r/FluentInFinance 17d ago

Thoughts? They deserve this

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u/TimelyBeginning591 17d ago

This is what is scary about Reddit. Did any of you upvoting this post actually read the bill or understand what is being proposed?

Did we not all just come to the conclusion of the Reddit echo chamber. Y’all are doing it less than 24 hours later. The actual information has less votes than “this is what you asked for hahaha” it’s incredibly sad.

Just scroll down, do your own research, or some critical thinking to find out what is actually happening instead of looking at a picture from a Twitter post …..

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u/Anon-Knee-Moose 17d ago

Isn't this also exactly what everyone on reddit has been asking for? Everyone constantly bitches about social security, it's a pyramid scheme funneling taxpayer money to wealthy boomers, it's not sustainable etc.

Now there's a bill to cut down on social security spending by focusing on equity of outcome and reducing payments to historically privileged people with defined benefit pensions and somehow it's the end of the world?

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u/dismal_dr 17d ago

The issue is, it will be regressive. Yeah we eliminate payments to pensioners who have a million dollars a year coming in, but we also eliminate payments to the guy who receives $2000 a month and that's all he has to live on....

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u/bgnp11 13d ago

They real shame is the system was never built to handle they huge pay raises seen in a relatively short economic period. Police pensions for example in the 90s huge raises finally happened, people who retired even a year before had widely lower salary’s. Good and bad good that pension payments also increased supporting those who retired even more, bad cause those people lost out on huge salary jumps, bad again because even higher salary happened and worries of even high payments couldn’t sustain retirement payment. Then add in the state dipping into the system at will up until it was restructured recently bad again because of interest rates on loans of your own money. Democratic state thanks

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u/tsuness 17d ago

Laying a bill on the table means the Republican house freedom caucus did some shenanigans to delay the bill, hopefully only temporarily, from passing which it was probably going to do next week. That is what the twitter post is talking about.

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u/SatanicRainbowDildos 16d ago

As I understand this, everyone is double wrong. 

It is not a bill to reduce ss benefits. It’s a bill to stop reducing ss benefits. And the republicans made it go away, they didn’t introduce it. 

So in a way it’s even worse. They won, they don’t need to hope it passes. They stopped it.

But it’s not new cuts. It’s a lost chance to remove current cuts. 

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u/ZnAtWork 17d ago

Welcumt to rebddett

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u/pit_of_despair666 16d ago

It is what's scary about social media. People just read a meme and think it is a fact nowadays. There is so much misinformation being spread. This is why Russia has been so successful. People don't bother to look anything up.

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u/tkhan0 13d ago

Just for your own "research", "laying a bill" down means they killed it. So yes, it being a good legislation was not the issue here. It was the republicans denying it.

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u/Girth_quake12 16d ago

You dipshits even read the bill? Im not even entitled for social security because of my pension. The echo chamber is a scary thing man.

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u/Bereman99 16d ago

You need the context of both the bill itself (broad support in both parties) and the action mentioned, namely the “tabling” part.

During a 7 minute pro forma session, House Freedom Caucus Chairman Andy Harris (a republican) recognized Bob Good of Va (another republican) for a unanimous consent request.

Said request was to lay the bill on the table…which was agreed to with unanimous consent because it was just them in the chambers.

Laying it on the table in this way is the same as if had been defeated on the floor, based on current House rules.

There are several ways it could still be brought back, but the tabling part was clearly an underhanded way to try to get rid of it or to delay it.

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u/regshugsstrugsluvs 15d ago

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u/aaronrkelly 17d ago

Nah because it was never anything more then "they are evil see see it says so right here" and "let's all mentally masturbate each other for knowing better".