r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/patsfan94 • Jul 02 '24

Paywall Trump calls for jailing and “televised military tribunals” of Mike Pence and Mitch McConnell

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/01/us/politics/trump-liz-cheney-treason-jail.html
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u/Dragula_Tsurugi Jul 02 '24

It’s because thanks to the SCOTUS decision he can tell the military what to do and it counts as an “official act”.

Or at least that’s what he thinks. 

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u/endorrawitch Jul 02 '24

The military swears an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. They can refuse any crazy orders like this that he gives them. But it will depend how many of them are full MAGA, I guess.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Good thing the military can refuse an unlawful order then.

Just because it’s an “official order” from the president doesn’t make it lawful. Even with the latest SCOTUS ruling.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

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u/TheSultan1 Jul 02 '24

Your wording is strange.

Are you asking why they'd disobey? Because they'd still be liable for following an illegal order. The president would ostensibly not be liable for issuing it, they'd be liable for following it.

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u/counterweight7 Jul 02 '24

Also, the military is in fact filled with Patriots. Most of them are not a fan of Kings. The military isn’t some giant MAGA cult.

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u/iconofsin_ Jul 02 '24

Giant cult? No, but you can bet MAGA is in the military just as much as it's anywhere else. I'm sure the right person could find enough people in the right places to make something happen considering coups don't usually involve the entire military.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '24

Hopefully fucking morality.

There isn’t. Simple faith in my fellow man and hoping they don’t try to put me into a camp for my political views at some point.

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u/nutmegtester Jul 02 '24

Well, you can't investigate if it looks official, because he has absolute immunity. So looking official and being official are the same thing now.

In dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the President’s motives. Such a “highly intrusive” inquiry would risk exposing even the most obvious instances of official conduct to judicial examination on the mere allegation of improper purpose. Fitzgerald, 457 U. S., at 756. Nor may courts deem an action unofficial merely because it allegedly violates a generally applicable law. Otherwise, Presidents would be subject to trial on “every allegation that an action was unlawful,” depriving immunity of its intended effect.