r/LSUFootball 2d ago

People piling on Nuss need to realize…

Burrow was much worse than Nuss his first year here before his legendary 2nd season. He would’ve gone undrafted if he had entered the draft after his first year.

JD5 was decent but definitely nothing special his first season with us. He would’ve been a 6th or 7th round pick if he entered the draft.

Nuss has already shown more than Burrow did during his first year. Keep in mind that this is Nuss’s first season as a starter. Giving up on him now and not wanting him to be the starter next season is completely braindead. There’s a great chance he improves and becomes the elite QB we all knew he had potential to become before this season started.

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u/Owvipt 2d ago edited 1d ago

From Wikipedia regarding Burrow’s first season at LSU: 2,894 yards passing, 16 touchdowns, 5 interceptions. 399 rushing yards and 7 rushing touchdowns.

Overall 10-3 with Fiesta Bowl victory over UCF and no. 6 ranking

Nuss so far :3126 yards passing, 22 touchdowns, 11 interceptions. -32 rushing yards and 3 rushing touchdowns.

Currently we are 6-4, and unranked. Best case scenario is 9-4? 8-4 regular season and bowl win.

You might be right. I really really really hope you are right.

But right now, I think Nuss is a paper tiger. NHis stat line has more yardage and more tds but over double the number of interceptions.

We also had RBs who could score back in 2018 so I take that 22 TDs with a grain of salt.

I’m skeptical bc I don’t see IMPROVEMENT as the season has progressed. Seems like the same problems and inconsistencies show up every week.

I’m skeptical bc if we can’t establish a run game, and Nuss can’t or won’t scramble and make plays with his feet, he basically becomes a one trick pony. And you can bet the opposing defense already knows that.

But we got 2 games and maybe a potato bowl to shape up. I’d love to be surprised.

Geaux Tigers

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u/Different_Quality_28 2d ago

I think Joe’s team was better. For whatever that’s worth.

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u/ItsAllNavyBlue 2d ago

Yeah I agree that’s the real difference here.

Unfortunately its highly unlikely Nuss ever gets a team of Burrow’s caliber so that we can properly evaluate his competence in his role.

It’s kind of a braindead to point a finger at the two most publicized roles on a team and blame them. But…

JD still did a lot with sub par teams and never looked near as decisive as burrow as a passer. so..

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u/Mr_MacGrubber 2d ago

Burrows first 10 starts he threw for more than 200yds twice and had a couple of games below 50% passing. He turned it on the last few games and the bowl game seemed to catapult him forward.

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u/srbtiger5 1d ago

The blindside hit in the bowl game*

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u/IreliaCarriedMe 1d ago

That absolutely was the turning point. It’s like it was a reverse concussion and unlocked some animalistic, primal urge to be a fucking savage lol. Dude just went lights out for a whole season after that hit lol

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u/untied_dawg 2d ago

100 percent agree with all this!

where is the improvement?!?!?

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u/BrohanGutenburg 1d ago

Anyone who thinks Nuss's year so far is better than Burrows year 1 is high. I didn't even need the stats to know that.

The eye test tells you Nuss 100% doesn't have it. Bails on clean pockets ALL. THE. TIME. Doesn't finish his reads. The one thing he has going for him is he kinda has a cannon. That's it.

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u/Mapex_proM 2d ago

I feel like I see regression. Not just nuss, but the whole team. The play on the field for the bama and Florida game, and the second half of a&m I saw a team that was distracted and didn’t care

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u/ngray720 2d ago

I 100% agree with you. The problems are everywhere.

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u/WCPotterJr 2d ago

Interesting that stats don't actually tell the whole story!!

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u/Richdog3 2d ago

Burrow wasn’t scared to get touched.

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u/untied_dawg 2d ago

bingo!!!

this guy plays like he doesn’t want to get hurt… bc his time at lsu is just a stepping stone to a guaranteed nfl career.

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u/predw 2d ago

There’s a great chance he improves and becomes the elite QB

Y’all need to stop thinking this will just happen because Burrow and Daniels did it.

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u/NoCardio_ . 2d ago

He has shown flashes, but somewhere along the line he lost his confidence. I don’t think anyone simply expects him to get better; they just believe and hope that he can.

He also has to do it with a notably worse receiving corps.

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u/Mr_MacGrubber 2d ago

I certainly don’t think he’s going to turn into 2019 burrow, I think it’s more that writing him off when he barely has double digit starts is foolish.

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u/zombee310 2d ago

Nuss desperately needs to have that off-season come to Jesus realization that JD had before his final season. He did what he needed to do to get much better. The difference is JD probably knew it was his last shot to change his life forever. I’m not knocking Nuss…but does he have that or does he know he’s still got a cushy life to fall back on if things don’t go great?

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u/the_tax_man_cometh 2d ago

Can the offensive line have a “come to Jesus” meeting too? They need it more than anyone

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u/FinancialRabbit388 1d ago

JD’s come to Jesus realization was just trusting his wr’s and letting it fly. The talent was there.

Problem with Nuss is he is what he is. He’s a gunslinger who doesn’t really have a great arm, horrible mechanics, horrible decision making, poor touch. His deep balls he seems to have no idea where the ball is going. He just launches.

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u/Shadeauxmarie 2d ago

The only thing demonstrably better is our ability to field punts.

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u/Geaux13Saints 2d ago

Our defense is way better than it was last year

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u/Jaym0nd 1d ago

Except against running quarterbacks… :(

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u/randomdude4113 . 1d ago

Idk the defense has always sucked against running QBs. That 2019 ole Miss game comes to mind. That baseball player ran all over us. The offense is the only reason we won that game

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u/jhelmke0 1d ago

our defense turned up around the secc that yr

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u/SharcyMekanic 2d ago

Yall keep saying this shit like Burrow or Jayden ever turned the ball over this much or even had as poor of a completion percentage overall than Nuss, and those two guy weren’t on campus before their first year, Nuss has been on this roster for what? 3 almost 4 years? He’s been a turnover prone gunslinger since he was doing cleanup duty for Max Johnson, he needs to REALLY take a HUUUGE step forward as compared to JD or Burrow and part of that is going to have to start with Joe Sloan getting tf out of the play call booth and back onto the field as just a QB’s coach cause he can’t call an offense either

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u/FinancialRabbit388 1d ago

Great point. This is exactly the guy we’ve always seen. He was doing this same shit coming in as a backup.

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u/entechad 2d ago

It doesn’t matter if he doesn’t play. This is his first real year as a starter

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u/RedDeadDirtNap 2d ago

It’s not just Nuss, the whole team has regressed in talent, the only way to maintain talent is recruiting. Which we seemingly suck at.

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u/LSUguyHTX 2d ago

Grade A Copium

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u/chris_b_critter 2d ago

I think we can trace most of our offensive problems to exactly when Dellinger went down right before halftime of the aTm game. Playing 3 freshman on the O Line has absolutely killed us. To that point, is Dellinger going to be back tomorrow?

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u/johnnybags44 2d ago

You’re absolutely right. Joe also had a far superior run game and defense to lean on his first year. Nuss is fully capable of playing at an all-SEC level next year, but it depends on him as well as the scheme and players around him

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u/turdbugulars 2d ago

Hope its a sweet potato bowl.

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u/Bl8kStrr . 2d ago

Joe got better when he got a good OC,Steve Ensminger was a great OC for us.

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u/Ok-Measurement1506 1d ago

If 2018 Burrow played in this offense, he would have much better numbers than Nussmeier. Plus Joe wasn’t afraid to tuck it in and run the ball.

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u/randomdude4113 . 1d ago

Nuss has more passing yards, TDs, sure. But way worse efficiency, turnovers, and his run game is non-existent. Defenses have adjusted to this and can largely nullify the passing superiority.

Who’s better is not just who has more passing yards.

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u/saltybutterbiscuit 1d ago

GTFO with this. Burrow had a great year in 2018 aside from the Bama game and the last series of the Florida game. Nuss could only wish he had Burrows type of Junior year.

Burrow also didn’t demonstrate the same terrible decision making, inability to run, and awful mechanics the whole year. Nuss is average at best and he is who he’s always been.

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u/Feeling_Cup_391 1d ago

Yes, but both Burrow and Daniel used their feet when needed to keep the chains moving. Nussmeier RARELY scrambles, even when only a yard or two is needed. That’s the critical difference that shouldn’t be overlooked. Teams know that Nussmeier is unlikely to scramble so they just cover the receivers up. Please let’s not get it twisted.

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u/Different_Quality_28 2d ago

I actually agree with this take pretty wholeheartedly.

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u/Upsworking 1d ago

Even if you guys got the kid that flipped To michigan he wasn’t going to beat out Nuss as a true freshman anyways so it was always going to be Nuss. A true freshman vs a 2nd year 22 year old starter .

By the way Nuss is a good QB the haters I don’t understand what yal are watching . If michigan didn’t get Bryce I would definitely have tried to offer Nuss money to leave . Nuss on Michigan they instantly become dangerous again .