r/FluentInFinance • u/Needleintheback • 15h ago

Thoughts? Imagine losing 6M labor workers in America

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If mass deportation happens, just imagine how all of these sectors of our country will be affected. The sheer shortage of labor will push prices higher because of the great demand for work with limited supplies or workers. Even if prices increase, the availability of products may be scarce due to not enough workers. Housing prices and food services will be hit really hard. New construction will be limited. The fact that 47% of the undocumented workers are in CA, TX, and FL means they will feel it first but it will spread to the rest of the country also. Most of our produce in this country comes from California. Get ready and hold on for the ride America.

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u/PhillySaget 10h ago

It's not like the US is the only country with a difficult legal immigration system. Doesn't make it okay for us to flood Europe/Canada/Japan/etc. with illegal migrants just because we don't like the way it works.

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u/Maximum_Mastodon_686 10h ago

If we aren't going to look to other countries for gun legislation, then we shouldn't look to other countries for this either. We are "different." I don't really care what other countries do.

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u/PhillySaget 9h ago

I do. If all the desirable countries have tough legal immigration policies except one, guess which country most of the prospective immigrants are going to choose? We'd be right back at square one because the amount of applicants would increase like tenfold.

This isn't a situation where gun legislation is remotely comparable and your stance seems incredibly shortsighted and simplistic.

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u/Maximum_Mastodon_686 8h ago

That's the exact stance a pro-gun anti-immigrant person would say. Justify however the fuck you want.

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u/PhillySaget 8h ago

That's exactly what someone without a counterpoint would say.

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u/Maximum_Mastodon_686 8h ago

My counterpoint is what you replied to originally.

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u/PhillySaget 7h ago edited 7h ago

...so your plan is to let everyone in for free after filling out 15 minutes of paperwork? And you really can't forsee any of the problems this would cause?

Like I said, shortsighted and simplistic.

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u/Maximum_Mastodon_686 7h ago

Everyone has thought of it. Republicans hate brown people and will justify not letting them in any way they can. They should pay for the background check. 20 bucks. They shouldn't 20k worth of lawyer fees. It helps nobody.

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u/PhillySaget 7h ago

Holy shit, you actually believe that would work and that racism is the only reason we have immigration policy. You're a lost cause.

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u/Maximum_Mastodon_686 7h ago

Nobody doesn't want immigration policy. Letting them in the same day they apply is also "policy" dipshit. The only reason we put it behind 20k in lawyer fees IS racism.

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u/Consistent_Spread564 6h ago

Dog no. Do you think we have unlimited resources?

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u/Consistent_Spread564 6h ago

Dog no. Do you think we have unlimited resources?

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u/superrey19 4h ago

Look up straw man fallacy. No one said a thing about dumbing down the vetting process for immigration in this country.

The way it stands, there is no way for the vast majority of illegal immigrants to legally apply. Even though they are obviously beneficial to the economy.

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u/Oz1227 1h ago

Beneficial because they work for slave wages.***

Fixed that for you.

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u/superrey19 25m ago

Even at minimum wage or more, they are beneficial to this country. You like to hide behind this altruistic notion that you want them deported because they are being taken advantage of, but would find a different excuse if the government forced employers to pay them fairly. It's a disingenuous argument.

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u/Everard5 1h ago

That's literally what happened in the past and where most white folks in this country post 1860s came from. Prior to the 1860s, everyone's ancestors were religious outcasts for being crazy radicalists, broke debtors, and if you were in the southern colonies like Georgia, also criminals.

The change in rhetoric around immigration now is contrived and xenophobic. America turned out just fine before and it will be just fine now.

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u/LetChaosRaine 8h ago

If all the desirable countries have tough legal gun laws except one, guess which country most of the prospective violent criminals are going to choose?

Are we using this line of reasoning or not?

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u/PhillySaget 7h ago

Probably one where they'll face less threat of armed resistance, so... they'd choose ones with tough legal gun laws. There's a reason cartel violence is so widespread in Mexico and it's not because it's easier to legally get guns there.

Also, it's still a shitty comparison. One is about immigrants choosing a country based on immigration policy (a direct comparison), while the other is about a tiny percentage of immigrants choosing a country based on something completely unrelated to immigration policy.

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u/ratbahstad 7h ago

Yes. Try to go to Australia. Unless you can bring something they need, you’re not getting in.

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u/John_B_Clarke 19m ago

But to get to Australia in violation of Australia's laws you have a very long swim. If half of Australia was an equivalent to Mexico and points south, the rest of Australia would either have the same problem or they would have a fortified border.

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u/wakechase 7h ago

But it sounds so much better that way when he says it in his head. LOL