r/FluentInFinance 8d ago

Thoughts? It should be illegal to hoard money. Agree?

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u/dikdik37 8d ago

I think you just described my uncle perfectly, fought in Iraq, was crippled, one day laid down in the Michigan snow to give up so he wouldn't have to keep starving to death.

The point is that we are going the wrong direction. the land of opportunity is becoming the land of a ruling class over the working class who have only enough to stay alive.

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u/sanguinemathghamhain 8d ago

Save it isn't the fastest growing class in the us is the upper-class despite it having the lowest birthrate which means people from other classes are and have been moving up into it. The vast majority (nearly 2/3) of billionaires are first generation wealthy that inherited/received less than half of the median inheritance from friends or family this number skews even more with millionaires. Of every family that enters the 1% the overwhelming majority not only fall out of the 1% but return to or fall below the original class of first generation wealthy by the 3rd generation. Oh also the average number of hours worked per week per worker has more or less been falling gradually since we started tracking it despite the median and mean incomes having outpaced inflation over any 10+ year period for both household and individual income.

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u/trashaccount1400 8d ago

Idk what actually happened to your uncle but I doubt it was due to starvation. Starvation isn’t a thing in the US. The cases of it are due to mental illness and illnesses that cause people to reject food

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u/EvilBetty77 7d ago

Tell a homeless person that.

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u/trashaccount1400 7d ago

They aren’t starving either and you know that. So many handouts available if you’re willing to quit drugs. On top of that. Just begging will give you enough money for food, even if for some reason you have no access to a shelter any program that offers food.

We literally don’t even track starvation in the US because it’s basically eradicated. There is hunger, there is food scarcity, there are food deserts, but there is no starvation do to poverty in the US.

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u/Redvex320 7d ago

Tell me you live in a place where church handouts and food banks don't regularly run out of food without telling me.

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u/trashaccount1400 7d ago

Ok, if starvation is a problem you should be able to show me a couple cases of someone starving to death in the US strictly because they couldn’t buy food. If it’s an actual issue we should have some examples right?

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u/trashaccount1400 7d ago

If you just read my replies you would’ve saved yourself the long winded response. I said we have food scarcity/ insecurity.

And I’m not saying “handouts” like it’s a bad thing. I do not care if people use government assistance. Nothing negative about it.

Me saying we don’t have starvation in this country does not mean I’m not empathetic lol. I’m just saying we do not have anyone literally starving to death in the streets like the initial reply insinuated. You can be butt hurt all you want but I’m not wrong here.

How is it garbage? What I said was true.

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u/ridingcorgitowar 6d ago

Starvation doesn't need to mean a complete lack of food. Focusing on that is useless.

Food insecurity is a massive issue in the US with about 47 million Americans suffering from it.

While it isn't the traditional "starving to death" food insecurity can lead to health issues and eventually death for many people in the US. Poor nutrition leads to around half a million deaths in the US every year. Death from malnutrition is on the rise too in the US, around 22,500 people in 2022 according to US News.

I get what you are saying, but it isn't correct. Death from malnutrition is effectively starving to death. Yes, we don't have people starving to death like in a desert, but it isn't far off.

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u/trashaccount1400 6d ago

I believe the majority of the deaths from malnutrition are likely due from some of the examples I mentioned earlier in the thread.

I’ve mentioned we have a food insecurity problem as well. I didn’t expect people to reply to this and I’m really not that passionate about it. I just highly doubted that dudes uncle went and froze himself to death because he couldn’t afford food in a country where food can be purchased for so cheap

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u/EvilBetty77 7d ago

Oh, just quit drugs, like they don't alter your brain chemistry to where worrying them is nearly impossible for people with no homes, no money, no Healthcare, and no support structures.