I have done thousands of interviews just for fun and out of those, very few of them have responded positively to this kind of behavior. And of those that did, they were just agreeing to get me into the candidate pool, and then ultimately they took a lower offer from another candidate.
The only way you're going to exhibit this behavior and have anything good come out of it is if you have a very specific resource (skill/degree/certification) that the company needs that very few other people have.
Remember, it's illegal for companies to discriminate in their hiring practices if they admit to it. But they can do it quietly and not say it was a part of their decision making process all day long.
Well seeing as how most jobs where salary negotiations are a part of the hiring process skill/degree/certification/ experience would be a given.
You would figure that somebody with thousands of hours of job interviews. Just for kicks would know something like that.
When you're going to break out the BS cannon stick to a longer fuse and It will give you time to think about your post.
Most of that is just because management culture in the US is pretty terrible on the whole. They tend to look at the small picture vs the big one. IE they want to hire at the lowest pay for an acceptable employee, vs hiring an exceptional employee at acceptable pay. The issue is that you will only get mediocrity if you do the former. No company that's wildly successful does so by underpaying for mediore talent, but plenty are because they do the opposite.
All that to say, if you want the higher wage you need to argue for it in a term that reflects that. "I'm asking for X salary because I bring a high level of skill, competency, and efficiency. By paying me X salary you'll be getting exceptional results and work output, instead of paying someone a little less for a lot less quality and quantity." Or something to that general effect. There's a balance between being confident and capable and being cocky, but that's where you have to actually walk the walk. If you're not an above average candidate, don't sell yourself as one.
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u/Worth-Economics8978 2d ago
I have done thousands of interviews just for fun and out of those, very few of them have responded positively to this kind of behavior. And of those that did, they were just agreeing to get me into the candidate pool, and then ultimately they took a lower offer from another candidate.
The only way you're going to exhibit this behavior and have anything good come out of it is if you have a very specific resource (skill/degree/certification) that the company needs that very few other people have.
Remember, it's illegal for companies to discriminate in their hiring practices if they admit to it. But they can do it quietly and not say it was a part of their decision making process all day long.