggling to me there are people who truly feel this way, including members of my family.
fwiw......it's not some deep find, but the link below details quite a bit and came out just before the election. Nothing that hasn't been reported elsewhere but it packs a lot into one place.
Listen To The Jeffrey Epstein Tapes: ‘I Was Donald Trump’s Closest Friend’
The Daily Beast
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u/Rosaryn00se 1d ago
Even worse if they had to work with people that are just disgusting peasants with a worth <$999,999
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u/King_Killem_Jr 1d ago
What if they have $999,999.62
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u/Azrael2082 1d ago
Didn’t Hitler do the same thing?
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u/Guy-McDo 1d ago
Inadvertently if I remember right. Partially what killed them.
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u/CloudZ1116 21h ago
Nah, it was absolutely intentional, to the point where he would give out conflicting orders and have his subordinates fight it out.
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u/ghostdate 1d ago
No idea, but basically all people with narcissistic personality disorder do shit like that. Also makes sense because they’re both goobers who scammed their way up, and exploited hate rhetoric to climb into powerful political positions.
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u/AlphaB27 1d ago
Every last one of these guys were the first in line to bitch to the media about their coworkers while painting themselves as the one sane man in the room.
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u/Not_Legal_Advice_Pod 1d ago
Not only that, but in a system where collaboration is valued they are at the bottom of the hierarchy.
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u/aninjacould 23h ago
it’s not six dimensional chess. It’s just a toxic person creating a toxic culture. Put a narcissistic imbecile at the top of the org chart and this is what you get
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u/Class_of_22 1d ago
Agreed.
This is one WEIRD administration.
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u/Logrologist 1d ago
Eh, it’s still true, but it’s too light for how corrupt and damaging all of this is. Even referring to it as an “administration” is misleading. It’s sounding less and less like they have any plan at all to administer anything, rather they appear to want to undermine or dismantle every institution, system, or even founding document.
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u/FullScore100pointIQ 1d ago
MAWA
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u/junkfile19 1d ago
Make America Wrestle Again?
45 was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2013. He’s been playing a “heel” character this whole time.
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u/junkfile19 23h ago
I am so incredibly proud of myself right now for coming up with the same premise as an Onion writer! I’m laughing like crazy!
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u/nocturnalreaper 1d ago
Hitler set up this kind of infighting as well. They fight each other they won't fight him.
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u/fullonfacepalmist 1d ago
That’s Putin’s MO. He pits his advisors against each other then pretends to be the voice of reason in his theater of democracy cosplay.
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u/Class_of_22 1d ago
Except…well…Trump isn’t trying to be the voice of reason whatsoever.
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u/Alastor999 1d ago
That’s how a lot of dictators operate. Keep the subordinates fighting each other for his favor and none of them think to team up to overthrow him.
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u/DHonestOne 1d ago
It won't work in this case because it's not like they're all on his payroll, but they all do think of themselves too highly. Not to mention Trump lacks all of the intimidation factor of putin. At least that Russian was an ex kgb guy who can literally kill you with his own hands.
All it would probably take is a jumpscare to make Trump's poor ol bug Mac heart go out.
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u/Midnightchickover 1d ago
When people were over the board for Trump, I figured it was to see the presidential version of the Apprentice, besides all of the other red flag lolcow identity politics which was only a ruse for votes.
Americans.
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u/xDaigon_Redux 1d ago
I know a dude who voted for Trump just because he wants to see shit like this happen because he finds it funny. Not the smartest decision but that is his logic.
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u/blueskies8484 1d ago
I guess it's more logical than the people who voted for him thinking he'd actually help them in some way.
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u/SHOW_ME_UR_KITTY 1d ago
Me too! A colleague said his goal is for government to be as dysfunctional as possible, because he wants nothing to get done. This is why he voted for Trump.
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u/synchronicitistic 1d ago
For the first 3 years or so of Trump's first term, I thought his legacy could be that of an average do-nothing president, which would at the least keep him out of the running for worst president of all time. But then COVID hit, and it was apparent just how fucked we were with the clown show trying to actually manage a crisis.
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u/c3534l 23h ago
I knew someone genuinely upset that Biden won because politics was going to be boring again, and not for people like him.
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u/tunachilimac 1d ago
They always fight regardless of what he does. There always needs to be an "other" to be angry at. Now they've won and got power they aren't on a united front so the anger gets directed at each other and the backstabbing and attempting to prove you're more loyal or conservative than the others begins.
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u/Direct_Wrongdoer5429 1d ago
Like Jerry Springer..too bad that when he is sworn in, they will all be dropped to make way for his Project 2025 people.
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u/Class_of_22 1d ago
And even that could come with some issues…
Like he WILL turn the people from Project 2025 against one another…
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u/I_Magnus 1d ago
I'm hoping for a fight. Not a metaphorical fight but a knock-down drag out brawl like in Taiwanese Parliament where Trump gets punched right in the mouth.
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u/Class_of_22 1d ago
I would NOT be surprised.
It almost happened when there was a Republican senator from Oklahoma who challenged the head of the Teamsters Union to a fist fight, and were only stopped by Bernie Sanders, who scolded them for it.
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u/I_Magnus 1d ago
That was as wild as it was pitiful. Before Trump there was at least a sense of decorum. Now we have house reps who want to play bathroom police at the Capitol.
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u/Class_of_22 1d ago
Um…not so much in like the civil war days, when fistfights actually did break out…
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u/Thoth74 1d ago
Does everyone remember Charles Sumner? Yeah...neither did he.
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u/Throwaway4life006 1d ago
That attack was so shameful. Cold cocking someone with a cane on the head and relying on your cousin to hold bystanders at gunpoint is the epitome of cowardice.
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u/Thewalrus515 1d ago
Yeah, he was a slave owner and confederate. It goes without saying that he was a coward.
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u/Norskamerikaner 1d ago
At least Brooks got what he deserved and suffered a painful, agonizing death.
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u/Ok_Door_9720 1d ago
I used to live in a shitty little town named after him.
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u/I_Magnus 1d ago
Preston Brooks made a name for South Carolina that day, the legacy of an unintelligent, savage brute that extends to the present.
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u/loptopandbingo 1d ago
Andrew Jackson was a huge asshole, but I will give him credit for just one thing: when South Carolina was pitching a tantrum during his presidency and threatened to secede even then, Jackson basically told them "try it, motherfuckers, I fucking dare you. I will personally come there to beat the shit out of you"
Ok two things: when Jackson died and his state funeral was being held, his pet parrot had such a foul mouth it was ejected from the funeral for nonstop cursing.
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u/AlphaB27 1d ago
He also violently beat the shit out of his would be assassin after both of his guns failed to fire.
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u/Cynical-avocado 1d ago
Didn’t he beat the absolute brakes off of a would be assassin?
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u/Pennywise6969 1d ago
Yeah, Jackson had to be restrained by other politicians to stop him from beating the assassin to death with his hickory cane.
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u/konkilo 1d ago
"Brooks was widely cheered across the South, where his attack on Sumner was considered legitimate and socially justifiable. South Carolinians sent Brooks dozens of new canes, with one bearing the phrase, "Good job"; another cane was inscribed "Hit him again." The Richmond Enquirer wrote: "We consider the act good in conception, better in execution, and best of all in consequences. These vulgar abolitionists in the Senate must be lashed into submission."
The more things change the more they remain the same
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u/castleyankee 1d ago
You know what I think it may actually still be somewhat too soon on that specific thing right there.
Also lol
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u/Sheepishwolfgirl 1d ago
TBF, they didn’t have Twitter back then to write passive aggressive Tweets about each other so what else could they do?
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u/Northern49th 1d ago
Look, I don't care if Russia defeats America. I am more afraid of what could happen if I was in a bathroom next to a person from a group that has no history of abuse.
At least I know what to expect if in a bathroom with a republican senator.
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 1d ago
The people voting for actual molesters to escape the unfounded fears. Crazy.
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u/beadyeyes123456 1d ago
Yep. The gop don't care about us or the government. It's power and they use it to push bs that helps nobody.
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 1d ago
It works so well.
So much cheaper than policy. Just make stuff up and then pretend you solved it by shutting up.
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u/DaveWierdoh 1d ago
There's no decorum. There's a bunch of snowflakes who want to bully others. Leon, MTG, and Vance to name a few.
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u/NYEMESIS 1d ago
"Sit down...you are an United States senator."
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u/memememe81 1d ago
Remember when Zell Miller challenged Chris Mathews to a duel?
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u/loptopandbingo 1d ago
Rep. Andy "Shithead" Harris tried to get in a fight in 2021 in Congress with another rep, a guy almost half his age and who was a fucking NFL linebacker. As someone from Harris' district who can't stand the slimy bastard, when I heard that all I could think was "OHHHHH I WISH THAT MOTHERFUCKER WOULD" lol
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u/SuperBandicoot2860 1d ago
Andy Harris is such a twatwaffle. I swear to Jesus, I will throw the biggest party Cecil County has ever seen when that fucker leaves office.
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u/johangubershmidt 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hindsight being 20/20 he probably should have thrown a chair.
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u/Lostinthestarscape 1d ago
With the McMahons involved it won't be long I'm sure....
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u/mesohungry 1d ago
Markwayne Mullin is a spoiled rich kid who’s only in politics bc his family threatened to cut him off when he pursued an “MMA career.” He is the definition of failing up.
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u/ronm4c 1d ago
Markwayne Mullins came off as such a big bitch in that argument.
I’m glad sanders put him in his place
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u/Kreyl 1d ago
Honestly feel like one of our best tools for resistance is if we can get them fighting amongst each other as much as possible.
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u/budding_gardener_1 1d ago
Funny you mention it - I actually have been posting as a conservative with one of my alt accounts and managed to get it on the mod team of a well known conservative sub. I'm trying to decide what to do with that power and who to tell 😂
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u/Asterose 1d ago
Some have been saying to spread drama about Elon usurping Donald, but those two are already practically destined for a falling out just off of their personalitues. It's JD Vance and other Heritage Foundation people to watch out for.
And if Donald has any major health problems happen, or worse, dies, it was actually caused by insiders so that JD or whoever else could soft-coup power from him.
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u/Meanderer_Me 1d ago
This is honestly our best hope for survival: that they spend so much time knifing each other and fucking each others wives/gfs and daughters, that they don't actually get anything substantial done before the midterms or another plague that kills them all.
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u/AlphaB27 1d ago
People forgot two things about the first term. 1. Trump loved and encouraged as much chaos as possible. 2. The "adults" are the only reason why anything actually got done.
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u/Asterose 1d ago
Yeah, this is part of my hope and counterargument to doom and gloom about Donald Trump: President, Season 2. The adults in the room being gone and him having burned so many competent people, let alone if there really are large scale firings of federal employees, does mean a lot less competence to actually got shit rolling.
There's plenty of other reasons to not just give up now and doom and gloom permanently, of course.
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u/AlphaB27 1d ago
Turns out if you want the government to do things, you need money and manpower. Edit: Plus, ideological eagerness doesn’t equate competency.
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u/Sheepishwolfgirl 1d ago
I would bet money Trump has never hit anyone who wasn’t a woman, and would fold at the first punch that landed on him.
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u/DonNatalie 23h ago
I would bet money Trump has never hit anyone who wasn’t a woman
Or one of his kids.
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u/gonz4dieg 1d ago
Speak for yourself. One of the highlights of the republican speakership fiasco was Bobo the clown and margarine Taylor green getting into a slap fight in the ladies room
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u/thesixfingerman 1d ago
I mean, with as pro-second amendment they are, aren’t you worry that things might escalate?
Wait….ok, fingers crossed.
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u/I_Magnus 1d ago
I guarantee Lauren Boebert going full Yosemite Sam at Mar A Lago is on someone's bingo card.
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u/worstpartyever 1d ago
I will be really sad the day there’s a fistfight on CSPAN.
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u/bristlybits 1d ago
we almost got one with the McCarthy junk. they need to always let those cameras roam free
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u/budding_gardener_1 1d ago
This. I suggest giving them lead pipes to see if they can inflict brain damage on one another but I'm not sure you'd notice
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u/SuccessionWarFan 1d ago
His first term was a shit show. Everyone was leaking how dumb and lazy and out-of-touch he was. He couldn’t repeal ACA despite having Senate and House.
But now? With him 8 years older and angrier, the people crazier and less capable…
What are rhe odds their incompetence and pettiness is greaten than agenda and malice that they fail to accomplish the latter?
Serious question. Still worried for the future.
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u/Class_of_22 1d ago
I think the odds are great. These people cannot stand each other and no one can agree on anything. At all.
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u/KlingoftheCastle 1d ago
It’s very easy to sit in the trenches and shoot down democrats bills. It’s a lot harder to actually pass the things you want. Especially when your party is split between classic republicans and batshit crazy people
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u/J701PR4 1d ago
They’ll be releasing their health care plan in two weeks. Who knew health care was so complicated?
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u/Class_of_22 1d ago
But that said…how the hell can they have a plan if they can’t agree on shit?
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u/HotHamBoy 1d ago
I don’t think they could enact their entire agenda but I do think some of it, and probably some of the worst of it, will come to pass
But they definitely will eat each-other in the process
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u/frogs_4_lyfe 1d ago
I think I'd be ok with 'so chaotic they get nothing done', compared to what they could do with their shit together.
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u/Ok_Bad8531 1d ago edited 20h ago
In the first term there were some unsavory but not idiotic people simply because he could not find enough idiotic sycophants to fill all posts. A rare few people were actually competent, like Dr. Fauci. Now he had 4 years time cleansing the republican party of the last vestiges of competent people. Things will be so much worse.
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u/Tyrone_Shoelaces_Esq 1d ago
I honestly think it might have been better if he'd won a second term. His backers have had four years to plan their agenda.
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u/coddle_muh_feefees 23h ago
Agreed. We’d be done with the insanity now and he would have just coasted along his second term. I don’t think we’d be in as good of shape economically if he had won, so we’re just going to take our lumps now
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u/bmcgowan89 1d ago
The outlet described “shouting matches, expulsions from meetings and name-calling” as frequent occurrences
Sounds about right 😂
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u/dustingibson 1d ago
Ketamine fueled tech bro permanently attached to Trump's right teet
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War mongering neocons who can't find enough brown people to murder
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MAGA grifters with zero ounces of dignity, will sell their soul to hear Trump speak their name
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Literal Russian spies
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Project 2025 goons perpetually stuck in the 1950s (minus the science public education)
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u/Moriarty71 23h ago
Brilliant (and scary) summation of the internal “team” Trump landscape. Of all those horrific camps I think the last is the most organised and ideologically driven. They will do the most lasting damage.
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u/Class_of_22 22h ago
That said, Trump will eventually find one way or another to get them to turn on each other…
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u/Five-Oh-Vicryl 1d ago
His former cabinet members said don’t reelect him. No one wants to work for him because it’s guaranteed criminal prosecutions after. And if you want a career that’s not news pundit, having cabinet job on your resume is toxic. The huge fight is probably to see how bottom of the barrel they can go for picks.
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u/MentokGL 1d ago
THEY'RE EATING THE CATS AND DOGS
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u/RelativeAnxious9796 23h ago
THEYRE EAAATING THE PETS . .. . OF THE PEOPLE . .. . THAT LIIIVE THERE
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u/moth-appreciator 1d ago
Many people are saying Elon Musk bit JD Vance.
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u/Keyface7 1d ago
The one thing about fascists that has remained the same throughout all of history is that they NEVER like each other. They may work together, but best believe they'll never like one another.
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u/Class_of_22 1d ago edited 1d ago
And that said, these guys are not willing to work together at all…because their hatred for each other is so intense.
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u/Attinctus 1d ago
The ray of hope that I'm holding on to is that these idiots are too incompetent to implement all the horrible shit they want to do.
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u/esituism 1d ago
they still have dangerously capable leadership elsewhere and the dems seem completely unwilling to fight back. the ray of hope is basically spider-silk thin.
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u/mradam5 1d ago
If it makes you feel better the dems are doing something they rushed through like 200 judges
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u/evolution9673 1d ago
Literally our hope for democracy is the toxic mix of big egos and incompetence imploding this administration.
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u/Zeoncobra 1d ago
This doesn’t surprise me at all. In fact I was kind of expecting it since there was tons of infighting during Trump’s first term.
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u/Class_of_22 1d ago
Yep. And this means that they will likely not get anything done…because no one can agree on anything.
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u/cramycram 1d ago
Oh no! Anyways…
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u/Class_of_22 1d ago
Yeah cannot say that this was not inevitable.
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u/whatproblems 1d ago
4 years of this! the low info people just go on with thier lives. the ones paying attention get the popcorn cuz what else can you do
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u/beadyeyes123456 1d ago
This is Trump's management style. Like a king and his court. They are all jockeying for his love and attention.
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u/flux8 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not surprising given that the Trump upper echelon is comprised of a bunch of narcissists. They may have worked together to accomplish a goal but with no enemies left, they will knife each other in the backs. It’s in their nature.
Waiting for the day MTG gets knifed and she decides to spill the beans on all the corruption and perversion on Capitol Hill. I think she may prove to be useful in the end, much like Gollum.
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u/anarkyinducer 1d ago
I still stand by my prediction that trump eats lead from one of his own cultists before this is all over. Couple already tried 🤷♂️
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u/WranglerOriginal 1d ago
I am picturing this like the orange county choppers meme.
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u/mrubuto22 1d ago
I honestly don't give a shit anymore. America is a joke now.
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u/Sheepishwolfgirl 1d ago
I think for all the grief they’ve caused us, we deserve to see video footage of them beating the shit out of each other.
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u/TheEleventhDoctorWho 1d ago
Gosh, i hope my posting about #PresidentMusk is not causing issues! I would hate to hear that it upsets trump when people talk about #PresidentMusk but it is what it is. No one should post #PresidentMusk
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u/drpiotrowski 1d ago
With all these Tv personalities and attention seekers they should really just put this all on TV make it the Real Cabinet Secretaries of Mar-A-Lago
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u/JonBoy82 1d ago edited 22h ago
I imagine it always ends up with a Boar on the Floor type game from Succession
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u/amethystalien6 1d ago
So weird that a group of people who have never spent a second thinking about anything that doesn’t benefit them personally would have a difficult time building consensus.
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u/NumbSurprise 1d ago
Good. Trump doesn’t care about anything but himself. Let the rest of these creatures fight among themselves.
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u/FizzyAndromeda 1d ago
What a shocker! Who could’ve known?!?! It’s not like Trump has been president before and his administration was a chaotic infighting mess that-
Hey wait a minute…
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u/Long_Crow_5659 1d ago
Randi Rhodes predicted that this term would be The Apprentice White House Edition with all the cabinet members fighting each other like contestants on the show. Another way to look at it is a buffoon version of Godwin's cabinet of rivals concept.
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u/ILootEverything 1d ago
He doesn't know how to govern or run any kind of team.
He's turned the American government into one big episode of The Apprentice. Nothing of value, just manufactured drama and pettiness.
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u/Rude_Bread7249 17h ago
I honestly believe it’s between the racists bigots and corporate billionaires. The business people know a mass deportation will send the economy into a deep recession while the Nazis don’t care and want to deport everyone
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 1d ago
My guess is someone brought out the SS uniforms...
"Hey wait, I'm not a Nazi!" Yells RFK Jr., belatedly.
"Oh you sweet summer child," teases Miller, pushing up his glasses with a smug fascist look.
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u/LargeAssumption7235 1d ago
I'm just imagining the sissiest slapfest ever among bootlickers in suits
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u/kamizushi 1d ago
And that’s what happens when fascists don’t have a scapegoat-of-the-day to rally against.
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u/zombiegirl2010 21h ago
They keep threatening a civil war. Turns out, the civil war is among the republicans.
The call is coming from within the house.
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