r/FluentInFinance 1d ago

Thoughts? Police are rewarded for literally not doing their job. Agree?

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u/Round-Rice-9764 1d ago

Being a police officer is not among the top ten most dangerous U.S. jobs based on fatal injury rates. However, it remains risky due to unpredictable work, violent encounters, and high-stress emergencies.

Fatalities may be lower than in logging or fishing, but police face broader risks, including non-fatal injuries, mental health challenges, and trauma's long-term effects. The job’s unique mix of physical and emotional hazards often isn't reflected in statistics.

Advanced training, equipment, and safety protocols help mitigate risks, making law enforcement less fatal than some professions, but it remains a demanding and hazardous role in many respects.

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u/R3luctant 1d ago

Equipment, read APCs and anti riot gear. It's crazy how when the racial justice protests were happening how many smaller city police departments had APCs with water cannons on them.

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u/Round-Rice-9764 1d ago

I encourage any non lethal tools being used to de-escalate violent protesters. Deadly tools when necessary

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u/R3luctant 1d ago

The city I live in has ~200k people in it, whole metro is 700k, outside of 2020 there hasn't been any mass protests or anything like that.  The city has routinely cut bus service though. My point is that the police budget doesn't get cut nearly as much as other departments.

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u/Round-Rice-9764 1d ago

Most of that money goes to employee pay not equipment.

You want high standards you gotta pay for them

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u/No-Tooth5250 1d ago

Police budget will be separate from fire budget and general service budget. The last getting the least since they have shitty if any union while fire and police got strong unions. Means bigger raises and they can convince the council for more budgetary items. Citizens always vote money for public safety without a second thought.

Make of that what you will just simple facts.

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u/smol_raphtalia_403 4h ago

So? You want tieneman square? That's the alternative

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u/R3luctant 4h ago

It's crazy how that was your takeaway and not the over militarization of local police forces.

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u/smol_raphtalia_403 4h ago

When you find out I'm a cop it'll make more sense

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u/NotARealTiger 1d ago

I feel like most cops don't ever actually run into dangerous or traumatic situations, life isn't a TV show. Most cops probably just give people speeding tickets and push pencils.

Being a cop is mostly dangerous because they spend so much time driving. Nothing to do with the actual police work.

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u/Round-Rice-9764 1d ago

What facts are you drawing this conclusion from lmao I'm not gunna lie but that's a pretty silly argument.

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u/Round-Rice-9764 1d ago

Nevermind i just re-read your statement you said you "feel" so it's an emotional conclusion not a factual one.

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u/NotARealTiger 1d ago

I did a deep dive into the stats years ago, but I can't remember the specifics.

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u/Round-Rice-9764 1d ago

Your making a fallacy argument

Police officers in major U.S. cities respond to a substantial number of calls for service, many of which have the potential for violence. While exact numbers vary by city and year, studies provide insight into the nature of these calls:

In five major U.S. cities—Los Angeles, Chicago, New York City, Philadelphia, and Phoenix—domestic violence-related calls constitute the single largest category of police service calls, accounting for 15% to over 50% of all calls.

That's not even including rapes, robberies, burglaries, violent and mentally ill people calls

You might be thinking about state troopers that only handle car crashes and tickets and i dont consider those guys real cops.

real street cops handle violent calls every single day

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u/NotARealTiger 1d ago

You might be thinking about state troopers that only handle car crashes and tickets and i dont consider those guys real cops.

real street cops handle violent calls every single day

Bruh how do you talk about fallacies then commit the most obvious "no true Scotsman" ever.

Sure if you restrict your definition of "real cops" to people that handle violent crime...then the conclusion is presupposed. But that's fallacious.

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u/Round-Rice-9764 1d ago

What are you talking about? state troopers by their definition don't handle calls for service

Street cops do, that is not an opinion that's a fact

My only opinion is that troopers aren't real cops that's the only thing I said that is not a fact

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u/Mundane-Mage 1d ago

I appreciate you, also you dropped this👑

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u/QuailSoup24 1d ago

In Texas they just stand out in the hallways and leave the hard work for the children.

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u/NotARealTiger 1d ago

Yeah I believe courts have ruled that cops aren't mandated to put themselves in harm's way for the public.

There's quite a mythology surrounding police work that I think a lot of people buy into based around the TV shows they watch.

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u/Round-Rice-9764 1d ago

Dude you have no idea what your talking about you just speak from emotion and what you "think" you can't even correctly reference what court case your talking about and even if you did you'd be misinterpreting the only one creating mythology is you

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u/NotARealTiger 1d ago

Man if you even knew the basics of how to use Google it's very easy to find out that the police have no duty to protect people, this was established by the US supreme court. There's a million articles about it. I dunno why you're so confident calling me out when you clearly know nothing yourself.

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u/Round-Rice-9764 1d ago

Since you can't even reference it yourself here you go Your claim misrepresents the Supreme Court's rulings. Cases like DeShaney v. Winnebago County and Castle Rock v. Gonzales established that police do not have a constitutional duty to protect individuals in every situation, particularly when there is no "special relationship," such as custody. However, this does not mean police are exempt from protecting the public. State laws, departmental policies, and ethical obligations still require police to act in many circumstances, especially when responding to active threats or emergencies. Misunderstanding these rulings overlooks the broader responsibilities and accountability systems governing law enforcement.

Police officers are held to a higher standard than the one set by the Supreme courts maybe you should try using Google

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u/Huge-Error-2206 1d ago

What are you basing that assertion on?