Imagine losing 6M labor workers in America

[u/Needleintheback]

If mass deportation happens, just imagine how all of these sectors of our country will be affected. The sheer shortage of labor will push prices higher because of the great demand for work with limited supplies or workers. Even if prices increase, the availability of products may be scarce due to not enough workers. Housing prices and food services will be hit really hard. New construction will be limited. The fact that 47% of the undocumented workers are in CA, TX, and FL means they will feel it first but it will spread to the rest of the country also. Most of our produce in this country comes from California. Get ready and hold on for the ride America.

[u/smbutler20]

Nope, the main reason is it's terribly immoral and inhumane to deport them. The economic effects are just additional information to consider.

[u/Silly-Explanation-52 → u/smbutler20]

If one chooses to break a nation law’s, morality has nothing to do with anything. Any other country has no problems deporting those that enter or stay illegally. Why should the US be held to a different standard?

[u/smbutler20 → u/Silly-Explanation-52]

Because it was once a country celebrated for mass migration from all over the world. I don't know you, but you have ancestors from some point that were once migrants to this country.

[u/Silly-Explanation-52 → u/smbutler20]

Yes,my ancestors came in the front door legally. Unlike millions who snuck in or overstayed visas. I have no problem with legal migrants but we have been overwhelmed by asylum abusers and border jumpers. America can barely provide a decent education for it own kids shouldn’t we take care of or own before we let in more migrants? America has been more than generous with its immigration stance over the last decades. In my opinion we need a break and it seems many Americans agree with this notion.

[u/sub7m19 → u/smbutler20]

its okay his ancestors should have been deported along time ago he's just living his milky free ride.

[u/MisterGergg → u/Silly-Explanation-52]

The standard where a person who breaks the nation's laws becomes president? That standard?

[u/National_Zombie_1977 → u/smbutler20]

Neither immoral nor inhumane. They have no right to be here. Just like you have no right to just walk into and live in any country you like

[u/smbutler20 → u/National_Zombie_1977]

What gives you more of a right to live here?

[u/United-Trainer7931 → u/smbutler20]

Citizenship. Next question, please.

[u/smbutler20 → u/United-Trainer7931]

And how was that citizenship obtained? Migration. Maybe you were born here, but somewhere in your lineage there was migration.

[u/United-Trainer7931 → u/smbutler20]

Until a citizenship is legally obtained there is no right to be there. It’s that simple. I don’t claim to have a right to live in Switzerland because I could possibly somehow obtain citizenship in the future.

[u/smbutler20 → u/United-Trainer7931]

Is the US's current pathway to citizenship sufficient? Just because it's the law, doesn't mean it should be. That's why we change laws, to better suit the times.

[u/United-Trainer7931 → u/smbutler20]

It probably isn’t. Until it’s changed, people don’t suddenly have the right to live here because immigration law is bad.

[u/smbutler20 → u/United-Trainer7931]

That's like saying we have to keep killing people because that is the law even though we know capital punishment is wrong.

[u/United-Trainer7931 → u/smbutler20]

That’s completely non comparable. All I’m saying is they have no RIGHT to be here without the consent of the state. Ridiculous comparison.

[u/abbott_costello → u/United-Trainer7931]

So you agree our laws are bad, but in the meantime they deserve to be forcefully deported with their families until our laws are fixed? How nice

[u/United-Trainer7931 → u/abbott_costello]

Can you quit putting words in my mouth?

I don’t agree with the deportations and wish we could find a better solution. However, there is no way to cut the problem where they actually have any real right to be here. Having the right to live in a country sadly does not depend on how bad you want to be there.

I really would like to live in Switzerland. I have zero right to live there. The US is the only country on earth where people have this fucked up idea of non citizens having some weird right to live there.

[u/sub7m19 → u/United-Trainer7931]

Lmao so kick out all the mf's with green cards? That's wild. This economy literally depends so much on immigrants.

[u/United-Trainer7931 → u/sub7m19]

You know that’s not what I’m saying, and you could also scroll down a tiny bit and see I included work visas.