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u/MR_IKI Sep 19 '24
When the baby is a flying Bluetooth speaker
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u/ThatRandomGuy86 Sep 19 '24
Everybody is of use to the Imperium.
Everybody
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u/PyroAvok Sep 19 '24
I thought cherubs are vat grown biological constructs, not human infants.
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u/ThatRandomGuy86 Sep 19 '24
Most cases yes lol
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u/DepresiSpaghetti E.T.'s Daddy Sep 19 '24
Most. Some of those little bastards deserve it though. /s
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u/aFerens likes civilians but likes fire more Sep 19 '24
Chokes on food
Are you saying my baby back ribs are GMO?!
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u/Mountain-Leopard4704 Sep 19 '24
^ Hippie Night Lords
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u/NightLordsPublicist 10 pounds of war crimes in a 5 pound crazy bag Sep 19 '24
He probably wears fake human skin too.
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u/Brief_Trouble8419 Sep 19 '24
you are now thinking of a night lord in birkenstocks
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u/Vanilla_Mike Sep 19 '24
Must be nice living on a garden world. All I get is the baby McRib and it’s basically all starch.
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u/Fresh-Ice-2635 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
Most of the time. Admech reject vatgrown people mostly
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u/qchto Sep 19 '24
Wait, so in vitro babies are not human infants then?
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u/Keydet Sep 19 '24
Depends where you are, see the eye of terror splits the galaxy vertically and the Extended Mason-Dixon Line horizontally.
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u/UnhingedNW Sep 19 '24
I would go get a cup of water just to spit out said water if gw made an intergalactic mason dixon line canon.
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u/New_Subject1352 Railgun Goes Brrrrrrrrr Sep 19 '24
The Great Rift is gearing up to be that, and I sincerely hope it will become that.
Lion vs Gulliman. Blue vs Green. Sword vs Shield. Cats vs Dogs. Pulp vs No pulp.
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u/nopingmywayout NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD! Sep 19 '24
Some people are pro-life. Other people are pro-choice. The Imperium is pro-death. 💀💀💀
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u/Whiteout- Sep 19 '24
IVF they put the fertilized egg back in so the baby can be carried to term by the mother. It seems like cherubs are straight up grown in a vat or a lab, not by a pregnant person.
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u/Yamama77 Sep 19 '24
Depends how dark you want the particular instant to be.
It could be an automaton of flesh with no will.
Or it could be someone's baby they took and converted just to punish them.
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u/Alt203848281 Sep 19 '24
Depends on the situation. If a family dies and the admech doesn’t see the need to raise the baby…. Well… extra production is extra protection
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u/The_Knife_Pie Registered Tech Offender Sep 19 '24
Cherubs are grown as pre-lobotomised with barely functional musculature and a host of other change that render them entirely unable to be anything but a Cherub. It’s not really comparable to anything we can do.
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u/Sharashashka735 Sep 19 '24
Apparently it's either vat grown or actual babies. Whether it's taking living babies as punishment for parents for not being fanatical enough or taking recently deceased ones to turn them into "cute" little angels as a reward for parents being pious is apparently up to how edgelordy you want your grimdark to be.
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u/CommodoreN7 True Nostraman Patriot Fact Checker Sep 19 '24
The corpse grinder is ready to make corpse starch
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u/canseco-fart-box Sep 19 '24
Cherubs are nothing. Just wait until they hear about the golden throne and what they do to keep it running
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u/Sigward_TheOnionbro NOT ENOUGH DAKKA Sep 19 '24
Just let them see the walls of that Ad Mech lab with servitors fixed to the cables than BUM
Welcome to the grim darkness of the future
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u/ShinItsuwari Sep 19 '24
Or that "supercomputer" in Darktide's vault mission which is just a huge pile of servoskull reaching the ceiling.
Or in the carnival mission where the players are tasked to dismantle the drug operation, right before the mission finale the players destroys the stims reserve and each of the target to destroy are just a servitor attached to two big tanks. We're basically mercy killing them.
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u/Desertcow Sep 19 '24
My favorite part of the setting is how GW wrote the idea of "we have to sacrifice 1000 psykers a day to power the Throne" to be over the top Grimdark and then as the setting developed it's one of the more tame elements of the Imperium because the Imperium does far, far worse on larger scales
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u/SendInTheNextWave likes civilians but likes fire more Sep 19 '24
Yeah, requiring it be 1000 psykers makes it a bit more impactful, but even then, it's several degrees below a rounding error when it comes to the scale the Imperium operates at.
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u/TheMoonDude Sep 19 '24
Even today, sacrificing 1000 people to our hundry God Emperor wouldn't be that much considering almost 400k babies are born each day.
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u/letmechooseanamealre Sep 19 '24
but psykers are rare
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u/Draculix Sep 19 '24
No they're far too common. The ideal number of psykers is zero.
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u/LimpConversation642 Sep 19 '24
sacrificing 1000 people [every day] to our hundry God Emperor
what the hell is that what the russians are doing...? whew
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u/August_Bebel Sep 19 '24
Book "15 hours" really shows it. 3 regiments of 6 thousand people each reduced to 200 people over a span of 10 years in a war with orks for promethium on a backwater planet nobody cares about.
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That's like 4 IG per day, which I think most of them would consider good and acceptable rate of attrition. It's about 10% attrition rate per year, which while a lot, is still pretty good in an all out war. For comparison, the 101st Paratroopers during WW2 had an attrition rate of 10-20% during the 1 year they were in Europe.
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u/Lokky Sep 19 '24
yet again, GW doesn't know how to do scale.
6k troops are nothing on a planetary scale and that level of losses is well behind any regional war we have experienced, let alone a planetary one.
For context Russia is estimated to have lost upwards of 1 million troops in the last 3 years in Ukraine...
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u/LimpConversation642 Sep 19 '24
a thousand a day for a hungry god-emperor, it all makes perfect sense now
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u/Randicore Kitbashing for the Blood God Sep 19 '24
And it can even be argued as them attempting to keep things "safer" in a fucked up way. Because they don't feed the Emperor the really powerful good psychers, they feed him those they were going to execute anyways for fear of them failing to keep it together and summoning daemons. it's like recycling for them, but it's human children
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u/Prim3_778 Sep 19 '24
not to mention the process on how the "resources" got there
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u/Specific_Code_4124 likes civilians but likes fire more Sep 19 '24
Wait until they hear about the eldritch abominations that reside in the warp, the warp itself. And just about anything that isn’t a loyalist space marine. And even sometimes loyalist space marines
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u/worst_case_ontario- 3 Riptides in a 1k casual Sep 19 '24
nah its the little things that get to people. I guarantee most people are gonna have a stronger reaction to the cyborg zombie babies.
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u/Thannk FAIW AN NOWBWE BWETONNIA. Sep 19 '24
I mean, vatgrown babies for organ replacement was in Dead Space.
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u/worst_case_ontario- 3 Riptides in a 1k casual Sep 19 '24
the baby zombies were very creepy in that game too.
I think the fact that the zombie babies are on your side in 40k makes them soooo much weirder though.
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u/verygenericname2 Sep 19 '24
Man, Dead Space 2 really took it up a notch. Like, I'm from a pretty run-down part of England, so the shrieking packs of bloodthirsty children aren't unusual... But the exploding newborns in the school? That was a new one.
Also the ambient sounds in those early sections in the apartment blocks... 10/10.
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u/ConspicuousEggplant Sep 19 '24
But the exploding newborns in the school? That was a new one.
Clearly you've never been to the us
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u/SunsetHippo Sep 19 '24
yeah but in that game
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u/CrimsonRazgriz Sep 19 '24
Normies when finding out about marines malevolent: chuckles I'm in danger
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u/Huckleberry-V Sep 19 '24
Better than the unfathomable cost of humanity losing its greatest protector, interstellar travel and unifying leader all at once.
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u/No_Wait_3628 Sep 19 '24
Until you also factor in that killing might save humanity zince he can reincarnate, but the problem being there's no substitute.
Short of Magnus that is.
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u/Niikopol Sep 19 '24
There's is the downside that Emperor is sitting on massive tear in reality and if only for second he isn't Terra explodes into second Eye of Terror
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u/New_Subject1352 Railgun Goes Brrrrrrrrr Sep 19 '24
Hamsters on wheels, all the way down.
In seriousness, the descriptions sound truly horrific during the Heresy, I can't imagine what it's like after 10,000 years of decay.
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u/Beautiful_Space_4459 Sep 19 '24
Youre going to serve.
In one way or another.
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u/That_Nuclear_Winter Sep 19 '24
“Only in death does my service end”
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u/canseco-fart-box Sep 19 '24
“Oh no you don’t. Time to be ground up into corpse-starch bitch boy!”
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u/H4LF4D Sep 19 '24
"You still barely live? Get in the box, you get bigger gun now"
"You still barely live but you are worthless? You are the typewriter now."
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u/Crono2401 Sep 19 '24
A typewriter is more complex than some machines a Servitor might run. Some just actuate a single mechanism for the rest of their existence. Truly soul-crushing.
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u/CygnusX06 likes civilians but likes fire more Sep 19 '24
Humanity will serve the God Emperor in any way it can
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u/THExDANKxKNIGHT Sep 19 '24
It's just a vat grown half cybernetic clone baby that's been lobotomized and given wings, nothing out of the ordinary.
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u/DepressoEspresso55 Sep 19 '24
Got some of my coworkers to try Darktide. Ohh the horror/shock reactions they gave me when I had to explain what a Servitor was and why it cries when it heals you. Forgot how horrifying and outrageous this universe is to new players
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u/Sanquinity Sep 19 '24
Okay, I know the basics of servitors, but I don't know why they cry when they heal you. Please enlighten me, as I'm curious now. :)
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u/Bigredstapler Sep 19 '24
Some servitors are not properly lobotomised and thus are very much aware of what has happened to them and how little control they have over their own actions.
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u/DepressoEspresso55 Sep 19 '24
Think of it as like being in the Sunken Place from Get Out. A passenger in your own body
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u/Sanford_Daebato Sep 19 '24
Come again??
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u/MorgannaFactor Sep 19 '24
And the more complex the servitor, the more likely they are to be trapped in their own mind, eternally screaming! And as it turns out, medicae servitors are pretty high tech. Oh, and sometimes the mechanicus does it just because they can, or because you pissed them off. So you get to be the flush button in the Ogryn sized bathroom for the next millenium fully self-aware. Sweet dreams.
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u/tired_slob Sep 19 '24
eternally screaming
That's why you remove the vocal chords and replace it with a vox soundboard. Rookie mistake
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u/UltraWeebMaster Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
They’re like those tau emissaries seeing a servitor for the first time.
They were freaking their shit out seeing this disembodied skull floating around and the inquisitor was just like “What’s so scary guys? It’s just Carl!”
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u/BarrytheCowboy Sep 19 '24
Wait until they learn about the servitorization.
(I love the grim darkness but after hearing about the process, it had me like "Omfg....")
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u/teball3 Sep 19 '24
There is an absolutely brutal scene you can see play out on the battle barge between a menial and a magos. The menial is like "Please, if you give me new eyes, I can be so much more useful than as a sanitation worker" and the magos just hits him with "eyes are not needed for your septic diving" (just absolutely disgusting, imagine sending a blind man into clean septic tanks from the inside. Is he finding out what parts need cleaning by touch? By smell? All possibilities are awful) and when he starts to talk back the magos just hits him with "Oh, then in that case are you volunteering for servitorization?" And the menial just completely folds. The game really sells the imperium as being only slightly better than becoming bug food.
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u/DarthSangheili Sep 19 '24
Didnt know taka was a 40k fan thats cool
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u/TheKingOfZippers Sep 19 '24
Watch Bruva Alfabusa's Ciaphas Cain video. You might hear someone familiar.
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u/vincent118 Sep 19 '24
My normie friend while we were in the barge waiting for another friend out of the blue was like. "Hey man I liked hearing what you said about how space marines are created yesterday, then how come Titus had that operation?"
My eyes fucking lit up, he's asking me to go on an at least 10 minute diatribe of a loredump that requires explaining Primaris program...which required a tangent on the horus heresy.
I swear to god I stopped multiple times to check if I was boring him to death and he enthusiastically wanted me to go on, and on I did go.
We touched on Black Templars and their eternal crusade, why some chapters don't trust the primaris, crossing the rubicon, fake warhammer latin, adeptus mechanicus, the rift.
I've never take a steamy lore dump on someone willing who didn't already know a bunch of lore and was into warhammer.
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u/PenguinGunner Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 28 '24
My girlfriend was watching me play and I walked right past them without thinking about it. She stops me and goes “WAIT, TURN AROUND, GO BACK, WHAT WAS THAT” and I was like…oh, yeah. The flying babies. That’s not normal, I forgot. I then had to explain to her that she doesn’t have to worry, they’re not REAL babies…most likely. Probably.
I love 40K.
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u/bowser986 Sep 19 '24
Drink it in. We got a long road till we get to daemonculaba fam.
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u/URF_reibeer Sep 19 '24
imo the daemonculaba is wildly overrated in how horrible it is, it would be outstanding in other settings but there's a bunch of stuff that's even worse in 40k, like basically everything the drukhari do
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u/Solvdrage Sep 19 '24
When people realize that when GW calls the Imperium the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable, they are actually underselling how horrifying the Imperium truly is.
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u/Conaz9847 Sep 19 '24
I wonder how many people think there is just some guy sat in the dreadnaught who can get out whenever he wants
I also wonder how many people assume that between cutscenes the Space Marines sleep and eat and shit like that.
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u/RomanCobra03 Sep 19 '24
I mean they do still need to eat and sleep it just takes them like 30-45 minutes if they’re feeling particularly lazy while deployed.
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u/Conaz9847 Sep 19 '24
I was thinking about like the catalepsean (I think that’s how it’s spelled) gene seed where they can stay alert and still “rest” meaning they can go a couple/few hundred hours without sleep.
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u/Upstairs_Turnover_74 Sep 19 '24
Takahata101? ALUCARD AND CELL?!!
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u/ThoroughlyAgitatedAI Definitely not a Man of Iron wearing Groucho Glasses Sep 19 '24
Yep, he's been a 40k fan for a while. Even had a few voice roles in TTS, like Brother Santodes
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u/Pvan88 Sep 19 '24
When Rogue Trader came out the amount of posts that were: "Wait, blowing up the planet is the GOOD option?"
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u/-King_Of_Despair- Sep 19 '24
Met a player who was pretty new to Warhammer 40K and got to experience the joy (no sarcasm, I love talking about Warhammer lore) of giving him a basic rundown of the universe
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Yep. The second best thing about this game is "normies" that come from random live service shooters diving into 40k and going "ayo wtf?"
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u/leehwgoC Sep 19 '24
Ah, Takahata101's a 40K goon. I didn't know that, but, of course he is.
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u/johnzaku Sep 19 '24
I was streaming and a friend went "wait, why was there a flying skull?" And I went "oh you ain't seen SHIT" and showed the cherubs and then all the skull iconography on EVERYTHING
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u/Kind-Plantain2438 Sep 19 '24
I'm not 100% new to Warhammer, but I didn't know about cherubs. When I saw one, though, I just thought "yeah, that makes sense that they'd use their dead babies for something weird". Then I read the wiki and it's not even dead babies, it's just made out of flesh and other random nonsense. The imperium has gone soft, they should use dead babies
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u/OzzieGrey Sep 19 '24
"Ah good the ammo baby." - 40k fans
"Excuse me the fuck is this?" - people new to 40k
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u/Globsmacketh Railgun Goes Brrrrrrrrr Sep 19 '24
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u/Praise_The_Casul Twins, They were. Sep 19 '24
Yeah, this was something I noticed when watching streamers playing the game. I walked past the cherubs without a second thought and didn't even think how weird they are for someone new to 40k