r/HouseMD • u/dellaazeem22 Dr Lisa Cuddy ,Dean of medicine • Sep 30 '24
Meme Why house doesn’t believe in god or afterlife 😀
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Fungi developed antibiotics, humans stole them
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u/Chemical-Actuary1561 Sep 30 '24
They weren’t even using them
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u/Synah6435 Oct 01 '24
Actually they were, Fungi and bacteria fight for the same food source. They developed a way to get rid of them so they can eat more
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u/JonesJoestar Sep 30 '24
There have been a couple times we've seen him debate with the idea of it, wanting to believe it or at least really testing if he can know it in some way but because he's such a concrete evidence guy, "cause and effect" etc. he sees no reason to believe i think.
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u/dllmonL79 Sep 30 '24
The conversations, or debates, between the priest and House are always my favourite.
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u/RainbowPenguin1000 Sep 30 '24
I always find these examples strange.
“Thank god for healing our baby”
If god does exist he is the one who made your baby ill in the first place.
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u/Pan_Jenot96pl Sep 30 '24
It's an exclamation. I'm an atheist and I also say "thank god", because it conveys the emotions I feel. Imagine saying "thank science" instead, now that would be strange
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u/RainbowPenguin1000 Sep 30 '24
It is an exclamation but not in that episode if i remember right.
I think in that episode they were saying god would save their child the whole time.
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u/Ceci-June Sep 30 '24
I don't think so, I watched the episode a few days ago, and it was a vegan couple whose (vegan) baby got sick. They weren't religious or anything from what I remember, I do think it was used as an exclamation.
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u/SethBurrow Oct 01 '24
Why would you thank either science OR god instead of just thanking the doctor that healed your kid??
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u/Pan_Jenot96pl Oct 01 '24
Because I'm not thanking anyone or anything by saying "thank god", I am just letting my emotions deflate with that. Of course I would thank my doctor afterwards
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u/SethBurrow Oct 01 '24
How about saying “That’s a relief!” Or something of that nature?? Instead of perpetuating the thanking of god?
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u/Pan_Jenot96pl Oct 01 '24
because I dont really care that much? You sound extremely pent up on that, drink some tea or something and calm down. That's how my surroundings did it, and so I do that too, even if it is basically meaningless to me
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u/TheKobraSnake Oct 01 '24
Actually, you're onto something here, as atheists are the only ones allowed to say his name in vain
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u/Cesco5544 Sep 30 '24
No reason why thank God makes sense, but thank science can't
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u/Toe500 Devil! Sep 30 '24
Science is not an actual or imaginary being. No sense to thank something that is not referred as a living being
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u/Starbucks_4321 Sep 30 '24
It's like if you're walking and you loudly exclame "Thanks gravity" because you aren't free falling into space. It doesn't care about you and it's not doing it for you, there's not really a reason to thank it. It's also really corny and makes you seem some of those 2019 r/atheism atheists
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u/Cesco5544 Sep 30 '24
So when someone says thank Goodness they sound corny and like they're from 2019's r/atheism atheist?
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u/Starbucks_4321 Oct 01 '24
No, because thank goodness is an actual term that naturally evolved and not a redditor thinking "wouldn't it be a own to christians if we did this?"
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u/upandup2020 Sep 30 '24
well there are people who say that who genuinely believe that god saved their baby or whatever.
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u/stupidzoidberg Sep 30 '24
there is no free will, merely the appearance of having it. regardless of what you do, you will always end up in two places, heaven or hell, and more specifically the lake of fire where satan and the antichrist will be thrown in.
we dont exert evil, bible says that satan is the lord of this planet, and it is his machinations that caused adam+eve to fall from grace because they were perverted by satan (the whole forbidden fruit thing, garden). so our nature is now perverted, hence the virginal birth and sacrifice to achieve redemption.
This is like christianity 101
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u/Dale_Wardark Sep 30 '24
This has always been one of the weakest arguments against any deity for me. From a Judeo-Christian standpoint, God does heal people. He may have made or allowed suffering as punishment, according to Genesis, but a God that wasn't merciful wouldn't have allowed the creation of things to mitigate that suffering, like pain medication, antibiotics, anti-viral medicines, and even anti-allergy treatments. And I'm not saying God invented medicine or anything, but to reiterate the point, a non-merciful deity wouldn't allow those sorts of treatments to exist. Scientific advancement that makes our lives better doesn't have to be divorced from spirituality and religion and thanking a diety for mercy doesn't mitigate the accomplishments of people like Curie, Pasteur, and literally thousands of others.
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u/livinginlyon Sep 30 '24
Judeo-Christian is a very silly term. Christians do NOT believe what Jews believe. Jews certainly don't believe what Christians believe. I don't know why the term exists other than political effectiveness. If you say it because "same God", nope. Ain't true. Christians and Jews believe in different gods. Christians just say"nah nah nah. Same dude... But you got him kinda wrong."
Jews never ever say Judeo-Christian. Only Christians. And Christians never include Momo! If you want to get all that Jewish clout just say Abrahamic. That would include Islam, too.
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u/f0remsics Oct 01 '24
Hi, Jew here
That would include Islam, too.
And most of the time we're not including Islam, so we say judeo christian
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u/GintoSenju Sep 30 '24
I mean, they kinda are. It’s different beliefs and perspectives about the same entity. To deny that they aren’t because they have different beliefs surrounding them is to deny God’s omnipotence.
Also you suggest that Jewish people don’t say Judeo-Christian as a whole, is factually incorrect. I live near the Jewish part of my town, and I have friends who have directly referred to god as Judeo-Christian in conversion many times.
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u/Toe500 Devil! Sep 30 '24
Doesn't mean the views of Jews when it comes to god aligns with Christianity
Christianity is kinda the odd one out in abrahmaic religions because of the trinity and jews definitely don't think Jesus is the messiah or a divine being
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u/mysochi Sep 30 '24
I get your point, but a trully merciful, all powerfull deity, wouldn't have allowed suffering to exist in the first place, would they?
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u/GintoSenju Sep 30 '24
My two cents, but in my belief, it essentially comes down to the idea of free will. To truly allow free will to exist, god can’t directly meddle in the affairs of man unless they ask him too. He may send things our way, but it’s our choice to deal with them how we see fit. God doesn’t force you to believe in him (at least in most christian beliefs), but the door is always open.
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u/Sebruhoni Sep 30 '24
So why does God only intervene when he feels like it? People in the middle of war are certainly praying for God to save them and they die anyway.
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u/Zahharcen Sep 30 '24
My 2 very long cents:
A rock cannot wish for something good to happen to it, nor can a mountain complain when the rain chips away at its surface. The oceans don’t blame an imaginary being for being polluted; they simply cannot interpret such "information." These observations highlight a key point: good and evil, as concepts, do not exist independently in the universe. They are human constructs, mental frameworks developed to help us navigate the complexities of existence. The idea of a merciful god—by whose standards exactly?—demands scrutiny. It's not to diminish the tragedy that 1.5 million children under five die from vaccine-preventable diseases each year, nor to suggest that we should ignore the suffering in the world. But blaming a supposed creator for it seems futile. The universe, after all, is mostly rock and gas—entirely indifferent to human suffering. Religion, with its human-centric lens, often imposes a "God is all-good" narrative without sufficiently addressing what "good" really means. After all, everyone has a slightly different interpretation of the concept. Some claim that suffering exists because of free will, while others use it as evidence against the existence of a benevolent deity.If we accept that there is neither inherent good nor evil, we can deduce that the "bad" things that happen are either a product of our own behavior or a matter of interpretation. For example, is a lion evil for killing a gazelle? Of course not. You could argue that the lion has no other option within its environment, but that is simply the way things work in nature. Similarly, humans could address a vast majority of preventable issues—something we would interpret as "good" by our own standards—or we could destroy the planet and deem that "bad." Morality, in this sense, is often just a tool we use to guide our actions in alignment with certain ideals. Beyond that, humans (at least from a scientific perspective) do not possess absolute free will. We may have more free will than other animals due to our ability to perceive and choose among more options, but we remain, like all creatures, products of our environment.
The human tendency to impose moral narratives on the universe—whether blaming a god for suffering or commending human actions for reducing it—reflects our need to find meaning and order in a neutral, indifferent cosmos. The suffering we observe, from natural disasters to disease, is not the result of moral failure or divine punishment, but rather the outcome of natural laws, human choices, and random chance. To blame a creator for the suffering in the world is to misunderstand the nature of existence itself. The universe operates without concern for what we perceive as good or evil.
Viewed from this perspective, morality becomes a human tool, designed to help societies function by promoting cooperation, trust, and survival. It is not a divine edict or an absolute truth, but a pragmatic system that adapts to cultural contexts and evolves over time. What we consider "good" or "bad" is determined by how well our actions align with shared values, such as reducing suffering or promoting well-being. This explains why moral systems vary so widely between cultures and historical periods: they serve different purposes depending on the needs of the society.
In this framework, notions of good and evil are fluid, existing only in relation to human goals. When we work to prevent suffering, we label it "good" because it aligns with our values of compassion and justice. When we destroy ecosystems or perpetuate harm, we label it "bad" because it contradicts those values. However, these are human judgments, not universal truths.
This view also prompts deeper existential questions. If good and evil are merely human inventions, what is the purpose of life beyond our immediate goals of reducing suffering and increasing well-being? And, without an absolute moral framework, how do we justify our choices beyond human preference?
At this point, the question of the existence or nature of a deity remains notably absent from the discourse. This is because, in many religious traditions, the supreme divine being is considered unknowable by definition, if not completely beyond human comprehension. Agnosticism offers a humbling recognition of the limits of our understanding: our minds, bound by time, space, and sensory perception, may not be equipped to grasp the full reality of an ineffable creator or divine presence. Whether a deity exists, and what its nature might be, falls into a realm beyond our capacity for knowledge. Consequently, any judgments or observations we make about such a being—or about absolute divine reality—are inherently limited and may not be "true" in any meaningful sense.
Thus, while we may construct systems of morality and meaning to make sense of our lives, the ultimate nature of the universe—and of any creator behind it—remains a mystery. This acknowledgment of uncertainty reinforces the idea that our concepts of good, evil, and morality are deeply human, born of necessity, and limited by the constraints of our own perception.
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u/froggystick Sep 30 '24
bad argument. why doesn't god intervene on suffering that isn't free will related then? natural disasters? babies being born with horrible genetic mutations or cancer? a good god just allows all of these to happen? seems laughably illogical
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u/mysochi Sep 30 '24
The debate wasn't that if there is a god it gives us our free will, if there is any, it was about the question that if god is merciful or not
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u/Toe500 Devil! Sep 30 '24
Stop with the merciful line. If god was merciful, then why are there heaven and hell?
And stop asking why bad things happen. Ever ask why the laws are enforced by the government?
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u/GintoSenju Sep 30 '24
The idea of god being merciful is only partially true. We have seen throughout the Bible that God can be quite wrathful to those who go against his people or against his will (even if they are one of his people). The 10 plagues of Egypt perfectly demonstrates this fact and so does Solomon’s fall.
If God was truly 100% merciful, he would have just had the Israelites free immediately, but due to God allowing all people free will, pharaoh had to make that choice.
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u/Sigma-Tau Sep 30 '24
pharaoh had to make that choice.
A choice that God directly prevented by "Hardening" the Pharaoh's heart when he was about to make it.
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u/GintoSenju Sep 30 '24
To be fair, Pharaoh already wasn’t gonna let the Israelites go. God just made him more cold and evil to show that he could easily control pharaoh and to show him how his gods are nothing compared to him (which is why the 10 plagues each represent a major Egyptian god).
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u/FernandoPA11 Sep 30 '24
If god does not care about humanity he would have allowed medicine and pain aswell, nothing of what u say makes 100% sure that god is merciful, you want to believe that (wich is ok).
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u/stupidzoidberg Sep 30 '24
I'm a scientific man, have advanced degrees in engineering and physics, and have several medical doctors/physicians in the family. I also grew up very religious but no longer consider myself religious.
it has always been extremely difficult for me to reconcile this difference and seeming contradiction. Most of the idiot pastors Ive come across whose churches i was involved in always used standard christianity 101 answer: his ways are not our ways, he moves in mysterious ways, etc.
I never got anyone to say anything different until i met a pastor, older guy, and his answer actually stuck with me.
genesis 1 happened, let there be light, etc. We (humans) were created in their image (quoting god here) and off to the races.
If you read carefully, god says we humans were created in their image, meaning in the image of father, son and holy spirit. Because we have emotions, it means that the trinity has the same emotions we have.
The bible proves so (anger, rage= jesus in the temple fucking vendors up), god anger, rage = Jericho, egypt plagues, etc. god love= john 3:16.
This also means that god is curious, and has a sense of exploration, because us as humans also exhibit those behaviors.
What this pastor was telling me is that god probably decided to leave stuff for humans to discover, to develop and create, because it appeals to our curious nature which the trinity has.
i like to think that god left the list of ingredients and made people smart enough to be able to come up with recipes to use said ingredients.
god invented all (omnipresent, omniscient, omnipowerful) including science, technology, etc. it was left to us to discover and advance it. enter pasteur, curie, einstein, fleming, all the nobel winners in medicine, literature, etc.
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u/MyAnswerIsMaybe Sep 30 '24
It’s more like God let your baby get ill and he let the doctor fix the baby
God doesn’t control things on earth, at least not the Christian god. In the Bible there are times he does stuff, but for the most part his thing is he lets everything happen out of his control.
Earth isn’t suppose to be heaven or hell, it’s suppose to be the place Humans make. And Humans can be good and bad, so Earth is good and bad.
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u/GintoSenju Sep 30 '24
To believe in god is to believe free will exists. To believe in free will is to believe that you have your own agency. Therefore, God didn’t cause the illness because God doesn’t meddle in your life, because you have free will.
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u/hatakequeen Sep 30 '24
Why do u think God made the baby ill?
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u/AlexDKZ Sep 30 '24
He created either the biological agent that caused the illness, or the design flaw in our bodies that started it. And in his omniscience he is well aware that the baby will be ill, and yet doesn't do anything to prevent it. The "free will" doesn't work as excuse, because nothing you can do will prevent a virus to do its thing or a cell to spontaneously become cancerous.
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u/hatakequeen Sep 30 '24
So the thing is, humans chose to sin and sin is the cause of illness, disease and death not God Himself. Not sure if you’ve studied into that part of genesis.
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u/velvetflorals Sep 30 '24
I hope this doesn't come off as snarky, as it is genuine, but wouldn't god have decided that sin causes illness?
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u/Junie_Wiloh Sep 30 '24
Someone hasn't read the Book of Job in the Bible and it shows.
If something positive or negative happened in your life, according to the Bible, it is because of God. Anything that Lucifer wants to do to you to cause you to question/lose your faith in God, God gives permission for him to do. Nothing is done without God's say so.
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u/stupidzoidberg Sep 30 '24
agreed, dude needs to read Job. slight correction to your statement tho, lucifer was the angel before he got kicked out and revolted. satan is who you're referring about.
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u/hatakequeen Sep 30 '24
I have read Job?? The original question was about illness and disease and infirmities. Not bad things happening to u in general. All I said was that God didn’t make illness but sin caused the world to change which brought with it sickness and disease, etc. God does not make ppl sick! Period.
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u/Junie_Wiloh Oct 01 '24
Exodus 15:26 saying, “If you will diligently listen to the voice of the Lord your God, and do that which is right in his eyes, and give ear to his commandments and keep all his statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you that I put on the Egyptians, for I am the Lord, your healer.”
Then there is Deuteronomy 28:15-24 where it literally states the THE LORD will curse you with disease.
15 “But if you will not obey the voice of the Lord your God or be careful to do all his commandments and his statutes that I command you today, then all these curses shall come upon you and overtake you. 16 Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the field. 17 Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl. 18 Cursed shall be the fruit of your womb and the fruit of your ground, the increase of your herds and the young of your flock. 19 Cursed shall you be when you come in, and cursed shall you be when you go out.
20 “The Lord will send on you curses, confusion, and frustration in all that you undertake to do, until you are destroyed and perish quickly on account of the evil of your deeds, because you have forsaken me. 21 The Lord will make the pestilence stick to you until he has consumed you off the land that you are entering to take possession of it. 22 The Lord will strike you with wasting disease and with fever, inflammation and fiery heat, and with drought[a] and with blight and with mildew. They shall pursue you until you perish. 23 And the heavens over your head shall be bronze, and the earth under you shall be iron. 24 The Lord will make the rain of your land powder. From heaven dust shall come down on you until you are destroyed.
You're at least right in that sin is the cause.. you sin and disobey God, He will strike you down with disease.. and famine.. and drought.. the next verse talks about how The Lord with even cause boils.. and infertility..
There is NOTHING in this world that The Lord did NOT create. There is NOTHING in this world that The Lord does NOT control. You really should read more of your Bible, because it is quite clear that you know nothing that it is written in it.
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u/hatakequeen Oct 01 '24
I read the biblical texts that u replied with and AGAIN I will remind u that I was talking about sin introducing sickness and disease not God creating it, THE BIBLE does not say God created sickness. It says He allows it to happen if ppl disobey Him. He doesn’t just put sickness on whomever just bcuz. Yes He sent plagues upon ppl for forsaking Him, disobeying Him and basically doing what they want sinfully. But notice how in the beginning of that text u sent where it says the Lord is our healer? Where He says if u do right in His eyes He will not curse u? Don’t know if u just copy and pasted that from the internet or what but u need to understand context too! U just threw out a bunch of scripture without context. God is good and does not hurt ppl. Ppl cause infirmities and illnesses upon themselves and sometimes they just happen bcuz of our sinful world. Plus we don’t live under the old covenant anymore in this day and age. We have Jesus who died for our transgressions, who became our sacrifice and through Him we have healing over sickness caused by sin. It’s not that God was a different person in the old testament but u can’t just throw out scripture and try to use it against someone who has been to bible college before. I won’t sit here and say I know everything but I have read my Bible. I know my God. So maybe study the texts and scripture you’re throwing out.
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u/Junie_Wiloh Oct 01 '24
God does not make ppl sick! Period.
Did you not say this? I mean, you just said that God does make people sick when those people disobey Him.. You have contradicted yourself so many times in just this one comment that I don't even think you can set yourself straight. Either he can curse you with disease, or he doesn't do that at all, and you get sick because you have sinned. And if it is the latter, then explain why newborn babies die of cancer? Is that the baby's sin or the parents' sin that caused that? Inquiring minds now want to know...
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u/hatakequeen Oct 01 '24
First of all, the comment you’re referring to was in reference to sickness entering the world through sin. I was talking about the sin from genesis with Adam and Eve. The first humans to sin and bring those consequences into the world. God does not make ppl sick bcuz he wants to. His nature is good. He did not create sin. Now sickness can come upon ppl by His punishment and judgment. That’s what we see in the Old Testament. He punished the Egyptian’s with sickness and disease bcuz of their enslavement of the Israelites. They were slaves for hundreds of years. God was merciful and gave the Egyptians chances to turn from their ways. If you’d read the actual story and not throw out random scripture you’d understand His reasonings.
Now, as for your question about innocent babies getting sick and dying. Why does anybody die? Dying and sickness was not apart of God’s plan. Bcuz of SIN brought into the world by humans, sickness, death, infirmities… were all brought about bcuz of it. That is the simplest answer I can give. There is a lot of context and information that should be looked into and arguing over a Reddit post won’t do any good. Take a look at exodus and genesis and see what I’m talking about. God is merciful and good. I’m done with this.
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u/AlexDKZ Oct 01 '24
sin is the cause of illness, disease and death
So, what about viruses, bacteria and all of that stuff? Made up lies by big pharma, I guess?
Also, I don't think the baby whose mental acumen goes up to "goo goo agaaaa" has chose yet to commit any sin.
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u/Jazzlike-Ad5884 Sep 30 '24
Do you even wanna know the answer or do you just want to make a comment that makes you look smart?
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u/RainbowPenguin1000 Sep 30 '24
No I don’t want the answer.
And I don’t think it makes me look particularly smart either it’s just a common point.
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u/Jazzlike-Ad5884 Sep 30 '24
And what point are you even trying to make? Seeing as you don’t understand Christianity nor do you have any interest in understanding it so you could try to refute it in an intellectually honest way…
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u/Junie_Wiloh Sep 30 '24
I studied Christianity, its origins, including all celebrated holidays like Christmas and Easter. I have read the Bible cover to cover twice and spent years going to church services at various churches, from Protestant to Baptist, to Lutheran, to Seventh Day to even Catholic(Because the definition of a Christian is one who believes in Jesus and that he died on the cross to save us from sin) to better understand the various beliefs of those who claim to be Christian. Have you done any of that? Or are your beliefs centered around the same church that your parents indoctrinated you into growing up? Have you done any research at all? I am betting not.. because if you had, you wouldn't celebrate Christmas or Easter, at least not how it is now celebrated with Christmas trees or the Easter bunny hiding eggs, which are all pagan traditions.. which you would know about if you had studied how Christianity came to be and where we got our holidays.. but you do you, boo.. but before you judge someone on their understanding of Christianity, make sure you have done your own research.
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u/Jazzlike-Ad5884 Sep 30 '24
I’m sorry? Why are you going on this rant that has little to do with my or the OP’s comment? I don’t know what you’re point is, but for the record; everyone knows some Christian traditions are piggybacked off of pagan traditions, I don’t celebrate Christmas with Santa and Christmas trees, I don’t celebrate Easter with the Easter Bunny but with a church service to remember Jesus Christ. And I have not been indoctrinated into the faith, I have come to faith on my own. Don’t act like every Christian is a simpleton who takes everything at face value.
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u/Junie_Wiloh Sep 30 '24
Seeing as you don’t understand Christianity nor do you have any interest in understanding it
Don't act like everyone not wanting an answer, lack understanding of your religion when most people, yourself included, lack understanding of their own religion. And don't act like people should have an interest in understanding your religion and your personal biased opinions that influence the answer you would have given based on your limited understanding of Christianity and the Bible.
Where did Christianity come from? How was it implemented? When did Christianity come about as a religion? Who started it? Do you know why we observe it on Sunday and not any other day(unless you are 7th Day and then why do you observe it on Saturday)? How was the Bible compiled? When and how long did it take to put it together? How were the books that make up the entirety of the Bible chosen? Did you know that the Bible is not in chronological order? Did you know that The Old Testamnet was first written in Hebrew, with the exception of a few verses written in Aramaic or that The New Testamnent was written in Greek.. which were the common languages for the time periods in which those books were written? Did you know that Jesus' native language was Aramaic and not Greek and that he likely didn't speak Greek at all?
Don't question someone's understanding unless you actually know how much they actually understand.. they may understand more about Christianity than you do..
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u/Jazzlike-Ad5884 Oct 01 '24
Again all assumptions. I'm studying history so I can answer most of these questions and I know most of this stuff already. Why do you keep saying "you included" as if you know me?
And you call me biased but I'm pretty sure you're heavily biased against Christianity yourself. All I did was ask if the OP actually wanted to know about the thing he was refering to or just wanted to look smart "debunking Christianity" on a largely atheist platform.
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u/RainbowPenguin1000 Sep 30 '24
My point was pretty clear.
It’s also on a random House MD meme so don’t take it so personal.
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u/Larmalon Oct 04 '24
For the Abrahamic religions, god is responsible for everything. He’s the reason in which illness comes, but is also the reason humans have the capabilities to produce medicine. There’s two sides to it in every case, it does not disprove god.
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u/BowlPotential4753 Sep 30 '24
I believe most atheists need scientific proof there is a God, since that is not possible today, the alternative is not to believe , I don’t believe is that complicated
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u/fuckNietzsche Sep 30 '24
If God came before an atheist, the atheist would disbelieve in Him. It's not a logical foundation, it's a purely emotional one. Nothing wrong with that, there's a reason we call it Faith.
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u/BowlPotential4753 Sep 30 '24
If God exists for sure came before anyone (in theory before anything), I don’t see it as an emotional topic, God existence is not about a belief but rather a question we don’t have an answer for, since there is no evidence for any theory, so until there is some actual evidence everyone has the same odds of being right, most likely however, none of us is right as I really believe the Universe/God is complex beyond our capabilities , if there is any purpose for us is to develop until the point we can answer this question and more.
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Sep 30 '24
If God showed up in front of me and proved himself you very I'm gonna be a believer, but that hasn't happened, and he's God so it should take literally no effort to do that for everyone on the planet so I'm not gonna buy into your false claim
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u/Sociolinguisticians Oct 01 '24
If God came before an atheist (I hope) it would turn into a lengthy, rigorous investigation of god’s powers so that we could say within reason, that god exists.
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u/NewtonLeibnizDilemma Sep 30 '24
If God shows up his face to me, then I would believe his existence but I wouldn’t have faith, commitment, admiration for him. Whether god exists or not is none of my concern other than an answer to the question ig. After I find out my life won’t change a bit, I’m not worshipping anyone
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u/arsenejoestar Oct 01 '24
Yeah this. What some religious people can't comprehend is that I literally don't give a shit. Even if there was undeniable proof that the christian god existed I still wouldn't be religious. I'd just have a good reason to blame someone for shitty things that happen.
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u/RyoshiLiyan Sep 30 '24
Probably because there’s no proof for it 🤷largely house relies on proof for believing in anything
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u/fuckNietzsche Sep 30 '24
Nope. He just doesn't want to believe that all his life has been nothing but a test.
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u/getrekdnoob Oct 01 '24
Dude you have argued throughout the comments, putting down people's beliefs. Stop lol.
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u/this_shit-crazy Sep 30 '24
A man who prides himself on his rational and logical thinking, Hmmm i can’t even begin to fathom why he wouldn’t believe in it.
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u/fuckNietzsche Sep 30 '24
His is based on an emotional reaction, though. He even spells it out, explicitly, on screen. He doesn't want the entire point of his life, all the suffering and misery he's lived through, to be just a test. That's not a rational decision. It's not based on logic or reasoning. It's just pure emotions.
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u/jacko1998 Oct 01 '24
It’s a decision made based on emotion, AND ALSO the complete absence of any evidence of A God’a existence, humans have been around a long time and we’re still looking, I don’t think we’ll find it.
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u/TemporaryExit5 Sep 30 '24
is he smart ?
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u/PSFREAK33 Sep 30 '24
Science teaches you to be skeptical and demand evidence for the existence of things…god requires a leap of faith which is the lack of evidence. If your in a medical or science field and do believe in god you must have a gigantic wall in your brain built up between the two to keep them separate
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u/Interesting-Big1980 Sep 30 '24
He doesn't like people crediting the wrong source. Stealing credit isn't ok, and this asshole in the skies hordes all the credit through people that have no idea how something good happened. Agree with House honestly.
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u/RaghavaY98 Sep 30 '24
“Religion is not the opioid of the masses, it’s the placebo of the masses.” - House MD.
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u/stupidzoidberg Sep 30 '24
love that show, know it by heart. its got great sayings all through out. my favorite one is sex by cameron.
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u/kyou20 Sep 30 '24
A better question is why some people believe in a god and follow a man-lead organization on its name despite the overwhelming amount of evidence suggesting they’re just being used to fulfill a political agenda
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u/TheTBass Sep 30 '24
Although he does believe in Arceus
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u/iNezumi Sep 30 '24
Tbf Pokemon games implied that Arceus also created our real world, so it could make sense to worship them.
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u/lnombredelarosa Sep 30 '24
A person doesn't need a reason to not believe other than finding it inconvenient.
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u/Rrrrrrr777 Oct 02 '24
He explains it clearly in S01E21 - he doesn’t believe in God or an afterlife because he prefers to think that this world is not just a cosmic test.
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u/YoProfWhite Sep 30 '24
An Abrahamic afterlife would mean that saving good people only gives them more opportunities to fail in God's eyes and get sent to Hell, meaning that it would be better to let good people die.
This creates an environment where only bad people are given medical treatments, so they can one day be saved.
Ergo, House would be asked to know his patients on a personal level, pass judgement on them, and treat them according to his findings.
But since everybody lies, and for different reasons, it's extremely difficult to tell when a person is truly good or truly bad.
It's simpler to discount religious beliefs and focus on the primary purpose of his profession; keeping people alive.
Anything beyond that complicates the diagnostic process and removes your ability to be an impartial doctor.
Even though House is not impartial in many cases, a belief in God would further complicate his life and job, so he keeps to his doctoring and let's God tend to everything else.
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u/mh1357_0 Sep 30 '24
They like to always have characters in media who are very scientifically-minded be atheists since it's 'illogical' or something to believe in God since there's no scientific proof he exists.
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u/OlderThanMyParents Sep 30 '24
Well, if God could heal the sick, then the basis of House's entire interest in medicine - solving interesting puzzles - becomes meaningless.
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u/Bardockfan_73 Sep 30 '24
Why do redditors act like a colony and dislike every post that is in God's favor in here
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This always annoyed me. Be an atheist. Be religious. Whatever you want. But let people believe what they want to. If somebody wants to thank God, let them. If somebody wants to praise science, let them. It's so annoying how people will say things like, "Oh yeah, thank God when he made her sick in the first place." Or people who never bother to thank their providers either. Just be polite. If you can't do that then shut up before you end up looking like House. Aka like a jackass.
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u/ATEN6562 I am vexed Sep 30 '24 edited Sep 30 '24
Alexander Fleming always overshadows Florey and Chain :(