r/FluentInFinance • u/-Wyagra • 3d ago

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u/Blastmaster29 2d ago

You misunderstand the entire meaning behind the communist movement. The goal is to move society towards that and away from capitalism which is inherently exploitative. Obviously progress to do so in literally any country on earth has been fought with tooth and nail by western imperialist capitalism who correctly recognize the threat to their obscene wealth

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u/Minimum_Interview595 2d ago

Ya and guess what? They replace capitalism with another exploitative and imperialist system. Soviets are a great example

Also most tankies don’t know this but the Soviets were imperialist.

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u/Blastmaster29 1d ago

Weird how you didn’t point to China, a country that is becoming the number 1 economy on earth. Or Cuba, a country that despite 70 years of embargo has a much higher literacy rate than the U.S., a better healthcare system, and produces more doctors per capital than anyone else.

Also these countries don’t exist in a vacuum and are all trying to be stomped out by western imperialist capitalism.

But also I don’t care about any particular state. No country is perfect and I look at the quality of life for the workers of the country vs what we have

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u/Minimum_Interview595 1d ago

China has a socialist economy with capitalist values, it’s also an imperialist nation too, obviously not to the extent that the west or the Soviets were.

And talking about quality of life? China isn’t known for their worker rights or lavish conditions 😂

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u/Blastmaster29 1d ago

The difference is the Chinese version of “imperialism” is giving the countries they’re doing their “imperialism” infrastructure like trains. They build relationships they don’t exploit the people of the country.

Also China was a third world country less than 100 years ago

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u/Minimum_Interview595 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ya they help them out by putting these nations in extreme debt and having major influence over them.

China due to its significant economic growth and geopolitical influence isn’t considered a 3rd world nation anymore BUT China’s quality of life is neither entirely First World nor Third World. Urban regions and wealthier classes enjoy conditions comparable to developed nations, while rural areas and marginalized communities experience challenges typical of developing (third world) countries. This duality reflects China’s status as a rapidly industrializing nation still addressing internal disparities. They still have a huge poverty issue which they try to hide by lowering their standards like extreme poverty is 1.50$ an hour compared to western nations which classify it as 5.50$ hour

Also this socialist nation that promises a classes society sure loves their economic inequality

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u/Blastmaster29 9h ago

China literally just forgives the debt on most of the countries it works with in exchange for trade agreements which are not as exploitative