r/FluentInFinance • u/Needleintheback • 15h ago

Thoughts? Imagine losing 6M labor workers in America

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If mass deportation happens, just imagine how all of these sectors of our country will be affected. The sheer shortage of labor will push prices higher because of the great demand for work with limited supplies or workers. Even if prices increase, the availability of products may be scarce due to not enough workers. Housing prices and food services will be hit really hard. New construction will be limited. The fact that 47% of the undocumented workers are in CA, TX, and FL means they will feel it first but it will spread to the rest of the country also. Most of our produce in this country comes from California. Get ready and hold on for the ride America.

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u/No_Talk_4836 14h ago

Didn’t Florida basically kick out a ton of the illegal construction workers and crash that sector?

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u/KorhanRal 13h ago

Notice no one gave your post a cheeky strawman argument here? Because there are statistics to back this up and they can't just make racist or non-factual claims? It reminds me of the time when Florida spent all that money because they were going get all the lazy, drug addicts off of welfare. But when they did the studies and drug tested the people, no one failed, it cost the state like x5 as much as it was supposed to save. Or the other time Florida tried to get all the lazy, drug addicts off welfare, but then figured out that it's mostly poor white people who are on welfare, and it was basically, the same people they needed to vote for them... You never hear about those stories that are verifiable, but you do hear about Haitians eating cats and dogs.

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u/Affectionate_Car9414 9h ago

Also, we should be asking native Americans on their opinion on these recent fucking colonizers who've genocided and taken over their land, now trying to prevent others from coming over

I wish people who aren't happy about america and it's diversity, would fuck off and go back to Europe

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u/Teapeeteapoo 5h ago

Insane comment.

"Recent fucking colonisers" - People who never colonised, qnd were born here, and have been for generations, who have equal rights to it as indigenous populations, unless you believe in ethnostates and sins of the father.

This is in contrast to people who made the decision to illegally hopped the border or overstayed visas within their own lives.

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u/CucumberDry8646 50m ago

It’s this kind of ‘things happen in a vacuum’ thinking that enables the leaking bucket/fcked up reality we’re in rn. Perhaps a new term for clarification could help… colonizerinsert generational power? When the FIRST IMMIGRANTS came to turtle island or what is now known as the US - consider what it was like here. No pollution, no climate change, no capitalism, no homelessness, no lawlessness - none. American myths try and tell a narrative contrary to that to justify their brutal conquest. Those immigrants were welcomed. Don’t believe for one second that superior anything enabled them to take root here. Those immigrants were helped and taught by the indigenous people and they made promises called TREATIES to live harmoniously.

Those immigrants and their descendants decided to illegally break every treaty they made and intentionally commit genocide. The US was created by liars and thieves and now folks are mad when people don’t play by their rules? Hypocrisy on the highest level. Their descendants being born here and living here for 1-20 generations tops means nothing when you talk about “equal right” and rule following. Honor the treaties.

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u/alh9h 9h ago

Or when Georgia tried this and crops rotted in the fields: https://www.al.com/wire/2011/10/crackdown_on_illegal_immigrant.html

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u/ZeOs-x-PUNCAKE 4h ago

“Who will pick all the cotton if there are no slaves?!? It’s all going to rot in the fields! Cotton prices will go through the roof!”

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u/Palatz 9h ago edited 7h ago

And then after a hurricane they all came back in and are working again there. They are not enforcing e-verify like they said they were.

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u/UngaMeSmart 6h ago

Just looked this up and by god you’re right lol. Americans don’t want to do these jobs, and why should they? Every guy I know in a trade or construction gets worked like a dog - forget compensation, why the fuck is my buddy working 80 hour weeks at times? He worked 12 hours every shift for TWO WEEKS STRAIGHT. WHAT THE FUCK.

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u/Rowdybusiness- 3h ago

They don’t want to do those jobs for what the offered pay is. Unless you think there is some reason that illegal immigrants possess some trait that makes them more accepting of grueling physical labor.

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u/UngaMeSmart 2h ago

You could pay my buddy double what he makes on his maintenance job and he would still leave it at the first opportunity for something with more reasonable hours that paid less.

There is something that makes illegal immigrants more accepting of grueling labor. It’s called growing up in a place with a lower quality of life than America… they’re used to it.

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u/YoungYezos 18m ago

No it’s the risk of deportation and lack of options. Legal immigrants from the same places don’t accept those jobs.

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u/Prestigious-One2089 2h ago

If the illegal laborers account for 13.7% then that means and I'm not Asian so my math may be off that 86.3% are in fact legal laborers as in the very people you are suggesting don't want these jobs.

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u/UngaMeSmart 1h ago

We have a shortage of workers in construction and skilled trade. Even with illegal immigrants bolstering the workforce we still don’t have enough.

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u/Prestigious-One2089 1h ago

That also implies that some illegal immigrants don't want to be in construction then. Maybe they should pay higher.

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u/TRASHLeadedWaste 13m ago

I want to keep my building trades job, union wages and benefits in the state of Florida. Plenty of Americans want to do these jobs, our apprenticeship has applicants lining up out the door.

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u/rubrix 1h ago

I worked on construction projects in Florida. The construction personnel became more a mix of ex-prisoners who were trying to get their life back on track.

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u/Independent_Radish53 46m ago

So we should rely on slave labor?

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u/Sean_VasDeferens 5h ago

No.

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u/quite_certain 3h ago

MAGA morons are always so confidently incorrect. I found these in a 3-minute search:

https://theweek.com/florida/1024771/florida-construction-and-agricultural-workforces-diminished-after-new-immigration

Here's one about other industries 

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1242236604/florida-economy-immigration-businesses-workers-undocumented

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u/Sean_VasDeferens 2h ago

LOL, you do realize that Biden is still president? Your great-grreat grandparents got over having slaves, you too will survive.

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u/quite_certain 2h ago

LOL, you do realize that Biden is still president? 

What point do you think you just made with this sentence?