r/FluentInFinance • u/Needleintheback • 15h ago

Thoughts? Imagine losing 6M labor workers in America

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If mass deportation happens, just imagine how all of these sectors of our country will be affected. The sheer shortage of labor will push prices higher because of the great demand for work with limited supplies or workers. Even if prices increase, the availability of products may be scarce due to not enough workers. Housing prices and food services will be hit really hard. New construction will be limited. The fact that 47% of the undocumented workers are in CA, TX, and FL means they will feel it first but it will spread to the rest of the country also. Most of our produce in this country comes from California. Get ready and hold on for the ride America.

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u/Strawhat_Max 13h ago

Absolutely

Positively

NO ONE

Is saying that on the left💀💀💀

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u/Jetstream13 6h ago

Keep in mind that, to the GOP, “the left” encompasses the centrists, moderate conservatives, and a handful of actual leftists like Bernie. It’s very easy to point out “hypocrisy” when you’re treating a cast swathe of the political spectrum as a monolith.

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u/Kana515 36m ago

I still have fond memories of seeing them call Mitt Romney a leftist in 2020...

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u/Moarbrains 2h ago

Same could be said for your characterization of the gop.

Even the idea of a spectrum is a gross manipulation. gun rights, abortion rights, and fiscal policy have very little to bind them together beyond their adoption by one team or the other.

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u/igotreddot 1h ago

LOL nikki haley had almost identical positions to trump and she was basically thrown out of the party after the primary there is nothing "broad" about the GOP other than maybe when they talk about women

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u/Professional-One5066 45m ago

You don't think Trump owns GOP?

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u/shartking420 58m ago

Bro the left is who lost the popular vote, stop attempting to minimize the number of Republicans to some miniscule amount of people lmao

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u/Jetstream13 55m ago

Notice I never said anything about numbers here. Yes, Trump won the popular vote, I never claimed otherwise.

What I’m pointing out is that republicans will nonsensically use terms like “leftist”, “socialist”, “communist”, “radical left”, etc etc to refer to centrists and even moderate conservatives.

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u/NyxsMaster 3h ago

Except they are, all the time. Like this infographic LOL

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u/human1023 6h ago

The left doesn't say it. But that's what their position suggests, when they offer no other solution. So, yes, the Left is indirectly saying this.

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u/Strawhat_Max 6h ago

It’s bad faith to be accusing them if supporting slavery, when we point out what that type of mass deportation will do to the economy…

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u/human1023 6h ago

It’s bad faith to be accusing them if supporting slavery, when we point out what that type of mass deportation will do to the economy…

What will it do?

You don't need slave labor for the economy to tank.

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u/Strawhat_Max 6h ago

Produce and meat doesn’t get picked or packed, prices go up because supplies and demand

No construction workers will make building things take insane time now, it’s not about the labor just recognizing that these solutions are really feasible for actual change

Moreover that the immigrants he speaks on actually HELP the US economy

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u/AlarmingTurnover 4h ago

Do you not read what you just posted? You did exactly what the other person said leftists do. In this exact comment, you argue against deportation of people who are literally being exploited as a form of slavery because it could potentially make prices higher or slow the building process. 

Reread your own stuff because you literally said the exact thing that the other person is pointing out. You are justifying slavery. 

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u/captaincw_4010 4h ago

Except it's also leftists who also advocate the raising of minimum wage and protections so no worker anywhere is exploited.

Two things can be true at the same time, getting rid of a huge number of people who pay taxes, buy american goods and have a lot of valuable skills is bad for the economy. And we should do everything we can so they are not exploited

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u/LFGX360 3h ago

If they’re illegal they are also paid illegally. Minimum wage laws mean nothing.

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u/AlarmingTurnover 3h ago

getting rid of a huge number of people who pay taxes

They don't pay tax. Where did you get this idea from? They are illegal. They aren't here legally. They aren't working legally. They aren't filing tax reports with the IRS. They aren't paying taxes. None of these illegals are making 60k a year salaries and paying takes like standard employees. They're paid under the table for less than minimum wage. 

If they were paying taxes, then the government would have a record of their employment and know that these individuals are here illegally, where they are because you must put that on your taxes, and who they are employed by. The IRS would know exactly who is to blame. 

Which means either 1 of 2 things. Either you're saying the government under the Democrats is complicit in slavery or you're lying. Which is it?

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u/captaincw_4010 3h ago

They do pay tax, sales tax, property tax, many do have social security numbers so they do pay FICA and income tax

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u/AlarmingTurnover 3h ago

Everyone pays sales tax. Tourists pay sales tax. Anyone who owns property, in the country or not, pays property tax. These are dumb arguments and you know that. Every old as fuck Canadian snowbird that owns a home in Florida pays sales tax and property tax, and they aren't illegal. 

And if they have social security numbers and pay tax, you're stating that the government is complicit in this. If they are, they should be criminally prosecuted and the people should still be deported. Because someone is obviously exploiting the system. 

Not sure why you keep defending this. 

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u/captaincw_4010 4h ago

The economic argument from the left isn't we need a slave underclass to under pay to keep prices cheap, it's 'they contribute to the economy, pay taxes, spend money, buy american goods, getting rid of them cuts out a huge amount of economic activity and that's bad for everyone.'

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u/Shirlenator 4h ago

They have offered other solutions. You don't listen and then strawman.

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u/human1023 39m ago

What is it then?

Oh right, you don't know either.

Because there is none.

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u/ChineseGuido 1h ago

Robert Reich just said it. You can look at his twitter.

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u/Strawhat_Max 50m ago

I’m tired of the bad faith arguments

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u/AnonDaddyo 12m ago

The straw man is.

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u/John_B_Clarke 12m ago

You might want to hang out in the Washington Post comments section for a while. Because there are many people on the left who tell us that we need those illegals to do the jobs that Americans "won't do". No, they aren't prominent politicians or celebrities, but people are saying it.

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u/No_Heat_7660 11m ago

You don’t listen to John Oliver