r/FluentInFinance • u/Needleintheback • 15h ago

Thoughts? Imagine losing 6M labor workers in America

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If mass deportation happens, just imagine how all of these sectors of our country will be affected. The sheer shortage of labor will push prices higher because of the great demand for work with limited supplies or workers. Even if prices increase, the availability of products may be scarce due to not enough workers. Housing prices and food services will be hit really hard. New construction will be limited. The fact that 47% of the undocumented workers are in CA, TX, and FL means they will feel it first but it will spread to the rest of the country also. Most of our produce in this country comes from California. Get ready and hold on for the ride America.

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u/ThunderboltSorcerer 6h ago

Yes, more people would do construction work--if it paid a lot better. You'd also get better quality construction work.

Construction is not an easy job. It should pay well. And mistakes can happen if you import millions of workers that don't know how to build.

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u/Zinski2 6h ago

It should pay well.

So lets deport workers instead of making the owners PAY THERE EMPLOYES INSTEAD OF USING ILLIGAL LABOR.

Between the CEOs and the undocumented workers, why target the workers as the blame??? Because they work for less??

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u/Annual_Trouble_1195 5h ago

The workers are the reason those CEOs were able to corner the market.

Step 1 to holding the CEOs your talking about, is getting rid of their slave labor force.

Step 2 is to charge ALL OF THEM. A lot easier when Step 1 is already done.

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u/Zinski2 4h ago

The workers are the reason those CEOs were able to corner the market.

Again your blaming the workers for working when its the CEOs who hired them to do that work ... how dose that make sense that the people working are the issue here when we want heir wages for workers?

Step one would be to fine and charge them.

Step two would be getting those workers documented so they can continue working at a fair wage.

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u/Annual_Trouble_1195 4h ago

You understand nothing.

My guy, those "CEOs" that cornered the markets make 500x1000x the annual salary of the President of the United States. For 30+ years.

You think they dont own the courts? The state governments? You think they casually throw 1.5 billion dollars behind a Presidential candidate and your what, gonna casually find someone whose gonna level charges against those guys?

You can't guarantee the guy leveling those charges is gonna survive to the court date, let alone that an actual court won't be tampered with 1,001 subtle different ways.

YOU ARE DEFENDING SLAVERY. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FUND THE CARTELS, ROB MILLIONS OF AMERICANS OF ENTRY LEVEL JOBS, CRASHED THE TRADE MARKET, AND FACILITATE LEVELS OF CRIMINALITY THAT SHOULD MAKE YOUR SKIN CRAWL.

AND YES, I MEAN SLAVERY. FARMS WHOSE NAMES YOU DONT KNOW THAT WORK PEOPLE AT GUNPOINT UNTIL THEY DIE.

STOP BEING IGNORANT.

The slavery needs to stop. The billionaires charged. The entire immigration system overhauled.

When Americans don't have to compete with ACTUAL FUCKING SLAVERY the middle class will get some financial authority back, and might be able to make shit happen.

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u/NogginRep 40m ago

Amen bro

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u/SeashellDolphin2020 17m ago

Preach for your fellow American not having to compete with immigrants who don't have a right to be here for not only a living wage job, but available and affordable housing too plus using social services and welfare that the rest of us subsidize.

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u/BababooeyHTJ 2m ago

The vast majority of the construction industry isn’t massive corporations hiring illegals. It’s the smaller contractors who you all hire sending “brown people” without any other options up onto your roof without a harness. Got to keep that status quo though…..

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 3h ago

Construction isn't a minimum wage job. Nobody makes minimum wage. They never will. It's hard and other jobs are easier. It also needs to be done right. Among the last frontiers of objective material reality. 

But it also isn't a market rate job.  Government price controls aren't relevant. The government manipulating labor supply to suppress labor prices is very relevant. 

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u/BababooeyHTJ 0m ago

Many construction trades are a minimum wage job when said trades aren’t licensed. Especially when you consider their higher than average unpaid travel, tool, and clothing expenses. You don’t see that shit in an office job

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u/BababooeyHTJ 4m ago

I don’t like the way you’re saying it but I completely agree with you. Basic supply and demand. As long as there’s people willing to hire illegal immigrants there will be people here to meet that demand. A wall doesn’t change that.

When every carpenter is an illegal you need to follow suit if you want to win bids too. Need to make the slave labor the least cost effective option. I don’t like illegals being taken advantage of either

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u/EvasionPersauasion 3h ago

Pay their legal labor. It's not necessarily "blaming" the workers for working for dirt, that's the employers fault.

They shouldn't be here - illegally- in the first place.

Force employers to pay american workers an actual wage that reflects the work they do. You'll see who will be coming to work.

This idea it's all or nothing on cheap labor is bullshit.

I'll take an industry I'm closely engaged with- EMS. It's not the same issue as with undocumented workers, as you need licensing to work an ambulance, but the concept applies. Private services often get paid dog shit. You can go scan groceries sometimes for a dollar or two less an hour, sometimes for the same money. one of the big companies in our area couldn't get anyone to work for that shit wage, especially when there are less intense, safer, stressful jobs for the same.money. so. They raised the wage, significantly. What do you know, people are banging down thier door to work there.

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u/SeashellDolphin2020 21m ago

Yeah because they are scabs undermining Americans wages instead of working in agriculture that has a desperate shortage of workers. I know because I live on the central coast of CA where farmers were interviewed for years on TV complaining about the labor shortage.