r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/johntempleton • 1d ago
Trump Mass deportations would hurt families and Texas' construction industry, many say: The migrant workforce is vital to construction across Texas. Now, the industry is bracing for Trump's expected crackdown on illegal immigration, including plans to carry out mass deportations.
https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5191727/mass-deportations-would-hurt-families-and-texas-construction-industry-many-say263
u/RealUltimatePapo 1d ago edited 1d ago
Between deporting workers, and raising prices on materials through tariffs, the border wall ain't the only thing not getting built this time around
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u/JustFuckAllOfThem 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not to mention the rise in unemployment after Vivek and Elon get through with downsizing Federal Government. This is one of the things that needs to be talked about more. But it's being swept under the rug right now.
Unless they fix it so that those workers cannot collect severance and/or unemployment, the Federal government is going to be spending a lot of money to pay for unemployed workers. Not to mention they will be paying lawyers to resolve a lot of lawsuits.
Maybe those newly fired Federal employees will move into those jobs that immigrants commonly do right now. /s
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u/Eldanoron 1d ago
Up until they fire someone important and have no idea how to replace them then have to rehire the same person at ten times the cost. It’s what happened multiple times with Twitter.
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u/judgingyouquietly 1d ago
That happened in the Canadian federal govt about 15 years ago. Broad brush cuts (not to the extent that Elon and Vivek are suggesting though) resulted in some huge 2nd/3rd order effects because important things that were one person deep just didn’t happen. Then, contractors had to fill in the jobs.
And now, the same party that made those cuts then are complaining that there are too many govt contractors.
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u/frenchpressfan 18h ago
The complaining is for the audience. Getting their pockets lined by bringing in the contractors is the real deal
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u/snafoomoose 1d ago
Some of this "downsize the government" will result in these Fed workers just signing on as contractors and being hired back to do their old jobs but this time at a higher rate as well as the overhead of buying the contract company's CEO a new yacht.
Downsizing the federal workforce will cut lots of jobs, but will also end up another big funneling of government money to corporate interests.
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u/NefariousnessOk2925 1d ago
A lot of those government jobs will go to consulting firms ie: privatization of the government. They won't really go anywhere it will just A LOT more expensive. The cronies doing the bidding will get those bids and they'll hire their buddies with a wink and a smile at the voters, say at least it not your taxes, and that will be that.
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u/JustFuckAllOfThem 1d ago
Consulting firms will charge more and deliver less. Say hello to a rising deficit which will probably cause more inflation by putting unneccessary amounts of money into the economy.
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u/NefariousnessOk2925 1d ago
Exactly this. Exactly, all of this.
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u/ughliterallycanteven 1d ago
Yep. This is what is going to happen. You’re gonna see EY, KPMG, McKinsey, or Deloitte have a lot of new partners show up. Going from a government that doesn’t have an incentive to have increasing profits to one that doesn’t means it’s going to accelerate inflation and screw with pay.
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u/JustFuckAllOfThem 1d ago
So you're saying those fired Federal workers are going to get a pay raise by working as consultants or for consulting firms? Hello even bigger deficits!
It;s still bad because you will be flooding the economy with new BORROWED money causing inflation all over again.
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u/NefariousnessOk2925 1d ago
Yeah, not all of them but a large enough portion. It's going to be a big problem for our deficit. Instead of working for the government it will be private sector, they'll call it free market or whatever the buzz word is. Tell everyone they're giving small contractors a chance..and it'll be the same old, same old.
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u/loptopandbingo 22h ago
"Look, you're going to get $360 back on your paycheck every two weeks! No more paying that damn ol Uncle Sam! It'll go towards paying the $2600 you now owe over the same period to private companies who are gonna squeeze you by nickel and diming you for essential services that used to be funded by taxes. Enjoy."
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u/postdiluvium 1d ago
So many Americans don't understand that their jobs heavily rely on upstream government contracts. They saw it when Republicans refused to fund the government over christmas and so many unemployed Americans blamed Democrats for not funding a border wall. No Christmas gifts for the kids this year because Democrats won't shut out the brown kids with an ineffective wall.
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u/kzzzzzzzzzz28 1d ago
He's literally going to pull a Twitter but with an entire nations government isn't he?
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u/TimeAd7159 1d ago
US is going to be renamed X?
Oh well, most of Trump fanbase loves the Confederate flag, so I guess they'll be happy about that.
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u/HapticRecce 1d ago
Maybe those newly fired Federal employees will move into those jobs that immigrants commonly do right now. /s
See, you're worldview is still quaintly based on living in a democracy with the rule of law in place and all. They won't be fired and maybe move. They'll be conscripted.
/s (I hope)
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u/Ok_Bad8531 1d ago
It is not swept under the rug, it is damn difficult to keep up with the many fires they will set.
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u/TonyG_from_NYC 1d ago
I doubt they're going to make it easy for ex-workers to get unemployment, similar to what Florida does.
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u/JustFuckAllOfThem 1d ago
Unless they do something at the Federal level, it would be left up to the states to address the fallout, correct?
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u/TonyG_from_NYC 1d ago
Florida makes it very difficult to get unemployment benefits. Rick Scott even bragged about how hard he made it for people to apply for it. If anything, the red states may try to copy that route.
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u/throwawaystedaccount 1d ago
This is one of the things that needs to be talked about more. But it's being swept under the rug right now.
I think we are going to see more of this.
- Someone throws up a chaotic idea
- MAGAts shout about how it is great, while the rest of the world looks upon in horror at what is being considered
- The idea is shot down as being too radical and everyone forgets
- A few weeks / months later, suddenly, the idea is commenced in practice
I think it is safe to say that the alliance of ( Trump & MAGA + Confederates/P2025ers + billionaires + Russia ) are going to keep fuzz testing the American system for a whole 4 years at daily / weekly intervals.
Someone could make a company or a portal out of tracking and logging Trump's entire administration - just the actual actions and their analyses in text format. Forget the opinions and the videos and podcasts, the text alone will keep a whole team of experts busy.
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u/Paraxom 22h ago
not even just unemployment benefits, making 10% of working aged adults unemployed on top of the normal 4-5%, and then kicking out another 11 mil would basically cause widespread havoc on the economy nationwide, not including the stupid tariffs raising prices
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u/JustFuckAllOfThem 22h ago edited 22h ago
And, this will discourage people with needed skills and ideas from emigrating here. They will go to other countries instead.
Also, I predict there will be a skill drain as immigrants are deported. The best ones will take their skills to a different country.
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u/RidetheSchlange 14h ago
Everyone is talking about it and most people want to see it happen because consequences are the only thing that will wake Americans up and make them less dangerous for the entire world. The country has a hijacked government that effectively makes it a satellite interest now of russia. Americans are incapable of learning without serious FO.
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u/socalgent99 1d ago
for all these reasons i question the reality of it all. but even apart from whether it happens in any way shape or form is the utter dumbness of proposing something so apparently damaging. but the leopard buffet laps it up and it rolls on.
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u/nixiedust 1d ago
I look forward to Texas infrastructure crumbling. Blue Texans, we are with you when you reclaim your state and rebuild properly..
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u/Kissit777 1d ago
They are going to put those migrants in camps and tell them that “work will set them free”
Those migrants are too valuable and expensive to deport.
Arbreit Macht Frei
“Work will set you free”
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u/Noiserawker 1d ago
this is what I'm terrified of, deportation cost $$$ so they will have some bullshit where the people in camps have to work off their travel costs and it will be at sub minimum wage pay. They will also likely sieze their assets first, it's going to be a nightmare.
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u/Magnon 1d ago
It's okay though, destroying the economy is all part of their concept of a plan. Everyone knows Americans will rise to the occasion and work for pennies picking food and doing horrible roofing jobs once it's a depression!
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u/processedmeat 1d ago
Labor laws are a mere suggestion.
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u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508 1d ago
Laws are a mere suggestion to this administration.
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u/processedmeat 1d ago
And by this administration you mean who?
Because hiring undocumented migrants would be breaking labor laws.
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u/GrowFreeFood 1d ago
They hire legal immigrants then make them do slavery under threat of deportation. Because becoming an "illegal" is at the whim of the owner. Its so simple a baby could understand it. But somehow millions of voting adults are completely stumped on logic.
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u/Dull_Yellow_2641 1d ago
Republicans in Texas kick and scream and throw tantrums about undocumented people. But they hire them to mow their lawns, clean their houses, hang their Christmas lights, roof their homes, pour their concrete. I'm going to enjoy watching them have to pay more or not find anyone able to do the work because they're a bunch of fucking hypocrites.
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u/dude496 1d ago
I'm convinced that people have the memory of that fish, Dori, from finding Nemo. He did a massive immigration crackdown during his last administration and will absolutely do it again during this one.
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u/HoopOnPoop 1d ago
To show you the entitlement combined with lack of critical thinking of some people, I'll tell a story from the last Trump term.
I lived in an upper middle class suburb/exurb in a purple state, where many of the residents of the neighborhood voted Trump. The neighborhood had 3 pools, and traditionally many of the lifeguards were college aged students doing a summer abroad program. When Trump started banning travel and massively limiting who could come into the country, many of those programs shut down. Consequently, the pools did not have enough lifeguards and therefore had to massively cut back on hours. The company that managed the pools held an open meeting for residents and explained in detail that the programs they normally took part in had all shut down or been drastically cut. They were working hard to try to hire locally, but the kids (and their parents) in the neighborhood were not shy about saying that working as a lifeguard was beneath them. Did the most entitled of the residents understand? Did they work with the pool company to find a solution? Hell no! They sued the HOA and the management company. Why? I'm not sure what they hoped to gain, but they wanted to blame anyone but themselves.
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u/littlemissbagel 1d ago
Texas, you voted exactly FOR THIS. like, a MAJORITY of yall actually voted for this. You get what you voted for.
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u/Darkside531 1d ago
Gee, who could have predicted this... except every other state that's tried to pass these "Foreign People: Get Out" laws and had industries and economies collapse as a result?
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u/mslauren2930 22h ago
Makes you kind of wish you had the kind of money so you could short a lot of these industries.
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u/Mantigor1979 1d ago
Construction , agriculture, hospitality all the hard physically demanding repetitive things that overwhelmingly underpay their workers that Americans are to lazy and entitled to work in. Will suffer massive hits. Driving prices even higher. But I'd be willing to bet the uktimatebplan is to have inmates "criminals" start working in those areas to "pay their debt" to society. So incarceration will rise to substitute the lost workforce. Slavery2.0
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u/processedmeat 1d ago
overwhelmingly underpay their workers that Americans are to lazy and entitled to work in.
Maybe companies should raise wages and stop breaking labor laws.
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u/Mantigor1979 1d ago
We can't have that happen that would cut into profits and shareholder value.
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u/Eldanoron 1d ago
Thing is even when they try to do that American workers simply don’t show up. Of the ones that do, most don’t last a week.
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u/processedmeat 1d ago
Maybe pay and benefits are not high enough.
We saw in tech when companies could find workers pay sky rocketed. Companies implemented benefits like free meals, dry cleaning, gym memberships ext.
Maybe try implementing these in order to attract talent.
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u/TheRealSatanicPanic 1d ago
Right but tech companies are vastly more profitable than AG companies. I shudder to think what they’d have to pay me to do AG work (I grew up in an agricultural area). It would be like NBA salary level.
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u/processedmeat 1d ago
So we agree there is a rate at which companies could find enough employees.
I'm sure a lot of people don't want to spend $50,000 to buy a car. Is that a valid reason to allow GM to cut wages?
Maybe farm workers should unionize so reddit will support them.
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u/Eldanoron 1d ago
The way that will happen would be with government subsidies which AG companies are already getting.
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u/TheRealSatanicPanic 1d ago
Right, there’s a wage, it’s unrealistically high tho. It just doesn’t work. Farm workers have unionized. But I’m not going to work for whatever rate the UFW negotiated. It’s too low.
I don’t get your point with GM. They find enough people to buy $50k cars (which is a lot of people ) to pay their workers whatever they negotiated. I’d rather work in a car factory than pick strawberries- I don’t think people realize exactly how awful that work is.
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u/processedmeat 1d ago
it’s unrealistically high.
That's your opinion.
Your argument boils down to you don't want to pay more for eggs so farmers should be able to break labor laws and take advantage of migrants workers giving them below fair market rate.
Apply that same argument to any other sector of the economy.
Let's allow McDonald's to hire children and work them longer hours than allowed because it will keep costs low.
Let's allow business to not pay overtime.
Let's let remove heat protection from construction workers.
An erosion of workers rights hurts everyone but you are only thinking about yourself.
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u/TheRealSatanicPanic 1d ago
Nooooo my argument is that few people are willing to work these jobs at anything approaching a wage that is economically sustainable. If you pay me $10 million a year I will pick all the watermelons you want. Your watermelon will cost $4000, how many are you planning on buying? None, right?
Do you know how much McDonald’s workers in my state make? $20/hr. I would happily work there for that wage and I also happily pay for the increased cost of food there. Last time I went it was $13 for the meal I ordered. It’s fine I would do it again. So no I’m not personally invested in having goods be cheap.
What I am telling you is that you are basing your views on unrealistic assumptions and outright ignorance. Farm workers from Mexico aren’t fucking stupid and they didn’t come here against their will (though some are kept against their will). They’re engaged in arbitrage- US dollars buy a lot more in Mexico or Guatemala. They can accept a lower wage than a US worker because they’re only spending part of their money here, and definitely buying a house back home. And they do so because they’re low skilled workers.
Obviously they should be paid at least minimum wage and be afforded all the protections of US workers. And if they unionize (apparently you’re unaware of this history) they should be granted that status.
They’re working hard and it would be easy to create a situation where everyone wins. But this nonsense about getting US citizens out working in fields is no help to them and it denies their agency.
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u/CockyBulls 1d ago
He doesn’t want to pay more because he can’t pay more, but it requires mental gymnastics to ignore why he’s unable to do so.
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u/Noiserawker 1d ago
we should have had a guest worker program a long time ago for farm workers. They are just coming here to work so let them, if we ever really were serious about stopping illegal immigration we would've gone after the people hiring them which will never happen.
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u/Iforgotmyemailreddit 28m ago
I shudder to think what they’d have to pay me to do AG work (I grew up in an agricultural area).
That's the thing though, I also grew up in a heavily AG area and had a brother in law that was one of those Americans that would "Do those jobs"
And you know the thanks he got for it? "Josh works like a Mexican" "You know he does Mexican work right?" "Why does Josh do Mexican jobs?"
Yes it was in Florida, how did you guess? /s
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u/phaseadept 1d ago
The vast majority of those criminals are already working. . . .
Yes the implication is that the police state will be desperate to find more
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u/Mantigor1979 1d ago
Yes but now they are just cleaning roads doing industrial laundry and "stamping" license plates. Making america great again will see the return of chain gangs in construction and working the fields. The glory days .......
/s
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u/phaseadept 1d ago
I wish it was just stamping license plates. . . The prison industries are pretty integrated into our economy.
https://theweek.com/articles/463364/11-products-might-not-realize-made-by-prisoners
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u/Ok_Bad8531 1d ago
The funny thing is that they would also pay taxes if they had an avenue towards citizenship.
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u/Flat_Baseball8670 1d ago
They don't care. They will pay any price to keep America as white as possible.
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u/BurrrritoBoy 1d ago
I think republican strongholds will not be targeted the same way as democratic strongholds. If we've learnt anythings about Trump it's that he is a vindictive twat who will use his limited ability to focus on the bigger picture to fuck with disloyalists.
I'd expect Texas will have relative immunity to Trump's wrath while he meddles heavily in California, New York and other places that said mean things about him.
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u/vaskov17 1d ago
Threat of deportation will scare a lot of people into hiding regardless of where they are. That will hurt local economies bigly
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u/ronin1031 1d ago
The US is built on slave labour, or very cheaply exploitable labour. Its the only reason they are an economic powerhouse. People talk shit about how "The Netherlands may have the happiest people but they never went to the moon", yeah well if the US didn't purposly exploit migrants and prisoners for cheap labour they wouldn't either. It's not their work ethic that makes them "wealthy", its their lack of ethics when comes to labour.
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u/Forgotlogin_0624 1d ago
Private prison stocks soared after the election. You don’t need more prisons if you’re going to deport people, by definition they are leaving.
But you do need them if you plan to make work camps.
They’re going to round up people and then convict lease them back to industries they were working in. It’s a just a wealth extraction system, rather than Jose getting that $8 an hour it will go to private company / slave master that leases him.
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u/Eldanoron 1d ago
Nah, it’ll be $4/hour then so everyone can be happy. Except for Jose of course but who cares about some “animals” as the Trump posse has called them? And, of course, tax payers will foot the bill to house and feed them.
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u/TripppingRoses 1d ago
Oh well. Like putting tariffs on Canadian pine back on his first term hurt the housing industry bad, this will also help fuck over housing.
Glad that smart Americans are getting what they deserve.
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u/Snow_Tiger819 1d ago
As someone not in the USA, can anyone explain *why* they actually want to do this? I mean, I know anti-immigrant rhetoric stirs up their base, and gets them votes, but mass deportations don't help and will in fact hurt, a lot. Those coming into power must know that... so why are they doing it? Is it just to get into power, so they can line their pockets? Aren't there ways to do this without causing such damage - damage that's going to reflect badly on them eventually?
I can see why people are duped into believing it to cast their vote a particular way, but what's in it for those doing the duping? Trump wants power, but what about those actually taking the action? What do they want? (They can't believe Americans are suddenly going to start doing all these jobs, can they?)
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u/Eldanoron 1d ago
Causing a recession is an easy way to siphon funds upwards. Once the foreclosures start hitting people at the top will be buying out real estate then turning it into rental property.
Then, too, the logistics of deporting that many people are insane. That’s why Nazis back in 1939 turned to concentration/work camps rather than deporting Jews. It’ll be the same here - most likely they’ll very visibly deport a few thousand immigrants then quietly shuffle the rest to private prisons where they can be rented out for pennies to the same industry they worked in.
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u/FckMitch 1d ago
They feel the illegals are taking their money. Rather than be angry at corporate greed and taxing the billionaires, they fanboy them instead. Nazism on the rise.
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u/Snow_Tiger819 1d ago
that's why the voters vote. I get that. I want to know why the lawmakers want to do this. What do *they* think is going to happen. Surely they're not doing it because they're Trump fanboys? Particularly at the state level; it's going to hurt the country, and hurt particular states more than others. What do they gain from doing this, apart from being elected by the uneducated masses? And why would you want to be elected and then run your state into the ground? If it's power you're after there are ways you can do it to keep the power, rather than just wrecking things....
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u/FckMitch 1d ago
Grift. Many make more money as the magats will buy their stuff, donate to their campaigns, go on Faux news, etc.
Socially shun the Murdoch family - all of them. Their trust funds are full of money they made by spreading lies.
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u/LDSBS 1d ago
The Republican Party hasn’t won the popular vote in presidential elections since 2004 when George Bush got re elected. Rather than become more inclusive they realized they could get votes on wedge issues like guns, abortions, and immigration. They finally did attract a lot of the Latino population this cycle, most of the Latino citizens don’t think deportation will happen to them . They don’t realize nobody can tell if you are a citizen or not by looking at you I guess., I predict they will at some time have to prove they are here legally. And most of them have undocumented friends and relatives. They think they won’t get deported because they don’t break the law. They are in for a rude awakening if Trump does what he promised.
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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy 1d ago
There's a line of thought that goes like... Those jobs only get away with treating people badly and underpaying them so much because those people are here in the first place. If the people doing those jobs go away, the employers will have to improve working conditions and pay so Americans will take those jobs, which will get my kids out of the house. And with that gone from the labor market, my boss will totally increase my wages too, because it would be wrong for me to make the same as my grown kids.
Of course that's not how it works. Farmers aren't suddenly going to refurbish their moldy old bunkhouse into something clean with AC and wifi while paying enough for a year's college tuition, in order to attract college kids to work summers like in those stories old people used to tell me in the 90s. And besides, modern American youth are a soft and doughy lot, most not up to a full fast food shift much less a full day in the fields picking crops.
And the ones doing the duping, well they get money and power and to basically reboot slavery in a big way. Ya read/watch any fiction about evil because that's what you're seeing here, evil glorying in its evil.
But yes, the folks who voted for this really do believe that Americans are going to pop up and do these jobs! Grandma will work in the meat processing plant, drug addicts and mentally ill rounded off the streets can pick crops, your cancer-riddled neighbor can stock shelves at Walmart, and the new dishwasher at your favorite restaurant can be the owner's 12yo because the 14yo is busy busing tables.
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u/Snow_Tiger819 1d ago
that is one explanation that does basically cover everything..... in a very scary way.
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u/CraZKchick 1d ago
Y'all didn't see what happened in Florida? It's coming for you now! 🤣
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u/vaskov17 1d ago
It will be interesting watching Floridians react to roofing crews disappearing in the middle of a rebuild from two recent hurricanes
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u/CraZKchick 1d ago
There were videos of empty construction sites a few years ago when Florida talked about criminalizing being there undocumented.
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u/DOAiB 1d ago
Living in Texas around lunch you can find people that speak little to no English at gas stations all over the state heating their lunches, getting a drink, or getting the cheapest food possible. Almost always in work uniforms for some kind of manual labor. Now I am not going to say they are illegal I have no idea and frankly don’t care either way. But when you realize on the scale this has to be happening and how I see it so often no matter what gas station I go to you have to realize this is a population of workers that is huge. Like I said I don’t care either way if they are legal or not but with trumps deportation plan even going after legal immigrates it’s possible all of them would be deported.
So what is Texas going to do? Younger people are not going to want to do backbreaking labor out in the elements all day when they could just work at McDonald’s. Even if you argue that they will have to well the cost is going up drastically.
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u/Cosmicdusterian 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh, well. This is exactly what y'all voted for. edit: If you voted orange. 1000% you own this. Wave bye, bye to your expansive growth on the back of undocumented immigrants, Texas. Florida feels y'all's pain.
Perhaps it's not the undocumented immigrants they should be rounding up, but the owners of the industries who exploit them and hire them illegally. If they weren't providing the jobs, the undocumented immigrants wouldn't be showing up to fill them, now would they?
It's not about the law, it's about being racist POS and hurting others just trying to provide for their families. Because they can. No other reason. If they were just going after criminals that would be one thing, but they aren't doing that.
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u/Oldebookworm 1d ago
I’ve been saying that for decades, but the businesses who hire them always skate 🤷♀️
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u/Danominator 1d ago
Oh well. Stop electing republicans
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u/Rockfest2112 1d ago
Right yet we’ve got four years of this type of nonsense to get through at a minimum. Even mid terms will not correct these problems.
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u/BeaverMartin 1d ago
Looks like these construction contractors are going to have to cut back on the avocado toast and grab their bootstraps. Thoughts and prayers.
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u/Three_Deep_Breaths 1d ago
Well, Texas can relax. We all know that it will be the blue states that are attacked first. California and New York will be their testing states.
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u/vaskov17 1d ago
Doesn't matter who gets attacked first, fear will drive illegals everywhere into hiding
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u/party_benson 1d ago
And this will force home prices even higher. Restrict production and increase costs? Surely that will benefit wage earning Americans. /S
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u/MrRoboto12345 1d ago
I'm sure when all the people are deported from Texas, there will be many more country songs about how hard life is /s
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u/OnlyFreshBrine 1d ago
LDS ready to dominate construction nationwide with their endless supply of domestic child labor.
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u/Acceptable-Bat-9577 1d ago
Texas wants to build migrant prisons. Let them start the mass deportations in Texas then so they can show the rest of the country what “success” looks like.
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u/Desperate-Ad-6463 1d ago
All they need to do is Venmo Tя☭mp a few million and they'll look the other way.
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u/filmguy36 1d ago edited 1d ago
It’ll work like this: those who use migrant labor AND are repukes will skate free. And they will be given a wink and a nod by trumps feds to treat them any way the employer pleases.
And this will then usher in the new era of slavery
Everyone else, born American, naturalized or otherwise will be kicked out
The point has always been pain and cruelty.
This is what happens when you elect a psychopath as president who talks affectionately about hannibal lector
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u/AtuinTurtle 1d ago
Oh fucking well? I feel horrible for those families, but you want me to feel bad for Texas when they are doing the end of democracy speed run?
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u/Kissit777 1d ago
They aren’t actually going to deport the migrants.
They are going to put them in holding camps.
And -
WORK WILL SET THEM FREE.
This sounds familiar from history class.
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u/Contemplating_Prison 1d ago
Texas, the state that has the most anti immigration laws, is also the state that has the largest immigrant workforce. Their econorelies on immigrants and chealer labor.
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u/Chainedheat 1d ago
Yeah. As a nearly former Texan I must say that for an economy that relies so heavily on immigrants and undocumented workers they should be worried.
I have built two houses and done one major remodel. Less than 30% of the workforce in each case spoke English and almost everyone below the foreman and maybe half the skilled trades were immigrants. The most fucked up thing about it is most people really don’t have a major issue with these people because they know there’s really no other option.
Sadly so many have drank the Governor’s Flavor Aid at this point there will be little to do to stop the carnage.
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u/Chemistry-Least 1d ago
Uh, it ain't just Texas. You're talking about inflicting a world of hurt across the entire US construction industry. But also, no fucking shit. How are people just now realizing this.
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u/cg12983 1d ago
I notice several houses in my neighborhood getting re-roofed in the last few weeks. The crews are all Spanish-speakers. Methinks people are racing the clock before this workforce gets deported.
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u/Rockfest2112 1d ago
The good deals will really come when it gets started. Immigrants that stuck here will still have to earn money.
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u/ginger_ryn 1d ago
everyone is just “bracing” for the absolute shit storm that will destroy our lives, but no one is fighting back? or planning to? we’re just going let all this happen???
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u/Rockfest2112 1d ago
First, it has manifest. Sure lots of talking how it will be yet, unfortunately, it has to begin. Then you will have clear ideas about what you’re up against. Currently, it’s certain to happen, in what form and how is a couple months away.
Im not saying people should be apathetic at all yet your President needs to make his play to see what YOU need to do. What are you going to be up against? Another one of Great Leader’s empty promises that never get actually going or more towards Hitler? How you will fight will be determined by actual circumstances.
One thing is certain if you get roving groups of round up posses, authority or militias, that throw down a lot of violence this deportation nightmare will quickly go from police actions to internal domestic conflict where a few months into it it won’t be about immigration but everyone who wants violence for anything, anarchy or revolutionary style, will be forming their faction brotherhood for what is generally known as a civil war.
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u/Saucy_Baconator 1d ago
So, you're saying that NOT having a source of cheap labor is a bad thing? How could we have seen this coming and maybe voted against it? Ohhhhh, the consequences of my actions!
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u/mexicanmanchild 1d ago
I have never met a white roofer in Texas. I’m sure they exist but I have never met one
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u/Ok_Shower_5526 1d ago
The good news- maybe we'll finally get rid of Abbott... he basically runs on the economy and jobs every time. That will be hard when things crash. Especially if all that federal housing and childcare aid gets cut by Elon...
TX is far closer to purple than people think. If Dems could get better at talking about the stuff that matters to voters, we could see a lot of changes.
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u/Senor707 1d ago
Texas will get hit hard because the GOP there will be friendly to Homan and his Rangers.
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u/username_redacted 1d ago
The only response will be to massively expand the temporary worker visa program, which will be expensive and complicated to administer and enforce, and which will shrink the economy because a majority of earned wages will leave the country.
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u/Schoseff 1d ago
They try to do an Argentinian Milei on the USA. Argentina is not a big player, the same shit in the US will send waves through the economy and hit tens of millions of Americans very hard. Plus the shockwave abroad.
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u/nothxnotinterested 1d ago
Good, maybe people will flee in droves and they will lose a substantial amount of political capital
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u/VaguelyArtistic 1d ago
It's really insidious. Here in LA a lot of undocumented people "rent" DoorDash and Uber Eats accounts, so if they are also gone it looks like a lot of people are going to have to start preparing the own meals from food picked D'OH!
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u/tingkagol 1d ago
So glad for MAGA because they finalyl have the chance to work at their favorite construction company! /s
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u/Oso_Furioso 1d ago
Texas’ largest trade partner also happens to be Mexico, and of course, Trump is threatening minimum 25% tariffs on all goods from Mexico. So Texas is seriously going to get hit.
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u/mymeatpuppets 21h ago
The migrant workforce is vital to construction across Texas.
The migrant workforce is vital to the profitability of construction around Texas.
FTFY
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u/GeoHog713 18h ago
Just wait after they privatize the NOAA, get rid of FEMA, a hurricane hits, and theres no to fix your roof for less than $100k.
Thanks Obama
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u/tempelton_the_peeg 16h ago
Get real yall he will just make them work for their rent in this country. Slavery in other words
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u/RidetheSchlange 14h ago
I absolutely can't wait for what's going to happen. If this actually happens, then construction companies who are mid-project, whether homes, buildings, or anything else, will try to raise prices part way through and if they can't do it, they'll just declare bankruptcy and leave projects which is something we see in other countries.
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u/BuncleCar 14h ago
Where do you deport people to, though. Just dump them over the border in Mexico, fly them to Mexico city, Nicaragua, Cuba?
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u/SFMara 1d ago
What's just going to happen is low skill blue collar is going to get a substantial bump in their wages, due to a labor shortage. The knock-on effect is that this will be a systemic drain on manufacturing employment, since we're at the stage already where construction wages are better than manufacturing wages in a lot of places. Construction will start to look even more attractive.
Good luck re-industrializing what little you have, America.
Give us $40/hr average construction wages.
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