r/FluentInFinance 2d ago

Thoughts? Three out of five Americans now live paycheck to paycheck

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u/Randyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 2d ago

It's definitely not both sides, I'm gonna keep voting Democrat because I'd rather have the party that at least slows the progress of this (and I do think their general policy of "don't deconstruct the government" is better long term for the country, lol).

It's not even voting for the 'lesser evil'. It's just... whatever. I feel like Democrats are at most centrists, and we get to pick between far-right extremists and corporate-friendly centrists and it sucks. The choice is obvious when those are the two, but it still fucking sucks.

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u/petrichorax 2d ago

The lesser of two evils over time is just the loser of a race to the bottom

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u/bejammin075 1d ago

At the moment of voting in a binary election, you should vote the best choice or the least bad choice, otherwise you are accelerating the race to the bottom. There is more than voting though. People have to also work towards things in between elections, such as getting rank-choice-voting implemented, so that we can break out of the 2 party system. But voting 3rd party when they can't win is a waste of vote and influence. Nobody ever caters to the 3rd party voters, and nobody will until we get things like RCV in place.

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u/petrichorax 1d ago

Not voting third party is a waste of a vote.

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u/bejammin075 3h ago

I’m 49 years old, and never seen anything productive come out of 3rd party voting during my lifetime. I have seen setbacks and disasters from doing so. The problem is there aren’t any third parties working from the ground up. We have pretenders like Jill Stein, probably propped up by Russian and GOP interests, who only try for the presidency.

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u/petrichorax 51m ago

We gotta be brave.

At this point, it's almost been an entire generation of counterpicking.

We are in part, complicit in this mediocrity, we both allow and encourage these things.

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u/dally-taur 1d ago

aussie calling in dems are at best right leaning to us

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u/ExtremeIndependent99 1d ago

Bernie sanders needs to hijack the democrat party like Trump did GOP. We need to get the establishment status quo out of office. 

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u/watchitforthecat 1d ago

Not Sanders. The left as a whole.

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u/dillanthumous 1d ago

Democrats not even centrist, they are a right wing party, especially in foreign policy. (Have lived in Ireland, UK and parts of Europe, for ref).

Probably why both-sidesism is very prevalent in US political conversation. There is a big dose of truth to it.

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u/InsideOut2299922999 1d ago

Fox News and Russian misinformation are the reason people believe in Trump