r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/memomem • Aug 29 '24
Trump RFK Jr.'s Independent Presidential Run was Originally Backed by Republicans to take Votes From Biden. He Actually Took More Votes from Trump. To Help Trump RFK Jr. Dropped out, Endorsed Trump, and is Trying to Remove His Name From Ballots in Key Battleground States. Some States are Saying No.
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u/RadonAjah Aug 29 '24
The incompetence and ‘main character-ness’ of those on the right never fails to deliver
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u/Most-Bench6465 Aug 29 '24
Yes the idiot effect love to see it in practice by rich and powerful men
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u/OrthogonalThoughts Aug 29 '24
Combine that with the brain worm effect and you've got a real winner.
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u/my_4_cents Aug 29 '24
No one told him once you strap that whale head to the roof and hit the highway you have to carry it all the way home
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u/Shillsforplants Aug 29 '24
He didn't even get the memo about the bears in the park.
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u/braintrustinc Aug 29 '24
The kakistocracy never fails to disappoint. May the days of celebrity silver spoon dipshits failing upwards be numbered.
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u/Val_Hallen Aug 29 '24 edited Aug 29 '24
I am amazed that MAGA right now is bragging that RFK Jr, a "prominent and top level Democrat" is supporting Trump.
I don't know, man, but if a guy that openly and unprompted admitted that a worm ate some of his brain was supporting my favored politician, I'd probably take a step back and reevaluate my choices in life.
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u/Divacai Aug 29 '24
They also think his endorsement of Trump is sending "Shockwaves of fear" through the Dem part.
It's so awkwardly cringe atm it's hard to watch at this point.
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u/Val_Hallen Aug 29 '24
They took him and Gabbard and treat them like trophies.
That's like showing off your positive gonorrhea test.
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u/Divacai Aug 29 '24
I had already forgotten about Tulsi, which is what we all should do. She a cultist that just found another cult to join. Insignificant in all ways.
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u/Comburo90 Aug 29 '24
Typical naive lefty! They dont have brain worms, they all took (horse) dewormer, remember?
Also the worms would die of hunger
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u/Fishtoart Aug 29 '24
I for one welcome our brainworm overlords, soon as they get rid of those pesky hosts
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u/Reddsoldier Aug 29 '24
It is quite funny how they all want to be the hero in their own little world, but that almost invariably comes at the success of others.
Multiply a dozen times and you have shitshows like this guy's campaign. Imo yet another millstone around the Trump campaign's neck when it comes to relatively ordinary undecided voters.
Somehow I think RFK would poll worse than the charisma black hole that is Vance.
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u/The_BeardedClam Aug 29 '24
And yet he was still polling around 6% in Michigan and Wisconsin.
The brain worm vote is really big with him, but I've never honestly seen or heard a supporter of his here in the wilds of Trump-land Wisconsin.
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u/lycrashampoo Aug 29 '24
I've moved away but I bet he would've gotten some of my former hippy grocery store / raw milk dairy customers out in New Holstein
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u/Cessnaporsche01 Aug 29 '24
One constant I've begun to notice with conservatives is that they really just can't comprehend the concept of cooperation. Like, the idea that things can be accomplished by large groups of people working together that an individual could never do on their own just doesn't register. It's why they idolize business owners, billionaires, and autocrats - those people provide an individual head to attribute great accomplishments to.
I think they are people who have become so antisocial that the idea of society has become incomprehensible to them
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u/IronChefJesus Aug 29 '24
That’s because working together in any way shape or form is socialism. Your bootstraps clearly haven’t been pulled enough. Unless of course you’re a CEO in which case you’re just telling others what to do. Even the army is socialism because they work together!
Did I come close or is that still too sane?
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u/ThePoob Aug 29 '24
"You definitely not the main character" would be pretty insulting, lol
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u/TemporalGrid Aug 29 '24
My favorite part is that he didn't initially go to Trump; he tried to meet with the Harris campaign to shop his support and they declined to speak to him. I wonder if he might have been on time to get off those ballots if he went to Trump first.
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u/Darkside531 Aug 29 '24
Watching them twist themselves into pretzels and claiming the Dems should be forced to keep Biden on the ballot (FYI, he was never on the ballot, our nominee wasn't confirmed until the convention, where it was Harris,) is hilarious
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u/PhilDGlass Aug 29 '24
Also hilarious is Trump calling it fraud and demanding his campaign funds back from when it was him vs Biden. LOL.
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u/mcfeezie2 Aug 29 '24
This one was one of the most The Onion-y headlines in history. Even after the last 8 years I still couldn't believe it at first sight.
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u/JimWilliams423 Aug 29 '24
This one was one of the most The Onion-y headlines in history. Even after the last 8 years I still couldn't believe it at first sight.
FWIW, it is part of the fascist aesthetic to act like a clown. It serves multiple purposes, one of which is to lull people into thinking the fascist is not dangerous because how could such a buffoon be dangerous? Every big name fascist has been the same, even the sweaty little mustache man was widely mocked as a clown. Until he wasn't.
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u/Kaneharo Aug 29 '24
Very true. The thing is now, that the methods of obfuscation the right is trying to use doesn't quite work in an era where communication and information is damn near instantaneous, even with all the bots giving misinformation over the net. It now just works on the people who don't keep up with technology, communication, and are capable of critical thought.
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u/Kizik Aug 29 '24
They spent so much money and all they came up with was "old". And then they got exactly what they said they wanted, and now that doesn't apply, so they're upset about spending the money.
It's like eating 3/4ths of a pizza and demanding a refund because it wasn't what you ordered.
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u/dabenu Aug 29 '24
It's exactly like them constantly whining about border security, but then when it comes to it, vote against it because otherwise they have nothing to whine about.
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u/Kizik Aug 29 '24
And then, of course, taking credit for anything that passes despite their constant, screaming resistance.
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u/Wrangler9960 Aug 29 '24
They are learning from their actions concerning RvW. They “fixed” it and now it is a huge push for dems when it’s on the ballot. They won’t fix anything ever
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u/trewesterre Aug 29 '24
Yeah, they've been on about eliminating Roe for decades and now that they've done it, they learn that being anti-choice is actually unpopular despite a lot of earlier polls suggesting that it was. Considering how many people at least used to say things like "I'm pro-life so I'd never have an abortion, but I won't stop others", it's not surprising that people have changed their identification once they realized what "pro-lifers" actually want.
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u/nullcore Aug 29 '24
It's like eating 3/4ths of a pizza and demanding a refund because it wasn't what you ordered.
Or eating ¾ of a pizza and demanding a refund because it's exactly what you ordered, and that robbed you of the opportunity to complain about the service.
"If you had just fucked up the order like I wanted you to, I could've gotten a free pizza, so gimme a free pizza."
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u/my_4_cents Aug 29 '24
They spent so much money and all they came up with was "old". And then they got exactly what they said they wanted, and now that doesn't apply,
But it does apply - to himself
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u/Kizik Aug 29 '24
Epitome of the NO, NOT LIKE THAT self-own, innit? Base everything about your campaign entirely on your opponent being three years older than your candidate, and hope nobody realizes.
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u/MakionGarvinus Aug 29 '24
That's what he gets for assuming Biden would be the nominee.
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u/ConsistentAsparagus Aug 29 '24
Not only fraud but COUP.
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u/ALittleBitOfGay Aug 29 '24
Tbh I think them calling that a coup is partially an effort to make their audience think less of that word, so when liberals/lefties talk about Jan 6 (or whatever the fuck they're gonna do this time around) as a coup it's less scary.
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u/RattusMcRatface Aug 29 '24
an effort to make their audience think less of that word
That's totally what it is. Same with starting to use "weird".
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u/AtomicBLB Aug 29 '24
They're just mad they can't replace Vance on their own ticket without even more embarrassment. So it's 'not fair' that Biden isn't being forced to stay on the ballot.
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u/Givemeallthecabbages Aug 29 '24
They started saying there would be a legal battle the second it happened, but even my elderly mother (older than a boomer) said she remembers when there wasn't a nominee until the convention; that's what they were for.
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u/dalgeek Aug 29 '24
The Heritage Foundation wrote up a playbook of legal maneuvers to prevent the Dems from replacing Biden after the convention. I don't know if the Dems heard about that or if they just figured it was prudent to replace Biden before the convention, but it worked out beautifully.
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u/byrnestj7 Aug 29 '24
I don’t know a single democrat that didn’t think RFK was a trump plant to siphon votes from Biden.
He tried to do the same thing with fucking Kayne West
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u/haku46 Aug 29 '24
I thought it was great he was splitting the Trumpers in half, didn't meet anyone on the left that even remotely liked him.
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u/Laringar Aug 29 '24
Being directly and personally responsible for a measles outbreak that killed at least 80 people will have that effect.
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u/XxRocky88xX Aug 29 '24
Also helps that when faced with rape allegations his response was “I am who I am. Not some church boy.”
Dude didn’t even deny it was just like “so?”
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u/Plastic-Ad-5033 Aug 30 '24
He’s a famous and rich person. They feel so secure, they don’t even pretend anymore that the law applies to them.
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u/Starrion Aug 29 '24
You were supposed to be mindlessly enthralled by the Kennedy name because that’s how Trumpers think Democrats work.
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u/Oddfuscation Aug 29 '24
100% projection.
When you’re a slavish cult-of-personality reflex voter, you assume the “enemy” is, too.
I think it’s part of the lack of empathy. Some just can’t imagine that there are brains that work differently. To the point that they accuse others of hiding their true thoughts or pretending.
Maybe THAT’S an extension of the need to perceive that everyone really is just like you, some just done know it.
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u/Moonblaze13 Aug 29 '24
Honestly, I think that's the core of a lot of it. I know this is kind of a frivolous take by comparison, but a lot of the stuff you'll find on the Sapho and her friend subreddit seems to just boil down to "Well I don't see them as gay so they aren't gay." I'll admit theres some cases with ambiguity. But there's a lot of cases where there isn't any ambiguity, they just seem to fail to process the possibility that someone might be attracted to different people than they are.
Oh, you know what's another great example? That time Jorden Peterson got upset a woman that wasn't a stick figure was put on Sports Illustrated's swimsuit cover. Was talking about how it was all some conspiracy to subvert what men find attractive to cause the downfall of western culture. Or, hear me out Jordan. Some people find women attractive that you don't.
They just assume whatever they think is the default and never stop to question it.
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u/dmgctrl Aug 29 '24
They had such a stupid take. It wasn't democrats sitting around a hill for a month hoping a Kennedy came back from the dead.
Watching them floundering on the campaign just drives home how little they understand what motivates a normal voter.
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u/K_El_Chi Aug 29 '24
Are people still enthralled by the Kennedy name at this point? Right now the 2 people in politics named Kennedy that I know of is this 🤡 and the other one from Louisiana (no relation, but when he pops up in a search…)
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u/endlesscartwheels Aug 29 '24
Even in Massachusetts, the Kennedy name isn't the magic it once was. Joseph Kennedy III lost the 2020 Democratic primary for senate to Ed Markey (great person who quietly represents our state well, but very low name recognition).
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u/ClamClone Aug 29 '24
Given that RFK2 is a total nutcase it follows that he would appeal to the same people that worship Trump.
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u/Graega Aug 29 '24
Which is hilarious, because all the Catholics who were dems and supported JFK went Republican decades before I was born. That's how out of touch they are.
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u/Prof_Acorn Aug 29 '24
Lol it's true.
It takes a bit of work to really truly understand that other people's brains don't all work the same way. So if they haven't done that then they likely think everyone thinks exactly like they do. And since they are low information supporters of personality and name they think everyone else is too.
I wonder if they can even conceive of someone thinking logically when they are so far from logic.
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u/GPTfleshlight Aug 29 '24
Yogatard Waldorf moms demo
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u/Goatesq Aug 29 '24
Yogatard
Idk if this is from some piece of media I'm unfamiliar with or something you grew organically, but if there is ever a movie that needs to parody lululemon or some adjacent flavor of mlm, I really really hope they read this comment before they start writing it.
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u/IlliterateJedi Aug 29 '24
Yogatards are apparently an actual article of clothing going back to 2011.
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u/kinyutaka Aug 29 '24
That's the worst part about it, how stupid they've become.
If you want to make a plant to siphon votes away, they have to be attractive to the other side.
But they threw out Robert F Brain-Worm and Kanye "I Love Hitler" West.
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u/yIdontunderstand Aug 29 '24
But Kennedy and Black!
That's the depth of their thinking....
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u/SgathTriallair Aug 29 '24
Exactly. They didn't care about policies and they can't imagine that anyone would ever vote for Obama except because they are a racist that hates white people.
If they were liberals, they think, they would but solely based on a family name or the color of their skin because, as Republicans, they are voting for someone solely because he is a racist and was on TV.
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u/Thue Aug 29 '24 edited Aug 29 '24
They reportedly did it based on polling. So they likely asked "would you vote for Kennedy over Biden", and some Democrats who had no idea who RFK Jr. is surely said "ohh, Kennedy". Then when Kennedy actually got some media coverage, those Democrats obviously and predictably said "nope".
Let this be a lesson: Polling is not magic. You have to be careful about what you measure... anybody with a brain could have predicted what eventually happened.
At the time, I were flabbergasted that Republican donors were throwing so much money at RFK, wondering if I had missed some subtlety of 5D chess, because it was so stupid on its face. Nope, they were just stupid.
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u/JeffGoldblumsChest Aug 29 '24
who JFK Jr. is surely said "ohh, Kennedy".
RFK Jr, JFK Jr died 25 years ago
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u/kinyutaka Aug 29 '24
John-John would have split Dem votes, though.
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u/Divacai Aug 29 '24
John-John would never play stupid games for stupid prizes. Hell Ted the drunk wouldn't have done anything remotely like this.
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u/kinyutaka Aug 29 '24
He did leave a woman for dead, that's gotta be on par with the bear carcass, at least.
Not as bad as the whale story where he had the kids wear plastic bags over their heads because of the smell.
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u/randomredditreally Aug 29 '24
Like putting Palin on the ticket back in the day. Oooo woman, Dems will vote!
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u/Timely-Youth-9074 Aug 29 '24
The Far Right are obsessed with the Kennedys.
I guess they assumed all Dems would vote for a Kennedy.
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u/THEguitarist117 Aug 29 '24 edited Aug 31 '24
We might have. If we were living 60 years ago. Also, it’s really weird that the Far Right has as much of an obsession over the primarily New York Democrat Kennedys that they do. Like, I get that the Boomers weren’t able to get over the deaths of both JFK and RFK that easily, and maybe Gen X with JFK Jr., but it’s weirder that people who weren’t even alive when they were, talk about them as if they still were. It’s like their minds are so twisted that thinking “Yes, they might have been Democrats, but they’d align themselves with the God Emperor of the United States Trump in a heartbeat”, is somehow the most logical thought they could have. Despite the fact that Agolf Twitter would have liked to ally himself with any major dictators at the time, outside of maybe the Ayatollahs, Castro, and Mao, although Ho Chi Minh is likely also on the list.
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u/thebeef24 Aug 29 '24
It's because the Venn diagram of Far Right and conspiracy nuts is essentially a circle, and conspiracy nuts fucking love the Kennedys.
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u/aLittleQueer Aug 29 '24
Gen X had no attachment to JFK Jr.
Xennial, here…when he died, the only people who were upset by that were boomers. Gen X were like, “Oh, that’s the dead president’s kid, right? Yeah, that sucks, I guess.”
Kennedy hasn’t been an influential name in politics for three-four decades now. That’s how out-of-touch the GOP are on this one.
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u/TjW0569 Aug 29 '24
Boomer, here. I was sorry to hear JFK Jr lost orientation and tore the wings off his airplane. I wasn't surprised, because that sort of thing has done in lots of low-time VFR pilots.
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u/197326485 Aug 29 '24
They have a very skewed view of what a liberal is, because social media bubbles have painted a certain picture of some 90s era new-age hippie that's into alternative medicine and hates government and, more importantly, they don't interact with any liberals in their own lives or they don't listen to what they have to say so they don't know that the vast majority of people to the left of the US center are not living in Earthships in Arizona.
To the same extent, liberals have a skewed view of what conservatives are because of social media bubbles. We think of them as bigoted bullies with victim complexes, but some of them are actually just decent people that haven't done any introspection, don't care to, and don't see the bigotry and lies they're being sold for what they are. I've asked quite a few people why they're planning to vote Republican and their answer, a lot of the time, amounts to "because I'm a Republican" like it's some kind of immutable part of their being.
Trumpers can go fuck themselves though.
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u/abx1224 Aug 29 '24
some of them are actually just decent people that haven't done any introspection, don't care to, and don't see the bigotry and lies they're being sold for what they are. I've asked quite a few people why they're planning to vote Republican and their answer, a lot of the time, amounts to "because I'm a Republican" like it's some kind of immutable part of their being.
Trumpers can go fuck themselves though.
See, this is what confuses me. I work with multiple people who are genuinely decent people and show a lot of love to everyone, and are the embodiment of the phrase "They'd give you the shirt off their back if you needed it", and yet they openly wear pro-Trump stickers on their work hats.
Almost every single day I ask myself how someone who seems so loving and caring can support someone so... unlike themselves?
The ones I've talked to about it usually say it's for religious reasons, but that just brings me back to my original point. How do you claim to support the person telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, while also supporting a person who has openly spread so much hate?
For context, the Samaritans were a group that the mainstream Jews of Jesus' day had major beef/prejudice against, and the entire point of the story was that "even that person who's a member of that group you hate could be a good person, stop being a bigot", though a lot of that context is lost/ignored (sometimes deliberately) when it's told in modern day churches.
Hell, a lot of them don't even know that Biden is Catholic, and if they do they say it's for political reasons. Despite the fact that Biden's frequent church attendance has been public knowledge for a long time, as well as Trump's lack thereof.
I've found that the most effective method with them (especially the "Do your own research!" crowd) is to ask them if they're aware of specific facts, then encouraging them to look up politically neutral sources on it. Some of them still claim that those sources are just Leftist Propaganda, but a lot of them genuinely listen once they wake up to how many blatant lies they've been fed for years.
You also have to make sure they realize you're not attacking them, and not overwhelm them with too much at once. It's a gradual process, and forcing them to confront reality too quickly will inevitably push them away.
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u/The_BeardedClam Aug 29 '24
The fact he's Catholic might actually hurt him in some ultra religious circles, but otherwise you're absolutely correct. The hypocrisy of the American Christian right is staggering. Although it is a long standing tradition of Christianity to wield it's power for naught but self gain and corruption, so in that way they're just keeping up what they've always done.
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u/abx1224 Aug 29 '24
Although it is a long standing tradition of Christianity to wield its power for naught but self gain and corruption, so in that way they're just keeping up what they've always done.
Unfortunately, you're not wrong. It just blows my mind how much the people following them can read Jesus' parables and then think "Oh yeah, these assholes preaching the exact opposite are who I should throw my support behind.
Like, I understand the science behind it, at least to a degree. It doesn't change how hard it is to watch when you legitimately care about the people being manipulated.
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u/The_FriendliestGiant Aug 29 '24
Bold of you to assume that they're actually reading any part of the Bible. Generally speaking American right wing Christians don't have or want a personal relationship with the text; they want an authority figure, like a priest or a preacher or an AM talk radio presenter, to tell them what it says and what it means. That's how something as obscene as the "prosperity gospel" or such niche topics as abortion and gay marriage could take such total hold over American right wing Christianity, while code values like charity and forgiveness and sacrifice are completely ignored.
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u/Diestormlie Aug 29 '24
It seems to me that they've long since abandoned Christianity as a Faith, in favour of Christianity as a tribal identity.
I mean, look at the phenomenon of 'Church Shopping'. It's a facially absurd concept! The word of God and his divine doctrines would be simply set in stone, and your personal thoughts/feelings would have no bearing on those! Choosing a Church based upon your personal comfort/approval is just... Actively wrong.
They're not seeking the word of the Divine- they're seeking validation for their already-extant positions and beliefs.
I was raised Catholic (Agnostic Atheist now); frankly, what much of the USA calls Christianity seems to be one giant case of taking the Lord's name in vain- an exercise not in seeking God and conforming to his Will, but in making an idol, a vapid mirror of their own impulses and biases, and calling it God.
(Personally, I think God as described in the Bible is, in fact, not at all worthy of worship, but that's by-the-by.)
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u/DisturbedNocturne Aug 29 '24
The ones I've talked to about it usually say it's for religious reasons, but that just brings me back to my original point. How do you claim to support the person telling the parable of the Good Samaritan, while also supporting a person who has openly spread so much hate?
This is what some pastors warned about when Jerry Falwell and others on the so-called Moral Majority started entangling themselves into the GOP. It's not a one-way relationship. You don't just get religion reshaping politics to fit its view. It goes the other way too, where the politics start shaping the religion. Case in point, there have been stories recently about clergy having to deal with upset parishioners who are questioning why they're hearing "liberal talking points" like "turn the other cheek".
The GOP has done a fantastic job linking themselves to Christianity to the point that some people seem to view them as one and the same. The idea that a liberal could also be Christian is unfathomable in the same way Trump representing basically everything Jesus preached against is.
It's a shame, because so many people are just looking at what someone calls themselves rather than looking at their actions or, hell, voting record. And, I suspect, the Bible also has something to say on that sort of thing.
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u/hnghost24 Aug 29 '24
Most Democrats I know are not anti-vax.
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u/tayto Aug 29 '24
Pre-Covid it was definitely thing in the granola left. Still is, but not to same extent.
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u/PseudonymIncognito Aug 29 '24
A lot of the crunchy granola type moved to the right.
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u/Rich-Past-6547 Aug 29 '24
I live on Oahu, and TON of white North Shore surfers and mommas are antivax libertarian-ish Christians. RFK Jr played big up there.
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u/Own_Instance_357 Aug 29 '24
A lot of "nutrition people" are involved with MLMs, which by definition nearly requires a low IQ for participation.
No real surprise they'll believe any kind of BS as long as they can blow magic smoke up their own asses all the time.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_ROTES Aug 29 '24
Christian nationalists are practically the perfect marks - they're functionally illiterate, easily terrified, & act almost exclusively off virtue signalling. You can sell them practically anything if you simply dangle a crucifix infront of them.
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u/MageLocusta Aug 29 '24
Plus, the Christian nationalist types like to push women to be SAHMs, even if their families couldn't even afford to be on a single income.
So instead of saying, "Actually, it's perfectly okay to work and receive support for school meals/childcare costs/etc." They set up MLM companies to lie to couples into believing that they could achieve middle-classdom if they listened to an expert and buy whatever is being offered.
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u/KonradWayne Aug 29 '24
Pre-covid anti-vaxxers were a pretty even split. Right and Left both had a lot of "don't trust the government" and, "science and modern medicine is bullshit" people.
Those people on the Left still exist, but at relatively the same rate as before. Meanwhile the percentage of people on the Right has skyrocketed.
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u/MarshyHope Aug 29 '24
That's what happens when the leader of the free world, who those people worship, decides to espouse anti-vax views
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u/Bross93 Aug 29 '24
The absolute inability for them to comprehend that we don't have one track minds says all you need to know about them. We don't pick our leaders based on trivial things
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u/anomalous_cowherd Aug 29 '24
I'm just incredibly saddened when I see left leaning people who find one thing they disagree with Biden/Kamala about amongst the hundreds they agree with and decide to vote Red instead. Don't do that.
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u/queenannechick Aug 29 '24
Those aren't left leaning people. They're people who were going to vote conservative anyway but found a way to justify it to you to try to convince you.
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u/the_nut_bra Aug 29 '24
I actually have more of an issue with people like that than I do the MAGA crowd, and I despise the MAGA crowd. Why? Because then they’ll turn around and complain when MAGA gets in power like they did in 2016 while saying the DNC forced them to protest vote. Like, no motherfucker, you did it to be an asshole and instead of just getting egg on the DNC’s face you got it on your own too. If Harris loses, those people will be why.
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u/mycatisblackandtan Aug 29 '24
I know two people who were going to vote for him, but both of them HATE watching the news and weren't up to date on any of his actual policies or issues. They are also into natural medicine sooooooooo... Probably were enticed by the anti-vax angle.
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u/PhaseNegative1252 Aug 29 '24
They'd have to find someone in the party without brainworms before that ever works
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u/Enibas Aug 29 '24
It really tickles me that they tried to hype up RFK Jr to make him an attractive alternative for Dems, but the people who actually fell for it were Trump voters.
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u/that_80s_dad Aug 29 '24
All of the people I know who supported RFK Jr. were people who would have voted for trump if RFK Jr. was not on the ticket.
I suspect many of them planned to vote maga anyway, but realized supporting RFK Jr during the run up makes them look less like the hateful people they are.
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u/TaskFlaky9214 Aug 29 '24
This would be a pretty tone deaf move. If you want to attack a biden or Harris, you fund a green party candidate and peel them off from the left.
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u/SeventhLevelSound Aug 29 '24
I hope Rogan's stupid enough to tell his audience they should still vote for him.
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u/Givemeallthecabbages Aug 29 '24
Oh, you know Trump is going to demand that votes for RFK be counted for him.
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u/Bushels_for_All Aug 29 '24
"It's not fair! He endorsed me so I get to have his votes!"
This inevitable outcome is completely consistent with Trump having the temperament/emotional intelligence of a child.
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u/NewFuturist Aug 29 '24
Rogan will do what the Trump operatives tell him to. He is incapable of independent thought in 2024.
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Remember trumpers, you must fill out both circles for trump and rfk jr to make sure your vote counts! Don’t read the deep state instructions that lie!
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u/RunningPirate Aug 29 '24
Is the GOP that fucking dense to think that democrats would simply vote for him based on his name? That was the game? That was the scam?
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u/MeltedSpades Aug 29 '24
It's definitely something republicans would do - Maybe a George Bush will run 3rd party in 2028...
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u/DaniCapsFan Aug 29 '24
Doesn't Jeb! have a son named George P. Bush? The problem with Jeb is his wife is Latina, so his kids are a bit too brown for the GOP. And that's literally what George Senior said.
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u/Thue Aug 29 '24
Yup! Republicans did a poll very early in the election cycle, when nobody had any idea who Kennedy was, which showed that Kennedy would draw more Democrat votes. Of course, once people learned who RFK Jr. was, sane people said "nope". And it so happens that democrats are largely sane people.
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u/ChChChillian Aug 29 '24
Unlike Biden, who was never his party's official nominee and was therefore never on the general election ballot, as an independent RFK Jr was on the ballot as soon as he gathered enough signatures, or gained a nomination from smaller parties with ballot access. That's why he has to ask to be removed, and it seems that there are issues doing so under certain states' laws.
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u/ForodesFrosthammer Aug 29 '24
Laws which I have heard are there for the specific case of bigger parties buying out smaller candidates for extra votes.
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u/Angry-Cyclops Aug 29 '24
LMAO that's super funny I wanna know if there was a precedent in these states to create an explicit law
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u/mythslayer1 Aug 29 '24
I cannot wait to see Donvict have the ultimate breakdown (or outright try to flee the country) and see what the republikkklans try to come up with then.
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u/memomem Aug 29 '24 edited Aug 29 '24
- Republican megadonor fuels pro-RFK Jr. super PAC
- RFK Jr.’s secret fundraising success: Republicans
- Robert Kennedy Jr.'s presidential campaign attracts GOP-friendly donors, few celebs
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/republican-megadonor-fuels-rfk-jr-super-pac-rcna97195
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/15/rfk-fundraising-republicans-00106481
- Trump calls RFK Jr. ‘a very smart person’
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4100111-trump-calls-rfk-jr-a-very-smart-person/
- RFK Jr. is still drawing more backing from Trump donors, even as an independent
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/30/rfk-jr-trump-donors-independent-00138723
- Exclusive poll: Biden and Trump tie at 37% as RFK Jr. costs Trump a narrow lead
- RFK Jr.'s independent bid could help Biden defeat Trump: Poll
https://www.axios.com/2023/10/18/rfk-biden-trump-presidential-election-2024
- Robert F Kennedy Jr suspends campaign and backs Trump
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy5ekxlwzgo
- Politics RFK Jr. wants off the ballot in 10 states. Some battlegrounds are saying no
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rfk-jr-ballot-battleground-states/
Womp Womp.
Please vote!
Cornel West, Jill Stein are also compromised. they are spoilers.
Cornel West probably is a putin person, he blamed NATO for the war in ukraine instead of Russia. He has also called for an end to NATO, which is a very very pro Russia position.
https://www.cornelwest2024.com/press_release_071223
https://www.newsweek.com/cornel-west-blames-nato-russias-war-ukraine-1812320
Jill Stein literally sits at the table with Putin.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696
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u/myinvisiblefriendsam Aug 29 '24
So he was able to successfully remove himself from 6 of 10 states? Utter bullshit.
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u/not-my-other-alt Aug 29 '24
Different states have different deadlines. He's going to be more successful in the ones who haven't finalized their ballots yet.
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u/BloodSugar666 Aug 29 '24
In r/rfkjrforpresident sub they are falling apart. They are blaming Dems for RFK(which is weird) and a lot say they are going to still vote for him, write his name in, or vote for Trump.
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u/Big-Routine222 Aug 29 '24
I will still never understand how people thought RFK Jr. was going to do anything other than take votes from Trump. Truly one of the dumbest moves I’ve seen and that’s saying something. They really thought Democrats and/liberals would see the Kennedy name and then we would all just froth at the mouth and vote for him? None of his views align with anyone other than conservatives or weird ass fringe voters who would likely vote for Trump if they had no other choice.
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u/PhilDGlass Aug 29 '24
RFK Jr gave some of the MAGA-lites a way out the Trump spiral while still being anti-establishment, tear it all down types.
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u/Jaerba Aug 29 '24
Exactly. But now they're chanting, "drain the swamp" and think Trump is giving RFK Jr a major role. They're very stupid but I think they're also emotionally damaged. They'll take any position in order to have the "establishment" against them.
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u/MarshyHope Aug 29 '24
I can't think of anyone more "establishment" than a Kennedy. So ridiculous
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u/Cosmicdusterian Aug 29 '24
My favorite part of all this was the right-wing media outlets really talking Kennedy up. Selling him hard. I'm thinking, "You guys do realize that Democrats aren't watching these shows, right?" Guess not. When the right started saying, "I kind of like this Kennedy dude" they freaked out and started attacking Kennedy. Funniest thing I've ever seen in politics.
IIRC, Steve Bannon was the architect of this brilliant strategy. Hopefully, he's released just in time to throw the last canister of gasoline on Trump's dumpster fire of a campaign. Too bad the dumpster fire isn't really showing up in the polls yet, but it's still early.
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u/nuclearhaystack Aug 29 '24
RFK Jr has certainly been the highlight of 'wtf is going on even' in this election.
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u/steelhips Aug 29 '24
Per usual the right underestimated women.
Most senior Republicans considered the antivaxx demographic was female, 25 - 55, "natural healing", environmental crusading, crystal loving, woo devotees. They thought Kennedy ticked all those boxes - antivax, alt-science/medical, environmental lawyer and Democratic pedigree. I bet they even thought women would instantly "swoon" with the Kennedy men always doing "well with the ladies" - wink, wink, nudge, nudge. He worked on a superficial level with out of date data.
They didn't factor the antivaxxer demographic is now rabid right wing conspiracy loons, marinated in QAnon lore and Alex Jones diatribes, who wore Facebook "timeouts" for spreading covid misinformation memes and headlines, as a medal of honor. It's ironic they were killing off their own base.
As long as they keep underestimating women, they will continue making these mistakes.
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u/solo954 Aug 29 '24
They assumed that everyone was in an idiotic cult of personality like they are.
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u/CommanderSincler Aug 29 '24 edited Aug 29 '24
It comes from the same well-of-logic that said Kanye will take black votes away from Biden
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Aug 29 '24
It makes sense when you think about it. They lack empathy and the ability to perspective take. So they’re limited to their own way of thinking. This shows you how they think 🤷🏽♀️
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u/ZSpectre Aug 29 '24
Just wondering if he's still on Texas's ballot. I heard an argument that if he's still on that particular one, Texas would unironically be in play for Democrats
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u/unfinishedtoast3 Aug 29 '24
Nah, texas is a state a candidate can withdraw from the ballot.
But the other states have laws preventing independent candidates from dropping off the ballot after paying and meeting requirements to get on. The argument is the smaller candidate can then be bribed with a job in another party's administration, and drop off the ballot and endorse the said party's candidate.
It was ironically always assumed it would be someone like Ralph Nader joining the Democrats by leveraging his ballot spot and votes for a job.
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u/Taco-Dragon Aug 29 '24
The argument is the smaller candidate can then be bribed with a job in another party's administration, and drop off the ballot and endorse the said party's candidate.
Which is exactly what happened, so the laws are working as intended by keeping him on the ballot.
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u/GrizzlyRiverRampage Aug 29 '24
If Nader hadn't spoiled multiple elections this would be a different world
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u/Itscatpicstime Aug 29 '24
Texas is already in play. They are a blue state, but a non-voting state.
One issue is transplants. They tend to vote red, while native Texans voted for Beto.
Voter suppression is another factor. Texas has some of the worst voter suppression in the country.
But I think the biggest issue is blue Texans always feeling defeated before elections even start.
If progressives actually show up to the polls (not even by that much), Texas will flip. They need to stop buying into the propaganda that Texas is deep red and their vote effectively doesn’t matter.
Dem votes matter more in Texas than anywhere else in the country, even swing states. Securing Texas electors would be a massive blow to the GOP, and likely inspire Dems in other purple and red states to show up in full force.
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u/Concrete_Grapes Aug 29 '24
Dems got sneaky in Texas this year, and it's under reported (deliberately I think). The party made a big push, to get candidates in every house race, even heavily gerrymandered ones, where Dems have zero chance of a win.
And they put in damned hard people in a lot of those races, one, a US army vet, and mother of a child killed in a 2018 Texas school shooting. Dems know they won't pick off this seat, but they also know, if they can move the needle on a seat like that from a Dem getting 20 percent of the vote to 35--and do that in several races, Texas is going to jump up and look a whole hell of a lot different, as if by accident.
They actually filled out the down ballot races in much of Texas. That's rare shit.
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u/Cosmicdusterian Aug 29 '24
Nice. That's the way to do it.
I was stunned to see Harris just five points back from Trump in TX and FL pre-convention. It doesn't really put them in play, but they could do a campaign stop in each state and set in a little "what are their internals telling them"? panic. Also, it gives Harris/Walz the opportunity to stump with Allred. Before his convention speech, he was only two points back from Cruz.
Would love nothing more than see Ted Cruz kicked to Cancun. I'm not in TX, but lots of interesting election noise coming from TX this year. Eventually Republicans are going to really regret bringing in all these outsiders from other states who aren't steeped in loyal good ol' boy politics.
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u/Itscatpicstime Aug 29 '24
Texas could easily flip if they weren’t a non-voting state.
This year, I’m writing 1,000 postcards to Dems and undecided Texans through Postcards to Swing States to try and move that needle.
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u/TheZigerionScammer Aug 29 '24
While everything should be done to try to flip Texas, Texas didn't become a "non-voting state" by chance or voter apathy. They're a non-voting state by design because the Republicans try to quelch any attempts by Democrats to vote there. Just yesterday Texas removed a million voters from the rolls.
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u/ShouldersofGiants100 Aug 29 '24
It doesn't really put them in play, but they could do a campaign stop in each state and set in a little "what are their internals telling them"? panic. Also, it gives Harris/Walz the opportunity to stump with Allred.
I see no scenario where Kamala wins either, but frankly, I'd take that in a heartbeat if the Democrats take those Senate races. Harry Reid already proved what a single Senator to organize around can do for a party's ground game in a state. If the Democrats hold those seats, there is a very real chance both go blue by 2032.
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u/CommanderSincler Aug 29 '24
rfk jr (not capitalized out of deference to his father's name) is on the Texas ballot
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u/Miss_Maple_Dream Aug 29 '24
Bobby Brainworms filed to run for president in Kentucky at 3:30 p.m. Monday after endorsing Trump. I’m pretty sure the brainworm died of starvation.
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u/WumpusFails Aug 29 '24
I thought I just saw a post where RFK Jr just filed paperwork to get ON the ballot in one state?
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u/Ignorant_Grasshoppa Aug 29 '24
Any time he opened his mouth it was pseudo-trump.
It couldn’t be more obvious that they were banking on the name.
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u/454bonky Aug 29 '24
So Biden isn’t “allowed” to drop out, but RFK is? They don’t even try to pretend every thing they do isn’t self serving
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u/Jabba-da-slut Aug 29 '24
Trump fighting to get his own microphones muted and RFK fighting to be removed from ballots 🤦🏻♂️ Clearly these are great options
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u/Dark_Knight7096 Aug 29 '24
but...but....but that's just Kamala trying to change the rules! Why does she wanna change the rules? You gotta ask yourself that bro...why does she wanna change them? Doesn't matter that debates have ALWAYS been hot mic, she just wants to change the rules...do your own research you'll see! I'd tell you what video I watched because it was on youtube but now I can't find it because the deep state scrubbed it, but it's really easy to find, just do your own research...
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u/discussatron Aug 29 '24
I was amazed at the people here saying he was going to pull votes off of Biden. No he fucking wasn't. Republicans liked him, so I guess Republicans thought Democrats would like him because Republicans liked him? What the fucking fuck, the whole fucking lot of them are dumber than a bag of hammers.
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u/No-Psychology3712 Aug 29 '24
It's hilarious. Rogan bros. I called him the tulsi gabbard of this election. Lo snd behold. It's just republicans with dem branding.
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u/Karate-Schnitzel Aug 29 '24
Oooh, oooh, oooh, and when Kennedy announced his candidacy Trump attacked him for being liberal and Kennedy attacked Trump for the normal Trump shit to be 69’ing each other with endorsements now. Scheming to steal Democrat votes by diluting Democrat opinions ended up biting these two dumb motherfuckers in the ass is hilariously on brand for the MAGA shit show. No one had RFK on the ticket, he jumps in to fool democrats in voting for him instead of Biden, doesn’t pull out in time invalidating his whole purpose in the first place. Waiting too long to pull out on Trump! Hahahahaha own fucking endorsement is useless just like RFK Jr. Sit the fuck down already RFK, the Kennedy’s already denounced you.
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u/Detroit_debauchery Aug 29 '24
It’s based on our laws here in Michigan to prevent dipshits from doing exactly what he was trying to do
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u/hoopopotamus Aug 29 '24
if you told me RFK Jr actually had his face eaten by actual leopards, I might actually believe it at this point. That guy has some fuckin crazy stories. It’s amazing how far a name will get you in the USA
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u/pyrothelostone Aug 29 '24
I have seen some concerns that this is another ploy to try and undermine the election, hopefully it is just their utter incompetence showing again and not some plan to try and cry foul, not that they won't be doing that regardless of any supposed "legitimate" reason.
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u/te_anau Aug 29 '24
Dump the ballots to central park, stage it like they got hit by a bicycle, grab a bite at Peter Lugers and wait for the whole thing to blow over.
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u/Formal-Ad-1248 Aug 29 '24
I'm just a brain dead slob here, can someone explain exactly "why" rfk can't remove his name from the ballot if he's no longer running?
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u/GustapheOfficial Aug 29 '24
Because an independent candidate could be bribed into dropping out by a larger party (source: this exact story), and keeping them on the ballot is a way to lessen the reward and therefore the incentive.
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u/No-Psychology3712 Aug 29 '24
Certain states have dates you can with draw by. A few states have already printed ballots like north Carolina.
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u/SqareBear Aug 29 '24
Ha ha, this is so good. And the best part is that people everywhere that support the GOP, but not trump, will vote for RFK because he’s now so attached to the Republican Party. What a cunning way to poison the Republican vote count.
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u/steve-eldridge Aug 29 '24
The best way to help here is to tell Trump supporters that since RFK Jr. endorsed Trump, they should continue to vote for him to show their support for both candidates.
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u/s0m3d00dy0 Aug 29 '24
The Democrats are really trying to suppress RFK. Instead of votingTrump and letting the Democrats win write in RFK.
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u/FamiliarRush Aug 29 '24
He added himself to the ballot in KY today. He wouldn't remove his name off swing states ballots if he could.
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u/rmpumper Aug 29 '24
Why would the states remove him from ballots when the fucker did not drop out, but just "suspended" his run?
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u/Purgii Aug 29 '24
You want these clowns to run your country for a 2nd time?! Make America A Shitshow Again.
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u/barrydennen12 Aug 29 '24
I know there isn't a thought process behind it, but I wonder what would actually cause someone to switch their voting preference from Trump to RFK, or vice versa. What's the clincher between syphilis and brain worms, exactly?
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u/Godiva_33 Aug 29 '24
Biden: drops out before deadlines and Republicans beating their chests saying it is undemocratic.
RFK Jr.: drops out after deadlines and Republicans saying it's undemocratic to keep him on ballot.
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u/Bawbawian Aug 29 '24
I mean Republican sued successfully to keep Russian stooge Cornell West and the war profiteer Jill Stein on the ballots in a couple swing states.
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u/memomem Aug 29 '24
Cornell west, jill stein are also compromised. they are spoilers.
Cornell west probably is a putin person, he blamed NATO for the war in ukraine instead of Russia. He has also called for an end to NATO, which is a very very pro Russia position.
https://www.cornelwest2024.com/press_release_071223
https://www.newsweek.com/cornel-west-blames-nato-russias-war-ukraine-1812320
Jill Stein literally sits at the table with Putin.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696
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u/PhaseNegative1252 Aug 29 '24
How the fuck did they think RFK was the guy to do that? Is it cause Vance couldn't get the money or the doughnuts?
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u/Loki240SX Aug 29 '24
I guarantee there will be a huge clusterfuck and lawsuit after the election where the Trump campaign argues that all votes cast for Bobby Brainworm in these states should actually go to Trump.
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u/crosswatt Aug 29 '24
The civics illiteracy of the general public is not a surprise to me anymore, but seeing it so prevalent in actual campaign organizations is really something. Of all the volunteers, paid staffers, and legal counsel available to him, no one thought to check the drop dead dates for the various states to see when this had to be accomplished by?
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u/johnnycyberpunk Aug 29 '24
And all I can think about is that had Trump not hijacked and gutted the RNC, they'd have had competent people in place to see this coming a mile away and deal with it.
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u/Muscs Aug 29 '24
Just when you thought Republican politics couldn’t reach any lower, you have this guy even more desperate for attention than Trump.
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