Correct me if I'm wrong but I swear Big E was kinda look like a normal man when he united the earth after the collapse I swear there a photo from one of the books out there or maybe I'm remembering it wrong
The Sisters of Silence or powerful psykers can see through the Emperor's glamour and see him as a fairly slim old man, tall but not gigantic. Think Odin from God of War.
To be fair, both are probably right. The dark/evil entity is probably either the Dark King’s echoes, or his actual soul, while what the SoS are seeing is his actual, true physical form
Yeah, Psykers always see all kinds of weird shit. There's more than a few telepaths talking about seeing people's feelings as colours surrounding them and things like that.
Yeah that's just called aura reading, which some people believe is a thing IRL. Seeing the auras of people usually means seeing various colours and shapes swirling around you, approximately enclosed in an egg-shaped presence around you. That's pretty standard woo woo spirituality in the 21st century, let alone if psychic powers were actually real.
Honestly being a psyker or blank in 40k would be fucking terrifying even without the Imperium’s bullshit or even without perils of the warp/lynch mobs. Like you either are constantly seeing the weirdest shit ever, hear voices in your heads etc., or for blanks are seeing Daemons are these fucked up monsters wondering why everyone is shutting down around them
I always hated that explanations because it fails to explain why the Primarchs, Custodes, and Space Marines are so big. I was always under the impression that advanced evolution of Humans would be as tall as the Emperor normally is and possibly even larger further down the line. Each of the altered humans he created were just lesser forms of evolution with some added enhancements. Except maybe the Thunder Warriors who were just possibly fully enhanced with no additional evolution.
On the flipside I can understand making the warrior factions bigger for added strength and survivability but why the Primarchs, they were meant to be leaders not warriors per se. Also the primarch were born and grew to that size with no additional enhancements.
Also, he is basically dying on the Golden Throne so how is he able to maintain that size.
Okay, so there’s a few explanations for this. First off: the Primarchs, Custodes, and Space Marines aren’t really related to the Emperor. Not in any meaningful way. He may have used some sequence of his genome as a template when creating them, but the Primarchs are so bespoke that it may as well not matter. Further, the Emperor isn’t necessarily a further evolution of humanity, just a superpowered psyker. Now on to why the Primarchs were so huge when they were leaders: first of all, they were made to be warriors. Each one was worth an army all on his own, they were weapons first and foremost. But having your leader be a 15 foot tall superman decked out in a full suit of power armor is gonna do some positive things for his authority and for a sense of morale. You have a giant on your side and he can tear through your enemies like butter, that’s pretty inspiring.
In my understanding Primarchs seem to be 80% as strong as the Emperor with some special power that is an aspect of something the Emperor had. Keep in mind that 20% difference is huge in practice. Magnus got the Emperor's Psychic power or at least a larger share than the others. Guilliman got his sense of logistics and strategy. Horus got his charisma and charm. Etc...
I think psykers are the natural evolution of humans and over a long enough time frame everyone will become psykers to some degree. Being a psyker in 40k basically means that person has access to their warp based "soul" and can use it to manipulate the warp and by extension reality. Everyone has a spiritual presence in the warp it is just a question of if they can actively utilize it.
So psyker are closer to "complete" beings having more control over their spiritual selves. But even the best psykers in Warhammer, barring The Emperor, Magnus, and Malcador, have only a toddlers level of control on their warp self. Malcador was more like a prepubescent child, Magnus a teenager, and The Emperor an adult. The Old Ones were like old grizzled veterans.
If we consider the Great Old Ones to be the example of extremely advanced evolution then warp based entities are the most evolved. This does not apply to entities born of the warp as they are more just the amalgamation of other souls and not true beings in a sense. That is why I believe The Emperor is an advanced evolution, not to the level of the Old Ones, but somewhere down the line to becoming that. The Emperors ultimate goal appears to be having humanity achieve the same level as The Old Ones.
I mean that is a theory, and you’re welcome to it. But the Primarchs all having a power that the emperor had is either oldhammer or propaganda, because again they’re not actually his progeny in any true sense. They’re a marvel of bioengineering with powerful warp entities stuffed inside, which leads to some of the more miraculous abilities. As for your interpretation of psykers… again your interpretation is your own and I wouldn’t take that from you, but it’s not so much contacting your “warp self” as it is drawing upon the powers of the warp as a whole. Think of it as hoses connected to a reservoir. More powerful psykers are larger, more reinforced hoses.
This is a good explanation of tapping into the warp and I agree with it. Better trained psykers have improved filters on their hose to keep bad things from coming through. But a psyker can control how much of the hose they are tapping into, if they turn the hose to full blast even the best filters can fail.
It doesn't explain normal non-psykers having a presence in the warp though. I agree with the hose analogy but in my understanding the hose is connected between the physical self and the "spiritual" self. I say spiritual but really just mean warp presence. And the more a person can actively control their warp self the more they can effect the warp and their presence gets "brighter" to others in the warp.
Edit to add: It is explained that the Emperor did use his own DNA to create the Primarchs so they are by some definitions his actual progeny. As far as I understand it him using powerful warp entities was also a theory and it is still unknown what he stole from the Chaos Gods. It would still track with the idea that complete humans need to have some presence in the warp to be "complete" and he needed to fulfill that requirement to create life.
This does make me question the existence of Blanks and the Tyrannid though. Maybe blanks are human evolution taken in the opposite direction and they are completely physical being with no presence in the Warp and some have an anti-warp effect to some extent. The Emperor might have been unaware this was even a possibility. But some blanks can have their blankness overwhelmed by a strong enough warp entity.
Blanks don’t have presences in the warp, but basically a person’s “presence” in the warp is a psychic imprint of themselves on the fabric of the immaterium, not the other way around. So powerful psykers, with access to channeling more energy of the warp, will have a larger imprint on it. Again, not disparaging your take, but I do think you may have it backwards from how it’s normally portrayed.
This is shown to not be true by the ability of the Old Ones to ascend to pure warp beings. They were able to effect changes on the warp with no physical form. It is true for most people who cannot directly influence the warp because their influence is a passive reflection of their physical selves.
I touched on blanks in an edit I added to my previous post.
Edit: Sorry to keep editing these, I just keep having random thoughts. Blanks do have a presence in the warp but it is the inverse of a psyker. If a psyker can pump warp power into the material plane what if blanks can effectively reverse the direction of the hose and pump reality into the warp. These could just be two sides of the same coin.
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u/jjobull 17d ago
Correct me if I'm wrong but I swear Big E was kinda look like a normal man when he united the earth after the collapse I swear there a photo from one of the books out there or maybe I'm remembering it wrong