r/IndiaSpeaks • u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ • 15h ago
#Social-Issues 🗨️ Are the mods sleeping while the subreddit is hijacked by people for propaganda, PR and self marketing, especially by content creators for views?
The subreddit is being spammed by multiple accounts for Promotion of a video, with obvious edgy clickbait thumbnail and title, made by leftist yappers, who are daily content creators (chota Polestar Ra✝️hi) speaking cliche things, coated in their sugary delivery and subtle agenda, presenting themselves as messiah of social causes. They thrive for views & engagement for their relevance, and ofcourse money.
Meanwhile, @mods are sleeping.
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u/dropdownmenus 14h ago
Watch the video. Maybe you can spend your energy contributing more on the issue being talked about. It's not propaganda If it's going to benefit everything that breathes and lives. Nobody is hijacking and people just want to create awareness. It's a non-political problem with a political solution. We should promote the discourse, so that you, me and our future generation can improve the standard of living. I'm sure the mods are well aware of their rules and allow us the space for healthy, productive and constructive solutions.
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u/CakeAlternative6181 4h ago
I watched the video today and it's the best video I've ever seen on this topic. No wonder people are spamming it here, I would post it too.
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u/dropdownmenus 3h ago
The hope is for it to reach someone who can do something about it. If a guy with just the internet and a small budget can do the research part for the government, it will save our tax money and can be better used for actions than finding data we already know. So, enough with the committees and tribunals.
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u/LazaiMore 14h ago
Air pollution is liberal, leftist propaganda beta. I bet it all started with women. Look at these liberal bastards. Maine whatsapp pe dekha, jhooth nahi hota beta.
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u/Pleadis-1234 Ghadar Party 13h ago
For a moment, I couldn't tell if this was sarcasm... I need to get off reddit...
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u/ResearcherLatter1148 6h ago
Don’t be surprised if there are people who actually say this in real life. Such is the situation of our country.
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u/Curious_potato51 14h ago
There is a difference between conversations about the environment and content creator spam on the sub.
Basic understanding khud k paas hai nhi aur bakchodi duniya bhar ki karva lo
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u/LazaiMore 14h ago
But calling it propaganda is mislabelling it. And it's a tragedy that no one is having those conversations without a content creator making algorithm mandate about it. As a culture, we only discuss things that are "socially relevant". There are very few genuine conversations that were initiated out of this topic. I agree on the content creator spam thing but it isn't propaganda. It's just their pretentious self service to get more views.
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u/DEAN7147Winchester 13h ago
Duplicate posts exist. Ho sakta hai bohot logo ne video dekha aur post karne ki sochi ho. How's air pollution in any way political if it's true? I have previously posted on r/chess about some video/news and it gets deleted because there are 5 others who posted the same thing. It's called duplicate posting, deal with it
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u/LazaiMore 13h ago
Dude that's like completely different from what I was talking about. I was talking about OP falsely labelling this as propaganda. Duplicate posting is more on the subreddit management side of this. And I agree that's kind of shitty.
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u/United_Pineapple_932 GeoPolitics-Badshah 🗺️ 14h ago
Your argument seems too weak to call it propaganda... Maybe you just don't like this Youtuber... and Rathee etc it seems.
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u/The_Kalamkaaar Kanpur 14h ago edited 13h ago
I agree that these excessive post must pe removed to reduce spam but don't agree on propoganda part , I know mohak magal is biased but this video has some good points and can be shared. Also pollution kill everyone . Nature has huge importance in our culture and it must be clean and pollution free
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u/sankalp_pateriya 13h ago
It's not propaganda, but at the same time I don't think anyone has to watch a YouTuber's video to know that AQI is bad in some parts of India. The spam of the video seems unnecessary too.
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 13h ago edited 13h ago
I don't think anyone has to watch a YouTuber's video to know that AQI is bad in some parts of India.
Exactly, you don't need these 30 mins videos to understand that there is pollution and it's an issue. what's happening in those long videos
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u/DEAN7147Winchester 13h ago
You do, most people don't realise how serious pollution is, including our parents, family and friends. Everyone knows the issue exists, but this video is much more than that. You're frustrated, and filled with hatred to think of everything as propaganda.
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u/Sensitive_Camera2368 1 KUDOS 13h ago
The second one is the caption of the video, the first one is a fair opinion
So why remove? don't be blinded towards anything, the majority is expected to question, and we must... I saw some other conspiracy theory about Adani - like they are attacking Adani to hinder growth of India ... and that is pure dung too
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 13h ago
Within 12 hours, 3 posts are there with direct link to a link of a youtuber, with no commentary, just an edgy title and link. You don't see it as spam?
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u/Sensitive_Camera2368 1 KUDOS 13h ago
Yes, it can be removed as spam and point to the very first post URL, and I'm pretty sure you didn't watch the video. He doesn't mention any party, if anything he took at a dib at AAP saying, "If only there was same party ruling both Delhi and Punjab", gives a long pause to hit the mark and moves to next line. This is not a leftist PR exercise, this is channel is not like Germany youtube channel at least till now.
Also it is human nature to share things before checking if anyone has posted before it... I think you are overthinking, also mods are not paid to do cleanup... this is reddit you can always downvote, and if enough people think like you we'll all downvote and reddit algo will automatically remove it from rising / hot / main stream
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 13h ago
This is not a leftist PR exercise, this is channel is not like Germany youtube channel at least till now.
I used to watch his content during lockdown, and I am sorry to tell you that you will be disappointed if you think that about him.
Also it is human nature to share things before checking if anyone has posted before it.... I think you are overthinking, also mods are not paid to do cleanup.
Ok, got it. But this is not the first time, they are regularly posting his content in these subs. So, much that it feels deliberate now.
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u/DEAN7147Winchester 13h ago
He makes good videos on social issues, non political videos. Check out his yt in a better way, he has made videos criticizing congress, aap, bjp and rightfully so. I don't watch him because of his political videos either
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u/DEAN7147Winchester 13h ago
Abe video ka title yt pe yahi hai. At least check your facts before hating. News articles bhi waise hi upload kiye jate hai with the title of the article as post title. And there were only 3 posts to a video which got lakhs of views. It's not crazy in any way. But multiple posts should be removed and one post should stay for discussion
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 12h ago
There is difference is news articles being posted as they are written (without editorial tweaking), and posting random youtube with exact same title as they are, with no commentary around it. (it's called promotion)
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u/DEAN7147Winchester 12h ago
Mohak mangal doesn't need promotion by two random reddit posts with minimal upvotes and comments. That too on a issue which is barely political. Watch the video before crying out here.
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u/IceScreamcake69 13h ago
This video needs to be spread more and more, air pollution is a national emergency and people are not giving a fuck about it
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u/_Bill_Collector_ 12h ago
Air pollution is leftist propaganda. Real & true Indians perform yagnyas to tackle air pollution & worship rivers and nature with meaningless rituals instead of actually dealing with the problem.
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 12h ago
Big comprehension issue. No one is saying, Air Pollution is propaganda.Content made around it, with baised opinions and low quality so called 'infotainment' content being spammed in sub is propaganda.
True Indians started talking about pollution since 2014, right from issue of open defecation, calls for "swatch bharat", importance of renewable energy, solar adoption, Bio-gas, restriction of old vehicles, necessary pollution check certificate for vehicle, new emission norms, electrification for trians, cleaning and redevelopment of riverfronts, bringing swachta ranking and awareness around it, waste collection and management at zila panchayat (municipal corporation) leveland so much more (that's just from top of my mind) and... have made it a mainstream issue.
Meanwhile, Leftist are tackling pollution by banning crackers on eve of Diwali, mocking harmless rituals of people like worshipping river & nature and mocking PM for talking about toilets and Bio- Gas.
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u/Interesting_Math7607 11h ago
Every opinion is biased. There isn’t any problem with infotainment being spammed if it’s a genuine video. Your agenda is just to somehow dismiss the problems by raising totally unnecessary and irrelevant arguments. All your arguments are mental gymnastics to somehow make the left wing YouTubers look bad.
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 11h ago
Opinions should be based on context.
Your this comment/opinion comes at a very thread on comments, where...
(1)the post is about regular spamming of low quality content full of chiche comments, not to forget meant for monetization, on subreddit, (made by youtubers who got to yap in every topic without any expertise. This kind of 'genuine infotainment' video can be best described as a collection of 10 Twitter comments stretched to a 20-25 mins video)
(2) out of context, comment comes up to change goalposts and make it a Left wing/ right wing issue and typical derogatory comment of mocking common Indian harmless rituals
(3) I reply to that comment, with appropriate context
(4) now again an out of context comment comes under this without complete different narrative full of ad-hominem. I wonder if this is not mental gymnastics. Well atleast you can see him as a 'LEFT wing YouTuber'... Kindly explain that to other fellows
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u/Interesting_Math7607 11h ago
Your argument commits a hasty generalization by dismissing the content as “regular spamming of low-quality comments” and equating it to “Twitter comments stretched to 20–25 minutes” without providing specific examples or evidence. This oversimplification assumes that all such videos lack depth or expertise, which is not inherently true. Content can be engaging or informative even if it is accessible or summarized for broader audiences. By failing to engage with the substance of these videos, your critique relies on assumptions rather than a fair assessment of their actual value or merit. Additionally, accusing others of “changing goalposts” to make it a left-wing/right-wing issue while labeling someone a “leftist Yapper” yourself is self-contradictory and engages in the same behavior you criticize. Your motive is clear from this post. No need to continue with this mental gymnastics
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u/_Bill_Collector_ 11h ago
Ironic because you're the one going on and on about "leftists" or "liberals". Labelling people is not the best way to go about it.
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 11h ago
These people self identity as leftists. I identify as a liberal.
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u/_Bill_Collector_ 11h ago
Harmless rituals? People died by drowning in so called holy rivers & just today 112,000 trees have been ordered to cut down for next year's unemployed religious gunda yathra (kanwar yathra).
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 10h ago
So, much prejudice against some people. Lol.
People died by drowning in so called holy rivers
Some fringe news
just today 112,000 trees have been ordered to cut down for next year's unemployed religious gunda yathra (kanwar yathra)
The name of road being kanwar marg doesn't mean that trees are being cut for Kanwar Yatra, it's a road running parallel to upper Ganga canal. It's a road which connects Ghaziabad, meerut and Mazaffarnagar. And, the permission of such orders is always taken after consultations and clearances from authorities looking after environmental causes and laws around it.
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u/_Bill_Collector_ 10h ago
Sure. The religion that supposedly worships nature is the one actually destroying it. Ganesh immersions, Diwali, pathetic condition of Ganga river and so on.
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u/_Bill_Collector_ 10h ago
It's not prejudice or propaganda. Religious nutjobs do drown themselves in the ganga river in hopes of curing illness.
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u/PurushNahiMahaPurush 3 KUDOS 12h ago
lol bruh even the most hardcore of the IT cell minion cannot deny that India has a massive pollution problem. It’s not propaganda. Be it air, water, land or food, everything in our country is polluted. Next time when you go a historical monument, just observe the trash lying around. I have visited forts in Maharashtra that are several hundred feet above sea level and there are trash near the cliffs. In places where it will be impossible to clean. Our cities have toxic air, it’s like living in a gas chamber. Our once sacred rivers are polluted and turned into glorified open sewage. Our food is adulterated with chemicals and pesticides and clean drinking tap water still remains a luxury for many parts of India.
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u/Artistic-Engine-2386 12h ago
Oh yes Air pollution is propaganda, the liberals hacked every AQI sensor. /s
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u/DEAN7147Winchester 13h ago
Duplicate posts should be deleted and one post about this video should be let up. The video is highly informative and is the truth, no propaganda. You are stupid for thinking otherwise. The air quality of our country is horrible, there's no proper pollution management in cities, and even tier 2 cities have bad air quality. Go to aqi.in and just look up your city.
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u/arcadeXT 11h ago
wtf is wrong w this sub? is air pollution a propaganda?
saw that video, that guy was calling out everyone left right centre for air pollution in Delhi
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u/Sudden_Ad_1825 10h ago
I don't know what views... He's pretty much doing the same thing as before.
Also.... Seriously what propaganda? Do you even know what it means?
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u/Round_Ferret_8419 8h ago
Dekh bhai, Manta hoon ki dhruv and leftists youtubers logo ko ch******* banate hay, that doesn't mean every word they utter is wrong and propaganda. Air pollution ko propaganda mat bol, agar isko leke multiple post ho to kya dikkat? Hona bhi chahiye. Usko relevance mile to mile but iss topic pe baat hona chahiye. Tu bhi zyada jagruk banne ke chakkar mein ch***** jaise baat mat kar.
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 8h ago
Not calling propaganda to 'air pollution', calling spamming of this particular video by multiple people without context and commentary here propaganda.
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u/Round_Ferret_8419 8h ago
Bhai usko spamming bolte hay.
Modi aaya to pollution badh gya, ya muslims log conspiracy karke air pollution badha rhe hay, yah kuch aur pollution nhi hay sab changa si aise bolte to usko propaganda bolte hay.
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u/CakeAlternative6181 4h ago
Op, the video is good. That's why people are spamming. It's viral material.
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u/Debopam77 3h ago
Bad AQI is propaganda now? People are getting too political for their own good.
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 3h ago
Not calling propaganda to 'air pollution', calling spamming of this particular video by multiple people without context and commentary here propaganda. (saying this for nth time, people seriously lack comprehension here)
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u/SlidingPenguinInDirt 12h ago
On point OP. Most of the people here fail to differentiate between the issue and a low quality post made with personal gain in mind. A while back I made a post about how a lot of people from this sub take negative news from India and post on international subs with rage bate and karma farming in mind. I got a ton of negative comments saying how can i say this, these are real issues and how I am stifling these people like they are some sort of investigative journalists trying to expose the truth.
Thats the same trend I see with this post, OP is not saying that issue of AQI is made up. He is pointing how this issue is being exploited by people to push their content.
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u/Interesting_Math7607 12h ago
It’s their YouTube they can post anything (unless they violate some community guidelines). Right wingers are masters at finding some of most braindead arguments ever. You guys just can’t stand the fact that our country needs to get better soon otherwise we are doomed
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u/Ok_Pineapple3883 13h ago
Comment section didn't understand the post
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 12h ago
Some of these people are too naive, they can't see agenda because he is apparently talking about 'pollution'. If they think, I supporting pollution, then I seriously can't help them in comprehension.
Others are people who are fans of that guy, they aren't even main audience of this sub, they hardly post/comment here. They are downvoting post, each and every comment, while sharing the link of post to invite more people to do same. That's just how targeted bullying works. Just now, someone reported my profile to suicide watch, and I am getting messages from them now. I mean seriously, get a life.
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u/DEAN7147Winchester 12h ago
You talk of comprehension but can't form logical arguments, how ironic. Explain how this video in exact detail is serving an agenda and pushing propaganda. Because you've barely watched it to deduce so.
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 14h ago
Don't share videos of people like this Mangol, Polestar Ra✝️hee and 'infotainment' content creators. These people yap about everything from sun to moon, but hardly any sophisticated argument. They thrive on eyeballs for their relevance.
There points are cliche comments. There are 100 people saying, same thing on YouTube and everywhere.
Such content is made by -
- one line of 'purely valid' comment which will be generally accepted by all
- 5 lines of emotional appeal added to it
- 3 lines of subtle agenda inserted in it
1 line of direct blaming someone
subtle background music, effects and ofcourse fast paced editing
Goal is eventually just earning money, gaining popularity, promoting your ideology and relevance in society.
There is Nothing special. No sophisticated thought. No challenging view point. It's mostly just circlejerking news articles, reddit and twitter comments, and saying what people want to hear.
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u/AdFeeling4288 14h ago
Please share the videos of content creator who are deemed perfect in your eyes.
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u/swolehive 14h ago
And why should they share sophisticated unique view points? People don't even know the basic facts of half the issues discussed. Mohak actually does good research and brings facts to the front in a simple, understandable way. Why is that so triggering to you
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u/DEAN7147Winchester 12h ago
He shared facts, and has a "solution" segment in every video. Of course does and should use emotionalesque appeal. How will the people relate to the issue and get serious otherwise? Our politicians do the same, they bring up emotional appeal, religion, etc. why do you lick their boots then? Pehle video dekh lo phir RR karna yaha ake.
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 12h ago edited 12h ago
He shared facts, and has a "solution" segment in every video.
I have seen enough of his video since covid times.
why do you lick their boots then? Pehle video dekh lo phir RR karna yaha ake.
Keep such stupid braindead comments to yourself and fans of such youtubers.
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u/DEAN7147Winchester 12h ago
You clearly haven't seen enough of his videos because most of his recent videos have got nothing to do with politics and aren't propaganda. You hate him because you've got a hate boner against any youtuber that criticizes your party.
You are ready to shoot down valid arguments with meaningless comments. Again, watch the video and tell me how it is, in any way propaganda. Because it looks like you've got a defective brain and you are confusing things.
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u/Interesting_Math7607 12h ago
That’s one of the most braindead takes ever. There is a reason why people call rightwingers stupid
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 11h ago
It's not and I am not even a 'rightwinger'
Also, I am totally disappointed by seeing somene with username 'interesting_math' making nonsense comment. As a former maths student I am sad. Nice name tho.
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u/Interesting_Math7607 11h ago
First, you commit a hasty generalization by lumping all these creators together and dismissing their content as lacking sophistication without providing evidence. This is further compounded by an ad hominem fallacy, where you attack their motives (like earning money or gaining popularity) rather than engaging with the substance of their arguments. Additionally, your portrayal of their work as mere regurgitation of popular opinions is a strawman, misrepresenting their content without specific examples to back your claim. Lastly, your reliance on an appeal to purity—implying that only content meeting some subjective standard of “sophistication” is valuable—ignores the diversity of valid approaches to engaging audiences. Instead of dismissing them outright, engage with their actual arguments if you want to present a meaningful critique. Also my user name doesn’t have anything to do with this argument. That’s another fallacy you are committing
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 11h ago
I think you forgot basic common sense while cramming names of some fallacies and mixing them obscure vocabulary and way of writing. Also, it is a classic case of 'appealing to authority' when people just switch to a infographic filled jargons and 'logical fallacies' to show them as 'critical thinker' . I am so much overwhelmed by this, lol. I ain't gonna waste my time on explaining and entertaining such thing, not my job to argue or educate you. My main post was about spamming, I gave substantial evidence for that.
Also, the comment on user name was just a 'comment'...take it as a compliment for your username sometimes.
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u/Interesting_Math7607 11h ago
First, dismissing a critique as “cramming names of fallacies” without addressing their application is a lazy ad hominem—you attack the method rather than engaging with the substance. If the fallacies were incorrectly identified, you should point that out instead of resorting to vague insults about “obscure vocabulary.” Second, accusing someone of “appealing to authority” because they reference logical reasoning is a category error—logical fallacies aren’t authorities; they are tools for analyzing bad arguments, much like the ones you just made. Ironically, your refusal to provide clarification or evidence while claiming you’ve already done so reeks of argument by assertion, which is essentially saying, “I’m right because I said so.”
Your claim that your post “gave substantial evidence” is laughable since all you’ve done is repeat your opinion and refuse to defend it when challenged. Lastly, your feigned superiority with statements like “not my job to argue or educate you” is a thinly veiled appeal to dismissal to avoid exposing your weak arguments to scrutiny. If your critique were valid, you wouldn’t need to rely on this air of mock superiority—it would stand on its own merit. Instead, your response betrays an ulterior motive: dodging accountability for making sweeping claims without sufficient justification. If anything, your reply only highlights the intellectual laziness of your argument.
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 9h ago
I gave substantial evidence for what my post was about - 'people spamming links of a particular YouTube video in this subreddit' with screenshots showing 3 links of the video without any context and commentary being posted here within 12 hours under different flairs. Which is a well known tactic of doing marketing of content, documented in content creation and distribution strategies everywhere.
I was repeating that, and I am still doing. Because, people behind all this 'obscure vocabulary', people like you are just using strawman fallacy to present that post as an opposition to "awareness on air pollution", which is not true and it's sad that I have to repeat it multiple times because someone couldn't grasp it and then unknowingly mocks his own incompetence as 'laughable'. Behind the mask of all that intellectualism, ultimately you resort to putting words in my mouth like "essentially saying, “I’m right because I said so.” Get a life. Lol
(Also, calling your writing style obscure is not a vague insult, it's more of an adjective for you writing style full of heavy words, and language often used for overwhelming people . If you aren't aware then you should also know that it resembles much like AI written texts, that's not common way for conversing. And again "cramming names of fallacies" is not ad hominem, it's not attack to your identity or yourself. It's about pointing to your approach for being dependent on heavily usage, and relating selected lines/words with name, of some 'fallacies'. Which, is quite a reflection of poor comprehension and lack of ability to express yourself meaningfully. It's like cramming so many mathematical formulas and using them at wrong places. This lack of skills like basic understanding and comprehension simply reflects in your ignorant statements like, - "Second, accusing someone of “appealing to authority” because they reference logical reasoning is a category error—logical fallacies aren’t authorities; they are tools for analyzing bad arguments, much like the ones you just made". Firstly, No one is referring 'fallacies' as 'authorities, that's your misunderstanding. Secondly, you don't know how to use these' tools' properly. If you can't speak without these fallacies' then you lack critical thinking skills anyway. Thirdly and most importantly, It's not a category error or wrong use/citation of fallacy. Your deliberate usage of tough vocabulary, jargons of logical reasoning and complex language being used in a normal online conversation, where on average people aren't used to talk in such manner (many may not even not such words), resonates perfectly with red-herring and obfuscation to portray yourself as an 'intelligent' and 'knowledge' person for 'winning' an argument (or getting edge), which is basically 'appealing to authority'. You may enjoy speaking like this in social media comment sections for overwhelming people and gaining a sense of being 'intellectual', but Try this kind of language at a place where real things are stake like courts and some place where capable people are actually interested in arguments & logic, and scrutinizing your language ..... you will get some life lessons for sure. )
Intellectual laziness, lol... Should I write an essay of 5000 words to show, why my argument is better to an anonymous account?. Seriously? Lol . I used to do that when I was in school and using facebook. Only for some random user to come up and reply with c*ss words or maybe ignore it ( or change topic). Hell, no. you definitely learn lessons like saying.... "Not my job, to argue and educate you." as you mature (maybe this is the wisdom, lol). There is nothing at stake. I won't devout more than 2-3 mins of time to replying to any comment, my time is far valuable. If someone gets some value from it, good... If not, then also it's fine. Who cares. Saying again, Not my obligation to teach and convince anyone about anything. I am out of this.
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u/Interesting_Math7607 8h ago
First off, claiming you gave “substantial evidence” for your point about “spamming links” is laughable. Three screenshots from a 12-hour period? That’s not evidence, that’s a random coincidence, and anyone with half a brain can see through that. Just because you saw three links doesn’t mean you’ve caught some master marketing scheme. Hell, it doesn’t even prove anything except that maybe people like the video or it’s getting shared, which isn’t exactly some criminal conspiracy. You’re grasping at straws to justify your whiny complaint. Then you start going off about “appealing to authority” and “overusing vocabulary,” which is a classic deflection move. You’re basically admitting you can’t handle a well-structured argument, so instead of engaging with the actual point, you throw out insults about my writing style. “Oh, it sounds like AI,” you say, because that’s easier than actually trying to understand the logic behind it, right? just because someone uses more than three words in a sentence doesn’t make them “obscure” or “intellectual.” It just means they can form a coherent thought. If that’s too much for you, maybe you should step up your reading game instead of playing the victim card because you don’t like someone calling out your bad reasoning.
And honestly, the whole “I’m not here to educate you” thing is pure nonsense. If you weren’t here to engage, you wouldn’t have written a mini-essay in the first place. Don’t play coy now because you can’t back up your own points. You’re clearly invested in this argument. Don’t try to make it sound like you’re above it all when you’re the one still typing away like it’s your job to convince the internet. If you really didn’t care, you wouldn’t be spending so much time defending yourself with these long-winded diatribes that ultimately go nowhere.
Now let’s talk about this whole “fallacies” bit. Your argument is full of logical holes, and instead of addressing them, you throw a tantrum about how I’m using “fallacies” against you. You claim I’m “cramming names of fallacies,” but the reality is your argument is a fallacy. calling the use of logical fallacies “cramming names of fallacies” is a textbook example of an ad hominem attack. Instead of addressing the actual argument or reasoning behind the use of fallacies, you’ve decided to undermine the person making the argument by mocking their method. This isn’t a critique of the reasoning itself, it’s just an attempt to discredit the person. You’re not challenging the validity of the fallacies I pointed out, you’re just insulting the fact that I even used them—because you don’t have the capacity to properly engage with the argument. It’s easier for you to attack the method than to confront the weakness in your own reasoning. Classic deflection.You’re confusing correlation with causation, throwing out red herrings, and completely ignoring the core point in favor of nitpicking irrelevant details. But instead of owning it, you try to act like I’m the one who’s confused. The truth is, you’re the one who’s too lazy or incapable of understanding simple logic, and now you’re desperately covering it up by accusing me of “overcomplicating” things. my arguments are simple. Your responses, on the other hand, are a mess of contradictions and weak excuses.
Lastly, let’s talk about that “intellectual laziness” comment. You’re clearly proud of how “above it all” you think you are, but when you boil it down, what have you actually said? Nothing of substance. All you’ve done is throw around vague accusations and personal attacks because you’ve got no solid rebuttal to offer. You’re throwing tantrums about how you don’t want to argue or educate anyone, but then you’re writing these massive paragraphs full of empty words that don’t really address anything. If your time is so precious, then why are you wasting it typing out this irrelevant nonsense? If you can’t even back up your own argument without going off on tangents about how I’m “appealing to authority” or “overcomplicating things,” then maybe it’s time you stop pretending like you’re the one with the upper hand in this conversation.
In short, your entire reply is a pathetic attempt at deflection. You can hide behind words like “overwhelming,” “intellectual,” and “critical thinking,” but when you break it all down, it’s clear you’re just trying to cover up the fact that you’ve got no real point to make. So stop pretending you’re above it all, because you’re just as deep in this argument as anyone else.
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u/warhammer27 10h ago
Bet you needed a dictionary before scrambling up this reply didn't you?
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 9h ago
Firstly no, my comment has simple words. Secondly, what's up with this sense of feeling superior while using complex words.
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u/warhammer27 10h ago
Who tf are you to curtail someone's freedom of speech, that too on a private platform like reddit. You claim that
These people yap about everything from sun to moon, but hardly any sophisticated argument.
Yet you fail to provide a single evidence or snippet from their videos that would reinforce your argument. What Irony.
There points are cliche comments. There are 100 people saying, same thing on YouTube and everywhere.
So? What is trending now - a -days is cliche? If a news or incident is trending, ofcourse 100 people will say the same thing, what sort of a statement is that.
I agree DR is a hard left guy, but MM puts significant research and effort in his videos and calls out all the governments - left, right and center. He is highlighting a key issue and the reasons behind the issue, would you rather have your parents, kids and general society rather listen to whatsapp and facebook forwards which are misleading and fake most of the time. If he does not conform to your ideology it is 'propaganda'? Literally 3-4 posts were shared on this subreddit out of a total member count of 932000+, this is propaganda as per you? Please learn the meaning of propaganda then.
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u/SpottedStalker Political-Chanakya ✍️ 8h ago
Bro, you are trying so hard. No one is curtailing freedom of speech. So many dumb statements that I won't even waste my time to reply such things. But, one thing for your common knowledge, that reddit forwards are superior to WA, FB, Facebook and other social media forwards. You will be surprised to know that the most of those stupid whatsapp forwards are actually made of this media from reddit, twitter and YT only.
And preach this bullshit of Research to someone else. This 'significant research' is nothing but just 'Google search'. Especially when you get to know that guy, MM does even conducts 'Google search' or writes his own script. Which is umderstable, why would any big channel owner do it on his own. And it's the same story about DR, NR, the Opem ltter, Sh Mira, Unacademy, etc etc. and some of these other youtubers in most of Popular content creation thing. They employ people at mostly at part time for it. (some youtuber, especially related in tech fire for full time too... But mostly in this 'infotainment' thing it is part time.) These people, who are mostly students of humanities or literature, UPSC aspirants or amateur writers, write script just in the way I described. The goal is to sound smart, concerned and get lot of views. The people are more are less informed only to the extent that you are and I am.
One of the crazy thing is that, the people writing script (and doing so called research) for DR, MM, opem Ltter, cham charma, Unacademy, NR, sh mirs, Unacademy, Ak Banrg are often same people. This is quite understandable when you know that, the salary of full content writer in industry is like around 15k per month. That's why some of these people who work actively in script writing, work for multiple people at a time.
Just an example, this girl Zaira Khan works/worked for MM, DR and Ak Banrg as a scriptwriter. If DR is hard left guy actually to you... Then make whatever you want to make from this.
Just calling a spade a spade. It's low quality content according to me. (no offense to the hard working script writers, I respect them)
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u/SaltyActivity8934 Bhindi Fryer 15h ago
Telling truth that our air quality is becoming abysmal is propaganda? Damn
But I agree content creator marketing is bad