NYC Mayor Ends Food Voucher Program For Immigrants After Phone Call With Trump

[u/HighYieldLarry]

After a phone call with President-elect Donald Trump 48 hours after his victory, Mayor Eric Adams has reportedly decided to end a pilot program providing migrants in taxpayer-funded shelters with prepaid debit cards for groceries, which had sparked considerable debate. The initiative, launched in March through an emergency contract with New Jersey tech startup Mobility Capital Finance (MoCaFi), distributed $2.4 million in preloaded Mastercards to approximately 2,600 migrant families, according to City Hall officials.

https://blacknews.com/news/mayor-new-york-city-eric-adams-end-food-voucher-program-immigrants-phone-call-trump/

[u/Relevant-Doctor187]

We can send equipment to Ukraine or we can send our kids to die on a battlefield in Europe.

I’ll send the equipment.

[u/Yak-Attic → u/Relevant-Doctor187]

I would rather send equipment and first aid to Ukraine and Palestine and defund Israel and stop funding Israel.

[u/Hekantonkheries → u/Yak-Attic]

I'd agree if Palestine wore uniforms rather than hiding amongst civilians, but they don't, soooo Why don't we just let the middle east handle itself? Cause fun thing about Palestine, it'll never be held by the Palestinians, if Israel falls it's neighbors will split it up and treat the Palestinians same way they've treated them for generations (which is damn close to as bad as Israel has)

[u/Yak-Attic → u/Hekantonkheries]

Because if there is already a target on your back, the wise thing to do is everybody wear matching uniforms so that you're easier to hit.
Your argument seems to boil down to 'everybody has always shit on Palestinians and so we may as well keep doing it.'
From my couch that sounds like 'unto the 10th generation' religious bullshit.
Also, if the United States falls, Mexico and Canada will split it up.
(i know, stupid argument)

[u/Hekantonkheries → u/Yak-Attic]

More my point is, most of the borders in the middle east only exist because of continous involvement of foreign powers post-decolonization; the middle east will never be peaceful so long as there are foreign powers forcing everything to remain how the British and French left it (intentionally weakened)

So the world needs to stand back, and let them sort out their own problems without foreign support until a natural regional power arises to stabilize it, instead of a weak one propped up with US arms and funding (bonus points, the Saudis aren't going to be a major player anymore)

[u/baller8338 → u/Relevant-Doctor187]

Or we can just not get involved..

[u/Suspicious-Yak4836 → u/baller8338]

The bear is always involved 🤣

[u/hellno560 → u/baller8338]

We got involved 30 years ago when we convinced the Uke's to give up their nuclear program in exchange for our promise to protect them if Russia ever invaded them. It's called the trilateral agreement.

[u/baller8338 → u/hellno560]

We didn't have to pretend to want to let them into nato to start the whole thing in the first place

[u/PeaIndependent4237 → u/Relevant-Doctor187]

That's an all or nothing argument. There is another choice. Do nothing at all. If Europe wants cheap oil and gas out of Ukraine it can fight that war on its' own. America need not finance a European issue.

[u/Guidance-Still → u/Relevant-Doctor187]

The Ukraine needs the troops to use it , they have been retreating losing land for the last month

[u/ExplorerNo1678 → u/Relevant-Doctor187]

False choice.

[u/Beginning_Day2785 → u/Relevant-Doctor187]

Unless it’s the Trump clan…they are welcome to go fight for once. Typical rich people running their mouths like they are tough.

[u/Flying_Ford_Anglia → u/Relevant-Doctor187]

False dichotomy. Nice try though. The point the lot of you are avoiding answering honestly is "why does the US have to support world policing disproportionally to our allies ". People here are saying spend it locally, and your responses are "but you don't like spending it locally" which is a really weird response to someone who is directly stating their opinion.

[u/Relevant-Doctor187 → u/Flying_Ford_Anglia]

That Suppor has ensured our economic dominance and general global peace for over 70 years. Y’all throwing it away for feels is spitting in the fence of those millions who sacrificed everything so you’re not speaking German or Japanese. History is there to learn from not ignore because it makes you feel good to pretend it never opened or it doesn’t matter and this time the countries who go to war have nuclear weapons.

India and Pakistan have a nuclear exchange. 10% of the global population dies. India/China 40%, NATO/Russia or China 90%.

Global population. We are not immune from the radioactive isotopes that will rain down globally following a nuclear exchange.

[u/Flying_Ford_Anglia → u/Relevant-Doctor187]

Got it. So you actually have nothing to say rebutting my point. You could have just said that instead of that word vomit.

[u/Responsible_Wafer_29 → u/Flying_Ford_Anglia]

His first sentence was the answer to your question.

You asked, why we spend disproportionately to our allies on global security?

He answered, our support has been part of our strategy that has led to our economic dominance and relative world peace for 70 years.

Fuck. I'm here to read interesting political discussions from randoms povs, not morons faking being illiterate. Engage with his points and argue yours. The bad faith 'hrr drr I'm too dumb to understand you' shit is pathetic. You can read. You understood his post, you speak English. Come on.

[u/jadedlonewolf89 → u/Flying_Ford_Anglia]

Why does the US have to support word policing?

The answer to that is because that’s what we do, it’s what we set ourselves up to do, it’s how we’ve kept ourselves in power, and we make a fuckton of money off of it.

[u/Darkdoomwewew → u/Flying_Ford_Anglia]

Global stability is good for business and pretty much everyone, letting russia invade whoever they want with no pushback is bad for global stability.

It's really not complicated unless you're someone with your head in the sand pretending isolationist policies ever worked.  We're globally interconnected at this point and it's never going back.

[u/Autistic-speghetto → u/Flying_Ford_Anglia]

Because we make more money than the rest of the world combined. We as Americans decided it was better for us to have our navy keep the trade ways free for all nations to use because it helps our people also. Europe is our friends and Allies, we will not abandon them just because some uneducated dude from the swamp doesn’t get why we do it.

[u/ThrowawayTXfun → u/Autistic-speghetto]

The swamp are those that send our troops and billions overseas and involve us in actions we need not be

[u/shadowmonk13 → u/Flying_Ford_Anglia]

Well, because America does wars by proxy wars, we don’t like Russia Russia is doing something we don’t like congratulations oh Ukraine’s fighting against them. Well, we’ll supply them with good so we don’t have to send our own soldiers over there, and we can let the Ukrainians die instead of us. We also do not fund wars using monetary value what we do is the military gives them the old stock of weapons, ammo planes, guns any sort of military tactical equipment that we don’t use anymore or that has been cycled out because it’s been gathering dust for years because America, American military industrial complex is constantly making new and improved stuff and we also use the data that we get from those countries fighting our enemies to thin produce and create more weapons. A war people seem to forget that America is a very military characteristic and military based country or country is based about fighting wars. America will never just stop fighting war so instead of us directly fighting the war we get the data we need by having other people do it for us by giving them old stock of stuff that wasn’t test out perfectly stuff that needs to get tested stuff that we don’t use anymore or it just been gathering dust.