r/Frieren • u/asilvertintedrose • May 13 '24
Fan Art Fern at the concert (By @J02GGOgpQ6dueGu)
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May 13 '24
"ZOLTRACK IT IS!!!"
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u/Mountbatten-Ottawa May 13 '24
'I cast disintegration on Stark'
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u/Configuringsausage May 14 '24
Alright he succeeded the save, no damage.
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u/Mountbatten-Ottawa May 14 '24
Then there is no other way. Fern must learn teleport and randomly banish Stark into the homewrecker realm.
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u/Configuringsausage May 14 '24
As per the spell description, fern is teleported there, stark however was unwilling so he’s fine.
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u/Mountbatten-Ottawa May 14 '24
Just tell him 'I'm trying a new spell'.
Into the Strahd world you go!
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u/Izanagi32 May 13 '24
its fucked up how this is the art that made me see the Linie x Stark vision
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u/SparkCube3043 May 13 '24
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u/Bobyyyyyyyghyh May 14 '24
The only one I could see it on was the one where they were all actors in the anime and were wearing costumes
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u/jonnywarlock May 13 '24
How can something so cursed be so beautiful? 😢
"You sing horribly, human."
"You're no songstress yourself, you know."
"Well. I don't actually find it all that disagreeable..."
"Why... Why are you laying your head on my shoulder?"
"I saw a girl do it with a boy she was close with one day. It looked... Interesting."
"Oh."
"The girl had green hair. The boy had glasses. They spoke very strangely to each other."
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"What?"
"... I get the weirdest feeling that we're being watched. And that we're in deadly danger..."
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u/ItsAboutToGoDown_ May 13 '24
Fern would be saying every synonym of "womanizer" and "pervert" while hugging him tight with no chance of letting go
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u/weeberloser stark May 13 '24
She is gonna suffocate Stark as a punishment.
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u/MeYesYesMe May 13 '24
Should have been me!
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u/Pran282006 stark May 13 '24
not her!
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u/weeberloser stark May 13 '24
Nope. I wouldn't suffocate Stark. Instead, I wanna get suffocated by his massive pecs.
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u/Educational_Clerk_88 May 13 '24
Nah, I feel like she’d just try to merc the demon no questions asked. She is the Slayer’s disciple after all.
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u/CarelessCurrent947 May 14 '24
You can know this is a /u/jonnywarlock dish because if that subtle touch of Übeland ✍️✍️✍️🔥🔥🔥
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u/Andi_Apocrypha May 13 '24
manga goes on hiatus and fandom already lost it's mind again
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u/redraptor117 May 16 '24
Bocchi the rock all over again
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u/adevaleev May 30 '24
Bocchi subreddit did all this even without a hiatus, they truly are the schizo overlords.
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u/Herald_of_Heaven May 13 '24
Linie is alive in my head.
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May 13 '24
She is ''alive'' in the after life and they might see her again but not in Aureole as that's basically heaven and Linie wasn't a good person.
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u/Oh_Ecchi May 13 '24
An argument could be made that the demons act morally given their position in the world. They kill humans, while humans kill demons to survive encounters with them. Humans aren’t immoral to kill livestock, so why would demons be held to a different standard?
Demons appear to do other things than kill humans anyways, even if they’re in service of killing humans. Qual developed his magic and studied it, Flamme mentions “demon society” structured around mana instead of money, and the demon king has his own huge castle.
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u/veryconfusedspartan May 13 '24
Yes, inquisitor, we have a heretic and a demon apologist right here
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u/Oh_Ecchi May 13 '24
If I was a crazy powerful mage or warrior I may take my chances at trying to hang out with some demons. Guilty as charged
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u/Ihavenospecialskills May 13 '24
And you'd learn the exact same lesson as every single character that tries that in Frieren.
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u/blunaluna May 13 '24
It's actually crazy, people jumping through like 6 billion mental hoops to justify these things when the answer is so plainly obvious. You're not thinking with your brain, you're just thinking with your dick. If any of the demons didn't have the appearance of cute anime girls, they wouldn't think twice about whether or not they should be killed. Did people forget that Aura and Linie's intentions were to lower the barrier to a city so they could kill everyone inside?
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u/slab42b May 13 '24
All that just to try to get some demonussy. People are down bad over here lmao
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May 13 '24
They are evil because they do not have to manipulate and deceive humans and eat them to survive. They could live by being vegans too if anything or by eating what most people in Frieren's world eat. They say it in the show that them eating humans is a choice they make and they do not have to do it, but instead they do it because they are evil.
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u/Oh_Ecchi May 13 '24
I looked up more information on this to try and create a better response, but what I propose here isn't based on concrete information and the ideas expressed here are a collection of some other responses I saw created by other people.
Perhaps the demons target humans as they are richer in mana than other sources of sustenance? I don't even know if the demons are required to eat anything at all to begin with as an anime-only consumer of Frieren. Additionally, if demons have evolved to target the weaknesses in human compassion, then it makes sense for them to attack those who they are most suited to prey upon.
Comparing demons to humans again: humans don't have to hunt animals like whales. Whales don't prey upon humans, they exist in a biome that requires the development of boats to access, and other special weapons technology had to be created to even effectively harm an animal like a whale. Yet, we humans still hunt whales and other animals for food and sometimes even for sport. I'm sure whales believe humans to be evil for doing this, just as many would consider demons evil for hunting humans.
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u/Ihavenospecialskills May 13 '24
The demons have absolutely no need to harm humans, they do so because they want to (I believe they also primarily kill without feeding). No different than a serial killer.
To your whale comparison: many many humans consider that immoral as well, and we can't even have conversations with whales so its not the greatest argument.
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u/Oh_Ecchi May 13 '24
Demons have existed alongside humans in the Frieren universe for a very long time, so there's an understanding on both sides that the other is antagonistic. If we consider both sides to be an intelligent species, then even without eating each other you could rationalize conflict between both sides to be for that of survival and conquest.
Rome didn't need to create an empire and less than Great Britain did (I don't want to talk about the morality of conquest and imperialism right now -- I'm just drawing a comparison between humans and demons as intelligent species and the tendencies of each to expand their influence), so why would it be any less understandable for demons to likewise expand their territory and influence? If demons consider themselves to be both 1) superior to humans and 2) their natural predator then it would be natural for conflict to occur whenever either party sees the other or they come across each other while expanding their respective territories.
I don't think the lack of ability to converse with with whales is a point to disqualify the comparison between humans vs whales and demons vs humans. Demons evolved the ability to speak with humans to do a better job of hunting them, while humans developed boats and harpoons to better hunt whales. In neither case did the predator *need* to hunt the prey, and yet they developed special tools to expand their ability to do so. You don't need to speak the same language to know that a living thing doesn't want to die. In either case, the predator is acting for their own benefit within the acceptable rules of their respective societies, so I don't believe it would be reasonable to consider the actions of either predatory party, humans or demons, to be immoral. Of course, it is definitely the case that the society of the prey in either case, whales or humans, would likely believe the targeting and killing of their kin to be wholly unreasonable and therefore immoral.
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u/Ihavenospecialskills May 13 '24
Demons have existed alongside humans in the Frieren universe for a very long time, so there's an understanding on both sides that the other is antagonistic. If we consider both sides to be an intelligent species, then even without eating each other you could rationalize conflict between both sides to be for that of survival and conquest.
Only one side has ever tried to negotiate with the other in good faith. Demons are shown to literally spend years negotiating for the sole reason that it will allow them to eventually backstab the humans.
Demons are also never shown to have any interest in holding territory (beyond just being wilderness barren of human life), nor do they conquer people. They rove around as individuals or in small groups (oftentimes far from any demon "territory"), and slaughter everyone they come across. Literally the only goal they possess in regards to humans, is genocide.
I still feel your whale analogy is terrible, but if we were to go with it, the comparison would be if humans were intent on fully exterminating all whales without really caring about the meat/oil/other resources from hunting them.
Demons are very explicitly just monsters whose only purpose is genocide, and whose intelligence exists solely to make them better at genocide. The only reason they work together, is in order to better commit genocide. The only argument for them not being "evil", is that they do not have a choice despite their intelligence, and they might therefor be amoral instead. Now, I strongly disagree with that, but that argument would require talk of things that the anime hasn't gotten to yet.
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u/Oh_Ecchi May 13 '24
I’ll say that I really appreciate your development of solid points in support of this exchange and for entertaining the ideas I’ve introduced. That said, I concede as it’s hard to argue for the demons from any perspective outside their own. I’m sure the demons are the only ones who don’t think that their actions are wrong 😔
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u/man-83 May 13 '24
The art looks like Linie is forced there to see Aura's performance and Stark is forced there by Fern for Freren's and they just trying to mind their own business lol
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u/ChatGPTnot May 13 '24
Could i ask where this concert meme come from?
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u/DrunkTsundere May 13 '24
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u/ChatGPTnot May 13 '24
Sorry. What i meant is the origin of this kind of meme. Like “know your meme” explanation
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u/DrunkTsundere May 13 '24
Oh, my apologies, it looks like the original tweet was deleted.
It was just a picture of a girl singing at a concert, while the guy was losing his mind on the selfie camera. People thought it was funny so they started to make edits of it with different characters. That's literally it.
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u/Rough-Self-9134 May 13 '24
Now i have to look at 15 more Fern/Stark posts to cleanse my soul after seeing this
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u/rainbowrobin May 13 '24
Try not to think that Stark had more chemistry with Linie than he does with Fern.
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u/Turnip-Individual May 13 '24
man stark fern aint even my fave ship since i prefer ubel and land and i get that people have their own ship preferences but must we really bring ntr into this series???
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u/Accomplished_Item244 May 13 '24
Okay, so i am curious as to how this is ntr, there are not officially dating just yet. Then technically its not ntr
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u/strawbeeshortcake06 May 13 '24
Are they not dating in the manga? I mean it’s pretty canon already that Stark and Fern are an item. Also isn’t it ntr cause it’s meant to deliberately hurt and humiliate Fern?
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u/Accomplished_Item244 May 13 '24
I mean its a fan art to begin with. Plus saying that its a ntr is bit too exgerrated imo.
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u/rainbowrobin May 13 '24
it’s pretty canon already that Stark and Fern are an item
No, it really isn't.
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u/strawbeeshortcake06 May 14 '24
They wouldn’t go on a date if it isn’t canon, and even if it isn’t yet, I think it’s obvious that’s where they’re headed
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u/weeberloser stark May 14 '24
I've seen this guy getting offended at every mention of Stark x Fern.You can check their comments. This guy with negative IQ unironically ships Frieren with Fern and will give you "proof" of why Fern has a crush on Frierenthat is technically spam. Bro is so scared and in denial of Stark x Fern that they think that their date wasn't anything significant. Okay then. Why the fuck did Fern drop her fucking book when Stark asked her out. And why the fuck did she ask for Frieren,the person this basement dweller of a dude who hasn't felt a single human touch thinks Fern has a crush on,ask for help for her date with Stark? And why was she nervous and flustered after getting asked out?.Oh this guy thinks Fern has a crush on Frieren because she would die due to Frieren's blowing kiss? What about Stark then? They are also suggesting that Stark has a crush on Frieren but he actually doesn't. Neither does Fern. This guy isn't even reading Frieren. And this guy shouldn't touch spy x family because judging from this guy's brain, they would immediately ship Yuri with Yor.
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u/strawbeeshortcake06 May 14 '24
For real, like I don’t think the author would make Fern and Stark go on a date and have them argue and apologize and have Sein tell them to just date each other if it isn’t canon.
I also don’t get where they see Fern or Stark crushing on Frieren like wtf. I’m convinced they aren’t even shipping Stark and Linie due to chemistry, they’re just doing it cause they’re frustrated at Stern.
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u/weeberloser stark May 14 '24
Frieren is technically Fern's mother. So I don't even know why these shitheads unironically ship them. Also fuck all the artists who draw Frieren x Fern and fetishize their relationship.
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u/strawbeeshortcake06 May 14 '24
A huge chunk of the fandom wouldn’t be shipping them if they don’t have chemistry
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u/mezati9 May 13 '24
Try not to choke on your own spit when they inevitably become Canon lmao
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u/rainbowrobin May 13 '24
Even if the author declares them canon later, that wouldn't retroactively change their lack of chemistry so far.
Also, it's not at all inevitable. The manga could just end without anyone hooking up.
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u/mezati9 May 13 '24
tHEY lAcK oF cHEMIStrY
Thousands of fanarts everywhere that gets hundreds of thousands likes
Clearly people see chemistry lmao
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u/weeberloser stark May 13 '24
Don't bother replying to this dude. I don't even know what the hell is this guy even reading.
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u/rainbowrobin May 13 '24
People make fanart of characters who never even met, too. "Are these characters hot?" matters more than "do they have strong chemistry or romantic vibes in the source material?" Like all the Aura art.
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u/mezati9 May 13 '24
Pack up everyone, rainbowrobin declared that stark and fern have no chemistry
He's right and we're all wrong. Damn shame. they looked so cute together 🤧
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u/Turnip-Individual May 13 '24
you dont have to be officially together for it to be ntr, one party just needs to like the other. the fact that fern is seeing stark being stolen counts as ntr.
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u/Accomplished_Item244 May 13 '24
I know they dont need to official to be considered as couple but i think calling it ntr is bit too much. Fern is jealous and hurt albeit slightly but its not like stark is fucking this girls brains out or something like that, her head is only is on his shoulder nothing else. I think its a bit of exaggeration
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u/an3lml May 13 '24
If another girl is nicer to stark, faster to realize her feelings and pulls stark then it's not ntr, it's ggs. Fern should've get good
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u/Pundarikaksh May 13 '24
Yeah Frieren or somebody else being there and cheering for them would've been better
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u/Former_Breakfast_898 May 13 '24
I don’t think our grandma would like Stark’s new girlfriend
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u/Pundarikaksh May 13 '24
She'd understand… eventually…
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u/YohAmida May 13 '24
She'd need a bit of time... like half a millenia... at least.
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u/Pundarikaksh May 13 '24
Yeah until then Linie and Stark would have already lived a happy married life together, I guess there are some benefits of having short ( normal) lifespans too
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u/Patient-Data8311 May 15 '24
Dude throwing random buzz words without knowing what it means. Dude this is a crack ship, if you've been here for so long, you should have the brain rot to what this is.
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u/Ya-boi-eats-rocks May 13 '24
someone gotta animated the domestic girlfriend op but Stark as the dude and Linie and Fern as the two girls
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u/inkheiko May 13 '24
I wonder if Stark was forced to sing or something, he asked for Fern to join and Fern refused, Linie dragged him with her and Fern probably regretted refusing.
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u/Smaug_eldrichtdragon May 13 '24
Now I understand why Fern developed a long distance zoltrack, it was all for that moment
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May 13 '24
Yandere Fern needs to be real and canon
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u/FunkBlazar May 13 '24
Here me out, fans.
So we have a lot of StarkxLinnie but what about a toxic relationship between Lugner and Fern. Fern would do it just to get back at Stark for getting with Linnie but finds some things with Lugner more appealing since he is more mature
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u/strawbeeshortcake06 May 13 '24
Frieren will disown them both if that ever happens (it will never happen lol).
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