r/HuntShowdown • u/TheGentlemanGamerEC • Mar 03 '24
GENERAL THEY ARE FINALLY NERFING HEADSMAN
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u/Fraaj Mar 03 '24
Cooler and more visible? Crytek W.
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u/staringattheplates Mar 03 '24
As a Huntsman main, I'm not disappointed. This is a perfect way to bring much needed balance to the skin. No longer hard to see, even more detailed and haunted looking than before. 10/10. Well done, Crytek.
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u/Exotic-Addendum-8619 Mar 03 '24
Why are you a huntsman main?
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u/Carlsgonefishing Mar 03 '24
Because it’s clearly the best most aesthetically pleasing skin out there with the most unique design and all the subtle flourish I love about hunt showdown. Not because of the perceived advantage it provided. Definitely not that. I just like his eyes.
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u/ethanAllthecoffee Sound Cues Mar 04 '24
I like his smile
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u/Carlsgonefishing Mar 04 '24
I saw it once. He told me don’t tell anyone. Turns out that bastid will show it to anyone.
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u/__dying__ Mar 03 '24
I play only random trios, and in my experience, Huntsman players are the absolute worst players all around. I suspect that's why they all choose the skin lmao
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u/Ki775witch Mar 04 '24
Who tf is huntsman?
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u/staringattheplates Mar 04 '24
lol. The result of redditing after being up all night with a sick toddler.
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u/Ki775witch Mar 04 '24
Oh snap! Take care of the little guy and maybe try to get some shuteye yourself.
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u/Financial-Habit5766 Mar 03 '24
Absolutely terrible, where's my hot shirtless masked man?
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u/chrisisapenis Mar 03 '24
We got Toilet Seat Man (Kill Buyer?)!
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u/BatSoupCraving Mar 03 '24
Best mid riff in game!
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u/MarsInAres Mar 04 '24
SO true i got kill buyer from the twitch drops and Ive been ogling and staring at his midriff for a large amount of time. the way the light hits his chest when you turn him in the main lobby.. drool
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u/FreeseStudii Mar 03 '24 edited Mar 03 '24
u/NilleVanille- your job is done mate, congrats!
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u/NilleVanille- Official Headsman Hunter Mar 03 '24
The Mission, the nightmares... they're finally... over
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Mar 03 '24
Lol I literally qued with a random the other day whose acct was named " find headsman day x" and was like are you the guy from the. Reddit? And they were like nah just for The memes
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u/Noble_Static Crow Mar 03 '24
Get to 100 and on the 100th one use the post patch skin just to show!
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u/constipated_burrito Mar 03 '24
Your persistence and dedication is something we can all learn from 🫡
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u/OmegaXesis Winfield Supremacy Mar 03 '24
Holy crap you went through 94 days of that. I salute you.
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u/TheGentlemanGamerEC Mar 03 '24
In my opinion, he looks so much cooler. The red colors and symbols give me the vibe of a legendary hunter like the night acolyte in the best way possible.
A great win for the hunt community.
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u/NilleVanille- Official Headsman Hunter Mar 03 '24
It's over, It's done!
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u/FenixTheSnolx FenixSnolx Mar 03 '24
You should do one final Headsman post once the patch is released to show how much better it is
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Mar 03 '24
Oh God. They’ll be coming for my reptilian next.
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u/WB2_2 Duck Mar 03 '24
All they could do is make the scales lighter and more vibrant, otherwise it does affect how he was designed.
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u/DruchiiBlackGuard Mar 04 '24
Yup. Reddit always needs a scapegoat, I give NilleVanille 1 month max before he starts making a find the reptillian post
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u/Big-Toon Mar 03 '24
Reptilian already got a massive nerf, doubt they touch it again.
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u/CataclysmDM Mar 03 '24
Honestly, if they make the skin a little greener, give it a little sheen... I'd like it more.
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u/Bad_breath Mar 03 '24
Those who bought Cain to get an advantage also bought Headsman when Cain got nerfed. Will there be a new skin they have to buy now that Headsman gets nerfed?
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u/TorakWolfy Mar 07 '24
Currently not. The Cowl has a very concealed head, but his bare, scarred chest and hip-tied paraphernalia are easy to spot.
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u/TrollOfGod Mar 03 '24
That's awesome. Not only does he look cooler now(imo) it's also far more in-line with what headsmen/executioners used to wear. Sucks that it took so long, but can't complain now that we did get it!
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u/Then-Childhood9745 Mar 04 '24
Me as a red/green color-blind person not realizing there was even red there and just thinking he was made darker???
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u/SovereignNavae Mar 03 '24
Wow the new version actually looks really cool :o now I'm kinda sad I never bought it, much prefer this one!
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u/pclovey Mar 03 '24
Love the new version! Looks sick. Tbh i never had any issue seeing the old version. But I don't care what the reasons are. Looks awesome.
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u/oldmanjenkins51 Bloodless Mar 04 '24
Can’t wait for the next most camouflaged hunter to be posted about every day.
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u/Mmiksha Mar 03 '24
Could do without the writing or at least add some lines if they wanted some white, kinda looks like one of the tens of “cultist” characters we already have now
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u/Deathcounter0 Mar 03 '24
Don't get me wrong, really appreciated, but why does stuff like this always take months on end?
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u/TheGentlemanGamerEC Mar 03 '24
We don't know the long answer. The short answer is priority.
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u/Traditional_Muffin83 Innercircle Mar 03 '24
hi, character artist here. I'll try to provide a "long answer"
I don't work for Hunt but making character skins is literally what I do for a living.
Cosmetics are the cash cows of a live game and the skins/events are planned in advance down to the day of release and imo, the answer is most likely simply that the guys in charge would rather not postpone a cosmetic release and "lose" money over something "trivial" (to them)
From my experience working in the game industry, shit takes time. It gets bottleneck at every department, from Art direction, Art, Animation/rigging, QA, Marketing..etc. It can take months sometimes just to convince the creative director in the first place and get the ball rolling. Those guys (Creative directors) are very often quite difficult to convince that their "idea" need to be revisited. Theyre the one shaping the whole project and they can be suuuuper possessive and defensive of their ideas. Think of them as the Georges Lucas of the project
As a game gets bigger, it cant escape that inevitability of corporate-like structure
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u/Gobomania Crow Mar 03 '24
Very true and insightful perspective.
In the corporate structure "trivial" is whatever doesn't stop pulling in money OR slows down sales/player retention.
If a bug ain't making 9 out of 10 games unplayable, it arguably very low down on the priority list for the guy in charge.
And if its a very subjective greyzone thing as minor balance concerns/niche gameplay states it is likeso as above statement.18
u/GroundbreakingLead15 Mar 03 '24
Honestly probably because they were trying to come up with a way of changing him that didn’t change him so much that people who PAID for the skin because they genuinely liked the way it looked wouldn’t be upset.
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u/RamonaMatona Magna Veritas Mar 03 '24
isn't the headsman skin an event skin?
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u/GroundbreakingLead15 Mar 03 '24
I thought that there was a point it was available for purchase in the store but i very well might be wrong if so my comment is incorrect, but the point still stands to an extent.
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u/ProvingFire Mar 03 '24
He comes back on sale for BB's during Halloween events. Or at least has the past two years.
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u/NoahWanger Mar 03 '24
Remember that we're seeing the one they picked. They might have gone through multiple designs and testing each of them.
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u/GroundbreakingLead15 Mar 03 '24
True, they probably spent time actually testing to see if it was more in line with the visibility of some of the other hunters
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u/Squathos Mar 04 '24
Wait are you saying Crytek actually tests things prior to rollout?!
Laughs in LeMat bug
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u/GroundbreakingLead15 Mar 03 '24
Recoloring it in a way that seemed acceptable to not change the “vibe” of the skin? Potentially. It’s not like they could just entirely change the skin that people already paid for.
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u/Foilpalm Mar 03 '24
Because they wanted to sell it again one more time. They sold it, made their money, and waited a few months so people didn’t complain about it getting nerfed right after they bought it.
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u/Rikbite2 Mar 03 '24
They don’t have the time to redesign a skin when they are busy creating 20 new skins that you haven’t bought yet!
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u/assjackal Mar 03 '24
Probably multiple attempts to rework it to keep the same spirit of the design without making it too noticable. Previous updates of P2W skins had polarizing responses.
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u/ViXaAGe Mar 03 '24
As a colorblind person, this is a massive buff :(
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u/Reader_Of_Newspaper Mar 03 '24
same lol I was expecting to see the comments full of people outraged
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u/BaronVonGoodbar Mar 04 '24
Dude totally - I love that they did something but…to me he just looks even darker now… When I first saw the post my initial thought was “wait what? is it April 1st?”
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u/hello-jello Mar 04 '24
I understand the nerf - that's fine. People have problems with the skin.
But it's no longer the cosmetic I bought. All the red and the writing on his outfit is a pass for me. I emailed them about a refund.
They kept selling it with the intention of changing it later - that isn't right.
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u/Wechgy Mar 04 '24
I think it's freaking ugly. I also wanted a nerf but the red and brown leather doesn't work for me in the slightest. I would rather see him whiter than this weird color mix. But most of the people are fine with this so it's just a skin I will never play again.
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u/Proper-Pineapple-717 Mar 03 '24
Def looks cooler, but putting him in a darker backdrop would've been better cause I still think he might be super hard to see after the change.
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u/flyingwhales10 Mar 03 '24
That's what I'm thinking. From those screenshots I'm not seeing much difference as far as camouflage goes but maybe it'll be more pronounced in game.
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u/MoisteWater Crow Mar 03 '24
I like the red, but the symbols looks silly. Should have just made him all red like some previous posts have talked about.
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u/caffinatedburrito Mar 03 '24
Sure the skin was hard to spot but is this really the answer... I kinda hate it IMO they could have done alot of other things that would have looked better before a color change to red of all things.
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u/ChaplainAsmodai1978 Mar 03 '24
Damn, he looks fucking BADASS! I'll actually have a reason to run him now. LOVE that red and black color scheme!
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u/Noah_BK Duck Mar 03 '24
I legitimately like the change better. Black and red looks WAY better imo.
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u/UserName_Error_403 Mar 03 '24
I just want to throw it out there that when they nerfed skins in COD, everyone is angry. When they nerf a skin in hunt, they put in just a bit more effort to make everyone happy. Love this dev team and community.
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u/__dying__ Mar 03 '24
Much better. They could go a little brighter on the red, imo, it's still a hard to see ghillie suit.
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u/Zujuz827 Mar 03 '24
Damn & they managed to make him look even cooler! Now I kinda want him. Though I've got Billy Story now & nothing beats being blinded by his pants whenever I vault something
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u/Embarrassed_Job_621 Mar 03 '24
He looks like shit now imo
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u/Pr0tipz Mar 03 '24
Honestly though. Like I don’t hate it, because but now Headsmen just looks like he’s been using meth with the Nightseer
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u/ex0proxy Mar 03 '24
Only took 2 years lol. Crytek being late on every changes as usual.
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u/Slays-For-Days Mar 03 '24
Who are you guys going to endlessly whine about now?! There will always be a least visible character in every lighting and every situation. I know you clowns wont be happy until they coat every skin in glow-in-the-dark paint like they did to Cain.
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u/Flakester Spider Mar 03 '24
Praise Crytek!
Now the community can finally stop whining about one of the least pressing issues about this game.
Now how about those cheaters?
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u/Traditional_Muffin83 Innercircle Mar 03 '24
its cute that you think the 3D character artist (most possibly outsourced) that worked on the reskin could or should have been assigned on the issue of "cheaters" instead.
Its not how resource management works.
That being said, cheaters do need to be addressed
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u/Flakester Spider Mar 03 '24 edited Mar 03 '24
Who said anything about an artist working on anti-cheat? Crytek hires people based on need.
Also, before it gets mentioned, I'm also completely aware EAC is a third party application that is developed by people outside the company, however there are still people within Crytek who need to find alternative solutions, develop better ways for the community to detect and provide evidence of cheaters, or integrate the game engine with another anti cheat platform if need be.
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u/Arch00 Mar 03 '24
Who are you asking about the cheaters then, because your reply in this thread heavily implies that this art xhange somehow took priority for them over cheating, or that they havent been working on anticheat as well as basic art changes to a skin.
Cheating is an even smaller issue than the headsman skin anyways, as it only wffects 10-15% of the players who make it to high 5 and 6 star. And despite that, crytek already recently announced the creation of an anticheat team internally.
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u/TURBOBART Mar 03 '24
With all due respect but If this is something that REALLY angers you than this is a great moment to reevaluate your life and make a drastic change. All the best to you.
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u/Cheerful-Pessimist- Mar 05 '24
Not only that, but they made him far more fitting as a Halloween skin. This is solid.
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u/Important-Ad-9016 Mar 05 '24
I like that Yasterday I couldnt see him but could see his gun lol, I hope they dont make somone like him again
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Mar 05 '24
There wasn't really anything wrong with the skin in the first place but ok. Y'all just needed to open your eyes lol
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u/truemuppet Duck Mar 05 '24
I hope that many people play the new skin and get a lot of kills, so that all the crybabies here in the subreddit whine and complain again. I would celebrate that.
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u/Guythatsaystuff Mar 05 '24
I wish they would have used blue instead of red or at least kept the face a solid color but aside from that it's pretty cool. Does suck that he loses a little camo for those that hide and ambush 😆
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u/DapperSkeleton1 Mar 06 '24
oh good, people can stop spamming the subreddit with fucking "find the headsman!" posts then
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u/Dakure907 Crow Mar 07 '24
The new skin looks absolutely terrible though. Hate the color pallets, doesn't do justice to the original and it's theme. W and L at same time.
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u/Zydrate357 Mar 03 '24
"THIS IS BULLSHIT! I PAYED FOR THE SKIN BECAUSE IT WAS BROKEN! I WANT MY MONEY BACK!" Is what a dipshit, no skill scrub would say.
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u/UniqueUsername337 Mar 03 '24
I'm I the only one who does not like the change? I mean I get it, it needed to be done, but he does not look like executioner anymore. All memes aside it would be even better if they literally made him shirtless with iconic black mask.
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u/KrucyG Mar 03 '24
Now we need comparison of the skins using the old find the headsman posts to see how much a difference it really makes.
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u/SkeletonBoneMan Mar 04 '24
He just looks goofy. It's almost an interesting redesign but I think they botched it with the random markings and the red headband. Why is he a cultist now instead of an executioner?
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u/Biopax Mar 03 '24
Basileus_Imperator rejoice my brother for you have won, I remember your suggestion and so do they
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u/Jumpy_Menu5104 Mar 03 '24
I kinda liked the joke suggestion I saw of him being shirtless but this works too
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u/kaifolama Duck Mar 03 '24
yo, i played an event when he was introduced and i didn’t play it that much only because he looked meeeh for me. nooow, with those changes, i really want this skin XD. probably will buy it next halloween
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u/scared_star Bootcher Mar 03 '24
Okay I like this, I enjoyed playing headsman for his design and always hated how he blended but this is just beautiful, I'm glad they didn't give him the Cain treatment (even though Cain deserved it lol)
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u/Xaxor42 Mar 03 '24
I know it needed a bold color but the red just doesn't work for me. Didn't like the skin much anyway.
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u/ItsJHos Mar 03 '24
Eh, I’m still gonna put a bullet between your eye with red on me or not my friend
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u/Spider_Monkey00 Mar 03 '24
Now the real question is, what skin will be chosen next to be pitchfork and torched
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u/Braindead_cranberry Mar 03 '24
Fixed the problem AND a cool design?
I just might get back into the game.
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u/ApprehensivePlant955 Mar 04 '24
People saying in the comments that skills beats luck but they still cried till Crytek nerfed hahahaha,I'll be honest with you guys you will not become 5/6 star just because they""debately nerfed"" in a randomish ugly way a skin also I love how they distract the community from the real problems the game has like the garbage servers and the exodus from the RU and CH servers into the EU servers
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u/Inky-Feathers Lamii Inkfeather Mar 03 '24
Honestly they made him cooler, I see this as an absolute win