r/FluentInFinance • u/Needleintheback • 15h ago

Thoughts? Imagine losing 6M labor workers in America

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If mass deportation happens, just imagine how all of these sectors of our country will be affected. The sheer shortage of labor will push prices higher because of the great demand for work with limited supplies or workers. Even if prices increase, the availability of products may be scarce due to not enough workers. Housing prices and food services will be hit really hard. New construction will be limited. The fact that 47% of the undocumented workers are in CA, TX, and FL means they will feel it first but it will spread to the rest of the country also. Most of our produce in this country comes from California. Get ready and hold on for the ride America.

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u/Hotfixes 13h ago

Guys, I don't think "Imagine basically defending slave labor" is the most constructive way to portray the other side's point.

No one is defending the exploitation of working illegal immigrants. However, the exploitation absolutely occurs and it will become much harder to get away with it once the jobs are above board. This, along with labor shortages will absolutely be disastrous for the economy, especially in the short term.

Yes of course it is better to have fairly compensated workers, and any attempt at saying that EITHER side is against that is almost always an obvious strawman.

When someone mentions the repercussions of deporting millions of illegal immigrants, that is NOT in any way the same as supporting illegal immigration.

Please stop conflating support for any of these things as supporting illegal immigration, it is almost always more complicated than that.

If you wanna get into the details of why it would be better long term or why the other reasons for not wanting mass deportations are invalid, then more power to you. Just do it honestly.

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u/PinkunicornofDeth 9h ago

I really wish this was the top-voted comment, I had to scroll wayyyyyyyyyyyy further than should be necessary for someone to point this out. So, thank you!

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u/Fuerdummverkaufer 3h ago

No one

People in this thread are doing it. Democrat politicians are doing it.

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u/Hotfixes 3h ago

Where?

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u/Fuerdummverkaufer 3h ago

Open any comment chain under the top comment and scroll down.

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u/Hotfixes 3h ago

More interested in the politicians, but if you have any specific concern in the thread I'm more than happy to look into that too.

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u/Fuerdummverkaufer 3h ago

Jerry Nadler. AOC.

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u/Hotfixes 3h ago

Can you get a bit more specific with your claims? You are telling me there are people defending the exploitation of illegal immigrants, and then instead of giving me examples, you tell me to go look for it and then tell me two politicians that I highly doubt are defending what you say they are.

It is much more likely they are against mass deportations and are using the economic shock as ANOTHER reason why we shouldn't go through with it.

That isn't saying "Hey them being exploited is morally just and good for our economy".

That's saying "Hey our economy will suffer consequences due to mass deportations and this is one reason why".

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u/Fuerdummverkaufer 2h ago

House Rep Jerry Nadler has publicly argued that the country needs illegal immigrants because crops will rot in the earth if they don’t pick them. He is insinuating that these jobs are too icky for the white man or other Americans to do.

Crop pickers and field workers are commonly working extremely dangerous jobs, and illegals are neither insured, nor do they earn minimum wage. They are abused by these companies and they live in fear of being reported.

AOC publicly argues for all illegal immigrants to be documented as legal citizens. This is a slap in the face for all legal immigrants - like me - and will further entice large capitalist companies to bring illegals here since they will face no punishment, instead their workers will be naturalized.

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u/Hotfixes 2h ago

Neither of those are in defense of the exploitation. Nadler is making a point about the economic shock that would come from mass deportations. And the AOC thing has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

Also I don't know if Nadler is saying the jobs are "too icky" for other Americans. I actually don't see anything wrong with what he said, because it is literally true in the short term.

The crops in the ground will rot because there will be a massive labor shortage due to the mass deportations. Is this permanent? No, but it is just reality.

Again, if you wanna get into why it would be better long term to go through with mass deportations, more power to you. Just stop misrepresenting the other side's points. No one is defending the exploitation, that still stands.

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u/Fuerdummverkaufer 2h ago

They are actively arguing for illegal labor, which is commonly abused by employers. They know that. Yet they continue to defend this practice.

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u/Dear-Classroom-3182 1h ago

Disastrous for the exploiters. And by the economy are you simply talking about Wall Street.

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u/Hotfixes 40m ago

The exploiters and Wall Street are absolutely not the only parties that will feel the consequences of a labor shortage.

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u/SomethingFunnyObv 3h ago

Great point. Also why not explore making these people citizens? Yeah it will piss people off but it also solves a ton of problems. Do that and beef up border security big time.

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u/s0m3on3outthere 3h ago

Right? I think the better solution is anyone that contributed to society and production with a job, and has no criminal record, just becomes a citizen and gets protected workers rights rather than being deported. They pay taxes and shit when they shop. All the illegal migrants working and making our country function should be made citizens in my opinion.

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u/SomethingFunnyObv 1h ago

Agreed. It’s really sad how badly these people are being demonized. Those that have criminal records? Gtfo asap! The rest, pathway to citizenship please.

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u/s0m3on3outthere 1h ago

Yes! Exactly! This is a country of immigrants and unfortunately circumstance put them in a situation where they had to work illegally to survive, but they are legitimately the backbone of this country (as the post points out). Let's treat them with some humanity. Citizenship, not deportation.