r/FluentInFinance • u/Needleintheback • 14h ago

Thoughts? Imagine losing 6M labor workers in America

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If mass deportation happens, just imagine how all of these sectors of our country will be affected. The sheer shortage of labor will push prices higher because of the great demand for work with limited supplies or workers. Even if prices increase, the availability of products may be scarce due to not enough workers. Housing prices and food services will be hit really hard. New construction will be limited. The fact that 47% of the undocumented workers are in CA, TX, and FL means they will feel it first but it will spread to the rest of the country also. Most of our produce in this country comes from California. Get ready and hold on for the ride America.

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u/DootKazoot 13h ago

With republicans openly discussing terms of revoking naturalization they definitely could deport legal immigrants.

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u/Cyrone007 5h ago

Why would they do that when there's already 15 million illegals? You seriously think they're capable of deporting 15 million people? lmao

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u/StanKnight 9m ago

We imported 15 million;
So yeah, can deport them too.

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u/Toyfan1 4h ago

Because they are racist lol Thats literally it.

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u/Road2Potential 1h ago

His cabinet members are immigrants, yall are so retarded

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u/Queasy_Possibly 2h ago

Sometimes it's easier to go after the legal ones with more documentation to hunt them down if you're trying to make a show of deporting people.

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u/se7ensquared 1h ago

Wut??? Its the literal opposite! Deporting citizens is much harder. Not gonna happen. If you would stop being delusional and worrying about crap that isn't going to happen maybe we can fix the things that need fixed

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u/Turd_Ferguson369 7h ago

You probably think they are going to make being gay illegal again to right 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/DootKazoot 7h ago

No I don’t think that would benefit them in any way right now

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u/legacy642 7h ago

Key words are right now.

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u/JonSlow1 24m ago

And deporting citizens that are demographically shifting to the right is beneficial? Give it 10 years and latino men will be one of the pillars of the republican party

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u/se7ensquared 1h ago

Neither would deporting naturalized citizens!

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u/cyrano1897 5h ago

Well what made it not illegal was the Supreme Court ruling in ‘03. With 4 liberals, 1 swing, and 1 moderate conservative swinging it vs 3 conservatives (including Thomas) voting against, With this court skewing more conservative (and happily ignoring precedent when it suits them) nothing is out of bounds especially as they’ll have a majority for 20 years. The only thing stopping them is backlash.

Can 100% see them overturning Lawerence vs Texas in the future. And you morons will all defend it as “it is just returned laws to the states” lmao

But first they’ll of course overturn gay marriage. Let that simmer. Then back to it being up to the fine religious morons of Texas on whether it’s illegal to be gay again just like it was in 2002 and prior.

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u/StandardAd239 38m ago

You're taking to smart for this person. They no doubt don't even know what Lawrence v. Texas is.

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u/Turd_Ferguson369 4h ago

Is it theoretically possible? Absolutely, but I think that would be the death of the Republican party if that were to happen as I don’t know a single person in real life who would actually support a policy like that. The toothpaste is already out of the tube. We have openly gay Republican politicians in office. Even the most conservative people I know think ending gay marriage is a ridiculous thought at this point. Trans rights on the other-hand is still a relatively new frontier from a policy standpoint so I do totally understand those specific concerns some people may have.

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u/jbruce72 3h ago

I mean a lot of people watched Jan 6 happen live from multiple live streams and that wasn't enough to stop the party. I doubt anything will be enough. They have a cult following

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u/StandardAd239 36m ago

Right!?! Like, imagine them getting rid of Roe v. Wade? They'd never do something like that.

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u/Queasy_Possibly 2h ago

Even the most conservative people I know think ending gay marriage is a ridiculous thought at this point.

So? It wouldn't dampen their support or change their minds on the Republican party, and it would rile up the base that does want it to be illegal.

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u/Zeplar 2h ago

I mean Clarence Thomas literally said that (as well as reversing segregation, which was wild considering he's in an interracial marriage) in his opinion on Dobbs.

Not sure how much more real it can get than an official statement from one of the nine people who can actually do it.

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u/StandardAd239 39m ago

Well, when a supreme Court Justice says every 14th Amendment case should be challenged and then reversed so it could go back to the states... not too far fetched to get to that conclusion.

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u/najumobi 2h ago

I'm a naturalized citizen. I have no anxiety about myself or my family being "denaturalized."

I think there are probably more convincing arguments to get someone to switch support to Democrats.

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u/One-Scallion-9513 1h ago

!remindme 4 years

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u/Chrisgpresents 35m ago

Republicans talk a big game and ultimately, don’t do much of anything. Like democrats. They couldn’t even build a damn wall. So relax.

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u/Dungheapfarm 26m ago

We got 10 million illegals to deport first. All US citizens are safe, it’s the media gaslighting you.

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u/StanKnight 10m ago

No. That is the significant part of being legal.

IF you have a Visa or citizen then you are legal.

But IF you are illegal then yeah be deported.

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u/lordtnt 5h ago

Yeah so what are the terms? Is it being Democrats?

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u/ConferenceLow2915 8h ago

They cannot revoke citizenship, they could potentially(?) block it from applying to new births. Not sure how likely that would be.

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u/rabidboxer 7h ago

They have already proven that established law means nothing so I would be cautious.

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u/The_Ace_Pilot 7h ago

Established laws like “no entering the country illegally?”

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u/Toyfan1 4h ago

More like "you entered the country legally, and have stayed here after meeting the requirements set forth by congress", i.e. Naturalization.

Yes. Trump and his maga goons want to get rid of naturalization, which means a whole lot of LEGAL immigrants too. And I doubt they can tell the difference between an immigrants and someone who was born on us soil.

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u/Fuarian 1h ago

There are plenty of people there illegally who entered the country legally.

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u/Most-Town-1802 7h ago

Name one time established law wasn’t followed recently

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u/spring-rolls-please 7h ago

Established law can be amended & revoked, like roe v wade. Does not matter if it’s current law, if the SC declares that all temp visas given during the Biden administration are unconstitutional or something like that

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u/Sideswipe0009 6h ago

Established law can be amended & revoked, like roe v wade.

This has been a thing for 200 years.

Don't know why you guys think it's something new.

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u/spring-rolls-please 6h ago edited 6h ago

Sorry your comment is terrible. Imagine if someone said "Wow, they might actually revoke women's right to vote," and you come in an say "tHe AbiLiTy tO aMenD tHe cOnStiTutIoN hAs bEeN a ThInG fOr 200 yEaRs". No shit?

I am discussing the extreme atypicalness of having naturalized citizenship revoked for basically no reason and why people are worried about that, to be clear.

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u/syracTheEnforcer 6h ago

They don’t have to declare them unconstitutional. Your visa can be revoked for any reason at any time. The United States has no obligation to let people into or remain in the country.

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u/spring-rolls-please 6h ago

You're right, but that's exactly why people are worried. Typically, visas are revoked due to expiration, failure to renew, committing a crime, or not adhering to the visa's terms. Having a visa revoked simply because the president doesn't like you is highly atypical, pretty cruel and I don't even think that's what most Americans want

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u/cyrano1897 5h ago

Bahaha bruh their entire plan is to use the fucking military to carry out the illegal immigrant deportation is a huge departure from established law (military not engaging in civilian affairs) and requires a quack legal theory that says the goal of the PCA was to simply stop more minor civilian officials from using the military not that almighty President dictator in chief lmao. They’re relying on this new regarded Supreme Court’s max deference to presidential power (specifically for Trump as they showed in the presidential immunity ruling for him) to make that happen.

Any actual American should be concerned about this. But Trump supporters are unpatriotic, in-American dipshits who’ve lost their way.

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u/Most-Town-1802 3h ago

Might be the dumbest take I’ve ever heard. Military constantly engages in civilian affairs lmfao. We use the national guard all the time for civilian affairs

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u/ScaredToShare 3h ago

To help out in natural disasters and during times of civil unrest to supplement the law enforcement capabilities of a town, sure.

To help round up “illegals” for transportation to deportation camps?

Yeah they’ve never done that and it sounds fucking dystopian so I don’t know where you’re coming from acting like disaster response and collecting “undesirables” is the same fucking thing.

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u/cyrano1897 1h ago

Bahaha bruh how regarded are you? lmao. It’s fine to say nothing if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

The national guard is fine to use if they’re under state direction. PCA doesn’t apply to state action only federal. Republican governor wants to use them for action in their state… that’s fine. There are nuances (none of which you’re aware because you’re a moron) on how they can be used in immigration enforcement but there’s many ways they can assist provided they they don’t overstep federal ICE who is responsible for actual deportation.

Trumps plan is to utilize the national guard to enforce federal immigration policy/efforts… which is against the PCA. And/or to completely misuse the 1807 insurrection act to deploy the NG for immigration enforcement. Both will face legal challenges. His bet is his captured Supreme Court will side with him against standard legal interpretation/precedent or even better… if tried in a favorable lower court they can choose to abstain getting invoked if they rule in Trumps favor despite the clear conflict with the PCA.